The p170 sounds more warm and full . Nice to the ears . The sm 57 is bright on the high end , less full . I’m a fan of that warm sound . I like the p170
In the case of a wood flute, and perhaps some other very high content there is this accentuated highs thing that is perhaps a reason to not use SM57. Depends upon exact sound content. It's a subtle thing, but a bit less bump in very high part helps smooth out some flutes, piccolo, perhaps violin, some guitar, harpsichord, some saxes, double reeds.
I agree, the SM57 won that contest. I think if I could only have one mic for the rest of my life I'd go with the 57 due to it's versatility... it can pretty much handle any instrument or voice you throw at it, whereas other mics just have one or two things they excel at. Great flute playing, by the way.
his voice is movie trailer narrator level. this has not gone unnoticed in his previous videos. the fact that he plays bamboo flute on top of that and he makes these great comparison videos makes him a very interesting youtuber.
Gee ... nice boomy bass voice ... makes me remember the Sound of Philadelphia ... nice. Well scripted and narrated well with an even pace. Nicely done. Works for me. This is how this type of A/B comparison should be done. JT
SM57 has some of the wind and breath noise accentuated. The condenser mic was more even and did not pull out the noise part of the wood flute. I love my SM57 and SM58, but I use them on voice and brass usually. I'm really considering the AKG for saxes, just because of this odd high frequency bump of the SM57 which is my usual go to mic. In the case of an instrument with wind and breath noise, it' slightly distracting to accentuate the blowing type sounds. Emphasize the critical instrument sounds as opposed to extreme high content.
Nice playing ! I prefer the P170, it seems to me that there is more 'material' that can be EQ'ed with the P170 while the SM-57 is more of a dummy proof formula that will blend easily in a mix but wont stand out as much.
Very nice review, although I do have a problem with my AKG P170, it only records on the left side... Nothing comes out of my right speaker, do you have any clue of what could be the problem?
What kind of recording software are you using? You have to record in mono if you are just using one microphone. You have your software set to record in stereo. That's why you only hear one speaker.
Hi Trace. At the risk of seeming contradictory, I like the sound of the P170 better than the SM57. It seems sweeter to me and a bit smoother way up top. I'm wondering if you have any online place, like a forum or something like that where we could exchange ideas on all things flute/recording related? I'm sure that we could learn from each other! Thanks very much and as always, Cheers from DownUnder, Don
Donald MacGregor No, not contrary at all. Microphones and recording can be some of the most subjective subjects out there. When I test a flute I compare it to how I hear it live. To me, the SM57 sounded as bright as I hear the flute unplugged. The 170 darkened it's tone a bit, making even a richer recording but to me not exactly how i hear the flute. The old Perception 170, the silver one, handles lower frequencies better than the 57. I'm expecting this one to as well. As far as sharing ideas. I'm sure there are plenty of groups and forums in Facebook. Cheers!
They’re both good in their own unique ways. Depending on the song, one will fit better than the other...or perhaps either will work. The final mix will be the judge
Hello, Trace! Please, share us your wisdom - how do you manage to get such a clean, loud and clear signal with your gear? Because i have same exact microphone (AKG) and preamplifier/mixer (Behringer) as you, but get a lot of hiss in my signal. What am i doing wrong? Do you use any hiss removal gear or plugins in your signal chain? Many thanks!
@@CaneMajor as i read on this site, new black has -36 db for sensitivity and silver -38db. and as i see in your comment on a sound quality is not a different. for me is important, because on eBay.com is meny used silvers for cheap. (sorry for my English) www.crutchfield.com/S-GejkTkNCOMt/compare_854P170_854P170REC/AKG-Perception-170-vs-AKG-P170.html
The p170 sounds more warm and full . Nice to the ears . The sm 57 is bright on the high end , less full . I’m a fan of that warm sound . I like the p170
I feel you, and am finding the sm57 less and less useful the longer I record.
i'm glad to read your comment. i agree, i feel like the p170 might make a nice drum overhead for my budget drum recording setup.
In the case of a wood flute, and perhaps some other very high content there is this accentuated highs thing that is perhaps a reason to not use SM57. Depends upon exact sound content. It's a subtle thing, but a bit less bump in very high part helps smooth out some flutes, piccolo, perhaps violin, some guitar, harpsichord, some saxes, double reeds.
The 57 is a better microphone for recording farts 💨
Wow, what a voice you have!
I agree, the SM57 won that contest. I think if I could only have one mic for the rest of my life I'd go with the 57 due to it's versatility... it can pretty much handle any instrument or voice you throw at it, whereas other mics just have one or two things they excel at.
Great flute playing, by the way.
Dude, you have a very clear and good voice. nice to hear it)
No one talking about how great your voice sounded in the P170!
Oh yes! The P170 is one of my favorite microphones for just that reason! Cheers!
his voice is movie trailer narrator level. this has not gone unnoticed in his previous videos. the fact that he plays bamboo flute on top of that and he makes these great comparison videos makes him a very interesting youtuber.
Sm57 is so lovely. For me much clearer, warm, with more emotions!
Hmm, the sm57 sounded warm to you ? Are you sure ? I think you mean to say the p170
thank you sir! 👍 imho, the 57 has more dynamics, being "dynamic" against condenser.... Really legendary the SM57 🎤
Your voice makes them all sound great. But fantastic comparison anyway!
I wish they would make a large condenser microphone that looked like the akg, it looks so cool
Your playing sounds beautiful
Gee ... nice boomy bass voice ... makes me remember the Sound of Philadelphia ... nice. Well scripted and narrated well with an even pace. Nicely done. Works for me. This is how this type of A/B comparison should be done. JT
Wow, que sorpresa me llevé cuando abrí el video y escuché su voz!!
SM57 has some of the wind and breath noise accentuated. The condenser mic was more even and did not pull out the noise part of the wood flute. I love my SM57 and SM58, but I use them on voice and brass usually. I'm really considering the AKG for saxes, just because of this odd high frequency bump of the SM57 which is my usual go to mic. In the case of an instrument with wind and breath noise, it' slightly distracting to accentuate the blowing type sounds. Emphasize the critical instrument sounds as opposed to extreme high content.
You are right, SM57 is too bright around 6.4 kHz. However P170 is too dull around the same region. I would reccommend trying Octava MK012.
Amazing video, love the flute jam!
p170를 바이올린연주에 적합할까요?
Me haz ayudado muchísimo en decidirme a comprar el micrófono akg p170
How are these with Percussion?
Nice playing ! I prefer the P170, it seems to me that there is more 'material' that can be EQ'ed with the P170 while the SM-57 is more of a dummy proof formula that will blend easily in a mix but wont stand out as much.
Very nice review, although I do have a problem with my AKG P170, it only records on the left side... Nothing comes out of my right speaker, do you have any clue of what could be the problem?
What kind of recording software are you using? You have to record in mono if you are just using one microphone. You have your software set to record in stereo. That's why you only hear one speaker.
@@CaneMajor I'm using Ableton live, but I did find the answer, I just have to record in mono! Thank's for your fast answer tho ;)
I'm wondering if the gain was the same on both mics?
Hello. I had to adjust the gain up for the SM57 and after I recorded both mics I normalized both recordings so their peak volumes were the same.
@@CaneMajor oh OK. So the sm 57 had more gain. Cool thanks.
How does this compare to the Blue Ember?
oops...I found the video.
Hi Trace. At the risk of seeming contradictory, I like the sound of the P170 better than the SM57. It seems sweeter to me and a bit smoother way up top. I'm wondering if you have any online place, like a forum or something like that where we could exchange ideas on all things flute/recording related? I'm sure that we could learn from each other! Thanks very much and as always, Cheers from DownUnder, Don
Donald MacGregor No, not contrary at all. Microphones and recording can be some of the most subjective subjects out there. When I test a flute I compare it to how I hear it live. To me, the SM57 sounded as bright as I hear the flute unplugged. The 170 darkened it's tone a bit, making even a richer recording but to me not exactly how i hear the flute.
The old Perception 170, the silver one, handles lower frequencies better than the 57. I'm expecting this one to as well.
As far as sharing ideas. I'm sure there are plenty of groups and forums in Facebook. Cheers!
I didn't see your comments until I posted my own. I agree with you fully. The P170 seemed to capture a broader spectrum of tone.
I also think
this guy is so cool
should i get the at2035 or akg p170 for recording acoustic guitar fingerstyle? please help me choose T_T thanks!
Hello! The 2035 is a few steps above the P170 especially for guitar. Good luck!
@@CaneMajor This is just what i needed to know, now i'm going for the at2035, thanks a lot Sir!!! It really helped me : )
I'm late to the party, but the AT4040 would be a good option, too! I love mine on my acoustic guitar.
I Like the Sound of the Shure sm57 i think about buy, it with a Fethead or Cloudlifter.
Do I really need a Fethead or Cloudlifter for Vocals?
I have a sE2200a II MP but no treated Room there is my Problem.
So I wanna sell my sE2200a II MP and switch to Shure.
Thank you, sir! Amazing difference! SM57 as for me is absolutely natural!
P170 very awesome also in cheap preamp , the sm57 good only on avalon quality preamps
Hi great video! Can this mic be used for voiceovers? and podcasts? thank you
Helder Cortez his voice sounded pretty great through it!
Good video. But I thought the P170 represented the flute better than the SM57. JMO.
They’re both good in their own unique ways. Depending on the song, one will fit better than the other...or perhaps either will work. The final mix will be the judge
Hello, Trace! Please, share us your wisdom - how do you manage to get such a clean, loud and clear signal with your gear? Because i have same exact microphone (AKG) and preamplifier/mixer (Behringer) as you, but get a lot of hiss in my signal. What am i doing wrong? Do you use any hiss removal gear or plugins in your signal chain? Many thanks!
Hello! Try this first, if it doesn't help get back to me. ua-cam.com/video/tQYQZh1LcT4/v-deo.html Good luck!
Hello man. I very very interested between the old AKG p170 (silver) and New P170 (black) is the different?
Hello! I can barely tell the difference between the new and old models of any of the Perceptions I have. The new ones just cost a lot less.
@@CaneMajor as i read on this site, new black has -36 db for sensitivity and silver -38db.
and as i see in your comment on a sound quality is not a different. for me is important, because on eBay.com is meny used silvers for cheap. (sorry for my English)
www.crutchfield.com/S-GejkTkNCOMt/compare_854P170_854P170REC/AKG-Perception-170-vs-AKG-P170.html
more room in Sm57
good sm57
I would love to Hire you to play some Indian Style flute on some tracks. Please contact me if you’re available.
p170 easily
the 57 sounded better for flute