Hey Silver Seeker . I was not Doubting your word on the UNOPENED mint Set. I know your an Honest Guy👍👍. IF the Dealers pay more for sealed ones, people might start licking envelopes.😂😂. Have a Blessed Day👍💕
@KELLYRAEcopperqueen I know and you're fine. Think about this tho... whens the last time you've seen one unopened that wasn't opened by slitting the top? I've been into coins for decades and I can't remember the last time myself. :)
SILVER SEEKER I know what your sayin👍. Just my opinion , but i have bought some at Auctions on here and I feel sometimes the envelopes that are open but are not cut on top, they sets get switched out for crappier looking ones. I dont buy anymore unless i can see it in person. Too many Dishonest younger folks on here selling. Gives the Good Guys like yourself a Hard Road at times. My Circle on here getting small.💕. I loved to Watch your Silver Search Streams, but i just can not keep up with the fast moving Chat to know whatd going on. Lol. Getting Old.👍💕
One of my local coin shops had a bunch of unopened 1958 proof sets for sale. I bought a couple of them for $40 each. I didn’t have any cameos in them but still fun to open. I still have one unopened too, I thought would be cool to hold onto.
I have a few sets from my grandfather, which had never been sealed. If not intentionally sealed, maybe they were stored under pressure and sealed with time.
I got a ‘64 set that I believe was previously opened but was sold as “sealed”. All the coins were ok except the cent in the plastic which was pierced. A spot was on the coin in just about the same place where the plastic seal’s hole is located. 😕 That was enough to avoid buying there again.
@scottbrennan7686 the dealer that buy specifically sealed sets is a "sucker"? Odd he definitely seems to have a table full of slabbed cameo and deep cameo proofs at every coin show I see him at...
@The QuickSilver 101 I understand that. Let me re-phrase!. What about the lines at top of Bell with the writing area. Do these lines have to be full as well.??? This is what i wondered?
Seeker---The mint DID NOT SEAL the sets before they left the mint. The sealing occurred due to storing in High humidity places, or in damp places after leaving the mint. The envelopes had the glue strips on them and that got damp during storage or other reasons.
It's literally incalculable how many of the old 90% silver coins got melted down as the silver price spiked in 1980. They made tons of the stuff, but a lot of it is now in bars instead of coins.
A cameo is when there is a distinct difference in relief between the field and the design. For example, the field will be very shiny and the design will have a frosted look.
I don't think all were sealed originally. Maybe the person who sold it to you, sealed it themselves, because it would increase its potential value. Beware.
I've heard that before but I've opened sealed mint boxes of special mint sets before and they were all sealed inside the box. Some have said that moisture caused the glue to get wet enough to seal them but they were sealed well like someone pressed them close. I also know there are dealers who walk show floors looking for sealed sets and buys them specifically to open and look for cameos. Dunno... you may be right I'm not 100% sure but not sure why a dealer would do that if they were all sealed by the public later. Or maybe in the 60s they didn't know to look for cameos? Another thing I think about is that at coin shows I've never seen open that's opened by the flap on the back... they're all cut at the top? Hmm... I'll have to do some research.
On a cameo, the background of the surface will be mirrorlike shiny finish, but the head will be different: dull, white, milky. It is an unmistakable contrast of two different finishes on the same metal. They also mint reverse cameos that are stunning.
Maybe I'm wrong but is that not just a mint set , different from a proof set in that none of them are cameos and they aren't struck any differently than regular coins they are just put in that plastic right after being minted. Proof sets come in the hard plastic and are struck differently I thought
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Hey Silver Seeker . I was not Doubting your word on the UNOPENED mint Set. I know your an Honest Guy👍👍. IF the Dealers pay more for sealed ones, people might start licking envelopes.😂😂. Have a Blessed Day👍💕
@KELLYRAEcopperqueen I know and you're fine. Think about this tho... whens the last time you've seen one unopened that wasn't opened by slitting the top? I've been into coins for decades and I can't remember the last time myself. :)
SILVER SEEKER I know what your sayin👍. Just my opinion , but i have bought some at Auctions on here and I feel sometimes the envelopes that are open but are not cut on top, they sets get switched out for crappier looking ones. I dont buy anymore unless i can see it in person. Too many Dishonest younger folks on here selling. Gives the Good Guys like yourself a Hard Road at times. My Circle on here getting small.💕. I loved to Watch your Silver Search Streams, but i just can not keep up with the fast moving Chat to know whatd going on. Lol. Getting Old.👍💕
Or locked. Lol. He bought them on ebay and it is a common ebay scam. Purchasers think they are getting a first look for deep cameos.
Licked**
Incredible! Who woulda thought someone could resist not opening that for that long!
I HAVE SO MANY OF THESE I SHOULD PROBABLY OPEN THEM
Great idea
The penny has a DDR variant, and the Franklin has a DDO variant - either would make the set more valuable than a cameo finish.
One of my local coin shops had a bunch of unopened 1958 proof sets for sale. I bought a couple of them for $40 each. I didn’t have any cameos in them but still fun to open. I still have one unopened too, I thought would be cool to hold onto.
Yea I would have bought one just to keep it unopened I think that's cooler then looking inside em
Did the envelopes come from the mint unsealed or sealed? I looked at all of my 1960-1964 proof sets and they are opened and glue fully intact.
They came unsealed. The "unopened" proof set envelope hype is just hype, and not even truthful.
I have a few sets from my grandfather, which had never been sealed. If not intentionally sealed, maybe they were stored under pressure and sealed with time.
I got a ‘64 set that I believe was previously opened but was sold as “sealed”.
All the coins were ok except the cent in the plastic which was pierced. A spot was on the coin in just about the same place where the plastic seal’s hole is located.
😕
That was enough to avoid buying there again.
I have a couple Unopened! ❤
Would have been funny if it was missing a coin with a note from a mint worker back then who bought a soda with it
Why would they use a proof coin to buy a soda
@@apapz3245 why not I used my moms hidden mercurys to buy comic books back in 1962 😂
I don't know how but i have been finding so many mis strikes in my town that I could probably buy an old banger with them
It was a Cameo until you opened it.😂 Ever here of Schrödinger's Cat?
Schrödinger's Cameo?
Original packaging does not add any value, nor does it take away any value when opened.
Nice But those Packets come from the Mint unsealed. Lol. Humudity can make the envelope seal😊
Perhaps but there are actually dealers that pay more for sealed ones doing exactly this... looking for cameos.
Humidity can, but more likely someone with a little glue hoping to find a sucker.
@scottbrennan7686 the dealer that buy specifically sealed sets is a "sucker"? Odd he definitely seems to have a table full of slabbed cameo and deep cameo proofs at every coin show I see him at...
@@SilverSeeker I would think that he would know that the sets were not sealed by the mint.
Have you ever actually sold this guy "unopened" sets?
@scottbrennan7686 yes and he paid a premium for the few I had, then opened them in front of me.
Check that Franklin half dollar for full bell lines! You never know until you look 😄
When they say Full Bell Lines, do all the lines on Bell have to be full or Just the Bottom two sets of Lines????
@@KELLYRAEcopperqueen That means they all have to be complete. If there are any that are incomplete it's not full bell lines
@The QuickSilver 101 I understand that. Let me re-phrase!. What about the lines at top of Bell with the writing area. Do these lines have to be full as well.??? This is what i wondered?
Insane, wow!
That was the year my younger sister was born!👍
The cent & nickel are nicely toned! 👍
61 year old coin look beautiful
Seeker---The mint DID NOT SEAL the sets before they left the mint. The sealing occurred due to storing in High humidity places, or in damp places after leaving the mint. The envelopes had the glue strips on them and that got damp during storage or other reasons.
That's awesome
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What is a cameo ??
What is a Cameo?
I think the are resealed most of the time
You can usually tell when they're revealed this one wasn't for sure
@@SilverSeeker I have a few unopened sets maybe I should open them
What'd you pay for it?
I have a few pre-1964 proof sets that have not been.
Is finding a cameo something that happens for certain years?
it can happen for any year. i have a 1952 Proof Wheat Cent with some decent cameo
What's a cameo?
Everyone saved this stuff, but most old silver bars were melted
It's literally incalculable how many of the old 90% silver coins got melted down as the silver price spiked in 1980. They made tons of the stuff, but a lot of it is now in bars instead of coins.
What’s a cameo? I have 2 of these
A cameo is when there is a distinct difference in relief between the field and the design. For example, the field will be very shiny and the design will have a frosted look.
Question: mite be a dumb one but genuinely curious can you take one of the coins out and get it graded?
Too bad no cameo. Still nice set.😮😊
I wished you would of taken it out of the plastic to see if it had any milk spots on it.
Ill bin that awesome nickel.
Is there a safe way to clean a mis struck two pound coin from the uk
*DO NOT* CLEAN YOUR COINS.!!!!!!!
Canadian mint sets are way better as they have a silver dollar with it.
WHO LOVES BENJI'S, YES, THIS GUY. JUST SAYING !!
Should I buy one of those and take the coins out for my type set
That's what I did for my Dansco 7070...not going to find better than these!
I don't think all were sealed originally. Maybe the person who sold it to you, sealed it themselves, because it would increase its potential value. Beware.
I've heard that before but I've opened sealed mint boxes of special mint sets before and they were all sealed inside the box.
Some have said that moisture caused the glue to get wet enough to seal them but they were sealed well like someone pressed them close.
I also know there are dealers who walk show floors looking for sealed sets and buys them specifically to open and look for cameos.
Dunno... you may be right I'm not 100% sure but not sure why a dealer would do that if they were all sealed by the public later.
Or maybe in the 60s they didn't know to look for cameos?
Another thing I think about is that at coin shows I've never seen open that's opened by the flap on the back... they're all cut at the top? Hmm... I'll have to do some research.
This is true.
@scottbrennan7686 "this is true" doesn't help much... try adding context. There are multiple comments here.
I have a 1968 proof set, all of them don't have a mint mark is that right? and yes the they are not a cameo either.
No mint mark is Philadelphia.
I had the impression that all proof sets are from the san Fransisco mint
Why?
Gow do you tell if they are a cameo? I just bought 20 Benji proof sets
On a cameo, the background of the surface will be mirrorlike shiny finish, but the head will be different: dull, white, milky. It is an unmistakable contrast of two different finishes on the same metal. They also mint reverse cameos that are stunning.
im 1000% sure that was open.
Not sure how you can be 100% sure about that
@@SilverSeeker ok 90% lol ty for sharing
@@buyystocks I'll accept 90% for the record. :)
Maybe I'm wrong but is that not just a mint set , different from a proof set in that none of them are cameos and they aren't struck any differently than regular coins they are just put in that plastic right after being minted. Proof sets come in the hard plastic and are struck differently I thought
Nope. These 60s proof sets came in these flimsy cellophane packages. Only the later proof sets begining in the 70s came in hard plastic.
I would have laughed 😂if he had Jacked Up that proof set using that knife!!