Gotta say I'm completely impressed with this playthrough. I went pervasive and got SUPER stuck. Night 3 was complete AGONY with so MANY toads I ended up just stopping. I had about 60 ants on pervasive, i was able to steal 4 aphid nests, didn't really matter to the toad's XD. Can't wait to see your guide for the 4.2 challenge. Thanks!
no problem, I tried so many times with pervasive, but when I did a head to head test in the arena, found only 10-15 vigorous died so I decided to try it out and it went way better. Keep on trying and good luck on beating it!
Yep, that worked. Your strategy was similar to mine, except with the vigorous modifier, you can afford to be more aggressive. I hadn't tried it on insane, yet, because I struggled to beat it on hard before, but your strategy worked.
I guess my problem was I never upgraded them. I literally had 60 workers and the rest of the entire colony filled with soldiers. It was like 900+ soldier spots with a little food storage. And even on medium i lost. I had to wait a long time to build them up and in that time the bullfrog went to max health, which was fine because I still killed it no problem. But once the hoard came out it was such an ungodly amount of amphibians in the nest my queen was surrounded by dozens of frogs, it was just a big mass of frogs on the death screen and I kinda rage quit ngl.
yeah it was a bit of a tough level to figure out. Upgrading fire ants is so worth it. Not only are they a lot better, you get two ants per lvl 3 tile. for every 120 food you get two lvl 3 ants compared to three lvl 1 ants. They are much better in combat and food efficient
In my opinion the best way to do this on pervasive is start off with soldiers immediately to get strength and make sure your gathering food from outside atleast you won’t lose workers so much xd
I died on the last amphibian wave, WITH 265 VIGOROUS FIRE ANTS, that was bad from my part, but also from the game, BECAUSE SOME WORKERS JUST GROUPED LIKE FROGS THAT THEN PROCEEDED TO MASSACRE ALL WORKERS and i died on numbers. Had around 4000 food. Very sad =(.
Seeing this strat is quite different than mine. I have a similar start as you showed, but I usually invade the little black ants nest by day 2. Its a great addition to food stores and as long as your ants don't get bad rng (big headed ants attack day 2, enemies not aggroing as often) you will be able to easily defeat this lvl on insane.
With prob over 120 soldiers i couldnt take those ants with the super majors (Ofc, they were level 1) so i upgraded many to level 2 and 3 and i believe i had around 150+… Still struggled but i were able to take it eventually. I had no ants to fight after… I had all my ants aswell as new ones, some food so i decided to go after the big toad… Killed that, realized there was a invasion after, so i took all the food the big one gave and ended up having like 2000 food… So… Around 200 where most are level 3 and 2… Around 2000 food… And i couldnt survive the invasion, considering there were probably 15 toads +, 10 Salamanders + and probably something more or whatever (I didnt actually count, but there was a ton) I were on normal difficulty…
they are brutal, try to clear your brood chambers of toads. If the workers are able to replace the eggs then you should be fine, unless five of them are clustered in which case you might be toast
Not sure if there has been an update to make it harder but I had about 400 lvl 3 soldiers and over 100 workers making I had loads of food but I still got completely smashed during the final assault after killing the bullfrog my workers could not keep up with delivering eggs and my battle force just keep getting wittled down until I had nothing left. When I finally lost I still had over 1000 food.
i lost like 5 times even tho i managed to get up to 150 soldiers level 3 after raiding both colonies in night 1 and 2, the toads would kill me in night 3 but i was fighting them all at once and always in corridors, this level is very hard idk if ima be able to do it
The final amphibian wave has to actually enter the nest through a northern or southern entry way, you can keep them from entering on insane with a total of 4 groups of 19 fire ant tiles (2 at each entry way) the victroy condition checks if there's hostiles in the nest in 2 minutes, if you delay the amphibians enough you can win while your army is still fighting.
Gotta say I'm completely impressed with this playthrough. I went pervasive and got SUPER stuck. Night 3 was complete AGONY with so MANY toads I ended up just stopping. I had about 60 ants on pervasive, i was able to steal 4 aphid nests, didn't really matter to the toad's XD. Can't wait to see your guide for the 4.2 challenge. Thanks!
no problem, I tried so many times with pervasive, but when I did a head to head test in the arena, found only 10-15 vigorous died so I decided to try it out and it went way better. Keep on trying and good luck on beating it!
I thank you for the effort you put into making this video, I enjoyed watching and am impressed by your skill in Empires of the Undergrowth
thank you for the kind words! I plan on making a video for every level on insane
Him: “Are you having issues on beating 4.1 on insane?”
Me: I’m having issues on beating 4.1 on easy..
Also I never seen the bull frog brush ants off
Yep, that worked. Your strategy was similar to mine, except with the vigorous modifier, you can afford to be more aggressive. I hadn't tried it on insane, yet, because I struggled to beat it on hard before, but your strategy worked.
There are SO MANY TOADS
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Thanks for making this video! All the tutorials i could find had no commentary, so I didn't know why they were doing what they were doing.
yeah that's what annoyed me about the other videos available so i made my own, glad you enjoyed it!
@@ShepherdsPieGaming Can you make some more EOTU videos? I'd particularly like one on the demo level "surrounded".
Tip don't look at the frog at all and it won't eat the toads and salamanders and in turn it won't regen
It still eats even when you’re not looking at it
@@TheEmperor0000 like on day 2
The frog hoped away
I guess my problem was I never upgraded them. I literally had 60 workers and the rest of the entire colony filled with soldiers. It was like 900+ soldier spots with a little food storage. And even on medium i lost. I had to wait a long time to build them up and in that time the bullfrog went to max health, which was fine because I still killed it no problem. But once the hoard came out it was such an ungodly amount of amphibians in the nest my queen was surrounded by dozens of frogs, it was just a big mass of frogs on the death screen and I kinda rage quit ngl.
yeah it was a bit of a tough level to figure out. Upgrading fire ants is so worth it. Not only are they a lot better, you get two ants per lvl 3 tile. for every 120 food you get two lvl 3 ants compared to three lvl 1 ants. They are much better in combat and food efficient
@@ShepherdsPieGaming I didn’t realize you get two per tile at level three, that’s a game changer
damn
*ShepherdsPie clicks the food/attack instead of hotkeying*
He just like me fr🤣
In my opinion the best way to do this on pervasive is start off with soldiers immediately to get strength and make sure your gathering food from outside atleast you won’t lose workers so much xd
If you have enough numbers when the toads attack easy dub
Plus food
I died on the last amphibian wave, WITH 265 VIGOROUS FIRE ANTS, that was bad from my part, but also from the game, BECAUSE SOME WORKERS JUST GROUPED LIKE FROGS THAT THEN PROCEEDED TO MASSACRE ALL WORKERS and i died on numbers. Had around 4000 food. Very sad =(.
Yeah sometimes the last wave destroys you if they group up too much, a little ring but if you micro you can do it
Thanks for believing in me, i will try tomorrow, for you maybe yesterday =).@@ShepherdsPieGaming
PRAISE THE LYNX SPIDER!!😆
Seeing this strat is quite different than mine. I have a similar start as you showed, but I usually invade the little black ants nest by day 2. Its a great addition to food stores and as long as your ants don't get bad rng (big headed ants attack day 2, enemies not aggroing as often) you will be able to easily defeat this lvl on insane.
it's not a tough level as long as you have an idea of what you're doing, fun and the right amount of challenging
If you want max upgrades for all of your ants you can use speed tiles to get all of your ants to level three in a 19 chamber
With prob over 120 soldiers i couldnt take those ants with the super majors (Ofc, they were level 1) so i upgraded many to level 2 and 3 and i believe i had around 150+… Still struggled but i were able to take it eventually. I had no ants to fight after… I had all my ants aswell as new ones, some food so i decided to go after the big toad… Killed that, realized there was a invasion after, so i took all the food the big one gave and ended up having like 2000 food…
So… Around 200 where most are level 3 and 2… Around 2000 food… And i couldnt survive the invasion, considering there were probably 15 toads +, 10 Salamanders + and probably something more or whatever (I didnt actually count, but there was a ton)
I were on normal difficulty…
I have attempted this and it's hard
this si realy help full!
glad you found it helpful, I will be updating old guides and creating ones for tier 5 in the coming weeks
I to struggle on the third night with the toads but I get closer and closer every time
they are brutal, try to clear your brood chambers of toads. If the workers are able to replace the eggs then you should be fine, unless five of them are clustered in which case you might be toast
Not sure if there has been an update to make it harder but I had about 400 lvl 3 soldiers and over 100 workers making I had loads of food but I still got completely smashed during the final assault after killing the bullfrog my workers could not keep up with delivering eggs and my battle force just keep getting wittled down until I had nothing left. When I finally lost I still had over 1000 food.
No they have not changed it, you might be letting them get too bunched up, if they started clustering together then you’re toast
i lost like 5 times even tho i managed to get up to 150 soldiers level 3 after raiding both colonies in night 1 and 2, the toads would kill me in night 3 but i was fighting them all at once and always in corridors, this level is very hard idk if ima be able to do it
The final amphibian wave has to actually enter the nest through a northern or southern entry way, you can keep them from entering on insane with a total of 4 groups of 19 fire ant tiles (2 at each entry way) the victroy condition checks if there's hostiles in the nest in 2 minutes, if you delay the amphibians enough you can win while your army is still fighting.
How do the aphids work?
YOU SAID LITTLE BLACK ANTS >:(
Yes I said that a lot in the video what about it
I WANT NOW
@@nooyPemguim mood hahaha
Okay
i losed on the final part , i really think it's a joke and i out all my ants (250 lv3) and they group and kill me :(
yeah you need to be a little proactive about taking them out before they group up too much, and maybe a little luck
I cant even beat it on hard 💀