Talking about Jesus with a Sufi Mystic-- with Neil Douglas-Klotz
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- Опубліковано 6 тра 2012
- Neil Douglas-Klotz is a teacher and author, as well as a practicing Sufi Mystic. Through his work "Prayers of the Cosmos" and "The Hidden Gospel" he has helped many to revive their faith by discovering the nuance of the aramaic language which Jesus spoke.
Sufi mystic , is love , peace , and devotion to God . Jesus is , love , peace , and devotions to humanity , because he was God himself livings among us +++
great question DaLexicon. From what I've read, he builds on the existing aramaic translation, but then takes the aramaic words with their double and triple layered meanings/nuance. Basic example: the word for Spirit in Aramaic also means breath. The word for sin also means mistakes/ unripe fruit and misgivings. So he just elaborates in a poetic and sufi kind of way.
We Are All One. Jesus brought people into his awareness and all was in perfect health, had plenty, etc.
Love the way he describes the Silk Road weaving our multifaceted history of religious expression.
I got some great insight while watching this! Love it! John 13:3-4
And Jesus greeted people the Jewish way, "Shalom aleichem", same as when Muslims say "Salaam Alaikum"--as in Peace with You.
The beatitudes, as Jesus stated them in the Bible, were considered a promise of hope for the people of the time. Term - "Beati" translates to "happy," "rich,or blessed. "
As Jesus stood and delivered the Sermon on the Mount. Jesus spoke to the poor and disenfranchised who hungered for a message of release and healing from their oppression. His message was focus on the "Inner truth" that would release their minds and hearts.
I would like cheerfulness
to preside over all.
I would like Jesus to be present. 🙏🤗
Thank you for this beautiful interview with Neil Klotz ❤
We all wake up together realizing the truth is true and nothing else is true. We are a thought in the Mind of God. We are still as God created us. We can relax now. We remain an extension of Love for eternity. In quiet we return to where we never left 😌
Mathew Chap. 7 verse 7
This is the english retranslation from
the original Aramaic-- without
condensing
" "All things that you ask straightly,
that which you desire from within you
will be given.
Ask without hidden motive and
be surrounded by your answer.
Be enveloped by what you desire"
Isn't the original Greek?
@@engineeredtruths8935 it seems as if the Peshitta is an Aramaic version of the Greek New Testament, but, all of the gospels would've been Aramaic in-person and later translated on-paper, there were likely also much in the way of oral tradition prior to it being on-paper...all I'm saying is converting the Greek NT back into the Aramaic of the Peshitta would've likely revealed some of the more idiomatic & entendreic aspects of Jesus's words.
Beautiful post and great comments. Grist for the mill! Thank you all.
Sure fulls in some blanks in for me...I will research further...and pray with my full heart and with all kind of prayer and supplications...Amen, Ameyn; Ameen...
I LOVE YOU
Let There Be Peace - As we love the God of our own understanding-Let There Be Peace ✨💖✨Let there be Peace...
Really good interview and conversation. Can't say I agree with most of the content but it was really engaging and interesting
Jesus healed 1000s at the same times whole multitudes of people at the same time
In life the breath is the companion of the soul. In arabic nafas is used for when God breath the soul into Adam. The word nafs is also used for the self. خلي بالك من نفسك ghali balik min nafsik means take care of yourself. The interesting point linguistically is that ghali coming from the root "thl" i think considdering 3 letter roots meaning give up. So how to take care of yourself is to let go of yourself (the ego) ofcourse all prophets are perfect example of this. As i believe because of their perfect pure submission to God these massive devine powers from the kingdom of heaven could come down. When you sincerely submit to God the Almighty Creator of all there is, the soul feels a devine love and power it almost can not hold.
Salaam. The Arabic words you wrote, are they from the Quran? Could you please cite the source. I loved your post. Thanks
Pray without ceasing
Royz,
I have read that Dr Neil Douglas-Koltz'
source of translation of Lord's Prayer
or the Gospel is from the
Syriac Aramaic manuscript of the Gospel.
Also known as the Peshitta Version
that was prepared by the Rev. G.H. Gwilliam
and issued by the Claredon Press in 1901.
amazing
Listen to your own deep soul and to any positive message within or without, admire beautiful nature, take time to do something nice without reward, offer thanks for it all to the unknown inner self. Preach love to all. Mostly the mind is filled with useless thoughts from the separated ego. Ask your deep self for forgiveness for ugly thoughts, sights or deeds. Happy silence is the perfection of mental experience. Don't worry about belonging to this or that group or religion, they are all man made and all have agendas - mostly a distraction. Life here is not long, there is not much time to find your way back to your true inner home, don't waste time on unnecessary arguments and debates about who is right or wrong - it won't help you. Don't listen to anger, divisions or defensiveness from anyone - these are dead giveaways for lack of development. We must be mentally, emotionally and spiritually mature, to finally leave this world, or we will recreate our bodies until there is no unfinished business here.
We call it blinded by too much knowledge, confused and deceived by him own brain, and just can't accept the simple truth the there is someone we call" God "and he has all the power to heal and give life and bless and do miracles. And those miracles still happen guess what without exersice and fail and trail, just simply by praying in Jesus name. He was Jesus who did all this at that time with all authority and he still does.
Not knowledge, information *
How can I find (and learn) how to actually speak in the Aramaic language for at least, the prayer?
everyone that has lived,experiences life through the senses,so the truth that Jesus had is with you right now in this moment
Wonderful, number 333 on the likes
True
Pourriez-vous traduire votre dialogue en français ...? Merci.
All of the multitudes was not doing breath to breath with 1000s and the all got healed
It would have been really difficult but for argument`s sake let`s say it could be done...hundreds or thousands breathing in sync...but what about the dead? We all know that a dead body cannot breath, especially if the death occurred 3 or 4 days prior.
There where Witnesses that saw him raise the dead also?? Did you ever see any one person with your own two eyes raise the dead with breathing. Only the ones that believe that he was the Spirit of the Most High YAH was able to do this phenomenal miracle. HE WAS THE RUACH OF YAH! I like how you use his prayer to find peace and go to a higher lever but you will not have any power to raise the dead. Only his sheep know his voice only his flock. Great Lesson but sometimes we know Much yet know nothing at all. LOST IN TRANSLATION BUT FINDING OUR WAY BACK SO WE WILL DO GREATER THINGS OF HE WHO IS IN ME! HE was more than a prophet. He was the Spirit of Yah in Man! His people are rising up and we will raise the dead without any medical help because we believe and know that he was God! ARIAMIAC THE LANGUAGE OF MY LORD THANK YOU FOR THE TEACHING AND PEACE BE ON TO ALL IN MY SAVIORS NAME! IT IS WRITTEN
:)
I checked the aramaic Bible online
particularly the Peshitta.--with
translations in English.
Where did Dr. Neil Douglas-Koltz
get that translation.
Because the english translation from
Peshitta did not match..
I even look at word for word translation
online--not condensed.
Is this Dr. Douglas-Koltz OWN translation?
Jesus is a sufi A sufi means who are choosing the path of Abel to be a shepherd with woolen cloth unlike Cain A sufi means who love God more than material world, who love akhira(afterlife) more than dunya(this world) A sufi is who preform ihsan, which is perfect his soul and action in worship of Allah/God
Jesus is the way the truth and the life. Put god first and pray to Jesus. John 3.16
Jesus is the only way
Understand your own feeling about this and why you have this feeling.
Read THE WHOLE original Bible
@@theodysseyholistichealth I pray you find salvation through lord and savior Jesus Christ
How did Eashoa Rise from the Dead ??? There was witnesses that saw him??? It’s that part of the Bible not believed ??? How did he raise and walk again?????? He was seen after the tomb burial yes or no????
He was never dead in fact he only appeared dead to them through hibernation cause mystics can do that and then his people after 3 days of hibernation his people opened grave and escaped he was waiting there to appear like he was ressurected or catholic church falsified his waking completely
@@THEVISIONOFAITH I've considered this but then what do you make of Mark 9:32 ? Or many other gospel examples of him predicting his death. "For He taught His disciples and said to them, "The Son of Man is being betrayed into the hands of men, and they will kill Him. And after He is killed, He will rise the third day."
for your claim to hold water, wouldn't you need to either reject that he said this or that he was lying about it? If you believe in the authenticity of the gospels, which it sounds like you do to some degree if you think he was at crucified and buried, then I have a hard time seeing how that stance holds. Curious to hear your thoughts!
@@brianwalsh3586 You re right i was lost back then and i learned things from hindus which are pagans and are spreading dissinformation to damage and weaken our faith in Lord
I see a lot of Colossians 2:8 in this....what happened to the simplicity in Christ?
Isn't chanting what Jesus said the gentiles do expecting to be heard?
"Cause there was no organized Judaism at the time of Jesus" his statement is absolutely ridiculous of course there was: the Temple had been standing for hundreds of years and the Priesthood for over a thousand.
Yochanan TrueBiblicalChristianblog it was Israel that existed. Pharasee and saducee were not Judaism.... actually didn't Paul call himself a Jew? I think so.... Maybe your right but it surely was different
Is he Muslim? I thought sufis were Muslim mystics. But very interesting teachings
All Sufis are Muslims. Do not believe Western distorters and liars.
xtremeownage2 Why do you think he is a false Muslim? He didn't say anything being about a Christian or had New Age belief. He just said he practiced Sufism.
"None comes to the Father except through me."
I so don’t agree. Colonization created this idealism for control.
Were is the mystic?
And it worked 100 percent of the time. I don't think this is true. Jesus healed all
so if you write books your apparently a mystic
Aramaic Arabic
Not really, chanting and using the Aramaic language is never a must in Christianity. Any language is acceptable. In fact, this is why the Holly Spirit gave the disciples the gift of speaking foreign languages so they can evangelize all the nations in their own languages. We do not focus on Jesus as an icon but actually on his unique teachings that are superior to any other teachings in any other religion. It is sufi (sect of islam) that insist on everybody to use the Arabic language as a way to communicate with their Allah. Apparently their Allah cannot understand any other language but Arabic. Almost all of Westerners who convert to islam do not know much abt. islam and they start imagining it as a peaceful religion as they have been taught by the daawa to islam members. In fact, Sufi islam is hated by main stream islam/salafists/wahabists islam and their members are discriminated/tortured/assassinated like they did in the Sina mosque in Egypt.
How can you be so sure that The Holy Spirit allowed the disciples in many tongues to teach us all that any language is ok?
@@justinseaman6747 Good question, how can you learn the principles/doctrines of a new religion, be convinced of the truth that it is bringing to you when you are talking to someone who doesn't understand you and you don't understand what he's talking about?Therefore, the huge success that they had in convincing all the new Christians to quit their pagan beliefs/religions that they have learned over the ages and become Christians is my proof. They were very few instances where our Holly Bible mentioned the presence of interpreters who, obviously, were expensive.The disciples went as far as Russia, Armenia, India, France, Spain, North Africa (of course with different names) to evangelize Christianity with almost immediate great success (in spite of the persecutions that they had to face on almost daily basis)
Jesus in sufism is not a deity
This individual might know his subject, but he doesn’t know Jesus. He should have just admitted in the beginning and he wouldn’t end up looking so foolish.
This guy speaks with an american accent, he is a Muslim that is what Sufis are, he speaks of doing prayer repetitions but Jesus says not to do reputations when praying , where is his mystical powers demonstrated ? He like many has some view but he is suspect .
The man in the video is a con man. He wants to claim Islamic identity as Western, when it is not. Tasawwuf (wrongly called "Sufism" in the West) is 100% Islamic and has nothing to do with Christians, Jews or other religions.
not all Muslims speak with an "Arabic" accent.
It's not praying, Its zikr which means remembrance
Zikrullah means remembrance of God, in Hebrew is zakariyah, Its the name of a prophet also
Mystic did not start with Muslims they have been around for thousands of years in every culture Sufism is nothing unique is just a more recent merging of the ancient spiritual practise with a recent religion called Islam could be because of its popularity at the time? after all how much of a choice did people have at the time? Islam did have a "convert or die campaign" historically and at times in the present
. India, Africa, Egypt, Tibet, Native American, all have their mystics thousands of years before there was even an Islam Religion. If the Sufis and Islam is so great why isn't that reflected in the practice of their believers where is the unity or love or peace you talk about? yes! its all talk none of you have any credibility from any religion if you practise intolerance of others by commiting the evil of killing harming others based on their belief system or personal lifestyles. Religion if all types are mostly hypocrites some of them thinking they are currying favor with God by promoting a brand through force and violence instead of love and compassion to humanity. You are all brainwashed conditioned fools who don't question the logic of what you believe. When you find Love and compassion in your hearts for others and the creator then I will listen to you other than that Fuck U .
I find Neil's approach at best romantic; at worst misguided and prideful.
To be a Sufi you have to be a Muslim. To be a Jesuit you have to be a Catholic. Do not claim our identity when you are not one of us. Unless you believe in "La Ilaha Il Allah, Muhammadur Rasool Allah" (SAW) you are not a Sufi, you are not one of us.
Who told you he is not?
xtremeownage2 This is a bit of a puzzling response from a Muslim. My understanding is that Islam is a Universal religion for all people ( indeed for all those who have existed and will ever exist as Mohammed , peace be upon him, is the First Principle. So, if someone, in their private niche of prayer ( their heart ) says " La ilah ha ilah la", are you telling me that Allah doesn't hear? Surely the outer clothing of a person's religion falls away at death ( whatever their professed beliefs)? I am not a Muslim and I do not profess to be a Sufi. I utter the Shahida in full sincerity before God and have no doubt that He hears my prayer. God knows who I am and I strive towards His vision. God knows what is best. 🙏🏼❤️
if you write the that bad maybe indeed he doesn't hear... it's "la ilah ill Allah" (no god but God). You wrote "no god ha god no". And it's shahaada, not shahida. For the rest you are partially correct because by saying that "there's no god but God" you profess yourself as a abrahamitic at best, but to be muslim you must add "Muhammad ar'rasul Allah"... BTW, I'm not a muslim and I really appreciate your attitude...
ghostdog7575 apologies for the spelling. I am interested in connection not division of Humanity.
Absolutely correct. I'm tired of mostly westerns who say they are Sufi (but not Muslim). Sufism is the inner dimension of Islam.
Shams is not real Jesus as rumi says in his poems. In bible many warnings about false christ
Sounds like a bunch of breath bs to me. Yeesh
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