Pilatus PC-12 Fog Takeoff (GoPro Pilot's view, NO MUSIC)
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- Опубліковано 11 вер 2024
- Takeofff is at 2:10 (Flaps 30, short field takeoff technique)
Landing is at 6:00 (Short-field landing technique, minus the heavy braking)
Another chronicle of a flight from DKX to UZA to deliver a Pilatus PC-12 to the maintenance facility at Skytech for its annual inspection. Gorgeous foggy day in Knoxville.
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Filmed with a GoPro HD Hero and a Panasonic HDC-TM700.
First of all I would like to Thank you for not putting music and secondly nice video and thirdly nice flying.
Thanks!
Ryan Roth how much horsepower does it have?
ezio kenway The engine is capable of 1600hp, but is flat rated to 1200hp.
Thank God, NO MUSIC. great vid. keep em coming.
Thanks for not ruining this video with music!
The video I have been looking for, short field no music....PERFECT!!!!
...And you say there's no music???..wow, if that is not music, well, what is it then? ..I wish I could fly next you one day... Poetic is the word. Thanks for sharing.
Wow, that Takeoff, it was so gorgeous. This video is inspiring, reminds me of how I really want to be a pilot.
Beautiful video - and a special thanks for no music.
FAN-TASTIC VIDEO! Loved it! Especially since you used the natural beautiful music of that awesome airplane!
I keep coming back to this video for the PT6 startup sound and the foggy takeoff (but mostly the startup sound). The Pilatus PC-12 is my current attainable "dream plane", I hope to fly one some day.
I like the footage, especially from the go pro mounted on the head because it shows what the pilot is actually seeing 👍👍❤️❤️
30 Degrees of flaps does increase drag, but it also allows for a steeper angle of climb off the runway. This let me climb up above the fog before I even reached the other end of the runway.
Increasing flaps deflection, as it increases drag as you say, decrease climb angle
(approximate formula climb gradient = thrust/(weight) - 1/lift to drag ratio).
It allows shorter take-off since it reduces stall speeds at allows for lower take-off speeds (VR/V1/V2)... but if you don't care about field length and need to improve obstacle clearance, decrease flap setting.
chtiguillaume Increasing flap deflection also increases lift for a given airspeed, so L/D ratio at, say, 80 kts might actually be better at 30 degrees than 15 degrees flaps. Unfortunately I don't have access to such a chart for the PC12.
However, consider this, from the PC12/45 POH performance pages. Using the same example data provided in the charts (6000ft Pressure altitude, 18C OAT, 7716lb weight, 8kt headwind component, 1% uphill component), the charts give the following takeoff numbers:
15 degree flap ground roll: 1450 feet
15 degree flap total distance (over obstacle): 2300 feet
30 degree flap ground roll: 1350 feet
30 degree flap total distance (over obstacle): 2050 feet
The 30 degree flap ground roll is only 100 feet shorter (probably since rotation speed is nearly the same, 73KT @ flaps 30 versus 79KT @ flaps 15), however total distance over obstacle is 250 feet less with flaps 30. This suggests that, if the liftoff point were the same spot on the runway, 30 degrees of flaps will still get you over the obstacle in 150 fewer feet... suggesting a steeper angle of climb.
The best ACHIEVABLE angle of climb is probably better at flaps 15 over flaps 30, however it would likely require more airspeed, and accelerating to that higher airspeed takes more time (and distance) which you may not have available to clear an obstacle off the and of the runway.
chtiguillaume Actually, this is the same reason that you would not want to immediately/fully retract flaps during a low-speed go-around. When airspeed is low (backside of the power curve, i.e. below L/Dmax), more flaps will usually give you a better angle of climb. It's not until you accelerate to a higher airspeed that you will be able to retract flaps and achieve a better angle of climb.
+Ryan Roth Hey I'd be willing to bite the bullet on this one and back up chtiguillaume. I'm currently a cpl student doing the performance exams and this question came up several times.
Ryan you are correct in saying that as you increase the flap setting, the TODR would decrease, due to the increased lift coefficient of the wing. However as you increase flap the drag will increase by a larger value than the lift. This means you will need more thrust to to negate the effect of increased drag.
Now we know that for an aircraft to climb we need an excess of thrust. However with the increased drag due flaps the amount of excess thrust we have on takeoff is reduced, and hence so is the climb performance. This means to that the climb angle will be reduced as compared to a an aircraft taking off with no flap.
So to recap, increasing the flaps will decrease the TODR and reduce the climb angle as compared to an aircraft taking off with no flaps.
Cheers.
I agree with you on most points, but the other factor to consider is that the best rate of climb SPEED for a reduced flap setting is usually higher, meaning you need to accelerate in order to gain the benefit of the increased angle of climb provided by that reduced flap setting. Acceleration takes time and distance.
In other words, there's a crossover point, in terms of distance from the start of a takeoff roll, where initially flaps extended will get you higher, but after that crossover point, retracted flaps will get you higher. Typically, we use a 50 foot obstacle as a point of reference, and in most cases a certain extended flap position will get you to 50 feet in less distance than retracted flaps.
That is such a cool shot climbing out through/over the fog.
Outstanding again. Its been too long since the last time you took us flying in the Pilatus. You have alot of fans out here, please keep posting.
See this every time I land in Downtown Island with my instructor. What a beauty.
A few years ago I took off from Aurora IL (KARR) @ 400' and 1/8 mile. The IFR Skyhawk retract had no A/P. I merely had a LOC-G/S and a hand held GPS. The departure dude was like "you know you'll be in this until Kirksville (MO)?" I said "yeah man, I got this". We both laughed when he said (in Billy Bob Thornton's voice from Slingblade) "Awright ten".
Thumbs up for no music!
I must agree with Dakfab, that is the best music I could have ever heard for this video. Well done sir.
Rotate at 72KTS with Flaps 30. Speed over the numbers is around 76-80 kts but varies with weight. There is an AOA indicator that becomes priority during landing for maintaining proper speed.
I liked that there wasn't some crappy music. Great post of pilot view. I want it
Fantastic video, thank you. The PC12 is my dream aeroplane…. I hope to fly it one day.
Thanks for the comment! The times are just links to skip ahead in the video to the takeoff or landing, for anyone who doesn't want to watch all 8 minutes. It's about a 40 minute flight. DKX is indeed on an island so wildlife (other than birds) would be extremely rare, the only land access is via a narrow 2-lane bridge.
turning off the runway just a little more than a 1000 feet without heavy braking is pretty impressive
I agree with no music. The cabin/cockpit sound is awesome. But, for me (I know not everyone feels the same way) I can't stand head cams. I am a friggin pilot myself, and even with that, too much head cam can actually start a little motion sickness for me just watching. This wasn't actually that bad. But I'd rather see something over the shoulder from a steady mount. Repoint it or take it out and pan around a bit during cruise. I am just offering that I prefer a steady camera.
But I am complaining about a video that's four years old?
With that out of the way. Thumbs up on the flight. Good job.
If I ever get my atpl Back to me I would be so stoked to drive the PC-12 for a crust esp for the the RFDS
Awesome...magical when you pop through fog. I think I had a moment.
Oh thank you lord! I've been waiting for this for ages, and I love it! :DD Keep it up!
Great video! Love the music, though, as well as the camera placement. Also that low approach was excellent. The first time I saw one of these airplanes year ago I was shocked the the size of this thing. It's a huge single! Thanks for sharing.
Thanks for the comments! Yes most people (including myself when I first saw it) are surprised how large it is, as well as the size and comfort of the cabin inside.
Wow! Talk about professional skills; absolutely loved it! Thanks for the wonderful video!
nice flying and nice plane.
Excellent video ..... My dream aircraft ... Pilatus Pc-12 NG ..... Someday i ll own one ......
One of my favorite Aircraft PC-12 well done.
It's a fine single-pilot aircraft, cockpit layout is ideal for it.
Pretty good fog on takeoff, loved when you broke out over the tops!
What a view!
You had the mains down before the numbers! Incredible landing man!
Thanks!
Ryan Roth yeah man! I’m a student pilot right now and I’m in love with the PC-12. Hope to fly in one soon!
PC12 is a fantastic aircraft. Reliabilty, performance, economy, comfort, truly a gem. It flies with a lot of the best characteristics of bigger and smaller planes. I think it's the flaps that really set it apart as a pilot, converting it from a 250kt cruiser into a 67kt stall speed short field machine.
Awesome landing!
Wow, very nice. This reminds me flying the PC 12 in my Flight Simulator FSX with EZDOK Camera. Pretty forward to fly isn't she!
What an aircraft. Wish I had the BUCKS!!!! Thanks for posting
this is great! i fly a cessna 172 but i love to watch engine starts. great movie, well done!
Con estos vídeos ya estoy aprendiendo a pilotear este PC12.
awesome video! Thankyou
That "ding" right before you touch down, I guess it was the AIR/GRND caws for the prop low pitch... 6:20
Very good video, shows exactly what it's like taking off with zero visibility. I hate doing this at rural airports, never know when that stray cow might be walking across the runway. Are you sure your takeoff and landing times are correct? KDKX (Knoxville Island Airport) to KUZA (Bryant Field - SC) at FL190 should not take 4 hours of flight time in a PC-12, or did I miss something. Anyway nice go pro vid.
Wow, the visibility at take-off is next to none... would a visual landing even be possible in conditions like that?
is it safe tho to taxi over the ropes without them getting caught in the prop?
Beautiful landing.
I think I see the Pilatus overhead either taking off or preparing to land, from the ground about 5 miles from the Oakland Airport, CA. What other airplanes would look like this from the ground looking up and seeing them at 1,500-2,000 feet?
Dear Ryan Roth, Congratulations on the flight, I'm passionate Pilatus, my dream is to fly one, this is my dream, leaving an airport and how you can enjoy a flight wonderful as yours, we will keep in touch and maybe one day you teach me to fly a Pilatus ... I am Brazilian and biggest dream and change in Brazil ....
A big hug and that God will always enlighten ...
sounds like you got R2D2 as your copilot hahah! sweet landing, looks like you might have done it once or twice before :)
Very nicely done.
doesnt sound very loud. sounds strong and stable.
You are absolutely awesome and thank you so much for sharing this.
Very very nice video, thanks a lot for sharing.
What sort of speeds did you have at rotation and on short final?
You should use fore flight for block times, it has a great spot for it on the scratch pad. I traded e kneeboardi for the ipad works awesome.
Love the smooth landing
Thanks, the cross-fade is at 6:53.
Very nicely done....
Amazing!. Great ride Mr. Roth
Great video and beautiful aircraft!
My alternate airport for the departure was TYS, which is about 8 miles away and had clear weather.
Really good video, Thank you. what is the max speed in wind calm over 10k and 9 pax? always wonder ;)
Please make more :O I love these video's!
Seems pretty smooth to land, very stable on approach. How is it flying single-pilot?
Well, times are right refered to the minutes of the video for every maneuver.
KDKX to KUZA should take around 45 minutes....
Fantastic video to Ryan, by the way.
that landing was butter
No landing would have been possible, visual or instrument. TYS is 5 miles away though and had clear weather in case there were any issues.
0:13 i was expecting a large dinosaur to come out of the fog and attack the airplane like jurassic park III
What was the vis? Insane video 🤟🏻
Wow PC12 can land in my backyard... unbelievably short landing distance
Perfect landing, great job!
Looks like a nice VFR day to me...
Is it only me or you can hear the turbine's compressor blades after the engine spools up?
I know its not the prop.
+Jack Stormer Oh yes, you can definitely hear the turbine when the engine is running. Just like a jet engine.
Great video, thanks for posting.
Great sound
if you had to return to the field for mechanical, how could you land in that fog ( minimums ) ?
tutchngoes you don't lol just need an alternate
I wouldn't return to this airport, I had a takeoff alternate with clear weather about 10 miles away (KTYS)
Nice flight commander!
thank you for sharing this, it is amazing
Excellent landing! Love it! How many hours do you have in that thing? I'd love to fly one.
Indeed, for any aircraft, let alone one landing at 8500lbs. It's a remarkable plane.
Nice video, but got to ask, what is your plan if something should go wrong? Thanks, Joe
No music? I heard music the whole time from start up to shut down:)
Thanks for sharing!
Great plane. I'm drooling away here... ;-)
Beautiful video - thanks for sharing it ;)
Excellent video. Thank you!
good video ....
Thanks for posting!
Nice, PC12 is the best
How would you abort takeoff, if needed?
Pulling back throttle and slamming the brakes??
Well, i made an excellent flight! (jaja. it seems like)
Seriously: your video is awesome, congratulations!
Do you have one with pc 12 ng? greetings
This video skips the taxi time to the ramp at the opposite end of the field. I always do the 2 minutes. I just double-checked it by viewing my raw footage of the flight and it's there.
Very nice video and solo flight. Why the 12 negatives? Some people just can't enjoy anything without posting a thumbs down!
800m RVR for single pilot op? Or is that just in Europe?
I know for Part 97 (which you could consider some single pilot / not for hire ops to fall under)- we have no take off minimums in the US. It is up to you to decide if it is safe. For commercial operations, or Parts 121, 125, 129, 135, it is either specific to the runway you are using (published on the charts) or if none are listed, on how many engines you have. 2 engines or less, t/o minimum is 1 statute mile vis or about 1600 meters. More than 2 engines, it drops to about 800 meters.
Dyl Connaway Do you mean Part 91? Part 97 wouldn't make much sense for what you are talking about.
I didn't notice the 800m RVR but we used 200m 180m and 0m for to at LGW. Three segment to.
U.S. FAR 91 operations do not have a visibility minimum for takeoff. Zero/Zero is allowed. Many people question this fact. The rationale the FAA uses is that private operators are doing their own thing, for themselves, in their own aircraft, and therefore should be allowed maximum flexibility as "public safety" is not involved. FAR 135 operations assume that individuals charter aircraft, and that more restrictions should apply to safeguard the chartering public. FAR 121 (Airline) operations involved individuals buying tickets for scheduled service from one point to another, and are in position to have absolutely no knowledge of or control over the flight operation, therefore 121 regulations and requirements are the strictest of all. This seems counter-intuitive to the layman, but that's the basis of it all.
Hi! The head mounted camera is the GoPro? Could you provide me the video setting used? Resolution and fps? Thanks
Do you fly corporate or what kind of flights do you do in the PC12?
hey how do you conect your gopro with the radio?? please!!
What was your take-off minima?
That was awesome
WOW that is graet love the fog
You're correct sir, thanks!