It's obvious that Ashley and Michael have an arrangement. The biggest issue I have with Michael is he is consistently touching people without consent. If he were a man caught gropping a woman as many times as he has, there would be outrage. For some reason, the conversation is always about his sexuality when it in reality most people shouldn't even care. This is why men of sexual assault don't come forward. I'm over the fight.
@@calinola7957 I definitely don't think he is as rich as Ashley thinks. The fact that she doesn't have access to the money but he gives her a monthly allowance lets me know she out of the loop. Her mother was living under a bridge, she didn't grow up with a lot but whatever Michael has was more than she was used to. She claim they don't have a prenup anymore, just because he said he got rid of it doesn't mean he did. She is going to be just like Dr. Dre wife. She don't want Michael, she popping kids out for security, yet throwing shade at Candace because she married a non-wealthy white man. I do think some of the girls are jealous of Candace's upbringing, they married money but her Black parents created generational wealth for their kids.
@@calinola7957 I do feel like they are not as wealthy as Ashley would have us to believe. But I think she is completely in it for the long haul. I think she doesn't mind the fuckery and it will be awhile, if ever, before she leaves Michael.
When Monique said she attacked Candiace because she pushed her and Gisselle said it was her who pushed Monique to break up the fight, did anyone notice how Monique quickly kept changing her story on why she went upside Candiace head.
I hate how they glossed over Gizelle pushing Monique from that angle... it was already escalating with the two ladies and I felt that shove (while it may have been well intended in the moment) just kicked it up a notch
@@RealNaturalHairGuru Monique had already touched Candiace's hair twice that's why Gizelle pushed her away. No, Monique was angry because the other girls were laughing when Candiace was twirling around and Monique didn't like it.
Monique has definitely studied that fight to the T and knows it blow by blow. She needed to come up with a reason for ponding Candiace’s head in. Studying that video over and over helped her clean up her narrative because her story has always been all over the place. It’s all very calculated.
She studied it but she still sees what she wants to see. She clearly is continually justifying her actions. Candiace did not have her hand in that girls face. When you watch it, Monique says get your hand out my face and Candiace said your hand is in my face. Monique finds any one thing to latch onto in order to try to make herself be justified.
I couldn't agree more monique was my favourite but know I look at her sideways not saying candice is an angel but come on girl admit what you did was wrong!
That's what Funky Dineva said, go to 24:02-25:52 of his review and listen. But before I hear his review. I had thought about that on Sunday night listening to her.
I can't understand why people act like the footage justifies Monique's actions smh Everything she said happened, happened after her initial contact. They both were talking with their hands, Candace only got closer after Monique flicked her hair, Giselle armed pushed Monique (she even admitted she thought it was Candace), the glass came as you had Candace head almost completely on the table, Candace was blindly swinging. I don't even care for Candace but people's hate for her is clouding their common sense.
Michael Darby is a predator. He needs to go. Monique never liked Candiace. That’s why she didn’t sit down and speak to her as a friend to address whatever issues she had. That’s why she continued to pick at Candiace for 5 episodes. Meanwhile Candiace is apologizing and walking away b/c she’s extending grace to her “friend.” So while Candiace is mourning a friendship Monique doesn’t give a damn that’s why there’s such a drastic difference in their reactions.
I’m so glad I watched rox video bc I feel she’s not as biased she sees all sides and so does her subscribers.. yes candiace gotta mouth on her but on RHOA that’s deemed as a good thing! Being able to read somebody and use your words but on RHOP it’s a different set of rules I guess smh
Omg someone that sees the light. I been ready to unsubscribe from some ppl because the spew so much venom toward Candiace like Monique has been angelic.
I agree with u and ur rox star she came up with an excuse for every motion Candice made. What still boggles my mind is that she keeps trying to find a reason to blame Candice and never admitted her wrongdoing to Candice or apologized. She played a part and she keeps changing her story
Candace haven't taken responsibility for her actions either and if i was Monique I wouldn't apologize, for what? Candace didn't apologize to her for the foul shit she's said
Monique is the queen of changing stories. Look at how she plotted & got ahead of the season by using lies & manipulation. It's interesting how her stans still don't hold her accountable for ANYTHING. I'm interested to see how long she can hold on without real deep dive therapy. She's a ticking time bomb! Everything her Pastor told her was spot on.
Thank you Rox,she studied that fight and came up with reasons as to why she did what she did.First it’s Candiace mouth,now it’s something else.And Candiace hand wasn’t directly under neck,nor was her she tossing broken glasses around
It was Candiace's mouth alright. She thought Candiace was about to tell all of her business and embarass the hell out of her, and she couldn't take it.
But why though? I feel like this situation is so overblown. It wasn’t even a real fight. No punches thrown, no faces slapped. Hair was pulled. It was a situation, but not one that deserves this much time and attention.
@@Strawberryfearsforever It was an attack, not just on a person but on reality itself. Someone has intentionally gaslighted the audience with lies and misdirection for a year now. And what’s worse is her efforts seem to have worked.
Rox, I appreciate you. You are one of the few people that accurately discussed what happened on this reunion. You actually have sense and are level headed. Conversations around RHOP have been irking my damn nerves. I'm glad it's almost over.
I just want Monique to explain why she fought Candiace, of all people, when Candiace was the one who alerted her via Karen (their mutual friend) of the plot. You would think Candiace was the least important person in the plot. That's the biggest thing that I don't understand.
I think there’s 2 different things going on. Monique fought Candiace because after weeks of all this tension, both of them couldn’t stand each other anymore. I think what you are wondering is why did Monique stop liking Candiace
Monique also said on her live that Candiace told her about the plot as well but she didn’t tell her right away. So yeah Monique is a ball of confusion.
Monique keeps saying things were happening behind the scenes, but won’t say what they were. I can’t begin to see things her way without a better explanation.
When Andy says that the rumors "weren't on the show" I think he means that despite Charisse showing up, she never said anything about Monique on camera. The only reason why Gizelle was able to talk about it in her confessionals was because Monique made her problems with Charisse known on camera while eating with Gizelle (and in her confessionals). If Monique didn't make it an issue then the producers never would've asked Gizelle or her about it. Monique played herself.
@@latasiatatum5996 It does matter because Monique "point" was that Gizelle wanted to bring it to the show - that didn't happen. And Monique was trying to be her friend at the start of the season anyway. So, whats her point in bringing up something that happened 2 years ago.
Am I the only one disgusted by Karen dismissing Michael's assault on men so she could take another swipe at Gizelle? It was so icky. Michael should be banned from the show, but Karen has to make everything about Gizelle. BTW, I think Monique definitely destroyed the footage that showed Michael grabbing the other man, and that's why Ashley wrote the letter. I also think Monique watched the footage of the fight and catered her story to the video especially as her initial comments conflict with her new version.
Why Karen is so loyal to Ashley is beyond me. Ashley dragged her worse than anyone and still hasn’t apologized and for Karen to be a rape survivor and is ok with Michael is strange to me.
@@Bloooooooooooppp Karen wants to stay on the show. She knows her anti-Gizelle comments are a big reason she's on the show. I just thought she'd knock them off long enough to put Michael in his place. IT just goes to show what fame will do to someone (ironic considering Karen's criticism of Gizelle).
Karen was wrong for dismissing Micheal’s assault on these men. I don’t blame her for coming at Giselle. Giselle has come for Karen sooo hard since season 1
Monique is a liar who does not take accountability for her actions. I've said it over and over and over again. She so wants to be who she TRULY is but feels she has married "up" and has to put on a front. I can look at Chris' mama and tell that he's not "up" but, you know, to each his own. In truth, he's just as gutter as she is...just with money now. Truthfully, I'd probably respect Monique more if she'd just keep it real about the situation instead of attempting to perpetrate this lie that she knows damn well is a LIE.
I think it's time for me to close the door on this show as a viewer, honestly. The toxicity and animosity from the viewers is quite disgusting to see and hear. I just saw someone say that because Candiace "attempted to violently attack Ashley with a knife last year," Ashley would have been justified in calling the police so they could come and shoot Candiace like a dog. I also saw where people said Chris Samuels would be justified in putting his hands on the other ladies after this season. Really?!? It's funny how these reality shows reveal so much about the people who watch them. I loved the light-hearted, classy-adjacent shade and the fun trips overseas during the last few seasons. However, it's obvious that era is over now. The show has turned a dark corner, and I'm no longer interested in seeing where it heads from here.
Agreed! People have their favourites but the outright vileness of those stans is despicable. Now anytime the ladies (other than Monique) say anything even if its valid - its a problem 🙄
Very true and even if it is completely real. My goodness, dont people are taking it way too personal. May goodness, i am over the fight. I dont care if Candace sheds another tear or Monique apologizes. New story line is needed.
I absolutely agree, Monique fans are like Trump supporters. They do not listen to reason, truly scary. They leave violent irrational comments and have ruined the show!
THANK GOD FOR YOU!! Monique reversed engineered that fight to suit her answers. She said she’s watched it 100s of times. She is a liar! Like, just say you wanted to fight her because you wanted to fight her. Candiace does talk to much, but she didn’t deserve to get beat up. I’m so over this fight. OVER IT!
She didn’t get beat up and the footage does show that Candice wasn’t innocent in the fight. It is not like Monique just went up to Candice and punched her in the face for no reason. Candice was running her mouth and didn’t respect Monique’s space. They were both at fault for this fight.
@@trinarenae7735 Space? There was a TABLE between them. Candace waved her hand but it never showed how far out she did it. Monique touched her hair first (I doubt she saw the hand gesture) and made it physical. Yes, Candace talks too much but you’re weak if at 37 people’s words make you want to fight. IJS.
@@trinarenae7735 DIDN'T Monique SAY on camera, while speaking to her pastor that "Candiace didn't deserve that"? You're literally defending the indefensible.
@@traceyigwe4705 right!! Monique debunked that whole "well she said this, and her hand did that" story when she confessed to her pastor that nothing that Candiace did warranted that.. She is a walking contradiction
Candace wants an apology. Monique is too childish to do so. Monique is a silly woman. Candace needs to let this whole thing go and move on and carry mace.
Monique is listening to lawyers not caring what viewers think she should do. If you have charges pressed against u it’s not a good idea to admit guilt by apologizing. Candace would have gotten an apology if she didn’t involve the courts. Ijs
Candiace does not want an apology. She wants subjugation, and dominance. You can't get that from grown adults. That may work on her husband, but there is no one on that show that going to offer her that. Also, she want to forever be the victim and that is not what an adult should want.
@@TanukiOfficial I don't agree with you at all. It's sad that you are against a black woman getting an apology for being assaulted. I guess black lives matter only if you don't cry and demand respect. You have it all backwards and it's sad.
Monique ain’t no damn bully. Y’all really need to stop. The girl just had a damn breaking point and Candace big ass mouth pressed that button that we all have. Some ppl will snap n slap the shit outta u and some just cry. It’s obvious majority of these anti Monique comments are coming from a jealous place. Candace ass is crazy asf her mama be ready to knock her out but Monique the problem? Y’all need to stop it and realize no matter how much u dislike Monique...Candace is still immature and crazy.
I think Monique studied the fight too... but I do t think the playback proved her right. There was only one part of the video that matched what she said, and the rest was different from what she said. So she is full of it and she knows it. She might as well take accountability and apologize.
No Rox Monique brought up the rumor in her confessional. She wouldn't tell the producers what the rumor is that Charrise was spreading. Then the producers ASKED everyone during confessional taping what is the rumors about Monique and they only showed Gizelle. Remember the confessional taping is after the show was filmed. Monique Samuels motor mouth brought her own rumor on the show to justify what she did to Candiace...lol Edited: Monique also lied and said that Gizelle mentioned her baby in the taping...I have receipts...lol That's all I'm saying 🤣 😂 🤷🏾♀️
I have a issue yes the Gigi thing was bad but let us not forget that Ashley said Monique was a drunk and that is how she lost her baby. But Monique forgave that so what is different about the others.
Right! Monique just wanted and needed to find somebody to pick on and candiace was an easy target seeing that a lot of ppl don’t like her for what ever reason
“Plot” happened Jan. 2019 (8 months before filming) yet Monique invites Gizelle to her home around Chris and the baby AND talks about befriended Gizelle.
I’m pretty sure she did that because they are filming a show. It would have been a bigger issue if she didn’t want to film with Giselle at the beginning of the season because she would have been deemed as difficult
I agree with Rox... Candiace needs to toughen up with this group of women. She will need to be able to turn off her emotions instantly. She is sensitive because her feelings regarding her friendship with Monique were pure. But, it was not reciprocated. She is HURT. I’ve been there and I’ve learned. She will learn also. But, she needs to learn before next season. I don’t want to see any tears next season. If she needs to cry she need to wait until the camera stops rolling and cry in the car on the way home. Period.
I hear what you're saying but ppl keep complaining that black women are not feminine or soft. I think she is also entitled to showing her emotions is anger the only one dimension we have. She will learn but its good to see her process her emotions. Either way both of them are exhausting to me, the show was fun/escape and now it's toxic. I don't watch any of the other shows where grown women fight so I wasn't expecting this from Potomac.
I completely agree! I have emotions like Candice & I can’t stand it. All that crying is ridiculous! I know because I do it!! I feel like it invalidates my feelings & the point I am trying to make. I need to toughen up & so does Candice... it’s the truth. 🤷🏽♀️ Let me say I do NOT have her mouth!! If I did and I got beat up 🤕 then I’m just going to have to take my beating & get over it. 😤 IJS
If Monique keeps a binder of all the cast and their secrets, what makes us think NO VIDEO exists of Michael touching that camera man in her basement. And Karen and Ashley better watch out when a person keeps written receipts of people secrets soon they WILL turn on you too.
Im so disappointed in Karen. Candace lost TWO ”close friends” this season because Karen really acted like she truly cares for Candace but now Karen is all about staying up Ashley and Monique’s asses. It’s really sad and has to be so hurtful to Candace.
@@-Epiphany when Candiace started shading Ashley it was after Ashley was calling her "big" sis a drunk and obviously it backed fired because everyone said she was doing too much including her "big" sis Monique and yes I also do watch the Diva
Its funny how y'all make fun of Candace crying over a friendship ending in being attacked as weak. She needs to toughen up. Yet Monique the one who resulted to pulling hair is seen as strong 💪. Why? Monique has basically said Candace mouth is what made her snap and other lies. Isn't that being weak? People are literally saying Candace words are so bad that she needs an ass whooping. Which one is it? Crying is not a sign of weakness. Please black people get out of that stereotypical mess.
Monique did a lot of lying behind the scenes to bloggers about what happened in the fight and "allegedly" paid bloggers to report the details of the fight in her favor. Candiace has every right to be upset because monique also had a hand in those same bloggers and fans attacking candiace and saying horrible things to and about her. Monique's friend GG went on live last night and cleared up some info about how monique has been acting. GIGI said that monique changed and that she was inappropriate with the trainer which caused problems with Chris. The women never plotted to expose Monique, they were gossiping about monique for sure but, never plotted to expose her. When gizelle talked about the trainer rumor, I think its because production asked her about it. If you care to get the info that clears up this fight and all, check out alltruetea on IG.
The ladies were plotting there is a whole video of Candice talking about it in detail. She even said Gigi called all the ladies shopping the story around.
Exactly...that's what I don't like is how Monique filtered the story to the bloggers to be one sided which caused Candiace to be bullied on social media. I don't understand why Monique wanted 2 years to bring this up when this happened at Andy's baby shower.
This is one of the best reviews of the reunions you've given so far. This was very fair, logical, easy to digest. What do you think about her best friend Gigi spilling more tea about her on UA-cam?
@@k.wyattwyatt5800 I don't think that she cited with anyone. I think she was very fair and logical. There was no bias this involved, which made the entire review easier to digest. Roxy is not hurting for views we got her. Some of us will watch her videos twice... Why? Because we got her!
I like Monique but I still can't figure out why she had all the smoke for Candice but had nothing for Charrisse...If Charisse had started a rumor about my child's paternity, it would have been on sight the next time I saw her.
What's funny is I I think I post that on twitter except I said Iyanla should come to the show to help mend the broken fences. I mean because this show is going down a dark road. Everybody trying to do tit for tat!
Moniques whole better than everybody attitude is what makes her unlikable for me. The way she responded about the money was so unpleasant to hear. If the money is so little and inconsequential then why are you on the show? It's the way she scoffs at things like she's above it when she's out here fighting like a gutter snipe.
@@SirenRising I'm so sick of her better than everyone attitude. She's no different. She makes nasty comments on the side constantly but plays the victim. She's very troubled and insecure.
She responded that way because Andy was really shading her husband. He was trying to count Chris’s coins. It’s like he was surprised Chris was still doing well post retirement for an ex NFL player
Great review as usual! Glad I found this channel. I have been watching RHOP since it started and this season was very entertaining but also annoying bc of how polarizing it was. Glad it will be over next week. I think you did a great job with being fair to all the ladies and being hilarious with your voices at the same time 😂 Happy Holidays to you and your family!
Monique story has changed all this time from IG, Andy’s show, and any other time...just stand up in it and say I fought the girl and I ain’t sorry. All that fake crying in the season about being sorry and then talking bad in the confessionals make you look fake.
Honestly, Monique did get played by Gizelle. Sure, she could have squashed the Charisse issue with Candiace with a simple conversation but she let Gizelle pump her head up that Candiace was befriending Charisse on purpose.
Thanks for being so matter of fact about this show. A lot of others are getting so up in arms about rhop that it makes the watching experience cringy. They forget that this is mostly for play- play. Merry Christmas!
I said the same thing. You can tell Monique studied the fight video so she could try to justify her poor actions. Her story kept changing about what happened leading up to and during the fight. I believe she really did black out during the fight and didn't remember what happened. Then studied the fight in preparation for the reunion to try to defend herself. I think she should have just taken responsibility for her actions instead of looking for excuses.
I can’t say this enough but I come to this channel because you, Rox, are unbiased and mature. You are intelligent and funny and matter of fact. Thank you!! 🙏🏼♥️🙏🏼
I may be by myself with this one but I think that Candiace is hurt, not just because of the fight but because of the loss of a relationship. The fact that it’s a situation that she feels they cannot come back from bothers her. She has too much pride to express her disappointment, admit her role in the situation and admit her mouth gets her in trouble at times. Instead she’s doubling down on the victim role because it has snowballed out of control, it’s working for her and because she has the other castmates riding for her. Even when they were saying “no that didn’t happen” when the footage was replayed, Candiace looked so uncomfortable. You can tell she was biting the heck outta her jaw but didn’t say a word because she knew it would make her look bad to eat crow thus recommitting back to the victim role and removing herself from the line of fire.
I also think she is embarrassed and the internet bullying from the public doesn't help. I watched a little of Gigi's live, she said Monique and Candace were real friends. Gigi said, when she called Candace to talk to her about their fallout, Candace was team Monique. I do think she needs to find a way to deal if she is going to be on reality tv. Gigi said, she's surprised that Monique and Ashley are friends because Monique brought Gigi on the show to beat up Ashley for the drinking and driving rumors Ashley started.
@@TomiyeTv I agree. If Candiace doesn’t get a hold of her emotions and the current direction of her reality tv personality/career, I fear her future will look something like Tamar’s.
Remember when Robyn saw Charisse at Candiace's party Robyn said why is Charisse here. When did Candiace and Charisse become friends. When Candiace decided to file charges I'm sure Monique's lawyer dissected that video. You can't be mad at Monique for being prepared.
Monique got played like a fiddle this entire season. Instead of addressing her issues with the source (Candiace), she put way too much emphasis on the information that the "run tell that" crew said (Ashley's bitch ass, Gizelle's dumb ass, and to some degree Karen's old ass). If Monique would have just addressed Candiace, and if Candiace addressed Monique, all this BS would have never went down.
The rumor was that Monique’s son wasn’t Chris. That was what they were saying never made it to the show. Gizelle did bring up the cheating rumors but I don’t blame her after Monique kinda ruined her relationship with Sherman
Production really brought the rumor to the show by asking Giselle. They asked Monique and she wouldn't elaborate. When they asked Robin, she just said rumors but Giselle gave a little more but still nothing about paternity of a child. I think Monique forgets about the Sherman incident despite Chris making her apologize to him.
If Gizelle is going to be mad at Monique over Sherman, then she also needs to be mad at Charisse too!! That was something that Charisse and Monique were in on together because Charisse was mad at Gizelle for telling the world she was sleeping with the fireman!!
@@kksisters7092 Charisse didn’t tell everyone about what happened with Sherman in the park. That was all Monique which was why Sherman didn’t want to have anything to do with the show anymore.
Giselle only brought up the affair Monique may have had twice. She wasn’t bringing it up constantly. Also the big thing was the trainer being the father of Chase or another baby she lost. That never made it to the show. It wasn’t some plot. If the girls wanted to plot it would have made the show and Karen couldn’t do anything about it.
Monique is on a video crying about that dumb bird but when Candiace cried about you bashing her head, Monique is like, 'I can't '. Shit pissed me off. Then she's like, "I'm not built like that'. But you're built to cry over a bird? Not your friend, a whole human being but a bird? I almost called Monique a dumb b#$%h but I'm better than that.😑
I know Sis didn’t take her time to put that thick binder together to only use it once on Gizelle. According to her; EVERYBODY had a tab in the binder, including her friends Karen and Ashley. I wanna hear it all!
Im with you! Im so over this. Im ready for this to be over and I hope we get some new blood next season. Unbiased, fun folk. This season was too negative to be watching during covid
Thanks Rox! Candiace has to stop crying and Monique needs to not be so arrogant. And she for sure studied that fight to get her story straight. Before that, her lies were all over the place. And leaking falsehoods and fallacies to the bloggers was wrong as hell. I need these ladies to tighten up.
It's interesting how Monique did a video on her binder sections. When she talked about her security monitors, I find it REALLY hard to believe the camera's didn't work. She kept saying "we paid close to $10k to upgrade our security monitors." Upgrading them is different from "they weren't working". They threw money away ($250k) on that not for lazy mom's crap and the security camera's didn't work??😳
The only thing I can say about Monique is nobody can make her apologize if she doesn’t want to, and that’s not justifying her putting her hands on Candiace BUT for everyone to sit around and make her feel like she should cry or feel bad is a waste of time. She has a nonchalant attitude and that’s just something that comes from her personality 🤷🏽♀️
Agreed she should only apologize if it's truthful and genuine. However Idk if that's even possible since Candiace filed the criminal charges even though they were dismissed. A lawyer would advise for Monique not to admit guilt on camera because she could file a civil suit and use it against her.
@@Mloveblacque_always I honestly think Monique will not apologize regardless. It’s just gonna be worst before it turns semi ok with them, like how it was with Kenya and Porsha.
im surprised andy didn't ask a follow up question about who slept with katie to see what the reactions would have been. Question- is michael still able to be around all the producers after so many allegations because of white privilege?
You are absolutely right about Candace, And and Karen is old school so she is not going to talk about much in public... but privately she will talk about it.... The next episode seems like the meat of the episode, it’s gonna be interesting 🤔 🧐
To me the Footage showed Monique Lied and over exaggerate certain happenings. The production team was showing Monique was over exaggerating that what they was doing. Rox when Andy was saying it wasn't bought up on the son he means the Baby Part wasn't. Remember No one not even Giselle mention the baby.
I loved the housewives but this is the first season that I’ve really have been so over it. I used to like Monique but this fight situation really made me change how I feel about her. I think it will take a while but she will look back on this and regret doing it. Nothing that Candace said or did warranted a physical response no matter how she spins it. Candace is the smallest thing- nothing about her is threatening. Monique had every opportunity to walk away if she was feeling so threatened by little old Candace! I do agree that Candace has to toughen up and stop all this crying but I think certain populations of black people cant wrap their head around the fact that not all black women are fighters! For some that is not their reality and it’s ok that Candace feels some type of way for having been in this situation which is very public and embarrassing on both sides. For people saying Candace deserve it because of her mouth are hypocrites because they are on line talking shit the same way she does. So by their logic these Internet bullies also deserve an ass beating for running their mouths as well. I am so over this season! I hope they don’t bring back Monique and get back to the fun shade! This is too much! Happy Birthday Rox, enjoy your vacay!!!
I just wish that Monique would forgive Candace and also apologize for coming after her. I don't think Candace did anything to deserve what took place. Candace don't need to be on the show she has some emotional issues that need to be cleared up. I kind of feel sorry for her. It seems like she is still getting a beat down whether it is physical or mental.
Omg ty!! They think we're all like them walking around with vaseline and cornrows fighting for dumb sh!t when someone upsets us? Talking about our hood...what's wrong with these ppl? They act like they never left their block to integrate with the regular world. Not everyone Black is fighting all day. It's sad and Monique and her fandom's insistence that 'talking too much" warrants that kind of animalistic response only validates why the women look down on her. I also cant wait til Monique is gone. All these hyper street ppl can crawl back in their holes. I don't watch Potomac for that. Otherwise I'd watch jerry Springer and BBC.
@@yeswe_buy_houses1805 THANK YOU!!!!! Exactly!!! I completely agree w your comments. Ignorance is so damn common these days, wayyyy more common than common sense. Most of these Monique stans are truly sick and need counseling. 🤦🏾♀️
I’m curious about when the confessionals are filmed. Because really Monique was the first person SHOWN to mention this rumor, but she wouldn’t say what it was. I think production then went and asked other cast members about the rumors and that’s when Giselle said what she said. I think Monique was trying to befriend G to try and keep her from spilling the beans. What I can’t understand is why she’s mad at everybody on the show when it was her friend who started the mess!.
I just wish Monique would keep it 💯 and just admit she has pent up hurt and anger and Candice got the brunt of it. I wouldn't try to "clean it up" or "control the narrative", if you're straight up about your mistakes and flaws no one can use them against you.
@@latasiatatum5996 Monique has apologized repeatedly, went to therapy & sought guidance from her pastor. Monique has taken accountability and her lumps. I've not seen the same level from Candiace
@@lumiere7216 I’m aware that’s what I was asking the op Monique has taking accountability of her actions that she feels she needs to take responsibility for Candice has done none. I’ve watched both reunions and was like why is Candice taunting her she doesn’t have to be afraid of her but don’t provoke her
@@latasiatatum5996 she could just be baiting Candiace into showing her true hand. If she has an Ace up her sleeve then it's time to play it & put the whole fight to rest. IDK - that's just my opinion
I am so glad Monique showed up to finally give her side of the fight. And the producers are showing that Monique is right in her description. And *a criminal judge who saw all of the video has already decided: the fight was mutual combat.* Case closed and case dismissed.
It's obvious that Ashley and Michael have an arrangement. The biggest issue I have with Michael is he is consistently touching people without consent. If he were a man caught gropping a woman as many times as he has, there would be outrage. For some reason, the conversation is always about his sexuality when it in reality most people shouldn't even care. This is why men of sexual assault don't come forward.
I'm over the fight.
At this point, there are several instances and i think the men he has done this to should make a case against him
Exactly! They can do whoever they want with CONSENT!!!
And he does it over and over and the show does nothing! Lawsuits and multiple instances and they do not one thing. It's ridiculous.
@@calinola7957 I definitely don't think he is as rich as Ashley thinks. The fact that she doesn't have access to the money but he gives her a monthly allowance lets me know she out of the loop. Her mother was living under a bridge, she didn't grow up with a lot but whatever Michael has was more than she was used to. She claim they don't have a prenup anymore, just because he said he got rid of it doesn't mean he did. She is going to be just like Dr. Dre wife. She don't want Michael, she popping kids out for security, yet throwing shade at Candace because she married a non-wealthy white man. I do think some of the girls are jealous of Candace's upbringing, they married money but her Black parents created generational wealth for their kids.
@@calinola7957 I do feel like they are not as wealthy as Ashley would have us to believe. But I think she is completely in it for the long haul. I think she doesn't mind the fuckery and it will be awhile, if ever, before she leaves Michael.
When Monique said she attacked Candiace because she pushed her and Gisselle said it was her who pushed Monique to break up the fight, did anyone notice how Monique quickly kept changing her story on why she went upside Candiace head.
I hate how they glossed over Gizelle pushing Monique from that angle... it was already escalating with the two ladies and I felt that shove (while it may have been well intended in the moment) just kicked it up a notch
@@RealNaturalHairGuru No it didn't. Monique had already decided to fight Candiace.
@@RealNaturalHairGuru she was already touching candiace. That’s when Giselle touch her
@@RealNaturalHairGuru Monique had already touched Candiace's hair twice that's why Gizelle pushed her away. No, Monique was angry because the other girls were laughing when Candiace was twirling around and Monique didn't like it.
Monique has definitely studied that fight to the T and knows it blow by blow. She needed to come up with a reason for ponding Candiace’s head in. Studying that video over and over helped her clean up her narrative because her story has always been all over the place. It’s all very calculated.
She studied it but she still sees what she wants to see. She clearly is continually justifying her actions. Candiace did not have her hand in that girls face. When you watch it, Monique says get your hand out my face and Candiace said your hand is in my face. Monique finds any one thing to latch onto in order to try to make herself be justified.
But the calculations dont add up. Monique still coming up with the number 4 as her answer and the answer is bitch you wrong just own up to it
I couldn't agree more monique was my favourite but know I look at her sideways not saying candice is an angel but come on girl admit what you did was wrong!
That's what Funky Dineva said, go to 24:02-25:52 of his review and listen. But before I hear his review. I had thought about that on Sunday night listening to her.
I can't understand why people act like the footage justifies Monique's actions smh Everything she said happened, happened after her initial contact. They both were talking with their hands, Candace only got closer after Monique flicked her hair, Giselle armed pushed Monique (she even admitted she thought it was Candace), the glass came as you had Candace head almost completely on the table, Candace was blindly swinging. I don't even care for Candace but people's hate for her is clouding their common sense.
Michael Darby is a predator. He needs to go.
Monique never liked Candiace. That’s why she didn’t sit down and speak to her as a friend to address whatever issues she had. That’s why she continued to pick at Candiace for 5 episodes. Meanwhile Candiace is apologizing and walking away b/c she’s extending grace to her “friend.” So while Candiace is mourning a friendship Monique doesn’t give a damn that’s why there’s such a drastic difference in their reactions.
PERFECTLY PUT. You said it all.
No lies detected.. 👍🏾
I’m so glad I watched rox video bc I feel she’s not as biased she sees all sides and so does her subscribers.. yes candiace gotta mouth on her but on RHOA that’s deemed as a good thing! Being able to read somebody and use your words but on RHOP it’s a different set of rules I guess smh
More than one physical altercation has taken place on RHOA not to mention the other franchises. This was the first on on RHOP.
Omg someone that sees the light. I been ready to unsubscribe from some ppl because the spew so much venom toward Candiace like Monique has been angelic.
I don’t get why Karen keeps sticking up for Ashley when she doesn’t do that for Karen, and talks ish about her.
I agree with u and ur rox star she came up with an excuse for every motion Candice made. What still boggles my mind is that she keeps trying to find a reason to blame Candice and never admitted her wrongdoing to Candice or apologized. She played a part and she keeps changing her story
Candace haven't taken responsibility for her actions either and if i was Monique I wouldn't apologize, for what? Candace didn't apologize to her for the foul shit she's said
Monique probably want to drag her again to be honest
Monique is the queen of changing stories. Look at how she plotted & got ahead of the season by using lies & manipulation. It's interesting how her stans still don't hold her accountable for ANYTHING. I'm interested to see how long she can hold on without real deep dive therapy. She's a ticking time bomb! Everything her Pastor told her was spot on.
@@mitchellchevis1487 what “foul shit” did Candiace say to Monique?
@@mitchellchevis1487 u like to lie huh?
Thank you Rox,she studied that fight and came up with reasons as to why she did what she did.First it’s Candiace mouth,now it’s something else.And Candiace hand wasn’t directly under neck,nor was her she tossing broken glasses around
It was Candiace's mouth alright. She thought Candiace was about to tell all of her business and embarass the hell out of her, and she couldn't take it.
I wish the fight never happened because it has not only altered the cast's lives but the show in its entirety and the fandom.
But why though? I feel like this situation is so overblown. It wasn’t even a real fight. No punches thrown, no faces slapped. Hair was pulled. It was a situation, but not one that deserves this much time and attention.
It’s also divided a nation. You’re either team Monique or team Candiace. It’s really interesting.
Yes I wish Monique had control
@@Strawberryfearsforever It was an attack, not just on a person but on reality itself. Someone has intentionally gaslighted the audience with lies and misdirection for a year now. And what’s worse is her efforts seem to have worked.
@@tamgen9319 wasn’t that serious. Think some people need to take a break from “reality “ tv and chill in reality for a minute.🤷🏽♀️
Rox, I appreciate you. You are one of the few people that accurately discussed what happened on this reunion. You actually have sense and are level headed. Conversations around RHOP have been irking my damn nerves. I'm glad it's almost over.
I just want Monique to explain why she fought Candiace, of all people, when Candiace was the one who alerted her via Karen (their mutual friend) of the plot. You would think Candiace was the least important person in the plot. That's the biggest thing that I don't understand.
I think there’s 2 different things going on. Monique fought Candiace because after weeks of all this tension, both of them couldn’t stand each other anymore. I think what you are wondering is why did Monique stop liking Candiace
Monique also said on her live that Candiace told her about the plot as well but she didn’t tell her right away. So yeah Monique is a ball of confusion.
Yeah I'm with you on that. Especially after Candiace helped her to silence GiGi by writing a statement.
She never liked Candiace.
Monique keeps saying things were happening behind the scenes, but won’t say what they were. I can’t begin to see things her way without a better explanation.
When Andy says that the rumors "weren't on the show" I think he means that despite Charisse showing up, she never said anything about Monique on camera. The only reason why Gizelle was able to talk about it in her confessionals was because Monique made her problems with Charisse known on camera while eating with Gizelle (and in her confessionals). If Monique didn't make it an issue then the producers never would've asked Gizelle or her about it. Monique played herself.
But did that really matter that we did see that part the point it happen it didn’t air but it happen and she has the right to be upset
@@latasiatatum5996 It does matter because Monique "point" was that Gizelle wanted to bring it to the show - that didn't happen. And Monique was trying to be her friend at the start of the season anyway. So, whats her point in bringing up something that happened 2 years ago.
I think what he meant was that although they mention the trainer no one ever mentioned the babies paternity
Am I the only one disgusted by Karen dismissing Michael's assault on men so she could take another swipe at Gizelle? It was so icky. Michael should be banned from the show, but Karen has to make everything about Gizelle. BTW, I think Monique definitely destroyed the footage that showed Michael grabbing the other man, and that's why Ashley wrote the letter. I also think Monique watched the footage of the fight and catered her story to the video especially as her initial comments conflict with her new version.
Why Karen is so loyal to Ashley is beyond me. Ashley dragged her worse than anyone and still hasn’t apologized and for Karen to be a rape survivor and is ok with Michael is strange to me.
@@Bloooooooooooppp Karen wants to stay on the show. She knows her anti-Gizelle comments are a big reason she's on the show. I just thought she'd knock them off long enough to put Michael in his place. IT just goes to show what fame will do to someone (ironic considering Karen's criticism of Gizelle).
No you are not. I am over her and her blatant lies too.
She's dismissive about Michael's predatory behavior so she can lick Ashley's booty and Ashley doesn't even like her. 🙄🙄
Karen was wrong for dismissing Micheal’s assault on these men. I don’t blame her for coming at Giselle. Giselle has come for Karen sooo hard since season 1
Monique is a liar who does not take accountability for her actions. I've said it over and over and over again. She so wants to be who she TRULY is but feels she has married "up" and has to put on a front. I can look at Chris' mama and tell that he's not "up" but, you know, to each his own. In truth, he's just as gutter as she is...just with money now. Truthfully, I'd probably respect Monique more if she'd just keep it real about the situation instead of attempting to perpetrate this lie that she knows damn well is a LIE.
Thank you Rox for gifting us while on vacay 😍Enjoy your family as well😘
I think it's time for me to close the door on this show as a viewer, honestly. The toxicity and animosity from the viewers is quite disgusting to see and hear. I just saw someone say that because Candiace "attempted to violently attack Ashley with a knife last year," Ashley would have been justified in calling the police so they could come and shoot Candiace like a dog. I also saw where people said Chris Samuels would be justified in putting his hands on the other ladies after this season. Really?!?
It's funny how these reality shows reveal so much about the people who watch them. I loved the light-hearted, classy-adjacent shade and the fun trips overseas during the last few seasons. However, it's obvious that era is over now. The show has turned a dark corner, and I'm no longer interested in seeing where it heads from here.
Agreed! People have their favourites but the outright vileness of those stans is despicable. Now anytime the ladies (other than Monique) say anything even if its valid - its a problem 🙄
It’s like the fans are personally vested, and this stuff isn’t even entirely real.
Very true and even if it is completely real. My goodness, dont people are taking it way too personal. May goodness, i am over the fight. I dont care if Candace sheds another tear or Monique apologizes. New story line is needed.
I absolutely agree, Monique fans are like Trump supporters. They do not listen to reason, truly scary. They leave violent irrational comments and have ruined the show!
I cannot wrap my head around celebrity obsession. Grown ass women are screaming they are ‘team such and such’. It’s honestly sad.
THANK GOD FOR YOU!! Monique reversed engineered that fight to suit her answers. She said she’s watched it 100s of times. She is a liar! Like, just say you wanted to fight her because you wanted to fight her. Candiace does talk to much, but she didn’t deserve to get beat up. I’m so over this fight. OVER IT!
She didn’t get beat up and the footage does show that Candice wasn’t innocent in the fight. It is not like Monique just went up to Candice and punched her in the face for no reason. Candice was running her mouth and didn’t respect Monique’s space. They were both at fault for this fight.
@@trinarenae7735 Space? There was a TABLE between them. Candace waved her hand but it never showed how far out she did it. Monique touched her hair first (I doubt she saw the hand gesture) and made it physical. Yes, Candace talks too much but you’re weak if at 37 people’s words make you want to fight. IJS.
@@trinarenae7735 DIDN'T Monique SAY on camera, while speaking to her pastor that "Candiace didn't deserve that"?
You're literally defending the indefensible.
@@traceyigwe4705 right!! Monique debunked that whole "well she said this, and her hand did that" story when she confessed to her pastor that nothing that Candiace did warranted that.. She is a walking contradiction
Candiace doesn't talk any more than the rest of them. She just out wits them.
Monique is full of it. I'm glad Andy called her out
I guess Gizelle get a pass.
You are such a natural beauty. I love listening to you it's soothing. And like you I'm done.
Yeah..... It's the soothing voice for me!
Amen
Yes i agree for sure. Rox, we need a podcast mext
Candace wants an apology. Monique is too childish to do so. Monique is a silly woman. Candace needs to let this whole thing go and move on and carry mace.
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Monique is listening to lawyers not caring what viewers think she should do. If you have charges pressed against u it’s not a good idea to admit guilt by apologizing. Candace would have gotten an apology if she didn’t involve the courts. Ijs
Candiace does not want an apology. She wants subjugation, and dominance. You can't get that from grown adults. That may work on her husband, but there is no one on that show that going to offer her that. Also, she want to forever be the victim and that is not what an adult should want.
@@TanukiOfficial I don't agree with you at all. It's sad that you are against a black woman getting an apology for being assaulted. I guess black lives matter only if you don't cry and demand respect. You have it all backwards and it's sad.
I agree with you completely. Monique’s anger was totally misdirected and she went after the weakest person.
Monique is a bully. That’s what they do.
Monique ain’t no damn bully. Y’all really need to stop. The girl just had a damn breaking point and Candace big ass mouth pressed that button that we all have. Some ppl will snap n slap the shit outta u and some just cry. It’s obvious majority of these anti Monique comments are coming from a jealous place. Candace ass is crazy asf her mama be ready to knock her out but Monique the problem? Y’all need to stop it and realize no matter how much u dislike Monique...Candace is still immature and crazy.
I think Monique studied the fight too... but I do t think the playback proved her right. There was only one part of the video that matched what she said, and the rest was different from what she said. So she is full of it and she knows it. She might as well take accountability and apologize.
We all know she won’t do that. That would taint her fake perfect image & make her look like she was in the wrong. Monique is full of shit.
No Rox Monique brought up the rumor in her confessional. She wouldn't tell the producers what the rumor is that Charrise was spreading. Then the producers ASKED everyone during confessional taping what is the rumors about Monique and they only showed Gizelle. Remember the confessional taping is after the show was filmed. Monique Samuels motor mouth brought her own rumor on the show to justify what she did to Candiace...lol
Edited: Monique also lied and said that Gizelle mentioned her baby in the taping...I have receipts...lol That's all I'm saying 🤣 😂 🤷🏾♀️
I have a issue yes the Gigi thing was bad but let us not forget that Ashley said Monique was a drunk and that is how she lost her baby. But Monique forgave that so what is different about the others.
Maybe the fact that they haven't apologized?🤨
Philippe Nsangou I wouldn't forgive any of them Ashley included.
@@Jbsayzwhat and that is ur very right but I was just tellin u that that is the difference
Philippe Nsangou No I see your point. But Candiace was not part of the plot.
Right! Monique just wanted and needed to find somebody to pick on and candiace was an easy target seeing that a lot of ppl don’t like her for what ever reason
“Plot” happened Jan. 2019 (8 months before filming) yet Monique invites Gizelle to her home around Chris and the baby AND talks about befriended Gizelle.
I'm still thoroughly confused about that whole scenario
I’m pretty sure she did that because they are filming a show. It would have been a bigger issue if she didn’t want to film with Giselle at the beginning of the season because she would have been deemed as difficult
Her fake ass probably thought Giselle wasn’t going to mention it
I agree with Rox... Candiace needs to toughen up with this group of women. She will need to be able to turn off her emotions instantly. She is sensitive because her feelings regarding her friendship with Monique were pure. But, it was not reciprocated. She is HURT. I’ve been there and I’ve learned. She will learn also. But, she needs to learn before next season. I don’t want to see any tears next season. If she needs to cry she need to wait until the camera stops rolling and cry in the car on the way home. Period.
I hear what you're saying but ppl keep complaining that black women are not feminine or soft. I think she is also entitled to showing her emotions is anger the only one dimension we have. She will learn but its good to see her process her emotions. Either way both of them are exhausting to me, the show was fun/escape and now it's toxic. I don't watch any of the other shows where grown women fight so I wasn't expecting this from Potomac.
I completely agree! I have emotions like Candice & I can’t stand it. All that crying is ridiculous! I know because I do it!! I feel like it invalidates my feelings & the point I am trying to make. I need to toughen up & so does Candice... it’s the truth. 🤷🏽♀️ Let me say I do NOT have her mouth!! If I did and I got beat up 🤕 then I’m just going to have to take my beating & get over it. 😤 IJS
If Monique keeps a binder of all the cast and their secrets, what makes us think NO VIDEO exists of Michael touching that camera man in her basement. And Karen and Ashley better watch out when a person keeps written receipts of people secrets soon they WILL turn on you too.
That video definitely exists. Monique kept the video under wraps. That is part of the reason why Ashley feels an allegiance to Monique.
Yup thats why Ashley rides so hard for Monique I been peeped that. Mo and Chris know what went down in that basement👀
Im so disappointed in Karen. Candace lost TWO ”close friends” this season because Karen really acted like she truly cares for Candace but now Karen is all about staying up Ashley and Monique’s asses. It’s really sad and has to be so hurtful to Candace.
Candiace NEVER went after Monique it was always Ashley
Gurl u watch Erica?
@@-Epiphany when Candiace started shading Ashley it was after Ashley was calling her "big" sis a drunk and obviously it backed fired because everyone said she was doing too much including her "big" sis Monique and yes I also do watch the Diva
As well as Rodney da Voice 😂😂
Its funny how y'all make fun of Candace crying over a friendship ending in being attacked as weak. She needs to toughen up. Yet Monique the one who resulted to pulling hair is seen as strong 💪. Why? Monique has basically said Candace mouth is what made her snap and other lies. Isn't that being weak? People are literally saying Candace words are so bad that she needs an ass whooping. Which one is it? Crying is not a sign of weakness. Please black people get out of that stereotypical mess.
Great point!
I feel like you’re literally the only commentator who isn’t drinking Monique’s kool aid.
One of a few. You can count them on one hand.
Rodney tha voice, and my OTHER girl, Erica Dinero TV
It's more than Rox. Not to plug myself but I have the same feelings as my good sis.
And The Brooke Ashley
TheImagine91 She is all on her neck
Monique did a lot of lying behind the scenes to bloggers about what happened in the fight and "allegedly" paid bloggers to report the details of the fight in her favor. Candiace has every right to be upset because monique also had a hand in those same bloggers and fans attacking candiace and saying horrible things to and about her. Monique's friend GG went on live last night and cleared up some info about how monique has been acting. GIGI said that monique changed and that she was inappropriate with the trainer which caused problems with Chris. The women never plotted to expose Monique, they were gossiping about monique for sure but, never plotted to expose her. When gizelle talked about the trainer rumor, I think its because production asked her about it. If you care to get the info that clears up this fight and all, check out alltruetea on IG.
The ladies were plotting there is a whole video of Candice talking about it in detail. She even said Gigi called all the ladies shopping the story around.
Exactly...that's what I don't like is how Monique filtered the story to the bloggers to be one sided which caused Candiace to be bullied on social media. I don't understand why Monique wanted 2 years to bring this up when this happened at Andy's baby shower.
This is one of the best reviews of the reunions you've given so far. This was very fair, logical, easy to digest. What do you think about her best friend Gigi spilling more tea about her on UA-cam?
I agree! I can"t even stomach to watch some of the others!
@@1hottlady I have been skipping alot of bias reviews
Siding with the "fan favorite" gives you more views smh
@@k.wyattwyatt5800 I don't think that she cited with anyone. I think she was very fair and logical. There was no bias this involved, which made the entire review easier to digest. Roxy is not hurting for views we got her. Some of us will watch her videos twice... Why? Because we got her!
@@HPSumsItUp I was talking about other Ytbers, but yeah I ❤ Rox!
I like Monique but I still can't figure out why she had all the smoke for Candice but had nothing for Charrisse...If Charisse had started a rumor about my child's paternity, it would have been on sight the next time I saw her.
Monique's not a total fool, she knows Charrisse can hold her own. Candiace was an easy target.
I'm still waiting for Monique to be on Iyanla lol. 😂😂
What's funny is I I think I post that on twitter except I said Iyanla should come to the show to help mend the broken fences. I mean because this show is going down a dark road. Everybody trying to do tit for tat!
They already had shown the season finale of Iyanla’s show. And that was the last season. So Monique won’t be able to be on it lol.
😂😂😂😂omg yes!she needs a beloved moment 😭
This would be perfection
Monique was scared of facing Charrisse on camera because she knew how grimy they did Gizelle....she was scared of that karma.
Why didn’t Monique do this Binder 2 years ago when the rumor started?
I have a feeling her notebook has nothing else in it
@@yeswe_buy_houses1805 Agreed. The Binder was for Giselle.
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Monique did a live talking about the tabs in her binder
I think if someone isn’t used to fighting, never been in a fight, they're going to be traumatized for a while after their first fight.
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Candiace's eyelashes were a bit much for me. I thought they were going to flutter off.
I appreciate you taking time from your holiday to make this review. As always your review was spot on. Enjoy your time off and Merry Christmas!
Very funny that Monique didn’t beat up Gigi. The actual person that wants to ruin her family 😂
Moniques whole better than everybody attitude is what makes her unlikable for me. The way she responded about the money was so unpleasant to hear. If the money is so little and inconsequential then why are you on the show? It's the way she scoffs at things like she's above it when she's out here fighting like a gutter snipe.
I think Monique does that because she is New Money and it shows. People who are used to money don’t talk about it.
Ooohhh not a gutter snipe LMAOoooo
@@SirenRising I'm so sick of her better than everyone attitude. She's no different. She makes nasty comments on the side constantly but plays the victim. She's very troubled and insecure.
But isn’t that the point of the show??? She fits the profile of what they look for this show. Would you want to watch broke housewives??
She responded that way because Andy was really shading her husband. He was trying to count Chris’s coins. It’s like he was surprised Chris was still doing well post retirement for an ex NFL player
Great review as usual! Glad I found this channel. I have been watching RHOP since it started and this season was very entertaining but also annoying bc of how polarizing it was. Glad it will be over next week. I think you did a great job with being fair to all the ladies and being hilarious with your voices at the same time 😂 Happy Holidays to you and your family!
Enjoy your time with your family!!! And Happy Birthday 🖤
Monique story has changed all this time from IG, Andy’s show, and any other time...just stand up in it and say I fought the girl and I ain’t sorry. All that fake crying in the season about being sorry and then talking bad in the confessionals make you look fake.
I like the fact that you review the show and go about your business.
Honestly, Monique did get played by Gizelle. Sure, she could have squashed the Charisse issue with Candiace with a simple conversation but she let Gizelle pump her head up that Candiace was befriending Charisse on purpose.
That vacay is agreeing with you, Rox! You look so refreshed, & beautiful per usual 🤗🤗. Happy Holidays to you & your family.🎄🎄🎄
Thanks for being so matter of fact about this show. A lot of others are getting so up in arms about rhop that it makes the watching experience cringy. They forget that this is mostly for play- play. Merry Christmas!
I said the same thing. You can tell Monique studied the fight video so she could try to justify her poor actions. Her story kept changing about what happened leading up to and during the fight. I believe she really did black out during the fight and didn't remember what happened. Then studied the fight in preparation for the reunion to try to defend herself. I think she should have just taken responsibility for her actions instead of looking for excuses.
Andy was out of line with his trashy question to Karen about her husband
When is he ever in line. He's such a shady beotch.
No he wasn't if Karen said it on camera..........and she did. So she can cut the offended act. She is not some classy Christian woman.
I can’t say this enough but I come to this channel because you, Rox,
are unbiased and mature. You are intelligent and funny and matter of fact. Thank you!! 🙏🏼♥️🙏🏼
I may be by myself with this one but I think that Candiace is hurt, not just because of the fight but because of the loss of a relationship. The fact that it’s a situation that she feels they cannot come back from bothers her. She has too much pride to express her disappointment, admit her role in the situation and admit her mouth gets her in trouble at times. Instead she’s doubling down on the victim role because it has snowballed out of control, it’s working for her and because she has the other castmates riding for her. Even when they were saying “no that didn’t happen” when the footage was replayed, Candiace looked so uncomfortable. You can tell she was biting the heck outta her jaw but didn’t say a word because she knew it would make her look bad to eat crow thus recommitting back to the victim role and removing herself from the line of fire.
She needs to stop taunting Monique tho
I also think she is embarrassed and the internet bullying from the public doesn't help. I watched a little of Gigi's live, she said Monique and Candace were real friends. Gigi said, when she called Candace to talk to her about their fallout, Candace was team Monique. I do think she needs to find a way to deal if she is going to be on reality tv. Gigi said, she's surprised that Monique and Ashley are friends because Monique brought Gigi on the show to beat up Ashley for the drinking and driving rumors Ashley started.
@@TomiyeTv I agree. If Candiace doesn’t get a hold of her emotions and the current direction of her reality tv personality/career, I fear her future will look something like Tamar’s.
@@latasiatatum5996 agreed!
Nobody tells Kandi to toughen up and she stays crying.
You’re right! Kandi cry’s for nothing sometimes
@@herchels9796 girl bye. She be crying at the drop of a hat over nothing.
ALL THE TIME!!!! But people LOOOOVE Kandi. 🤷🏾♀️🤷🏾♀️ But for some reason Candace needs to “suck it up”. 🙄
So true if she's not crying then her voice is quivering, I'm confused.
Remember when Robyn saw Charisse at Candiace's party Robyn said why is Charisse here. When did Candiace and Charisse become friends. When Candiace decided to file charges I'm sure Monique's lawyer dissected that video. You can't be mad at Monique for being prepared.
Charisse was at Candiaces event the same reason why she was at Ashley’s 🤷🏽♀️
Exactly sis no one pays good money for an attorney to get bad advice.
Also, Gizelle brought it to Monique saying that Candiace invited Charisse as if Candiace did something wrong.
Monique got played like a fiddle this entire season. Instead of addressing her issues with the source (Candiace), she put way too much emphasis on the information that the "run tell that" crew said (Ashley's bitch ass, Gizelle's dumb ass, and to some degree Karen's old ass). If Monique would have just addressed Candiace, and if Candiace addressed Monique, all this BS would have never went down.
Monique gave Candace what she couldn't give GIGI and Sharisse. It wasn't right. She just wanted to fight. Period.
The rumor was that Monique’s son wasn’t Chris. That was what they were saying never made it to the show. Gizelle did bring up the cheating rumors but I don’t blame her after Monique kinda ruined her relationship with Sherman
Thank you! People are getting confused about which rumors.
Production really brought the rumor to the show by asking Giselle. They asked Monique and she wouldn't elaborate. When they asked Robin, she just said rumors but Giselle gave a little more but still nothing about paternity of a child. I think Monique forgets about the Sherman incident despite Chris making her apologize to him.
If Gizelle is going to be mad at Monique over Sherman, then she also needs to be mad at Charisse too!! That was something that Charisse and Monique were in on together because Charisse was mad at Gizelle for telling the world she was sleeping with the fireman!!
@@kksisters7092 Charisse didn’t tell everyone about what happened with Sherman in the park. That was all Monique which was why Sherman didn’t want to have anything to do with the show anymore.
@@headhuncho2520 Charisse had Monique do her dirty work!!
Giselle only brought up the affair Monique may have had twice. She wasn’t bringing it up constantly. Also the big thing was the trainer being the father of Chase or another baby she lost. That never made it to the show. It wasn’t some plot. If the girls wanted to plot it would have made the show and Karen couldn’t do anything about it.
Monique is on a video crying about that dumb bird but when Candiace cried about you bashing her head, Monique is like, 'I can't '.
Shit pissed me off. Then she's like, "I'm not built like that'. But you're built to cry over a bird? Not your friend, a whole human being but a bird? I almost called Monique a dumb b#$%h but I'm better than that.😑
Thank you! I did not clock that until you mentioned it. She was also boo-hooing about being bullied 30 years ago...she's built like that!
Gizelle starts all the trouble and is praised. People always say she is so pretty. Gizelle got all the girls in check. Big sister almighty!
You’re glowing gurl! That vacation and hubby are doing you right! Lol
You deserve it✨ Happy Holidays ✨
Michael and Juan were on a romantic weekend away together.
I know Sis didn’t take her time to put that thick binder together to only use it once on Gizelle. According to her; EVERYBODY had a tab in the binder, including her friends Karen and Ashley. I wanna hear it all!
I swear if they bring up this fight next season I’m gonna be pissed.
Yes. I really hope they don't bring this up next season. So over it.
Well and I will be pissed if they have Monique back. She has really damaged the dynamic of the show in my opinion.
@@chica4530 this how I been felt about big sister almighty Giselle
Monique was nasty. Plain and simple.
Who isn't on this show babe? ;-)
Im with you! Im so over this. Im ready for this to be over and I hope we get some new blood next season. Unbiased, fun folk. This season was too negative to be watching during covid
Thanks Rox! Candiace has to stop crying and Monique needs to not be so arrogant. And she for sure studied that fight to get her story straight. Before that, her lies were all over the place. And leaking falsehoods and fallacies to the bloggers was wrong as hell. I need these ladies to tighten up.
We over Andy!
What has Candace said to Monique that was so bad?
Your Karen impression reminds me of George's insufferable mother, mother Jefferson ol miserable behind😆
Yesssss!!! Now I can't unsee or unhear it 🤣🤣🤣🤣
I knew her impression reminded me of somebody. Spot on!!!
😂😂😂
Hilarious and True!!!! 😂😂
Happy Birthday Rox!!! Have a Happy Holidays!!
Omg! Jayda’s twin for sure! Have fun in Utah!
Fr. Lol. Proves when you beautiful. You just beautiful. No matter the shade. 💯🍀🥰
Right I soon as I opened the video I said Dang Jayda look just like her Mama!
Hey Roxy thank you for the videos have a Merry Christmas and a Happy Birthday. You and the family be safe.🎂🎁🍷💙
It's interesting how Monique did a video on her binder sections. When she talked about her security monitors, I find it REALLY hard to believe the camera's didn't work. She kept saying "we paid close to $10k to upgrade our security monitors." Upgrading them is different from "they weren't working". They threw money away ($250k) on that not for lazy mom's crap and the security camera's didn't work??😳
And did you notice that she didn’t get them “fixed” until February 2020..it’s like she got them “fixed” just so she can put that receipt in her binder
@@unapologeticallymestephani3420 Exactly!!!
The only thing I can say about Monique is nobody can make her apologize if she doesn’t want to, and that’s not justifying her putting her hands on Candiace BUT for everyone to sit around and make her feel like she should cry or feel bad is a waste of time. She has a nonchalant attitude and that’s just something that comes from her personality 🤷🏽♀️
But the the thing she has to accept is that her unwillingness to apologize makes folk not want to hang with her.
@@Salutations26 Yes I agree.
Agreed she should only apologize if it's truthful and genuine. However Idk if that's even possible since Candiace filed the criminal charges even though they were dismissed. A lawyer would advise for Monique not to admit guilt on camera because she could file a civil suit and use it against her.
@@Mloveblacque_always I honestly think Monique will not apologize regardless. It’s just gonna be worst before it turns semi ok with them, like how it was with Kenya and Porsha.
@@kiarahill4302 agreed
I loved Candiace and every side comment she made ... Monique bullied that girl and still does it through social media id be on her neck too ❗️🤷🏽♀️
I absolutely loved your review. The only commentator that has sense. Bless Monique heart.....
Rocky said, I’m sick of RHOP and I’m sick of y’all 🤣🤣 🤣
Thanks for the review. Enjoy time with your family. Merry Christmas
Arrangement/open relationship to the side. Michael needs to chill with grabbing on people against their will. Smh it’s crazy.
Grab em by the booty tease.
Rox, enjoy your vacation!!! We'll get let's talk about it and top of the blogs when you're done.
Review was good, i wish that Candice didn’t walk off the show and could’ve just sat thru it, she needed to have the same guard up like Gizzelle 😹
im surprised andy didn't ask a follow up question about who slept with katie to see what the reactions would have been. Question- is michael still able to be around all the producers after so many allegations because of white privilege?
Thank you for this level minded view!
You are absolutely right about Candace, And and Karen is old school so she is not going to talk about much in public... but privately she will talk about it.... The next episode seems like the meat of the episode, it’s gonna be interesting 🤔 🧐
MASCULINITY 🗣 in my Alex voice lol
Enjoy your Christmas holiday Roxanne & family!😁🥰 💒 🎄
RoxStars, we are so lucky. Rox is a gem!
Thank you!
Somebody musted have yelled up to Roxanne that the breakfast was getting cold. She ended this video so abruptly. Merry Christmas 🎄🎁
To me the Footage showed Monique Lied and over exaggerate certain happenings. The production team was showing Monique was over exaggerating that what they was doing. Rox when Andy was saying it wasn't bought up on the son he means the Baby Part wasn't. Remember No one not even Giselle mention the baby.
You are correct. No one mentioned the baby not being her husband's on the show. Rox got that confused for sure. lol
I love your impression of Karen...😆
Thank you Rox for schooling the girls about Andy...lol 😆 🤣 😂
I loved the housewives but this is the first season that I’ve really have been so over it. I used to like Monique but this fight situation really made me change how I feel about her. I think it will take a while but she will look back on this and regret doing it. Nothing that Candace said or did warranted a physical response no matter how she spins it. Candace is the smallest thing- nothing about her is threatening. Monique had every opportunity to walk away if she was feeling so threatened by little old Candace! I do agree that Candace has to toughen up and stop all this crying but I think certain populations of black people cant wrap their head around the fact that not all black women are fighters! For some that is not their reality and it’s ok that Candace feels some type of way for having been in this situation which is very public and embarrassing on both sides. For people saying Candace deserve it because of her mouth are hypocrites because they are on line talking shit the same way she does. So by their logic these Internet bullies also deserve an ass beating for running their mouths as well. I am so over this season! I hope they don’t bring back Monique and get back to the fun shade! This is too much! Happy Birthday Rox, enjoy your vacay!!!
Thank you for saying what has been in my head for the last few weeks! The physical altercation, book of receipts, ugh, all unnecessary.
I just wish that Monique would forgive Candace and also apologize for coming after her. I don't think Candace did anything to deserve what took place. Candace don't need to be on the show she has some emotional issues that need to be cleared up. I kind of feel sorry for her. It seems like she is still getting a beat down whether it is physical or mental.
Omg ty!! They think we're all like them walking around with vaseline and cornrows fighting for dumb sh!t when someone upsets us? Talking about our hood...what's wrong with these ppl? They act like they never left their block to integrate with the regular world. Not everyone Black is fighting all day.
It's sad and Monique and her fandom's insistence that 'talking too much" warrants that kind of animalistic response only validates why the women look down on her.
I also cant wait til Monique is gone. All these hyper street ppl can crawl back in their holes. I don't watch Potomac for that. Otherwise I'd watch jerry Springer and BBC.
@@yeswe_buy_houses1805 THANK YOU!!!!! Exactly!!! I completely agree w your comments. Ignorance is so damn common these days, wayyyy more common than common sense. Most of these Monique stans are truly sick and need counseling. 🤦🏾♀️
Well said
Yeah, they say Katie was with Charisse. I would’ve bet money that Juan and Robyn ran a train on Katie, too. I’d have lost that bet
Whoa! She was the one housewife I wouldn't have thought would have slept with Katie.
🤣🤣🤣🤣
I don't blame you Rox😁 It became exhausting for me. Happy Birthday & Merry Christmas🎊
you look really renewed and refreshed in this video.
I’m curious about when the confessionals are filmed. Because really Monique was the first person SHOWN to mention this rumor, but she wouldn’t say what it was. I think production then went and asked other cast members about the rumors and that’s when Giselle said what she said. I think Monique was trying to befriend G to try and keep her from spilling the beans.
What I can’t understand is why she’s mad at everybody on the show when it was her friend who started the mess!.
No she wasn't! It was Gizelle! FOH!
Wow I'm surprised you even did a video. Don't worry about doing videos, just enjoy your time with your family.
I just wish Monique would keep it 💯 and just admit she has pent up hurt and anger and Candice got the brunt of it. I wouldn't try to "clean it up" or "control the narrative", if you're straight up about your mistakes and flaws no one can use them against you.
Didn’t she say that she had misplaced anger
@@latasiatatum5996 Monique has apologized repeatedly, went to therapy & sought guidance from her pastor. Monique has taken accountability and her lumps. I've not seen the same level from Candiace
@@lumiere7216 I’m aware that’s what I was asking the op Monique has taking accountability of her actions that she feels she needs to take responsibility for Candice has done none. I’ve watched both reunions and was like why is Candice taunting her she doesn’t have to be afraid of her but don’t provoke her
@@latasiatatum5996 she could just be baiting Candiace into showing her true hand. If she has an Ace up her sleeve then it's time to play it & put the whole fight to rest. IDK - that's just my opinion
@@lumiere7216 baiting her for what tho it’s playing out in Monique’s favor
Merry Christmas Everyone
I am so glad Monique showed up to finally give her side of the fight. And the producers are showing that Monique is right in her description. And *a criminal judge who saw all of the video has already decided: the fight was mutual combat.* Case closed and case dismissed.