This remind May of Al Gore’s speech she gave in order to win the Nobel peace prize it was about global warming and had no credential data is back it up
@@JulianKrause What computer and daw do you use? Can you do this with the sm58 too? Your videos are great. Thank you for them and in advance for your answers.
I found this out asking my gf to listen to sound tests over discord I wonder if there's an extra eq curve to add to fix it. It seems in his graphs the sm57 has a db or 2 higher high end... maybe thats what we hear.
I've been meaning to buy the A81WS I was told that the distance and the foam brought the 57 closer to 7b without EQ. Well done. I wish more streamer would just buy a 57 instead of condensers.
I was considering buying an SM7B until I remembered I have an old SM57 from back when I recorded guitar. Never thought to use it as a vocal mic, thanks so much for doing this work and sharing the results.
Lately I've been seeing people say that attaching the A81WS windscreen makes an SM57 sound very close to an SM7B. It would be interesting to see this experiment repeated with an SM57 with the A81WS attached vs. the SM7B with the larger of its two windscreens attached.
You are a genuis Julian!. Out of curiosity I tried this EQ with the sE V7 mic and it gives me a SM7b with a subtle yet clear increase on sensitivity and supercardioid pattern. Amazing.
Yes I could tell, the plosives I could hear behaved differently (the ones on the sm57 reverberated a bit more) and the upper treble on the sm57 was also a bit grainer and less smooth in comparison to the sm7b even though they were at the same volume.
I agree with your analysis. I like the EQ'd 57 sound more for live performance (just a tiny bit more BITE), and the SM7b for studio capture. But honestly, I'm very impressed with the 57's performance.
Neat video. The EQ works fairly well. But I have to say there are so many more differences between the 57 and the 7... • The 7 has a humbucker which is pretty handy if you have an EM field in your vicinity that you can't fix. • The 7's grill enforces proper mouth-to-capsule distance (for both proximity effect and plosives) in a way that's not obtrusive like a pop screen and is easy to use--which can be essential if you are recording guests who aren't technically oriented and don't have perfect mic technique (you could 3D print a 7 body for the 57 but by the time you've spent the time and money to do that you may as well buy a 7, plus the 3D print design is far from perfect). • Much of the 7's seemingly lower output is due to that enforced distance, meaning if you're using the 57 at a proper distance for spoken word or singing it won't actually have that much more output than the 7 (there are plenty of videos out there on using the 7 with sub 60 dB gain preamps). • The 7 has internal damping which prevents undue handling noise. • If you can get the sound you want without EQ, that's better than with EQ. • Even the EQ'ed sound of the 57 isn't quite right and the difference matters, especially when listening to it for an hour straight. • And more... All these things add up to: just buy a 7. Shure know what they're doing with their prices and you get what you pay for.
I've heard a few videos addressing similarities between SM57, SM58, and SM7b concluding that no one needs SM7b for streaming. It looks good in a video for no one cares what mic is used as long as it sounds good. Great video, man!
I could certainly hear a difference even after the EQ. But I still guessed wrong, so it's clearly not a "sm57 vs sm7b" difference. The one I _thought_ was the sm57 had more high mids - low highs, sounded slightly compressed in that area. The other one sounded slightly warmer perhaps, but I liked that bump/compression. And then it turned out that it was the sm7b that had the bump/compression... that surprised me. Great video! BTW even if I heard the voice clips several times, I might not pick them out blindly... it might just be my imagining, that's always a possibility.
I've never been a huge fan of the crazy low end of the SM7B personally. It sounds great in certain applications but I feel it also sounds kinda muffled sometimes. Less sharp.
Pretty handy!! I personally use a shure sm 57 as my stage Mic conected to a voicelive3 and did by ear an eq adjustment very close to your settings! Now i Will be much more precise! Thanks a lot!
At first I thought mic A was the SM57, but when I heard mic B it has an upper midrange peak that is clearly different than the SM7. You can always eq the bottom end, but there is a masking effect in the upper lows so it's a more difficult place to look for differences.
yes i could identify it right, there is a slight high frequency resonance in the sm57 but it is very subtle, i would also say i like this. Thanks a lot, very good infos! As always! I very appreciate your effort to give uns such great infos!
I bought an SM57 about 15 years ago and still works. Even then, we were told that the SM57 is for *instruments* and NOT for vocal use...that is for the SM58 to do!
They really do sound the same its crazy i have listened to them bout 30 times but i stll feel like the 7B has an ever so slightly "creamier?" tone if you will...like everything just seems smoother but if you didnt reveal them im not sure i could blindly tell. Great video dude!
Yes, you are right. Frequency response is only one parameter of how we hear them. Transients can be smoother for one mic and also don't forget all the little phase distortions that the post EQ introduces.
Well, to me they are completelly diferent in sound, even sharing similar capsules. Sm57 is a great mic, but it needs a nice preamp to get a usable sound. Cheap interface preamps aren't good to push them. The diference is so audible that you'll think you changed the mic.
this was super well made and super insightful for someone relatively new to higher end audio products! If you find the time, I think it would be super interesting if you could see how close you can make a microphone from a completely different brand (something like the xm8500) sound like the ever-popular sm7b!
hey Julian, MAD respect for you bro for this video!! you've done such an amazing job of figuring out the details and helping us with this man! Appreciate it!!! I had a question though, would the same be possible with an SM58? a friend of mine has a 58, so really wanted to try it out before buying! hope you see this. Cheers!!
thank you for this video. Have you considered repeating this procedure with a low cost SM57 clone like the $13 Pyle PDMIC78? It would be cool to see if you could get the SM7B sound for $13. Anyone else reading the have suggestions for other cheap SM57 clones?
I own a couple of the Behringer XM8500, which sounds surprisingly good, and costs around $20 - I’d love to see how close that could get to the sm7b, too! I produce for a singer/songwriter who just ordered the 7b, so I will definitely try and compare the two on the exact same take. Tempted to just do what you did, but it seems like alot of work 😅 but the results might be useful to others, since this mic is getting increasingly popular, so I’d love to see your vid on it.
I think the problem with this video is that your voice is uniquely suited for both these mics as it's very bassy and deep. As well, you are using them in the same angle each time, so it is possible the pattern of collection they provide is also different, which would make real-world use different as well (and therefore, sound very different).
I could hear the difference, but its pretty close. One thing that helps is using the A81 wind screen on the SM57. It gives you a little more bass sound. I just did a video showing it.
Actually, for me it was possible to identfiy the mics, listening to the blinded sound samples with a BOSE speaker connected. The SM7B sounds more "full but compressed" in the low end. However, the music samples in the end sounded identical to me.
The only time I could hear a noticeable difference was in the full band mix at the end. The SM7B felt slightly bigger, fuller, warmer in the low mids/mids
Yeah, I thought the plosives gave it away. The 7 seems 'plosive-proof'. Overlooking that, they sound about the same after EQ. I do wonder how they'd compare about a foot away from your mouth. We hear lots of reports of complications in using the low sensitivity SM7B. And your reports here have noted the increased noise when you have to crank the gain up on many low cost interfaces. Overall, very enlightening. I haven't read much about "modeling mics." I'd love to learn more about that. Regards,
The tone is very similar after EQ, but the 57 is more sensitive to plosives, and the even with the pop filter you could hear them. Maybe with a bigger chunk of foam on it, they would sound almost identical.
I legitimately heard a difference and guessed correctly, but only because B was slightly brighter. B also seemed to have more plosives. 1 or 2 EQ moves on either and they would be just about indistinguishable. Either way, the differences weren’t really enough to justify $200 more if you have plenty of EQs
It’s just a hunch, because they sounded so close, but the plosives on mic B made me think it it was a low end boosted 57... which it was. But to be honest, it was still just a guess. Great work!
I guess the A81WS will get the SM57 to sound more like an SM7B as it attenuates high frequencies. But a big foam cover on the mic will usually attenate all high frequencies and the main difference between the SM7B and the SM57 is around 7kHz and 12kHz. I think that using an A81WS is a valid method, but EQing the SM57 can get it even closer to the SM7B.
I agree with Julian. The A81WS makes the mic sound muffled. Even after you take out the inner black mesh, the sound is not as "clear". For my dark voice, the default freq. response of the SM57 is ideal. I only have to reduce the 4.5-5.2K frequency (the area where I get those harsh T and S sounds) and rest is great! The windscreen is great for podcast use but not for voiceovers imo.
I know this is an old video but I'll still try at asking a question to you Julian or to anyone that might know: Is there any way to set a microphone eq system wide? So I can use the eq on Discord, Teams, Ableton etc.
Julian, thanks for the great insight…as always! Would it be possible to plot and match the SM7B’s onboard Low Cut and Presence Boost switches as well? If not, no worries, but it would be interesting to see what those are doing to the frequency response curve! Thanks 😊
I didn't have to watch the video past the two minute mark; I couldn't distinguish a difference between the SM57 and the SM7B without modification. KEKW
The Eq is like the make up! Can "fix" the appearance but it still be the same. In these case, the presence of the SM57 is something vital in the mic and if you cut it with an EQ or filter, loose an important part.
Hey its a pretty cool vid. But u make it look so easy, like just copying and paste these values, so I bought it. And now I'm standing alone putting these values anywhere but don't know how as many in the comments here and there are no answers. Can u pls make a vid how to bring these values to the main apps like discord, obs, fruity loops, Cubase and voicemeter? All in 1 vid to bring the information to beginners.. Pls. That would be so helpful to many
Thx for saying it's easy copy and pasting.. Not even a single app has a place to just paste them. Now I'm sitting here all day and feel dumber than before.. U should have told its for professionals. U ruined my chose.. I'd rather had payed 200 more and have no stress.. U don't know how much this fucks me up right now
There's a slight high and low frequency between both mics, but that's due to me being an audiophile. The microphones show great similar frequencies and actually almost completely unnoticeable. But my best guess Mic A Is the SM7B and Mic B Is the SM57
there isn't reason to have this resolution to calibrate two mic. you could put a smooth of about 1/3 or 1/6 octave to do a simpler and better work, in my opinion ;) However great job :)
I use an SM57 with the huge A81WS windstock. Same as they use in the white house. The filter costed me $12 tho. New (IF you can find them) go for $69. At that price, you'd be better off with another microphone altogether. Sounds pretty good tho.
Any thoughts on how to change the eq for an SM58? Looks like a bunch of people asked in here but didn’t see an answer (UA-cam doesn’t have a search in comments...) Awesome video! Thank you!
i guessed SM7b was A. i was right. i think what gave it away was the plosives you were talking about, before you mentioned it, it was a dead give away. great comparison tho, i got lucky, i got my SM7B used in perfect condition for $150. count me lucky.
This might be a silly question but I'm just starting out. Do you apply these EQ filters before you record the audio with the SM57 or would this be part of the post-processing? Assuming that you would still need to process the audio when recording from the Shure SM7B, does this mean you're basically doing two steps instead of one(Using EQ filters for the SM57 while recording, then applying post-processing procedures to that recording). As supposed to the SM7B where you wouldn't have to apply those EQ filters and instead go straight to the post-processing procedure. I'm not sure if my question was clear, but thanks anyways.
Would you be able to do an eq video on the podmic? I know it can't sound like an sm7b but it would be nice to have a nice richer low end, only videos I can find are boosting the bass way too much, would be nice to have a video with more nuance such as this.
Hi, I want to record my written poetry professionally. Suggest me a good audio interface and microphone. But my room is not sound proof. The sound from outside comes inside our room. If I use Audio Technica 2035 mic and Shuru SM 58, then what will be the difference between the two? And which audio interface would be better for ShureSM 58. In which there is no noise and the quality is also good at the time of recording.
I am really curious what EQ'ing you could do with the SM57 and its massively huge A81WS pop filter, to remove those plosives (as used on the president of the USA's mic).
I believe, depending on the mic, we should focus on emulations so people shouldn’t necessarily have to spend so much money on microphones even though some will anyway and I actually already have been doing a similar technique like this for awhile now.
I have all my SM58’s sounding just like SM7B’s… thought I was the only one that knew they could easily sound the same but nope seems I’m late to the game
This video is like a spaceship builders explaining how to build a rocket to a regular guy. I rather just buy the sm7b and a tascam recorder and get to work. To make the sms7 you need the mic, the equilizer box and the recorder. On studio you need the sm57, eq box or pc with a plug in interface and a program to record, either way you spend alot a cash, I would just go sm57 $ 400 and the tascam x6 $300 memory card $49 and xlr cable for a grand total of $950 bucks.
What if you use a pop filter instead of the shure A2WS wind foam? would that be better for plosives? would your eq settings still work? Do you have any recommendations for a Pop screen????
One more downside (though I would argue that this doesn't really matter that much) is the phase coloration. It usually didn't matter to most people, unless you go really crazy with your vocal.
@@JulianKrause, it was quite audible, when you compare the whole track! The phase response of the mic is affecting the dynamics, clarity and transparency the most. Human voice doesn't have the same amount of overtones like some instruments like strings, for example. But if you use a good passive EQ, the timbre degradation may be less audible
One solution to dealing with plosives on the sm57: Before attaching the Shure pop filter on the sm57, cut up an old, cheap standard mic windscreen into a couple of small circles about the size of the end of the Shure pop filter. Stuff those circular pieces into the end of the sm57 pop filter and then attach it. This will slightly lower the high frequencies (making it sound more like the sm7b, and it will make the sm57 much more resistant to plosives. It's a cheap, simple hack, but it works pretty well.
You could also go with a different wind screen, such as the Shure A81WS, instead of the Shure A2WS shown in this video. It's much bigger, ensuring a wider distance between your mouth and the grille at all times, as well as reducing more plosives due to being much thicker.
I can't give a thumbs up high enough for this video. No stupid music, no lame comedy, just pure science and a very detailed, yet easy to understand explanation.
The audio engineering world must protect this man.
Legend says shure try to localise him 🤣😂
We need to take out a collective life insurance policy on him. Does he have adequate healthcare?
I definetly agree!! Eheh!
Assumed a lot
This remind May of Al Gore’s speech she gave in order to win the Nobel peace prize it was about global warming and had no credential data is back it up
You, sir, are some freakin' genius! This review was mind-blowing... Can't thank you enough.
Glad you enjoyed the video :)
@@JulianKrause What computer and daw do you use? Can you do this with the sm58 too? Your videos are great. Thank you for them and in advance for your answers.
The biggest difference is definitely on the plosives. Also, the SM57 has a slightly harsher top end, even with the EQ applied.
I found this out asking my gf to listen to sound tests over discord
I wonder if there's an extra eq curve to add to fix it. It seems in his graphs the sm57 has a db or 2 higher high end... maybe thats what we hear.
I've been meaning to buy the A81WS I was told that the distance and the foam brought the 57 closer to 7b without EQ. Well done. I wish more streamer would just buy a 57 instead of condensers.
I was considering buying an SM7B until I remembered I have an old SM57 from back when I recorded guitar. Never thought to use it as a vocal mic, thanks so much for doing this work and sharing the results.
Lately I've been seeing people say that attaching the A81WS windscreen makes an SM57 sound very close to an SM7B. It would be interesting to see this experiment repeated with an SM57 with the A81WS attached vs. the SM7B with the larger of its two windscreens attached.
You are a genuis Julian!.
Out of curiosity I tried this EQ with the sE V7 mic and it gives me a SM7b with a subtle yet clear increase on sensitivity and supercardioid pattern. Amazing.
Yes I could tell, the plosives I could hear behaved differently (the ones on the sm57 reverberated a bit more) and the upper treble on the sm57 was also a bit grainer and less smooth in comparison to the sm7b even though they were at the same volume.
I agree with your analysis. I like the EQ'd 57 sound more for live performance (just a tiny bit more BITE), and the SM7b for studio capture. But honestly, I'm very impressed with the 57's performance.
Neat video. The EQ works fairly well. But I have to say there are so many more differences between the 57 and the 7... • The 7 has a humbucker which is pretty handy if you have an EM field in your vicinity that you can't fix. • The 7's grill enforces proper mouth-to-capsule distance (for both proximity effect and plosives) in a way that's not obtrusive like a pop screen and is easy to use--which can be essential if you are recording guests who aren't technically oriented and don't have perfect mic technique (you could 3D print a 7 body for the 57 but by the time you've spent the time and money to do that you may as well buy a 7, plus the 3D print design is far from perfect). • Much of the 7's seemingly lower output is due to that enforced distance, meaning if you're using the 57 at a proper distance for spoken word or singing it won't actually have that much more output than the 7 (there are plenty of videos out there on using the 7 with sub 60 dB gain preamps). • The 7 has internal damping which prevents undue handling noise. • If you can get the sound you want without EQ, that's better than with EQ. • Even the EQ'ed sound of the 57 isn't quite right and the difference matters, especially when listening to it for an hour straight. • And more... All these things add up to: just buy a 7. Shure know what they're doing with their prices and you get what you pay for.
Incredible. What a talent. Subscribed. Now the SM57 looks even more attractive
I've heard a few videos addressing similarities between SM57, SM58, and SM7b concluding that no one needs SM7b for streaming. It looks good in a video for no one cares what mic is used as long as it sounds good. Great video, man!
I could certainly hear a difference even after the EQ. But I still guessed wrong, so it's clearly not a "sm57 vs sm7b" difference. The one I _thought_ was the sm57 had more high mids - low highs, sounded slightly compressed in that area. The other one sounded slightly warmer perhaps, but I liked that bump/compression. And then it turned out that it was the sm7b that had the bump/compression... that surprised me. Great video!
BTW even if I heard the voice clips several times, I might not pick them out blindly... it might just be my imagining, that's always a possibility.
I've never been a huge fan of the crazy low end of the SM7B personally. It sounds great in certain applications but I feel it also sounds kinda muffled sometimes. Less sharp.
Is it me, or Shure58 and Shure57 sound clearer and more open in high frequencies than the boxy Sm7B, despite the opposite and big price difference?
Pretty handy!! I personally use a shure sm 57 as my stage Mic conected to a voicelive3 and did by ear an eq adjustment very close to your settings! Now i Will be much more precise! Thanks a lot!
I guessed correct once I turned my phone up and listened closer. Just a touch more crisp up top and didn't have that space in the low mids.
At first I thought mic A was the SM57, but when I heard mic B it has an upper midrange peak that is clearly different than the SM7. You can always eq the bottom end, but there is a masking effect in the upper lows so it's a more difficult place to look for differences.
I think a matchEQ like Ozone has built in would also work - but you need to have a SM7b to compare it to.
yes i could identify it right, there is a slight high frequency resonance in the sm57 but it is very subtle, i would also say i like this.
Thanks a lot, very good infos! As always! I very appreciate your effort to give uns such great infos!
I bought an SM57 about 15 years ago and still works. Even then, we were told that the SM57 is for *instruments* and NOT for vocal use...that is for the SM58 to do!
They really do sound the same its crazy i have listened to them bout 30 times but i stll feel like the 7B has an ever so slightly "creamier?" tone if you will...like everything just seems smoother but if you didnt reveal them im not sure i could blindly tell. Great video dude!
Yes, you are right. Frequency response is only one parameter of how we hear them. Transients can be smoother for one mic and also don't forget all the little phase distortions that the post EQ introduces.
Well, to me they are completelly diferent in sound, even sharing similar capsules.
Sm57 is a great mic, but it needs a nice preamp to get a usable sound. Cheap interface preamps aren't good to push them. The diference is so audible that you'll think you changed the mic.
This guy is a true hero
I already appreciated your work, but citing Douglas Adams deserves extra credit! Keep up the good job!!!
Great experiment Julian! Really well executed! Thanks!
this was super well made and super insightful for someone relatively new to higher end audio products! If you find the time, I think it would be super interesting if you could see how close you can make a microphone from a completely different brand (something like the xm8500) sound like the ever-popular sm7b!
Such a clear and direct video thank you so much Julian!
Bro, you're giving out gold for free. Thank you! Stay safe!
hey Julian, MAD respect for you bro for this video!! you've done such an amazing job of figuring out the details and helping us with this man! Appreciate it!!! I had a question though, would the same be possible with an SM58? a friend of mine has a 58, so really wanted to try it out before buying! hope you see this. Cheers!!
Thanks for the trick man. I try it out and I'm so happy with the result. Thanks a lot!
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Danke!!! I like this scientific approach. It is so German of you. Great. Simply the best! Liked and subscribed!
thank you for this video. Have you considered repeating this procedure with a low cost SM57 clone like the $13 Pyle PDMIC78? It would be cool to see if you could get the SM7B sound for $13. Anyone else reading the have suggestions for other cheap SM57 clones?
Behringer just released the SL 75C. Check it out! i'm ordering one now. It's like $20, and according to youtube, it's pretty dead on
I own a couple of the Behringer XM8500, which sounds surprisingly good, and costs around $20 - I’d love to see how close that could get to the sm7b, too! I produce for a singer/songwriter who just ordered the 7b, so I will definitely try and compare the two on the exact same take. Tempted to just do what you did, but it seems like alot of work 😅 but the results might be useful to others, since this mic is getting increasingly popular, so I’d love to see your vid on it.
I think the problem with this video is that your voice is uniquely suited for both these mics as it's very bassy and deep. As well, you are using them in the same angle each time, so it is possible the pattern of collection they provide is also different, which would make real-world use different as well (and therefore, sound very different).
I could hear the difference, but its pretty close. One thing that helps is using the A81 wind screen on the SM57. It gives you a little more bass sound. I just did a video showing it.
Actually, for me it was possible to identfiy the mics, listening to the blinded sound samples with a BOSE speaker connected. The SM7B sounds more "full but compressed" in the low end. However, the music samples in the end sounded identical to me.
The only time I could hear a noticeable difference was in the full band mix at the end. The SM7B felt slightly bigger, fuller, warmer in the low mids/mids
man you saved mee, you're smart as hell bro
Yeah, I thought the plosives gave it away. The 7 seems 'plosive-proof'. Overlooking that, they sound about the same after EQ. I do wonder how they'd compare about a foot away from your mouth.
We hear lots of reports of complications in using the low sensitivity SM7B. And your reports here have noted the increased noise when you have to crank the gain up on many low cost interfaces.
Overall, very enlightening. I haven't read much about "modeling mics." I'd love to learn more about that. Regards,
Amazing! Awesome video. Thank you.
Great Video! You really know this stuff! :) Love that you dig into and debunk "industry standards" (myths..?). Thanks Julian!
The tone is very similar after EQ, but the 57 is more sensitive to plosives, and the even with the pop filter you could hear them. Maybe with a bigger chunk of foam on it, they would sound almost identical.
Mic A had more low/low mids present, Mic B still retained more present highs and the transients stick a little more.
I legitimately heard a difference and guessed correctly, but only because B was slightly brighter. B also seemed to have more plosives. 1 or 2 EQ moves on either and they would be just about indistinguishable. Either way, the differences weren’t really enough to justify $200 more if you have plenty of EQs
It’s just a hunch, because they sounded so close, but the plosives on mic B made me think it it was a low end boosted 57... which it was. But to be honest, it was still just a guess. Great work!
Very interesting and useful work.
Great video! You have a subscriber for life.
The A81WS windscreen does the same trick without requiring any EQ
I guess the A81WS will get the SM57 to sound more like an SM7B as it attenuates high frequencies. But a big foam cover on the mic will usually attenate all high frequencies and the main difference between the SM7B and the SM57 is around 7kHz and 12kHz. I think that using an A81WS is a valid method, but EQing the SM57 can get it even closer to the SM7B.
I agree with Julian. The A81WS makes the mic sound muffled. Even after you take out the inner black mesh, the sound is not as "clear". For my dark voice, the default freq. response of the SM57 is ideal. I only have to reduce the 4.5-5.2K frequency (the area where I get those harsh T and S sounds) and rest is great!
The windscreen is great for podcast use but not for voiceovers imo.
I could tell B was the 57, but I have been recording a 57 for years and years and there is a top end thing that I feel is very distinct.
I was able to get a fairly similar result with the Pyle Pdmic78, which is a great budget option!!
I use an SM58 and I thank you for this.
Really nice vid! Thanks for going to the effort.
You got them sound reallllly close. Sheesh.
I know this is an old video but I'll still try at asking a question to you Julian or to anyone that might know: Is there any way to set a microphone eq system wide? So I can use the eq on Discord, Teams, Ableton etc.
Fantastic find. 👏👏👏👏
Julian, thanks for the great insight…as always! Would it be possible to plot and match the SM7B’s onboard Low Cut and Presence Boost switches as well? If not, no worries, but it would be interesting to see what those are doing to the frequency response curve! Thanks 😊
Hi :), can someone help me out and tell me how to set those settings on the GoXLR EQ please? Thanks
I didn't have to watch the video past the two minute mark; I couldn't distinguish a difference between the SM57 and the SM7B without modification. KEKW
The Eq is like the make up! Can "fix" the appearance but it still be the same. In these case, the presence of the SM57 is something vital in the mic and if you cut it with an EQ or filter, loose an important part.
This is great. Thanks.
SM57 is just harsher on my one functioning iPhone speaker.
Lost In Translation same here, do all iPhones only have one functioning speaker? 🤷♂️📱🔊
Every iPhone I’ve ever had (which is 4) has only ever worked on one of the speakers, so...
Brilliant, man! Thank you!
Hey its a pretty cool vid. But u make it look so easy, like just copying and paste these values, so I bought it. And now I'm standing alone putting these values anywhere but don't know how as many in the comments here and there are no answers. Can u pls make a vid how to bring these values to the main apps like discord, obs, fruity loops, Cubase and voicemeter? All in 1 vid to bring the information to beginners.. Pls. That would be so helpful to many
Thx for saying it's easy copy and pasting.. Not even a single app has a place to just paste them. Now I'm sitting here all day and feel dumber than before.. U should have told its for professionals. U ruined my chose.. I'd rather had payed 200 more and have no stress.. U don't know how much this fucks me up right now
thank you!
There's a slight high and low frequency between both mics, but that's due to me being an audiophile. The microphones show great similar frequencies and actually almost completely unnoticeable. But my best guess Mic A Is the SM7B and Mic B Is the SM57
An audio file? Are you a wav file?
there isn't reason to have this resolution to calibrate two mic.
you could put a smooth of about 1/3 or 1/6 octave to do a simpler and better work, in my opinion ;)
However great job :)
wow ! Thank you for this !
I did think that the second was the EQed SM57. It seemed a tiny bit brighter tbh. But probably it was dumb luck.
I use an SM57 with the huge A81WS windstock. Same as they use in the white house. The filter costed me $12 tho. New (IF you can find them) go for $69. At that price, you'd be better off with another microphone altogether. Sounds pretty good tho.
I heard the difference on the plosives. sm57 with the windshield is not good at plosives rejection
Richtig gut. Danke ✌🏼
Any thoughts on how to change the eq for an SM58? Looks like a bunch of people asked in here but didn’t see an answer (UA-cam doesn’t have a search in comments...)
Awesome video! Thank you!
i guessed SM7b was A. i was right. i think what gave it away was the plosives you were talking about, before you mentioned it, it was a dead give away. great comparison tho, i got lucky, i got my SM7B used in perfect condition for $150. count me lucky.
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SM57 seems to pick up a little more off-axis bleed. SM7B sounds "dryer" to me
i would say Mic A sounded more boomy and artificially boosted in the lows, thus being the 57. But I wouldn't wonder if I'm wrong
This might be a silly question but I'm just starting out. Do you apply these EQ filters before you record the audio with the SM57 or would this be part of the post-processing? Assuming that you would still need to process the audio when recording from the Shure SM7B, does this mean you're basically doing two steps instead of one(Using EQ filters for the SM57 while recording, then applying post-processing procedures to that recording). As supposed to the SM7B where you wouldn't have to apply those EQ filters and instead go straight to the post-processing procedure. I'm not sure if my question was clear, but thanks anyways.
I know this was a couple of years ago, but it would be post, but you would put it first in the effects chain.
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Hi I'm very new to audio and mics. What kind of EQ are you using to achieve this conversion? Would Voicemeeter work?
Is this what is happening in mic modeling software like the Townsend sphere?
Would you be able to do an eq video on the podmic? I know it can't sound like an sm7b but it would be nice to have a nice richer low end, only videos I can find are boosting the bass way too much, would be nice to have a video with more nuance such as this.
Hi, I want to record my written poetry professionally. Suggest me a good audio interface and microphone. But my room is not sound proof. The sound from outside comes inside our room. If I use Audio Technica 2035 mic and Shuru SM 58, then what will be the difference between the two? And which audio interface would be better for ShureSM 58. In which there is no noise and the quality is also good at the time of recording.
I am really curious what EQ'ing you could do with the SM57 and its massively huge A81WS pop filter, to remove those plosives (as used on the president of the USA's mic).
Eye i got it right! The bass sounded a little bit different that gave it away
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Thanks nice review appreciated.
I believe, depending on the mic, we should focus on emulations so people shouldn’t necessarily have to spend so much money on microphones even though some will anyway and I actually already have been doing a similar technique like this for awhile now.
I find the difference because sm7b comes with better integrated pop filter. But I hear the same voice from the start to the end of the video.
Bro whats the interface you using? Im thinking about focusrite clarett 2pre for myself, what do u think about it?
A 7B
B 57
I have all my SM58’s sounding just like SM7B’s… thought I was the only one that knew they could easily sound the same but nope seems I’m late to the game
This worked great on my 57. How could I go about figuring out how to match the frequency response of a Podmic to the 7b?
This video is like a spaceship builders explaining how to build a rocket to a regular guy. I rather just buy the sm7b and a tascam recorder and get to work. To make the sms7 you need the mic, the equilizer box and the recorder. On studio you need the sm57, eq box or pc with a plug in interface and a program to record, either way you spend alot a cash, I would just go sm57 $ 400 and the tascam x6 $300 memory card $49 and xlr cable for a grand total of $950 bucks.
Bravo!
Great video. Question, for anyone. Can I use these same settings for an SM58? It’s basically the same mic as the 57. No?
what would those settings be on a rode caster pro 2??
thank you
What if you use a pop filter instead of the shure A2WS wind foam? would that be better for plosives? would your eq settings still work? Do you have any recommendations for a Pop screen????
Hi, nice video..how you set up your audio to your video camera..using that shure sm7.thnaks.
One more downside (though I would argue that this doesn't really matter that much) is the phase coloration. It usually didn't matter to most people, unless you go really crazy with your vocal.
Yes, the EQ filter will change the phase response of the mic. I doubt, that this will be audible in practice.
@@JulianKrause, it was quite audible, when you compare the whole track!
The phase response of the mic is affecting the dynamics, clarity and transparency the most. Human voice doesn't have the same amount of overtones like some instruments like strings, for example. But if you use a good passive EQ, the timbre degradation may be less audible
test on A81WS plis.
How to calculate the difference curve between two microphones in REW ? Thanks
One solution to dealing with plosives on the sm57: Before attaching the Shure pop filter on the sm57, cut up an old, cheap standard mic windscreen into a couple of small circles about the size of the end of the Shure pop filter. Stuff those circular pieces into the end of the sm57 pop filter and then attach it. This will slightly lower the high frequencies (making it sound more like the sm7b, and it will make the sm57 much more resistant to plosives. It's a cheap, simple hack, but it works pretty well.
This is a good solution if you want it to sound like the SM7B, personally though I like the brighter output.
I agree with Symbra_Lysm. Though the SM7 has that boomy "radio" low-end, the presence of the 57 is nice and help a lot with speech intelligibility.
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You could also go with a different wind screen, such as the Shure A81WS, instead of the Shure A2WS shown in this video. It's much bigger, ensuring a wider distance between your mouth and the grille at all times, as well as reducing more plosives due to being much thicker.
@@yeahyeah3206 actually when I entered Shure A81WS in Google it showed me Matt Rygelski video with SM57 with it vs SM7B. It's also a good solution.
I can't give a thumbs up high enough for this video. No stupid music, no lame comedy, just pure science and a very detailed, yet easy to understand explanation.
Thanks, much appreciated!
good looking as well