Steam Booster Pack Math: Odds and Percentages Explained

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  • Опубліковано 24 гру 2024

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  • @IshanDeston
    @IshanDeston 9 років тому +86

    Maybe there is some higher math function i am not aware off, but it quite bothers me that he is using a square root symbol as means to write a division symbol.

    • @IshanDeston
      @IshanDeston 9 років тому +1

      I suppose whatever works for you :) It just kinda goes against my math sensibilities :)
      But thank you for the video, nonetheless :)

    • @jorisjanssen4721
      @jorisjanssen4721 9 років тому

      +Kajan451 So basicly you can only get one at random when you already have one and a person crafts one? please awnser

    • @IshanDeston
      @IshanDeston 9 років тому

      Joris Janssen Don't know why you ask me. But yes, you need to have the badge in question in order to be eligible to receive free trading cards and stuff, whenever someone else crafts a badge. There is no guarantee you'll get anything.

    • @jorisjanssen4721
      @jorisjanssen4721 9 років тому

      So you increase the chance everytime you get more badges? (sorry if I don't understand Im not english)

    • @IshanDeston
      @IshanDeston 9 років тому

      Joris Janssen Each game with a badge potentially lets you get free cards. Getting badges will also increase your steam level, which means you have a higher chance of getting those free cards.
      Honestly, its not worth the effort. You won't be getting a lot of free cards, unless you are extremely lucky, and you are probably better off just playing the regular lottery if you hope to make money from this.

  • @DarkAvatar1313
    @DarkAvatar1313 8 років тому +47

    √ is not a division symbol...

    • @isieg575
      @isieg575 6 років тому +2

      once it was

  • @Cotty1820
    @Cotty1820 9 років тому +6

    It was also explained by Valve that there is a "Bad Luck" filter added into the drop chances (it wasn't said when this was added, however).
    For example, to qualify for a drop you must log in to Steam at least once per week. Any week in which you do not log in, removes your eligibility from the following week. But say you log in every week (and it's been shown that the more games eligible the better your chances), for each week in which you do not recieve a card drop, your drop rates (for all eligible games) will increase the next consecutive week (by an undisclosed percentage) until you do recieve a drop or fail to log on for one week. This is also the reason many people recieve drops after obtaining levels 10, 20 etc, as the extra 20% is then added to their climbing drop percentage, which after many months can cause a significant jump.

  • @19792403
    @19792403 10 років тому +1

    I would also like to add that if more people craft badges for that particular game, your chances of getting a booster pack also increases.

  • @Tenyson05_
    @Tenyson05_ 9 років тому +9

    Thanks for the info. Been on steam for 2years and been wondering how I am not getting any booster pack

    • @TheGeniusPieTrap
      @TheGeniusPieTrap  9 років тому +5

      Otaku Lewis Yea it's kind of depressing when you figure out your chances.

    • @Ermy1996
      @Ermy1996 9 років тому +2

      is a really rare thing for me. I got one in 3 years

    • @ratlinggull2223
      @ratlinggull2223 6 років тому

      Buy something like 1-dollar bundles on Fanatical (used to be Bundle Stars) that usually contain 20-30 games.

    • @ratlinggull2223
      @ratlinggull2223 6 років тому +1

      Remember more games = more packs

  • @MrR0flLol
    @MrR0flLol 10 років тому +9

    I've never had a booster pack. Since May 2012 no sign of any. Been having to buy my cards for higher levels and more chance :(

    • @MrR0flLol
      @MrR0flLol 10 років тому

      ***** I am a level 11 with 11 games eligible.

    • @MrR0flLol
      @MrR0flLol 10 років тому

      ***** I'm surprised I haven't. I'm on steam every day and I play games on them all the time. Do i need to be playing the game to earn a pack for it?

    • @MrR0flLol
      @MrR0flLol 10 років тому

      ***** that is very annoying. My mate has been on steam one month more than me, same level, but has had 4 booster packs. and he has less games than I do.

    • @MrR0flLol
      @MrR0flLol 10 років тому

      it's very annoying haha

    • @nivqnivq
      @nivqnivq 10 років тому +2

      339 games eligible for booster packs, level 71 i've only recieved 1 booster pack total :ii

  • @CasaRol
    @CasaRol 8 років тому +1

    Anywhere I can see the percentage of the default boosterpack drop for the specific game?

  • @rubenpol7001
    @rubenpol7001 9 років тому +2

    The math is wrong. It only looks ok because a relatively high number of eligible players is used.
    His formula: / (so i switched the 2 values so a divide looks better)
    Example on his logic: 2 players are eligible => 1 / 2 = 50% chance. So far so good.
    He is level 102 vs a level 5 => 3 / 2 = 150% chance!?!?
    The description used to be, you have a base chance of 5 entries. Every 10 steam levels you get 1 extra entry. This means with 2 low level players, you have 5 out of 10 chance to get the booster pack (is 50%).
    Now, if a player is level 100, you get 10 extra entries (is 15 total) => 15 / 20 = 75% chance (vs low level player).
    I am not sure IF they still use this method, but whatever they use, the formula shown in this video is incorrect.
    Though, this still means you have a very low chance of getting a booster pack when alot of people are eligible. High level players mainly get a booster pack on a regular basis because they are eligible for so many games and thus increase their odds (if you have a 1000 eligible games, you got a 1000 times a chance on a booster pack).

  • @Starteller
    @Starteller 10 років тому +1

    Can we have a list of games with low to free prices that we can get cards?

  • @clutchpowers3087
    @clutchpowers3087 10 років тому +1

    That just solved alot of problems. but I cant get a booster pack for a game i do not own right?

  • @ChrisBane
    @ChrisBane 8 років тому +1

    thanks for explain that. how do you think steam could improve the system? I think they should have an opt-in for the card system. loads of card and packs are probably wasted on people who don't care about them. hell i had a shit ton of stuff in there and i'm only now researching it.

  • @bigmanol15
    @bigmanol15 10 років тому

    This is an eye opener at how slim the odds are. Amazing work. I'm level 12 and eligible for a lot of booster packs but I've only gotten two of them since the trading cards where introduced but never realised how slim the odds where, I just thought I was unlucky.

    • @zombifiedoll1388
      @zombifiedoll1388 2 роки тому

      I'm level 40 and have been on steam longer than cards have existed and have only gotten one pack lol

  • @jacksonhatchett914
    @jacksonhatchett914 7 років тому +6

    if im not wrong but isnt 500 divided by 1 equal 500

  • @Planarwalk
    @Planarwalk 9 років тому

    So do the odds also go down if the other people are high levels, or can more than 1 person get a booster pack for a badge crafted

  • @3101kevkev
    @3101kevkev 10 років тому +1

    This video is extremely informative.
    I have a question though. Does the badge crafted effect which booster pack is given? For example, someone crafts a TF2 badge, is a TF2 Booster Pack given out??

  • @giorgoskazamias7191
    @giorgoskazamias7191 10 років тому

    Hello, you that if 500 are eligible for a booster pack, then the odds of you getting one (if you're bellow level 10) are 0.2, well I kinda believe this is wrong because, it is almost impossible for each and everyone of those 500 to be below 10.I mean that if 499 people are below 10, then the chance of one of them getting a booster pack is 499 x 0.2 = 99.8% and if the other one is above level 10, then the chance of them getting it would be 0.22
    and adding those chances up gives a 100.02%.Which in my opinion would mean that either each person has a certain probability of getting a booster when a badge is crafted, meaning that it is possible for everyone who's eligible for a booster pack to get one(I think it doesn't work that way but had to mention it anyway)
    or it would mean that the denominator of that fraction shouldn't be "eligible users" but the sum of everyones "level percentage"
    For example:
    there are 10 people eligible for a booster pack and they have the following levels:
    12,2,3,56,23,85,4,5,12,35
    the denominator of the fraction that would give us the chance of a

  • @fifaproz2118
    @fifaproz2118 8 років тому

    So say I was the only one to buy a game,I got the badge,would I get the drop?

  • @greencasd89
    @greencasd89 10 років тому +1

    I'm trying to understand what is a booster pack and what is it used for?

    • @clutchpowers3087
      @clutchpowers3087 10 років тому

      He told you in the begining to watch the first part, when he explains the booster packs...

  • @dimitarbalabanov631
    @dimitarbalabanov631 10 років тому +1

    i dont have any booster pack and i wait for so long time to get one and i level 4 pls explain me pls

  • @randyrandy1727
    @randyrandy1727 6 років тому +1

    0:05-0:12
    *His hand was so still I thought the video froze but the audio was still going*

  • @mellowandjello
    @mellowandjello 9 років тому +1

    Damn, i'm pretty much level 19, only 1 level away from level 20. I know it will only marginally increase my chances, but its better than nothing. Been a long time since I got a booster pack.

  • @HackedHawk
    @HackedHawk 10 років тому

    wouldnt your odds also decrease when there is more higher level accounts that are eligible

  • @FizzyFlaskGaming
    @FizzyFlaskGaming 10 років тому +2

    That was actually very helpful. Thanks for the math breakdown. :)

  • @iamtig5912
    @iamtig5912 7 років тому +2

    so would that mean the less people have played a certain game, the bigger the chances of anyone who has played it to get a booster pack when someone crafts a badge for that game?

    • @Ransynator
      @Ransynator 7 років тому +1

      Yes, but it also means far less booster packs are being created, so you would see them just as rarely.

  • @jorisjanssen4721
    @jorisjanssen4721 9 років тому +1

    So basicly you can only get one at random when you already have one and a person crafts one? please awnser

    • @TheGeniusPieTrap
      @TheGeniusPieTrap  9 років тому

      You don't need to have a booster pack just all the card drops used per game.

    • @jorisjanssen4721
      @jorisjanssen4721 9 років тому

      So if you have more trading cards you have more chance to get a boosterpack?

    • @elsadok1
      @elsadok1 9 років тому

      +Joris Janssen No, your chances are only detrmined by your steam level and the fact that you have no more card drops for the game.

  • @19792403
    @19792403 10 років тому

    Hi, I would like to add that you forgot to mention the "bad luck" factor. According to Steam, if a user did not get a booster pack for weeks or even months, his chances of getting them is higher. in the next few days or weeks. Of course the Steam Level also comes to play here. You might want to take that into consideration as well.

  • @jobsk1
    @jobsk1 10 років тому

    so, i just crafted a badge today after watching this vid and i received this coupons.. do you have any idea of how the pricing works if trading with cards? and what does [H],[W] means i kept seeing in discussions. ty

    • @jobsk1
      @jobsk1 10 років тому

      ***** Oh i see, im new to steam just lvl 6 atm and starting to know much more about how everything works. thx

  • @FlyingNinjaBoar
    @FlyingNinjaBoar 10 років тому +2

    Thanks for the info, and such an fast reply to my question :D i Hit lvl 20 today, was already waiting for loads of Boosterpacks

    • @MartinRGB
      @MartinRGB 10 років тому

      ***** It wasnt. It was more than obvious and could be easily understood if he knew basic maths.

    • @FlyingNinjaBoar
      @FlyingNinjaBoar 10 років тому +1

      Wow man, They say you get a 20% boost for every level, they didn't say anything else. how am i able to know all the rest?

    • @MartinRGB
      @MartinRGB 10 років тому +1

      FlyingNinjaBoar 20% boost of your chances of getting a pack. Common sense, your chances could be increased by 1000% and still not get any pack.

    • @FlyingNinjaBoar
      @FlyingNinjaBoar 10 років тому +1

      Steam wasn't really clear about that. There are other with those Questions too

  • @renowatchesstuff
    @renowatchesstuff 10 років тому

    uhhm im always on my steam all drops i did get and im level 5 but you mean login on the site or the program?

    • @renowatchesstuff
      @renowatchesstuff 10 років тому

      ... the site or the steam program? that was my question xD

    • @renowatchesstuff
      @renowatchesstuff 10 років тому

      im always on the programm so xd

  • @papercotton
    @papercotton 10 років тому

    may i ask where did you learn to use the root symbol in such a way? i mean where as in what field of study? if math, what type of it? thanks :D

    • @papercotton
      @papercotton 10 років тому

      ***** i'm not saying it's a bad habit, i honestly like different things and the day i posted the comment was the first day i came across your channel, surprisingly. i can't help but inquire about the unusual things i notice. you shouldn't put it as "bad", just think of it as nonstandardized (i hope that's what you mean with the three-lettered-word anyway x'D). i know i have some odds as well, like not separating words in syllables when the line i write on is at the end (i write them entirely). thank you very much :D

  • @Saranghae1st
    @Saranghae1st 9 років тому +1

    Wow, I got a booster pack today and I'm currently only level 5. I can't imagine how low my chances were LOL

    • @Makalon102
      @Makalon102 9 років тому +1

      Tia Harribel depends on game, if it was like on tf2 then yes like %0.00000000005 lol

  • @nivqnivq
    @nivqnivq 10 років тому +2

    Ohh btw., you're writing squared by instead of divided by? ;)

  • @glonkfpv
    @glonkfpv 8 років тому +1

    Dat intro doe... LOL
    My Grammarly is yelling at me

  • @ZekromXZ
    @ZekromXZ 10 років тому +1

    cool explanation - so far I have only gotten 2 booster packs in like a couple of months both for the same game and they were worth just a bit over $2 each Idk how good that is but it was cool.

  • @welshman972
    @welshman972 10 років тому +1

    Man that's complex stuff, currently lvl 18, no packs, don't think I'll be seeing any for a while haha!! Thanks for another great explanation though :)

  • @sparenimrod
    @sparenimrod 10 років тому +1

    One per week is insanely often. I need to use up all my drops haha

  • @reklaminis
    @reklaminis 10 років тому

    Level 7, been on steam for 5 years, eligible for 5 game booster packs. Never got any. Guess ,,anti-bad luck'' system ain't exactly working.

  • @MrDaze-
    @MrDaze- 9 років тому +1

    So I haven't gotten a Booster Pack for 10 years because of this... YAYAYAY! (I have 10 years of service on Steam)

  • @Mike-od2bu
    @Mike-od2bu 9 років тому

    lol i watched your video and got booster pack for cs go .D
    and can i get special card from booster pack ?

  • @janda1258
    @janda1258 9 років тому +1

    200/100 is NOT equal to 2+1 wich is equal to 3. What you are saying is that 200/100=3.
    You have to seperate them, so first:
    200/100=2
    2+1=3
    Not 200/100=2+1=3

  • @cakemaster12345
    @cakemaster12345 8 років тому

    Are you from Newfoundland?

  • @brysonzakes6131
    @brysonzakes6131 10 років тому +1

    TO MUCH MATH, MY BRAIN CAN'T HANDEL THIS!

  • @ZeroViking1
    @ZeroViking1 10 років тому +7

    Nice video.

  • @Rettungssocke
    @Rettungssocke 10 років тому +2

    Okay i tried to understand that thing with the lvl,only thing my brain will save is higher lvl=more chance.Thanks! Greets+Sub from Germany!

  • @ShazberryGaming
    @ShazberryGaming 10 років тому

    Great job man really loved it! Thanks for breaking it down. Btw I have gotten 2 booster packs after I got to lvl 15 but it was really spaced out. Also do u wanna friend me on steam and play sometime?

  • @BardEUWTFT
    @BardEUWTFT 9 років тому

    Last year i was lvl 10 and i got 1 booster pack after 2 month's that i got to lvl 10, And today i am lvl 21, And i got a booster pack after 1 week.

    • @TheGeniusPieTrap
      @TheGeniusPieTrap  9 років тому

      THETYLER113 LY Nice! Hopefully the luck continues.

  • @TheIpodfreak999
    @TheIpodfreak999 10 років тому +1

    Love this video thanks for explaining!!

  • @joebeanj9262
    @joebeanj9262 6 років тому +1

    theres no cap?

  • @aidensmith1299
    @aidensmith1299 9 років тому

    So... For There To Be A %100 Percent Chance Of All 500 People... That Means That 50,000 Badges Have To Be Made At Once?? **All 500 People Level One**

  • @noxt5120
    @noxt5120 10 років тому

    thanks :)
    im lv 20 i think and i didnt get any boosterpacks jet :(

  • @olegmarian
    @olegmarian 4 роки тому

    I am level 90 and I got like 74 eligible games and I never received a booster pack xD

  • @Sebaz.
    @Sebaz. 10 років тому

    got to level 20 in the summer adventure just cause I knew about your video :)

  • @animagicwings4240
    @animagicwings4240 3 роки тому

    so other feel sort of scammed by steam here or is it just me ?
    great video now I understand why I never seen anything anymore .

  • @gastenceelgreko8800
    @gastenceelgreko8800 9 років тому +1

    I got a booster pack , and im level 36 i think may have been lucky :)

  • @ColdheartDunther
    @ColdheartDunther 10 років тому

    I'mmmm not so good in maths, but great video, I never had any problems getting booster packs but I'm a really patient guy, level 40 also :D

  • @CraftBelgium
    @CraftBelgium 10 років тому

    I got level 10 and 34 minutes later i got a don't starve booster pack

  • @BGkockata
    @BGkockata 10 років тому

    You are real genius and cool youtuber,how dont u have 100k++++++ subs?U just look like the big youtubers but u have low subs :(

  • @purpul4888
    @purpul4888 9 років тому +2

    My friend got one and he wasn't even lvl 5 xD

  • @mattheymc
    @mattheymc 10 років тому

    Thanks for the info, very appreciated :)

  • @nickb.1857
    @nickb.1857 9 років тому +1

    I just got 2 booster packs in my whole life...

  • @IZZYZIGG
    @IZZYZIGG 8 років тому +1

    I still don't know wtf these are for.

  • @Freef_01
    @Freef_01 7 років тому +1

    So if i once get an booster pack it means im one of the most lucky persons of the world?
    GG Steam, we love and hate you...

    • @Aquadood23
      @Aquadood23 7 років тому

      not if its a really small game that virtually nobody cares about outside of trading cards, if its a larger game like undertale or payday 2 for example, then yes you would be extremely lucky because of how many people play the game.

    • @Freef_01
      @Freef_01 7 років тому

      Still...the chance still is incredibly low.

  • @xyproxy4023
    @xyproxy4023 10 років тому

    Awesome vid as usual

  • @rageoh938
    @rageoh938 10 років тому +1

    so if 25 000 people its like 0.025 %

    • @Ermy1996
      @Ermy1996 9 років тому +1

      if all the people are level 1 yes. If they are level 100 much much less

  • @rageoh938
    @rageoh938 10 років тому

    ok now all make sence

  • @hugeldugelking9319
    @hugeldugelking9319 7 років тому +2

    That's too much for my brain

  • @charlie_lee_rhee8866
    @charlie_lee_rhee8866 10 років тому +1

    Aww.

  • @AyEsGee
    @AyEsGee 9 років тому +1

    I got 2 from the same game.. in 2 weeks, kek.

    • @AyEsGee
      @AyEsGee 9 років тому

      +AyEsGee level 20 lol

    • @AyEsGee
      @AyEsGee 9 років тому

      +AyEsGee Makes sense. It was an indie as fuck game

    • @gismopatch
      @gismopatch 8 років тому

      +AyEsGee i get games free codes i sell 3 then get a booster pack an hour later containing a foil then i died on the floor

  • @changemystateofmind3659
    @changemystateofmind3659 8 років тому +1

    thats why u should buy shitiest games almost nobody plays, i already got a booster pack and im only lvl 20

    • @emptysis44
      @emptysis44 6 років тому

      insane, im level 100 and i havent got any boosterpacks in 4 years

    • @shittooez
      @shittooez 6 років тому

      Rly? im lvl 50 and i have gotten 2 booster packs this week.

    • @shittooez
      @shittooez 6 років тому

      even though i've got 195 games and around 100 of them have 500 active players, it's still rare that i have gotten 2 booster packs in a week.

    • @shittooez
      @shittooez 6 років тому

      i dont remember what one of them was called because i unpacked it, but the other one is called PlanCon: Space Conflict Booster Pack.

    • @shittooez
      @shittooez 6 років тому

      why are you wondering?

  • @magicarp101
    @magicarp101 9 років тому +4

    terria,. Seriously. Terria. it's pronounced tear-ar-e-uh

  • @GzGamingkool
    @GzGamingkool 10 років тому +1

    niceeeeeeeee

  • @tiesvantuil3986
    @tiesvantuil3986 9 років тому +1

    draw my steam tutorial

  • @MoogieBear
    @MoogieBear 10 років тому

    you are real Genius =)

  • @Guilherme-mo2mz
    @Guilherme-mo2mz 5 років тому +1

    0:18 liar