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The Monster's Den: Ranking the King Kong films
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- Опубліковано 6 кві 2022
- Join Pete Pardo, Jamie Laszlo, Chris Alo, and Ralph Tamborra as they rank the films featuring the mighty King Kong. #kingkong
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My list :
9 - King Kong (2005)
8 - King Kong Lives
7 - Son of Kong
6 - Godzilla vs Kong
5 - King Kong (1976)
4 - Kong Skull Island
3 - King Kong Escape
2 - King Kong vs Godzilla
1 - King Kong (1933)
Still waiting to see Kinky Kong...
RALPH/ amazing collection. CHRIS/ always on the $$$$. Jamie and PETE , great as usual. 👍💯
Just watched the 1933 King Kong last night. I totally agree with you guys. It was great. Couldnt keep my eyes off the screen. They didnt pad that movie at all. So much better written than movies today.
Original was, and still is, the best.
Ralphs Monster Island drawing is awesome. Holy Cow… makes prints of that. I’d buy one.
Thanks for the compliment, I appreciate it.
I don't claim to have seen all of the King Kong films, but you guys have inspired me to do so. Thanks for sharing your collection... Unbelievable!
I usually don't watch TMD, then I realized I get Grumpy Uncle Alo and it's so fucking worth it. 🤘🏻
Ralph needs to sell one of his Kongs and buy a microphone.
Nah, I just got to stop trying to fit so much crap in my background and sit closer to my phone LoL
Love this group together great show as always! Ralph has been a great addition to the Monster’s Den!
Thanks, I love participating on The Monsters Den.
Another great episode of TMD. Kong is my favorite monster. Love seeing all of Ralph’s collection but just can’t hear him. Awesome collection Ralph. Jamie is funny as always. And any show with King Alo is always great. Thanks Pete for the great episode and all you do for us fans. SOT IS THE BEST CHANNEL ON UA-cam 🤘🏻
Sorry for the audio problems, I will sit closer next time and not focus on fitting so much shit in my background if I'm invited back.
@@countralfus6408 it’s all good brother. We love seeing all your stuff. We’re just jealous of your toys. Lol. Awesome having you on the show.
Thanks and cheers!
I can't tell you how much I enjoyed this episode. As a huge Kong fan, I am amazed that I didn't see this one. What a great group.
What a great episode, so much detail about movies I have never seen and the props from Ralf were simply amazing - please invite him back for some more episodes of The Monster's Den very soon!
Chris' passionate spiel about The Planet of the Apes sequels on the last episode has led us to having an Ape Marathon this weekend, and I was in complete agreement about Conquest being the best of them all. Movies 1-5 were all excellent and we both enjoyed them thoroughly. We even watched the Marky Mark one yesterday, huuuuuge mistake. Making our way through the new trilogy now with only War to go, let's see if it lives up tp the hype... Cheers🍻
Once again, Chris and I are in agreement about Peter Jacksons KING KONG!!! The CGI alone makes it look awful!!! You guys are awesome!!
Hey Ralph, had to tell you my uncle back in Italy actuall when to the cinema to see the original King Kong. My dad would tell me how his brother would describe the movie to him etc. Still holds up today no problem at all. Great atmosphere
Ok now there needs to be a weekly show where Chris Alo reacts to a classic. Can you imagine the rants if he sits through movies by Bergman, Fellini, Godard, Bresson, etc.? The comedic possibilities are endless.
Whew, well, I haven't seen anything by any of them!
This show would be a classic. Alo takes down the classics.
I was watching Collector's Corner, yesterday, with two comics shop owners. For the final trade, the visiting appraiser wanted a low-grade Amazing Fantasy #15 (1st Spider-Man) in exchange for an original Kong theater ceiling hanger silkscreened on acetate (one of only 8 remaining known.) The collector wouldn't go for it. Ralph would have blown his top... as did I.
Wow! That would be amazing to own!
I understand chris opinion on 2005 but I have a soft spot cause I saw that when it came out (8 years old) had the toys and video game. So it holds a special place in my heart however I dont love it as much as I did and there is a good amount of fat that could be cut. Favorite is the original. Top 10 film for me
I have discovered when I watch too much Chris Alo, I need to binge watch Bob Ross videos. Then when I watch too many Bob Ross videos, I need to watch Chris Alo again. That rant on King Kong 2005 was epic and I totally agree.
Just let me know if you want me to start talking about happy little trees!
@@chrisalo2989 Definitely, and your squirrel collection too….but only after you guys do a Mario Bava episode.
Personally I am not really into these films but I always love Chris Alo the man is a genius. Makes it a blast to watch!
You are too kind, thank you
Chris could rant about the phone book and I would enjoy it.
This was fun to watch, thanks guys.
The universe was off-center the minute Alo started shaking his head at the hilarious prop. The trademark Alo rant against the Jackson Kong did not disappoint, but it missed the mark; I enjoy that movie, even if it was almost ruined by an extra hammed Jack Black. I don't know Ralph Tamborra, but that dude rocks. Get him a boom mike! His shot looks great, and he knows this stuff.
Imo, 1976 Kong is an absolute masterpiece; easily the best score, cast/acting, majestic feel. One of the most underrated films of all time in any genre. The 1933 original is amazing too. And I'll always have a soft spot in my heart for King Kong Vs. Godzilla '62. Jackson's CGI-fest was a tasteless atrocity imo.
WOW! fantastic collection, Ralph 🍺🍺!!
Thanks and cheers!
1. King Kong (1933)
2. Son of Kong (1933)
3. Kong Skull Island
4. King Kong (2005)
5. King Kong (1976)
Never saw any of the others.
Best book: The Making of King Kong by Orville Goldner and George E. Turner (A. S. Barnes and Co., 1975)
Awesome show today…. Ralph is a great guest on The Monsters Den.
Only bummer is we can barely hear Ralph, he’s too far from his microphone…..
Yeah, I try to get my background in the screen so my phone is like 3 feet away, if I get invited back I will correct that.
@@countralfus6408 please do . . many of us just listen and don't even look at rhe video so SOUND is crucial
@@countralfus6408 I loved your props and posters Ralf,awesome stuff
I rank them as follows:
9. King Kong Lives
8. King Kong (1976)
7. King Kong (2005)
6. King Kong Escapes
5. Son of Kong
4. Kong: Skull Island
3. King Kong Vs Godzilla
2. Godzilla Vs Kong
1. King Kong (1933)
i loved Peter Jackson's King Kong
9. King Kong Lives
8. Godzilla vs Kong
7. King Kong Escapes
6. Song of Kong
5. King King (1976)
4. Kong Skull Island
3. King Kong (2005)
2. King Kong vs. Godzilla
1. King Kong (1933)
Chris might want to give Schindler's List a try. It is one of the most horrifying, harrowing, disturbing films ever made.
I'm sure it's a great movie, but I have little interest in real life horror.
@@chrisalo2989 You. Would. Hate. It.
@@Jamie.Laszlo I will take your word for it! But yeah, not for me.
Nice setup for Ralph but he's way too far from his microphone or laptop.
Yeah, I try to get too much shit in my background , so I put my phone too far away, I will correct this if I'm invited back.
@@countralfus6408 You have amazing stuff.
Though it might not be the best King Kong movie, I still have a soft spot for the 1976 version - the movie poster of Kong atop the World Trade Center swatting jet fighters is a classic image.
EVen I had that poster and I wasn't near the King Kong fan that these guys are.
I love it too, saw it in theaters back then and have the original poster too from the theater giving some of them away. Kong's physique of course is way off on it. Just remembered, Lange was my first movie crush thus named my then pet hamster Jessica.
Fantastic episode gentlemen! I will say to piggy back off of what Jamie said that yes, horror films need to be off in their own separate category for comparison. I love the 2021 Zilla vs. Kong despite the movies many flaws. All I cared about was seeing a giant ape, and a giant lizard duke it out and destroy some buildings; never cared if the plot made any sense. If I wanted to watch a more "respectable" monster film, I'd watch the original Kong or Godzilla.
There is a great Kong ride on the Wildwood Nj boardwalk on Moreys Pier
The original King Kong and Son of Kong are easily my two favorites. I did love King Kong Lives as a kid, but they sorta neuter Kong in it and make him a victim. The original Kong was no victim.
The original is unbeatable in my opinion. An all time classic that can never be topped no matter what Kong moves come out!
I'm with Chris on Jackson's Kong - not the WORST Kong film - BUT man I could not wait for that film to end! SO overcooked! I literally told my friends I felt like I sat through it twice!
AND yes 2021 Kong V Godzilla may be the DUMBEST movie ever made! And Godzilla makes faces. Godzilla does NOT. MAKE. FACES!
I got to a see a screening of the unedited (boob-poke scene) version of 1933 Kong in a small theater at a comic book convention in the late 60s.
My brothers and I were SUPPOSED to see the re-mastered theatrical screening in March of 2020- but you-know-what happened. . . .
Movie is way too long. They should do another edit, get it down to 1 hour and 30 minutes or so and do it in black and white. Take a hatchet to it and make it only keep the key elements of the story using the original as a template. Some amazing bits in that movie (the ending makes you gasp when he's flying around the Empire State building) but way, way to indulgent.
@@vonchaney9216 That would help, but to me everything was so overdone and laid on so thick that it is fatiguing in general.
@@vonchaney9216 90 minutes? Then I would totally watch it again!
I think before King Kong RKO was in financial trouble and King Kong saved the studio. So in hindsight they didn’t have the $ for Son of Kong.
I haven't seen a ton of King Kong movies, so this might be a poser thing to say, but I loved Kong Skull Island!
To compare Jackson's movie to the original is like comparing an enlarged, multi colored digital print out of the Mona Lisa to the original. The original is an astonishing work of art. A few tidbits of information: it's the first film to have a musical score. Also, Kong is a metaphor for the middle aged man. Think about it.
First soundtracked film is The Jazz Singer.
@@BenDowdy No, that had music but not a score accompanying the film.
Ralph should open a museum ! I am a big fan of his but for the love of god please get a better mic. We could barely hear you, the same when you are on the fantasy files.
Sorry about the audio problems, I sit to far from my phone because I try to fit too much crap in my background, I will try to correct this in the future. Cheers!
Gotta' agree with Chris about the Peter Jackson remake. Wow,I'm not alone! Thanks,Chris.
Genius content. Love Chris.
Can you rank the Halloween, Elm Street and Hellraiser movies
Ok Jamie, here's ranking the blonds: 1 Naomi Watts, 2 Jessica Lange, 3 Fay Wray
I just had the Aurora King Kong model and switched out glow in the dark head and hand and feet
And here I thought Chris Alo was “King og the Props/Toys”?!?? Count Ralf puts him to shame on this one. The only film that I haven’t watched is apparently the worst according to your panel - “King Kong Lives”. I’ll have to watch it at least once just for the early Linda Hamilton.
It’s too bad RKO didn’t start the monster Vs. comedian films. Wheeler and Woolsey meet Kong would have been incredible.
Takes Jackson's Kong and cut an hour/hour and half and make it black and white. Whole new movie.
Only way I would agree with Chris is that I only watch the Peter Jackson version up until Kong gets caught on the island. Up until then it's a good movie. Can't be bothered with the rest.
This is the best crew for these topics. Love it ! Propzilla LMAO. Is it me or does Ralph look like the late Vinnie Paul of Pantera ?
Haaa! I've heard I look like Dimebag when I'm drunk and thrashing but that's a first for Vinnie Paul, maybe if I gained some more weight LoL.
Both were awesome. Cool props dude keep coming back please.
Ralph need a new microphone
That or just stop trying to get so much in my background and sit closer to my phone.
@@countralfus6408 yeah. some sort of condenser mic would be better. it would pick up your voice from where your sitting.Also your phone mic was modulating a bit.
My list:
9. King Kong Lives
8. King Kong Escapes
7. Godzilla vs. Kong (2021)
6. Son of Kong
5. King Kong (1976)
4. King Kong (2005)
3. Kong: Skull Island
2. King Kong vs. Godzilla (1962)
1. King Kong (1933)
Hilarious how Dimebag there had to smoke during the video.
Monster monster. EXCELLENT!
9. Godzilla vs. Kong
8. King Kong Lives
7. Kong: Skull Island
6. King Kong Escapes
5. King Kong (1976)
4. Son of Kong
3. King Kong vs. Godzilla
2. King Kong (2005)
1. King Kong (1933)
Thank you Chris Allo! King Kong (04) was a frickin snoozefest. A CGI wankjob. Watched it once and never again. Peter Jackson needs to go back and make good movies like Meet The Feebles and Dead Alive.
Here's my ranking:
9. King Kong (04)
8. Godzilla vs Kong
7. King Kong Lives
6. Kong: Skull Island
5. Son of Kong
4. King Kong (76)
3. King Kong Vs. Godzilla
2. King Kong Escapes
1. King Kong (33)
As for the rest, I never liked the American Godzilla movies. They all suck. Skull Island was still trite, but the best of that bunch. King Kong Lives is terrible, but I would be more likely to stop at it on cable and watch a few minutes than my bottom two.
I get the distaste for King Kong Escapes, but for me this is one is so much fun.
You should do a non-Kong monkey film ranking. There's a ton of those. Both ripoffs and stuff like Gorilla at Large and Murders In the Rue Morgue.
Thanks for agreeing with me!! :)
@@chrisalo2989 No thanks needed. It was an absolute chore. I kind of liked the look of NY for the first 5 min and then it was time to move on. The squirming didn't stop there. I totally gave up when Jack Black was running underneath the brontosaurus stampede. Trash.
I'm with Chris on the 2005 King Kong. It took forever to get going, the tone was all wrong and the scene with Kong falling thru the air and fighting dinosaurs and protecting Ann, that scene JUMPED THE SHARK for me. The rest of the film couldn't end fast enough for me. I was bitterly disappointed. My favorite Kong of all time is still the original.
Chris came right out of the blocks there , can’t disagree really, they manage to ruin everything these days , the original had a real magical quality about it , always the best
They know that the vast majority of movie-goers now only care about special effects. And by that I mean CGI, cuz there are no models, stunts, etc.
I've had more than one person (certain age group, of course) tell me that crappy movies were good or great cuz they didn't care about the story, just the effects.
I agree with Chris here, it's candy ass silly and above all I don't like the look of the film. Had they made it say 10 years before or even 5, this would've looked very different as 2005 was right at the very beginning of some huge industry changes in terms of post-production practices of movie making, in particular stuff like grading. So the whole thing has a video game feel to it, I'm not a gamer anyway so fantasy/adventure movies with nonstop over-the-top CGI action (even basic action movies per se) is a big turn off for me.
@@LarryFleetwood8675 thanks Larry!
I'll agree to disagree With Chris on this one. King Kong is essentially a revised version of La Belle et la Bête (The Beauty and the beast) and Jackson's version is a truer adaptation than any film before it.
Jackson's version takes the time to create an environment to ensure the audience buys into the relation between Anne Darrow and Kong. In setting it in the depression era, Jackson relects the desperation of all the characters and places the emphasis on "the innocence retained" nature of Anne. It's that unspoiled gift of Anne that makes her such a prize for all the characters including Kong. Jack Black's relentlessly driven Orsen Welles inspired character (perhaps the true monster in the film) sees her as the vital centre piece of his epic, Adrian Brody's cynical playwrite Driscoll views her naivety as liberating and Kong views her as an alien soul mate amongst the rubble and ruin of Skull Island.
The film is not flawless as the stampede verges on comical and the CGI in this particular scene has not dated well, there is simply too much thrown at the screen. On reflection, what is dynamite on the story board does not always transfer well onto the big scene. The Kong vs T-Rexes battle is a set piece of the ages. The whole sequence is a film within a film and is perhaps one of the best action sequences ever committed to film. The initial act with Darrow fleeing from an unsuspecting Kong to find herself chased by one beast to another, Kong's initial fight with the T-Rexes with an avalanche of plausible wrestling moves, the Spielberg nature of the vine battle followed by Darrow now seeking Kong's protection in the final act, all masterfully paced and beautifully executed.
Much is said about the ice rink sequence but this it is essential to securing the emotional tie in. Here, Kong is shown to be vulnerable and Darrow and Kong are ironically for the first time on an equal footing, for a few precious minutes the dancing couple are away from all the outside intrusions and harshness of any of the worlds. It's visually akin to Disney in having an almost dreamlike magical quality, deftly supported by a helplessly romantic James Newton Howard sweepingly score. It is Peter Jackson's stage to make the audience believe there is a love between both parties which in turn constructs a more emotional finale.
Last but not least, Andy Serkis delivers the most believable of Kongs in a performance that has real depth and nuance, yet never compromising the fact that Kong is an ape. This Kong has loved and lost, cried and laughed and perhaps more importantly conquered and been conquered. It was beauty that finally killed the beast.
Love the music max steiner.
that hats awsome chris
thanks!
The Original King Kong will always be the best (IMHO).
Peter Jackson King Kong is my favorite. Followed by the 1976 one with Jeff Bridges and Jessica Lange. 3rd, is the 1963 King Kong vs. Godzilla. May have to watch the 1st 1. Been a very long time.
My third time through. Not your fault I keep passing out. I don't want to miss anything.
Great Episode, but Ralph needs to turn up the volume of his mic. Compared to the others he isn't loud enough.
King Kong vs Godzila is my fave though I never saw the version of when Godzila wins.
Lol i also don't like 2005.
Makes no sense for them to risk their life to save Ann. The movie establishes that Karl is the only character that likes her.
Must be thursday.
I just picked up the 1976 King Kong from library with checking it out it's okay I don't like the Kong is a guy in a suit and it's kind of dated 1976 but it's all right Jessica Lange was really hot back in the day
Agree 100% with Chris, Peter Jackson's King Kong is the absolute worst !
Thank you! :)
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Can't believe Alo didn't Sandman Ralph.
Can't somebody turn Ralph up...or tell him to....pls
Sounds like Pete Pardo is suffering from the king Kong of allergies
Ralph is barely audible.
Sorry, I tried to fit so much in my background and my phone is like 3 feet away, I will correct this if invited back.
Kinky Kong 😂
i think everyone is nuts in this one.....1-1976...2-peter jackson...3-skull island...4-1933.....the rest all suck
I dunno. Putting 1976 at #1 and the original at #4 seems a little nuts to this nutty guy.
And the rest do kinda suck. But you can still find entertainment (along with childhood memories) within a sucky movie.
Could open ur own shop.
I really enjoyed the 2005 version.
So...thanks Chris. I've never ended a video so quickly. LOL
Citizen kane good apart from the opera scene.
The Mighty Gorga is the best/worst giant ape movie....
1. Kong Skull Island
2. King Kong (2005)
3. King Kong (1976)
4. King Kong (1933)
I also greatly disliked the Peter Jackson Kong.
J cards get discarded ...
the 1976 kong is the WORST attempt at anything I hve ever seen. Its lousy and looks cheap, and when you compare it with the original 43 YEARS EARLIER, it looks even worse if that's at all possible. If asked to rate this movie between 1 and 10? I wouldn't even bother to answer. NOTHING comes anywhere near the original.
That guy with all the King Kong posters has terrible sound
Yeah, will try correct that in the future, I tried to fit too much in my background and because of that I'm to far from my phone.
I used to watch 1933 KING KONG and JAWS on repeat as a kid, my mom bought me the vhs tapes
My list has one on it King Kong (1933)
Just got the 2022 German Blu-ray with a ton of extras different cuts and dubs, the sequel(s) and even a colorized version.
Have yet to see the Peter Jackson Kong.
But the King Kong _video game_ they made for that movie was awesome. Super fun, challenging yet fair. You played as Kong for part of the game, including the end. Emotionally quite powerful, I'm not afraid to say.
And if you beat the whole game with a high enough score, you actually unlocked an ending where Kong lives in the end. How cool is that?
Well worth tracking, even today. Truly worthy of the noble beast.
Great topic, btw!
WAY off topic and probably not the proper venue but will you be commenting on the new Pink Floyd song.