If Microsoft signs an agreement that allows Sony to take action against Xbox users for improper conduct then I can see a possible cross platform environment. Let's go SoniiSoft
Greatest Swordsman bro they are saying about other games its logical since exclusives can't be cross played! I mean they said that cause they started cross play with Minecraft and other games that kids can play you idiot. Oh and play with PC players who can mod so easy and if your on an other console you can't do shit cause you can't ban them or do something just get your ass modded!
CookieGaming GR what sword tried to say was that sony saying stuff about "protecting the children" many all the games they excusivly own or have made are not kid friendly while microsoft many not have many either crossplatfroming will help them be more kid friendly since it with nintendo (the kid friendly company)...duh.....also u should go back to school so u can learn this kinda stuff
Darion Paul how is he racist and how do you know he has cancer? I'm a Sony fan but I don't know where you got the racist cancer kid part. And you don't know if he's a kid
"For the players". For the players my ass. This has to be one off the most selfish decisions Sony has ever made. Really to protect kids. If anything is us adults who needs to be protected from those 12 yr olds on COD and GTA tht swears like it's outta style.
Rootin Tootin Putin what does that have to do with now? That's the past, this is the present. If your still saying that I think ur stuck in the past :(
Rootin Tootin Putin 1.xbox head was runner by a different person 2.running cross platform on technology that most likely wouldn't handle it yet, and if it did i wouldn't run well and provide the link where xbox denied ps cross play or you're just pulling shit out of your ass
People don't want to play their PS3 shitty graphics games on their PS4. They want to pay a full 60$ so they can play the game they already own with slight graphical improvements.
I'm a Sony head all day, but seriously though, PS is acting like North Korea and shit here - trying to isolate all of it's members away from other communities.
No because Sony already has cross-play with PC in game like War Thunder, Final Fantasy, Paragon and Rocket League(Idk if there is more). They arent isolating PS users from any community.
In my opinion Xbox are doing this so they can bring PC games over to the Microsoft brand. Also I believe they're going to encourage all devs to create all their new games to also work on console which will be a win win for the Devs (more money) and Microsoft (more games labelled as exclusive)
John CR Smithton As a PC player, who can already play any x1 game I want without buying any of their outdated-at-launch hardware.. why would this bring me to their brand at all? Legitimate question. I see no reason for me to feel loyal to a brand, that wants to charge me $500 for a 'meh' PC, when I can play their "exclusive" titles without that hardware..
halo3odst yes, Xbox is moving to be a complete xbox/PC compatibility console/PC. basically Microsoft has been moving to Xbox on PC or PC games on Xbox for a long time. the biggest hurdle is making Xbox run PC quality games without over pricing the fans out. people want a console at am affordable rate, anything too expensive and they would rather buy a PC
John CR Smithton PC is Windows, which is Microsoft, as well. They need to move towards cross platform between those 2 so Microsoft isn't essentially competing with themselves.
Droogie128 that's what they're doing, I doubt they'll say at this stage but with players unknown being the first PC game on Xbox I'm sure many more are to come
Since we filmed/edited/thumbnailed/put loads of effort into this video, there's been a small development. The Minecraft dev says crossplay requires an Xbox login on other platforms. Interesting. Maybe that's why Sony backed out. What do you guys think?
Pretty Good Gaming honestly they should have just stuck to the stakeholder reasoning, would have been better than this 'Think of the Kids' arguement that's dead in the water
So the real reason why Sony wont allow this is because its just bad business on their part. Allowing cross platform play would remove their market advantage of having a larger community and share it with their direct competitors. It makes sense for microsoft and nintendo as they both have a smaller online community than Sony does in the current generation of consoles. However if Sony were to share their playerbase with Xbox it would remove a massive incentive to choose a Playstation over Xbox. Think about it, the most common cited reasons for choosing one over the other are either: more games, or because the community is larger/has your friends playing on it. This second reason would be completely moot if Sony shares their playerbase with their competition. Currently if you buy COD/Battlefield you want to go on the console that has the more active online multiplayer community and has your friends playing on it. With Sony currently winning the 'console war' and having ps4 sales dwarf Xbox One then Sony is the natural choice for online play. Personally I don't think they deserve any hate for this, its just good business. As far as the players, while you could say that we are getting slightly shafted by this decision you could also argue that a stronger position for Sony means more exclusives and development by the company which could lead to more benefits for the consumer/free content etc..... Although really it just leads to a bigger bonus for Sony executives.
Co p I disagree. They can't do whatever they want just because it is good business, they also have to look out for their consumer's satisfaction and not being able play with people on other platforms is very bad for ps4 users not to mention this all bad PR. That being said, Microsoft forcing Xbox live on other platforms seems also bit sketchy to me so I am not sure who is in the wrong here.
Cutter Elf the people like us who care about Minecraft cross play are a very small vocal minority and don't matter in the large scheme of things. The business side of things are insanely one-sided towards not included cross play, and especially for Sony..
We know why. Money. Cross play is potentially detrimental to Sony's profits in terms of the social communities and how the consoles purchased are usually determined by mass unity. In other words, if my friend has it, I want it so we can play together. And since Sony now has a generally more positive reputation, if Cross play is implemented, then there advantage is invalidated and Microsoft can effectively match or outweigh Sony in sales since it will no longer matter. Thats all it is and all it will ever be.
phoenixbarnes55 Very true, but wgat Sony fails to realize is that by refusing to support cross play, they give every other console the upper hand, because they are now the odd one out. Why get a Playstation when every other console supports cross play?
wow fanboy alert lol face it , it has better exclusives uncharted , last of us etc.... plus has all the games you play online with your friends are on ps aswell. what a saddo xbox fanboy u are i have both consoles aswell so deal with it
Basically Playstation has became so popular SONY don't think they need to bother with stuff like that anymore. Crossplatform? Eh who cares? Backwards Compatibility? LOL make them buy those games again instead.
Alibaba mentioning backwards compatibility just make playstation sound lazy for not making backwards compatibility, they even admitted that they didn't think it was possible on next gen consoles
They have also become so popular that their asses are getting hacked by their own players for this decision, we need someome to break GEOHOT outta jail. (Lil background on history, GEOHOT is the one dude who hack ps3 back in 2011 it was groundbreaking because he found a way to break through the architecure and such, im sure he can do it again)
Darknight He won't be out any time soon. And by then their security is going to be so different and so much better. I doubt he could make it happen again even if he wanted to.
Yes, but for some reason, because Sony is not allowing cross-play with Xbox players, you can not join a party with cross-platform friends, which sucks for everyone.
Caleb Bunch What you say is true, but there is still more to worry about, like exclusives. No doubt, Call of Duty is going to sell well this year. Sony gets the DLC 1 month early. So, if their friends are on PlayStation, they would feel a bit left out if they play on Xbox. I hate exclusives. They suck for everyone, whether they admit it or not. However, they are a big reason that people buy a certain console. On the other hand, people might go to PlayStation from Xbox because they no longer need to worry about playing with their friends on Xbox. Again, exclusives would play a large role in this decision. Psyonix is being lazy by not adding a way to join a part with my friends. I'm on PC. I can play with both Xbox and PS4 (Soon Nintendo as well) players, just not at the same time. There is no reason for them to not add a way for me to play with my friends on Xbox and PS4 on Rocket League. It's simply laziness.
Bad idea, the whole reason why most people choose one console other the other is to play with their friends so if cross play is allowed, that whole problem goes away
Deian Giurgev Xbox and PS servers are far more protected than PC servers. I can't tell you how many times I've encountered a hacker on PC games, but I can tell you how many times I've encountered a hacker on my Xbox: Once.
Deian Giurgev If you can't afford to pay $5 a month, you shouldn't even have an Xbox, or a good TV, or even a graphics card for a PC. So yeah, your logic is crap.
Deian Giurgev Hackers?! On console?! Woah! Color me surprised! I had no idea! It's not like I mentioned seeing a hacker while playing on console, but I suppose you lacked the time or ability (most likely the latter)to read through what I wrote. A report system? What a genius invention! What next, flying cars? Anyone with the correct organ within their skull knows what a report system is. But it is much weaker on PC than console. A brain dead pesant? I'm flattered. But the only one with a dead brain must be you, good sir. Else you would have know how to spell "peasant". But I suppose you could hurl generic insults at me and not use more than 3% brain capacity to come up with something original. And if you think vac is better than what I'm paying for Gold, you're a damn fool.
The true answer is that PS4 has more user than the other available consoles; and Sony wants to maintain that edge. It's like back in 2010; where you bought a specific console that all your friends were playing, and they don't want that aspect to leave the choice of choosing their console.
One Punch Falcon I have built my PC for $700+ which any bloke with a job can save up for. Said PC can run Destiny 2 at 1440p (I hate 4k) at a stable 60 frames per second with the right monitor and graphics card. It’s not as expensive as people think, it’s just that Alienware and Razer just prey on the rich general public and charge thousands when you can build a PC for relatively cheap (I mean $700 isnt cheap at all, but for what you’re capable of getting, it’s worth it) But Consoles are even cheaper so why not just stick with a console? Only reason you’d need to switch is if your friends move to PC
जॉन सीना Jhon Sina yea but with the amount of security leaks and hacks and network outages ps3 had it would've cost xbox more than it could've possibly made
Nicholas Araujo I have too many friends that have followed this chain but I will never leave 1440p 165hz on an ips display with dual gtx 1080s and that 7700k
Uniting arguably the most popular console communities in the history of gaming? Game populations would skyrocket, sales for both consoles would most likely go up, and there would be no more choosing between which new console to buy. I honestly don't understand why Sony had to shut it down. Its honestly kind of sad.
Slim Shady The answer is pretty simple I also disagree about Sony doing that because most of my friends play on Xbox and I'm just here with my PS4 But the reason is because if Sony did that their sales would go down because people will buy the cheapest console which is Xbox. Low sales isn't good Remember, it's a big business
Radio Active Thats not a good excuse, the sales would go up and they could just lower the price to the xbox price, and theyre still stomping the xbox in sales, so not a good excuse.
Madmonkey 290 I believe Sony rejected crossplay because Sony is malware-free. If Sony joined Xbox, there would be more malware. Feel free to reply and debate with me.
this is a little frustrating to hear as a PlayStation player. like seriously guys. just let us enjoy games with one another. and sure, let us keep our exclusive games because those games really define the consoles. I hope I get to see the day when cross platform play is a thing.
Letgy Thats The main cause,Xbox,Nintendo cant fight with pc without sony,Sony dids a lot better from xbox in terms of Fps,Yes Xbox has better graphics but yes at 20 fps,Thats bad
Is the crossplay with PC and Microsoft because I think that is slightly unfair for console gamers if it is. I'm sure I don't need to state my reasons why most are common sense.
Letgy Why can't we ALL join together? Anyways, cross platform is not always a good thing. Rocket League? Hell yes. Quake Champions? Uh, good luck console players.
Xbox also wants everyone to use an Xbox Live account...why would Sony ask their player base "Oh you know our rivals? add to their figures to play a game with them!" you clearly don't understand anything about business practices.
Shaun Dewey you're an idiot if think they need to make an xbox live account... they'll be using a minecraft account, that will be used under your nintendo, xbox, ect account.
Shaun Dewey Shaun Dewey Stop pulling bullshit out of your ass dude. Look into things instead of spreading misinformation. There is more upsides to crossplay than there is negatives
savorycorn 850 the point people are missing here is that cross-play doesnt allow you to play with certain people on other consoles, the other console users can just show up in your games
I can understand where Sony are coming from, legally speaking, but at the same time they could just put a disclaimer on cross platform games stating that they cannot be held responsible for gamers on other platforms, that would cover them from a legal standpoint and give gamers a wider and more diverse gaming community, seriously Sony step up and join the future of gaming, it doesn't matter what console/device you are using, if they are all playing the same game then let them all play together
Jeeses99 Nintendo Switch is barely getting any games, and can barely run the current gen of games. My work laptop runs better than the switch, so what do you mean)
Queedle "Nintendo switch is getting barley any games" No shit the thing just fucking came out March 3, 2017, play the waiting game. "it can barley run the current gen of games" Uh huh, what happened to skyrim remastered? Where did that go? "my laptop runs better than the switch" The switch has a good CPU to run skyrim, so if you bought a fucking GAMING MADE laptop, then of course it's better dip shit. What do you expect out of a small little portable console? Its doing its job and its doing its job just fine. Now stop fucking shitting on Nintendo, you fanboy.
Mauz Okay, we have ourselves a kid with no friends that cares too much about a youtube comment written by someone they don't even know. Here's some advice: go outside. Also I said work laptop, not gaming laptop. Learn the language you're reading, please. I could care less about what shitty gaming platform you losers choose, if you want a garbage machine like the Nintendo Switch, good for you. You're not important enough for me to care.
I have never using PS4 nor XBOX One to play online, I use them to play decent exclusives. For online gaming, I use my PC. Can someone tell me just the vague numbers of online console players ?
I've been a Sony fan for most of my life and this really really upsets me... there goes my wish to be able to play with all my friends on xbox one. I'll probably just sell my ps4 pro and get an Xbox. Sony is extremely selfish. Disgusting.
Joltario There are multiple reasons they said no one of the is that they are more popular than both of them and if the had cross platform then everyone would buy the cheapest one and play on that
Classic Panda Besides Nintendo, PlayStation is the cheapest option. Xbox One is usually priced higher than PS4 and the Xbox One X is dropping at 500$ which is I think 100$ more than the PS4 pro if not more expensive
Championship Manager? Completed it mate. i think he mean in general and witcher 3 is better with mouse and keyboard in my opinion though but i compleatly agree with rocket league and any racing games or games that are driving oreinted as well as some action games like hyper light driftor or the souls born series
However i do agree that in shooters the pc community would win by a large enough margin that the console community would yell for it to be seperated because in titan fall 2 the TTK is so small that a person with a mouse and keyboard can track a target better and in something like world of warcraft i feel like keyboard users would again take leed for more keybinds as well but as i have previosly states in general racing games win on console
i know children play on PlayStation but still why not make the rated E games cross platform while not the rated M games? it is their network so they have control over what is and what is not allowed to happen or is it really not their network and if they say allow to it then they have to allow everything? If so then Sony is not the smart brand that they use to be
Interviewer:Why don't u let crossplay sony Sony:We want to protect the kids from hateful users Interviewer:Why even protect them when there r already so many mature sony games already and there is a bunch of kids playing COD on ps4!?!?! Sony: We lied, we just want to keep our players from moving on to xbox,pc and switch and we will protect them at all cost. Interviewer:DAFUQ?!??!??!
So its been 10 or 11 months...how many problems has Sony had because of this?....oh thats right...Sony is absolutely dominating right now with no sign of losing steam any time soon. GoW ftw
I think the reason is because it would require Sony to actually invest in its network. It seems to me that Sony is only interested in collecting money via subscription fee increases on PSN and pseudo-backwards compatibility via Playstation Now. As long as people continue to support these projects, Sony won't have to lift a finger to improve the network or actually invest in anything. I think they'll continue to coast off of Microsoft's massive blunder last generation until Microsoft forces their hand by making a comeback with this one. Hopefully Microsoft can pull it off. I have a PS4 myself, so I am stuck either paying for PSN or losing the ability to play online. I'm rooting for M-Soft to put Sony's feet to the coals. I have yet to see the benefits of my Playstation Plus price increase.
Balto Games Microsoft has had paid network FAR longer than Sony in fact one of the original excuses Microsoft made for denying Sony of this in the past was because of this so it was one of the reasons Sony made it a paid network to make msoft more comfortable
@avery whitney, I think Sony just saw the potential for extra revenue by locking online behind a paywall as Microsoft had been doing for quite some time. Easy money is hard to turn down. No one batted an eye because Microsoft had already taken the risk and conditioned gamers to think that it was a normal, justified cost. They could even maintain their status of being "For the Gamers" by saying they hadn't originally charged for online gaming. Microsoft has answered Sony's Playstation Now money-grab by enabling backwards compatibility. Now, the honeymoon phase from last gen has worn off and it's time for Sony to step up to the plate.
paying to play online is just wrong.I gave up on consoles because I still own a PS3 and for me consoles used to be so much fun but now every single company now just wants to make money and that's just stupid paying to play online is retarted the prices of the games are insane I mean seriously I ve been a console gamer all my life starting with the PS1 but now console's are now money grabbing machines.Its best to just build a PC and fuck consoles.And that's coming from a console gamer.
Why can't we console players get along with each other i mean at the end of the day doesn't matter if you're on ps4,Xbox,switch we all have 1 in common we love video games . only braindead kids will say that there console is better.
shut the fuck up nissan u you pathetic piece of shit bitch you nothing if all you wanna do is argue over little shit all you are is an annoying little shit
Well, not really that much of a concern for me, cause Soloplayer. What I feel miffed about though, is the non existing backwards compatibility for PS3 on PS4 which is probably something of the easier things they could accomplish.
I feel that we probably won't see another playstation with backwards compatibility. It isn't as easy as it sounds like and it burned them very very badly when they did it for the Ps3. It wasn't until backwards compatible hardware was dropped that the PS3 became competitive in pricing. Sony is primarily a hardware developer so they aren't as capable when it comes to coding backwards compatibility. This gen they hold a solid 2:1 sale rate over microsoft. Clearly having backwards compatibility isn't as big an issue. As much as people seem to complain about Sony's supposed blunders their game strategy is clearly very successful.
Princess Ruto "probably one of the easier things they could accomplish". No, it's impossible lol. The different architectures between the two consoles mean that the PS4 can't handle emulating PS3 games.
@ bcauz The rapper Well, After I wrote that, I remembered that even an PS2 emulator eats up a lot of hardware on an reasonably good PC... so you're probably right about that.
I have a ps4, not sure how much longer I will after this. Which sucks, cause I like the ergonomics of it over xbox but if the other consoles are playing together I'm not going to be stuck watching from the outside because I chose the ps4.
Pathfinder Ryder Actually it's everyone that owns a ps4 and wants to play with their friends that have xboxes problem. So not just mine. Sony is becoming like apple. They were reluctant to allow mods in skyrim, and they're extremely limited, while people with xbox get to enjoy far more than me. And now this. How many more times will I be screwed over by sony's money lust? If they don't allow cross play and Microsoft does, it will be the last.
Pathfinder Ryder LMAO, a few others my ass. Shut up fanboy. Don't get me wrong, I am a Sony fan and I would love to stay with them. I have all of their consoles. But playing online is no longer free, so at this point I am simply choosing where I get the most of my money, which is looking like it will be xbone
Pathfinder Ryder Like I said, I have friends who play xbox, PC, and ps, and it would be nice to be able to play with them. I cant afford a decent pc, so xbox would become the next best option.
The future is definitely cross play. sooner or later Sony will give in. The comments section is legit cancer. Don't act like you know what you're talking about when referring to a company. There are lots of different aspects before a company can make a decision. Companies don't usually care about the consumer and even though Phil Spencer and Microsoft are ok with Cross Play now, Sony manages their company differently whether you say its good or bad. Its not like they will care when they are making money. Remember, we vote with our wallet not our voice. Its why i refuse to pay for online anymore even though many people do. if lots of people stop paying for ps plus then Sony would have to listen
Kita Gema Important to remember, MS said no to this first, last generation when SONY came to them with the same offer. Classic case of the shoe being on the other foot now.
Sony isnt losing anything and if they actually implement cross-play, then they will actually lose because people dont have to buy a PS4 to play with PS4 players. Get it now? Xbox has done the same thing in the past.
its actually much simpler than that. among consoles, sony leads in sales over the xbox one and the wii u combined. and in the current situation people want to buy a ps4 because most their friends have a ps4. so Sony wouldn't want to lose that selling point so it makes sense why they'd disagree. it also makes sense why Nintendo and Microsoft suddenly want to implement this, it is because they arent really competing with eachother as much as they are competing with Sony.
when they do start cross play (and ps is ok with it then) how would people talk in private without an external service, like xbox has there party chat stuff and ps does too would they merge it together somehow so people won't have to use discord just to talk with non ps or non xbox players?
I couldn't care any less about what they decided. PS4 an pc all day. Won't buy a Xbox ever since their drm bs they tried to push at xbone release, just because they "patched" it doesn't mean anything. So they'll never see a penny form me
Sony’s excuse is worse than when I told my teacher that my rabbit chewed up my homework😂😂. Let’s be honest Sony doesn’t want Crossplay simply because Microsoft is there enemy.
Street fighter V has cross play PS4 and PC so their argument is invalid.... sony is becoming the jerk Microsoft were on the beginning of this generation
Genryusin WTF what you're doing defending sony!? Attacking sf5 don't like sf5 play other game like the friend above say rocket league... I totally miss the point of your lunatic argument... sf5 was just an example that they aren't talking shit with shit...
Sony supporting Cross play on Minecraft would indirectly help their competitor Microsoft which owns the game. It would mean keeping Minecraft alive with all 4 systems supporting it. This means more money for Microsoft and with their latest unveil of the Xbox one x Sony is lying low in wait to see how successful it does. Sony doesn't need to give their rival more of a reason to make more money through cross play. Case in point very bad business!
BIO out People need to realise that Sony doesn't care about us ... the whole "for the player" bullshit is just good business. It's all about the €£¥ baby. I wouldn't worry about Microsoft though they go money and then some.
subseven it's only 60 bucks a year if you're that poor you probly shouldn't even be playing games and should be working. also remember back when ps3 online was free? it was a steaming pile of dog shit service. hackers, cheaters, poor security, month long network outages.
I'll go find a couple of other jobs so that I can start working every waking hour. Who needs free time, right? On PC it's free and it's not a steaming pile of dog shit.
theiflord12350 it's not about that, Sony and Microsoft are taking advantage of customers who keep paying for their shitty service and saying "keep paying for our service and we'll give you games you don't want but you paid for them anyways" when in the end you can use the money you spend on other games that you actually want. Also when Sony still has most of those problems they aren't using the money they get stealing from other people to make their service better.
subseven $60 a year is 5 a month LMAO cmon, and for xbox theres always atleast a few games that ppl want. and you get more sales. i understand it sucks to pay for online buy when you do the math its not THAT bad as people make it out to be.
surprisingly xbox lets a lot of people play free. my friend set up his account so his gf has free gold as long as he has it. and any game he buts digital she gets a free copy. its rather convenient for them.
and guess what? Even Microsoft cares about money only because sony offered cross-play in the past microsoft refused now its sony's turn to refuse. Not gonna lie, I want cross-play bur sony has their reasons. Not everyone will like what sony did but they didnt do anything wrong.
If it's cross platform, wouldn't they have to be the same servers? And if they were, couldn't they change the code in the report players option to work on all platforms?
Papi_Señor no because as a business its bad because to play with people on minecraft you have to log in on microsoft and they dont want to show their competitors
Daniyal Hussain It's just two games, it has nothing to do with business. Sony's 'excuse' was that they need to 'protect' children. Which looking at the grand scheme of things, they never really cared about children playing their games (except for a couple of games). Sony just doesn't want Microsoft on their console, which is fine (it is their company), but don't try to act like we're stupid, everyone can see right through them. They probably got all that pride from the PS4 sales, and think they own shit now😂
Why would sony choose to be against cross platform gaming. I know of 3 titles on steam right now that are cross platform with PlayStation. War Thunder, Rocket league, and Street fighter V. did they remove cross platform from them? this is only against Xbox if so. Sony is like that kid in school with a grudge against another kid that doesn't agree with him. WTF?!
They were rightfully outraged then, just as people are rightfully outraged now. Its not hypocrisy if people are mad at either side for doing something bad.
GilbertGuilford actually from what I can tell from other comments, at the time Phil Spencer head of Microsoft as of this point did not have the position at the time of that suggestion of crossplay, I would assume if he were given the chance in that time then I think he would have accepted the offer.
@Kapow Kow @NOBLE Seven Who was a head of XBox division back then is irrelevant. It's not like Phil Spencer can make any decision he wants without getting approval from board/shareholders. And when MS refused cross-play everyone was just brushing it off. Sony supported cross-play since 2002. and FFXI. Portal 2 came with bonus Steam key if you bought it for PS3 and supported cross-play between PS3 and PC. And everyone is giving little too much power to Phil Spencer. Even if Sony accepted, what happens when next XBox division chief comes and is against the idea because XBox RANDOM COLLECTION OF ALPHABET LETTERS is selling better than PS5?
Nintendo has a reputation for having made some baffling decisions in the past. They've been gradually turning that around, but that reputation precedes them for some people. It's surprising that Sony would be doing something you would expect Nintendo to do, especially when it comes to their online network; they've been historically extremely protective of that.
Sony have crossplay already for years like DC universe, FFS14 and Rocket league. Sony have reasons to not work with MS and I can bet it's all about greed. Though remember that Sony have had cross play for years guys and girls. Mr Phil Spencer is just no stop turning the knife into Sony after there great E3, which it was great, but I see what you're doing Spencer. I see what you did there.
@I_Am_SamIII I guess it's what you want from them that makes it great, good or crap. If you wanted a very powerful new piece of hardware then it's great, but if you wanted exclusives then it was lacking so then crap.
Thingy Sink Dude i got this sick deal if you want something thats better and is superior, not an xbox or ps, so if you dont want this trade deal stop reading. If youre still reading, search how expensive you want it to be for example 350$ pc build, now order the parts and build.
Don't listenen to any so called good offers, make up your own mind. The only reason for selecting the console should be which games you can play on it, and wether or not you have friends to play the games with.
Jeff the Savage wait your regretting buying a ps4 because you can't play Minecraft with other people. 😂😂😂 Because most games you probably play right now will never have cross play between any system.
I openly admit I don't care for Sony and it's consoles but I do think it's a mistake for them not to have cross platform support. Thank you for explaining why they don't have that feature yet. (I'm a hypocrite, I am looking at mh world's collector's edition for the ps4 if it will come to the west.... Yes I'm getting a ps4 just for one game.)
why not add a function that allows you to have a choice between playing just with your console and playing with other console. (for example how battleroyal games have their solo, duo and squad options) do the same with a cross platform option
Exactly ps4 sucks xbox is way more better and the the real reason why Sony does not want Nintendo and Ps4 to play with each other is because a long time ago Sony and Nintendo worked on a console but Nintendo said bye falishia and tooked all the cridet away. BTW xbox is better
sony and ps4 is better in all ways ,this makes everyone think sony and the ps4 is bad , even tho ps4 has a much better game library and alway has new games , unlike xbox
I think Sony themselves are developing a superiority complex. They believe they're the best and don't realise that most of the fanbase aren't mindless fanboys
Not being able to moderate other users is an extremely valid concern. FF14 is a game heavily moderated by the company that owns the game. As are the other cross-platform games. Guess what "the company that owns the game" would be for Minecraft? That's right, Microsoft. Not only would Sony not be able to police other users, it would let Microsoft police Sony's users.
Z3rostar actually id be safer with Microsoft since sony is weaker in forms of protection i mean would you trust a computer company or tv company with your info?
pretty sure Sony was open to cross plateform in PS360 era but Microsoft didn't want to. now it's the other way around. install base is much higher thus PS4 users don't really need Xone. I'm sure if Microsoft really wants cross plateform they could just write a check to Sony and gamers would be happy.
prospineshank I heard a legitimate argument about how because ps3 online was free it had much more problems with preventing cheaters, hackers, and abusive people since you could just make a new account and get back to business. Xbox sure as hell didn't want to put it's 360 customers through that hell of credit card leaks, network outages, and toxic players flaming their community.
Sony will never die and has about double as many users as x box cuz it sold way more units.... x box is trash amd lags super heavy i have both the x and the 4
sony's to proud.... and if Cross play Will be something more common, and they still refuse it, it will be their end don't give me wrong tho, it's only the People in charge, the fanbase from Playstation is awsome, but they're under control of very proud egos
Xbox is the better buy for me. I have a pc so I can enjoy graphics and performance on certain games but on Xbox ea access is perfect if you want to play the new sports games
Omg I guarantee you if Microsoft was the market leader they would not want cross play too! Just look at the 360 where was there need for cross play then?
The real reason is cuz they were betrayed in the past by Nintendo and it was a public announcement that's embarrassing for a company like Sony at the time now they work by themselves please do your research I'm a PlayStation fanboy or long time supporter since PS1 to PS4 even the unknown accessories
I'm pretty sure that the main reason that they won't allow cross platform is because they will lose ps4 sales. If your friend has a PS4 and that you want to play with him, you MUST buy a PS4 too, but if they alow cross platform, you don't have to.
Smalls and his homies wack stuff I don't know if it's possible for a huge game like GTA, with 30+ people per server, but yeah, that would be fucking lit
Is that suppose to be burn over my opinion? not wanting cross play= no one love that person? or are you trying to be funny base on my name and where it comes from?
The more Sony connects with other consoles, the more it is unsafe to use the PlayStation console. Sony's PlayStation 4 is malware free, unlike Xbox and PC. Feel free to reply and debate with me.
Easy fix, make it an option for the people to play cross play and if they choose to make them agree to another terms and conditions that would be agreed upon between all platforms(which may be a little difficult) and put in place a system where reports on people can be processed from say a PS4 to an Xbox One player.
ItzEli as my family have pointed out, yes it could be for economic reasons, the problem with this is seeing how many people were mad about it, it was a bad economic decision
that's why they need to make a communal server and control network. That links the consoles and if something happens then you can report that player then the server reports the the respective company.
It makes no sense just like on Xbox if you play Rocket league and you are against a pc player. First of all you can't message them privately and you can't see what messages they put. And they can't see what messages you put. Apart from preset chat.
theres this thing called a mute button that magically make the person stop talking
Sam Wielgopolski tf is this sorcery?
ARKIO 5896 yes you can
i know its magic i just recently found it out
ARKIO 5896 you can always block users on ps4
*"Online Interactions Not Rated by the ESRB"*
Boom. Solved.
John Graham Doe that's always existed this is about asshats on Minecraft that have used it to try to lure children to do things they shouldn't.
BOOM
K-POW
John Graham Doe KACHOW
Joshua Graham If two PS4 users could talk shit to each other then why can't we talk shit cross platform
Sony is like a mom who doesn't want her kids to play with the other kids at the park because she doesn't know the parents
DogDude good way to visualize it. Pretty stupid if you ask me
DogDude what if the parent is a pedophile or druggie or something
bob berry isn't that most of PS players?
isn't that most of PC players?*
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David Mendez pc players? get your head straight
If Microsoft signs an agreement that allows Sony to take action against Xbox users for improper conduct then I can see a possible cross platform environment. Let's go SoniiSoft
I agree with you
COOLMCDEN GAMING ok, it took me a long time to come up with this, sonysoftto or -softo
Schnozistan Czar yay no more mormer forkers
Mintendo is already a thing on fortnite
protect children? 99% of your Exclusives are games that kids shouldn't even play 🤔
Greatest Swordsman bro they are saying about other games its logical since exclusives can't be cross played! I mean they said that cause they started cross play with Minecraft and other games that kids can play you idiot. Oh and play with PC players who can mod so easy and if your on an other console you can't do shit cause you can't ban them or do something just get your ass modded!
CookieGaming GR what sword tried to say was that sony saying stuff about "protecting the children" many all the games they excusivly own or have made are not kid friendly while microsoft many not have many either crossplatfroming will help them be more kid friendly since it with nintendo (the kid friendly company)...duh.....also u should go back to school so u can learn this kinda stuff
Greatest Swordsman Exactly Sony is half-retarded...
Greatest Swordsman EXACTLY!!
ll ss games such as god of war
It's funny that most of those cyber bullies on PlayStation are those children they're trying to protect.
miller costa ur obviously stupid Xbox has Minecraft 10 yr old racist cancer kid
Darion Paul I never said they weren't on Xbox just that it was a bullshit reason to not have cross play
miller costa True lil kids trying to act big cmon
I remember I was playing rainbow six siege and these little kids kept team killing me for no reason and I just killed them all and got kicked
Darion Paul how is he racist and how do you know he has cancer? I'm a Sony fan but I don't know where you got the racist cancer kid part. And you don't know if he's a kid
"For the players". For the players my ass. This has to be one off the most selfish decisions Sony has ever made. Really to protect kids. If anything is us adults who needs to be protected from those 12 yr olds on COD and GTA tht swears like it's outta style.
Micah George well remember that Sony pushed it for the cross play and Xbox said the same thing last gen.
Rootin Tootin Putin what does that have to do with now? That's the past, this is the present. If your still saying that I think ur stuck in the past :(
Jose Meza everyone is bitching at Sony. But everyone forgot that they wanted it so now they're giving the finger back to MS
Rootin Tootin Putin 1.xbox head was runner by a different person
2.running cross platform on technology that most likely wouldn't handle it yet, and if it did i wouldn't run well
and provide the link where xbox denied ps cross play or you're just pulling shit out of your ass
Good one you make me laugh 😂😂😂 I agree
this sucks I wanted to play with my friends on ps4
Corrupted Child 2003 and i with xbox
Herman Skledar me too
Welp ask why your friends play ps4
You can
If you Play Fortnite You can
The same reason they said no to backwards compatibility
Playstation Now is the reason why they said no to backwards compatibility
Shut the fuck up
People don't want to play their PS3 shitty graphics games on their PS4. They want to pay a full 60$ so they can play the game they already own with slight graphical improvements.
No one wants PS3 backwards compatibility. Almost no good games on that. PS2 on the other hand... and it is easy to emulate.
Yaldabaoth dumbass! black ops2? batman arkham? assassins creed??????
I'm a Sony head all day, but seriously though, PS is acting like North Korea and shit here - trying to isolate all of it's members away from other communities.
No because Sony already has cross-play with PC in game like War Thunder, Final Fantasy, Paragon and Rocket League(Idk if there is more).
They arent isolating PS users from any community.
Profgamer "They arent isolating PS users from any community." Did you forget xbox and nintendo communities exist
Pathfinder Ryder Who could give a single shit about you? oh
yay for two gamers tearing eachother down for no reason. Glad we're coming together as a community with similar interests.
i would only hate playing with PC players.....so many hackers and modders that like to troll
In my opinion Xbox are doing this so they can bring PC games over to the Microsoft brand. Also I believe they're going to encourage all devs to create all their new games to also work on console which will be a win win for the Devs (more money) and Microsoft (more games labelled as exclusive)
John CR Smithton As a PC player, who can already play any x1 game I want without buying any of their outdated-at-launch hardware.. why would this bring me to their brand at all?
Legitimate question. I see no reason for me to feel loyal to a brand, that wants to charge me $500 for a 'meh' PC, when I can play their "exclusive" titles without that hardware..
Serious question macdaddymario, will xbox one games run on a windows 7 pc?
halo3odst yes, Xbox is moving to be a complete xbox/PC compatibility console/PC. basically Microsoft has been moving to Xbox on PC or PC games on Xbox for a long time. the biggest hurdle is making Xbox run PC quality games without over pricing the fans out. people want a console at am affordable rate, anything too expensive and they would rather buy a PC
John CR Smithton PC is Windows, which is Microsoft, as well. They need to move towards cross platform between those 2 so Microsoft isn't essentially competing with themselves.
Droogie128 that's what they're doing, I doubt they'll say at this stage but with players unknown being the first PC game on Xbox I'm sure many more are to come
Xbox = Has less exclusive games but cares more about the fanbase
Playstation= Has better exclusives but gives a damn about their fanbase
Arya Stark Every company is a for money company and so If they make money they dont have to be proconsumer
You should watch the first xbox one reveal. Xbox certainly did not give a fuck about their fanbase at all!
Arya Stark I could care less about cross platform lol I'd honestly rather not have it because most of the 10 year old mom fuckers are on Xbox
Fuzzy Buddy how do you know that?
Fuzzy Buddy You can just mute them.
Since we filmed/edited/thumbnailed/put loads of effort into this video, there's been a small development. The Minecraft dev says crossplay requires an Xbox login on other platforms. Interesting. Maybe that's why Sony backed out. What do you guys think?
Pretty Good Gaming bollocks
Pretty Good Gaming honestly they should have just stuck to the stakeholder reasoning, would have been better than this 'Think of the Kids' arguement that's dead in the water
So the real reason why Sony wont allow this is because its just bad business on their part. Allowing cross platform play would remove their market advantage of having a larger community and share it with their direct competitors.
It makes sense for microsoft and nintendo as they both have a smaller online community than Sony does in the current generation of consoles. However if Sony were to share their playerbase with Xbox it would remove a massive incentive to choose a Playstation over Xbox.
Think about it, the most common cited reasons for choosing one over the other are either: more games, or because the community is larger/has your friends playing on it. This second reason would be completely moot if Sony shares their playerbase with their competition.
Currently if you buy COD/Battlefield you want to go on the console that has the more active online multiplayer community and has your friends playing on it. With Sony currently winning the 'console war' and having ps4 sales dwarf Xbox One then Sony is the natural choice for online play.
Personally I don't think they deserve any hate for this, its just good business. As far as the players, while you could say that we are getting slightly shafted by this decision you could also argue that a stronger position for Sony means more exclusives and development by the company which could lead to more benefits for the consumer/free content etc.....
Although really it just leads to a bigger bonus for Sony executives.
Co p I disagree. They can't do whatever they want just because it is good business, they also have to look out for their consumer's satisfaction and not being able play with people on other platforms is very bad for ps4 users not to mention this all bad PR. That being said, Microsoft forcing Xbox live on other platforms seems also bit sketchy to me so I am not sure who is in the wrong here.
Cutter Elf the people like us who care about Minecraft cross play are a very small vocal minority and don't matter in the large scheme of things. The business side of things are insanely one-sided towards not included cross play, and especially for Sony..
We know why. Money. Cross play is potentially detrimental to Sony's profits in terms of the social communities and how the consoles purchased are usually determined by mass unity. In other words, if my friend has it, I want it so we can play together. And since Sony now has a generally more positive reputation, if Cross play is implemented, then there advantage is invalidated and Microsoft can effectively match or outweigh Sony in sales since it will no longer matter. Thats all it is and all it will ever be.
phoenixbarnes55 or because you need an Xbox account for most games so...(Not original)
phoenixbarnes55 Very true, but wgat Sony fails to realize is that by refusing to support cross play, they give every other console the upper hand, because they are now the odd one out. Why get a Playstation when every other console supports cross play?
Tristin Banach IKR!!
because playstation has better games its quite simple
wow fanboy alert lol face it , it has better exclusives uncharted , last of us etc.... plus has all the games you play online with your friends are on ps aswell.
what a saddo xbox fanboy u are
i have both consoles aswell so deal with it
Basically Playstation has became so popular SONY don't think they need to bother with stuff like that anymore. Crossplatform? Eh who cares? Backwards Compatibility? LOL make them buy those games again instead.
Alibaba mentioning backwards compatibility just make playstation sound lazy for not making backwards compatibility, they even admitted that they didn't think it was possible on next gen consoles
Alibaba no one is making you buy the games again. Keep your old consoles, genius.
EmojiSmilie that's lazy
They have also become so popular that their asses are getting hacked by their own players for this decision, we need someome to break GEOHOT outta jail. (Lil background on history, GEOHOT is the one dude who hack ps3 back in 2011 it was groundbreaking because he found a way to break through the architecure and such, im sure he can do it again)
Darknight He won't be out any time soon. And by then their security is going to be so different and so much better. I doubt he could make it happen again even if he wanted to.
Haha protect children 😂😂😂😂😁 yo last time I went in ps4 a kid who was 6 or 7 was yelling F... S... and that I was bad at cod
I was playing wot once (back before I found war thunder) and some tiny kid who sounded like he was about 2 and he was trying to boss everyone around
children are little shits, I absolutely hate how parents today let their kids on the M games. I think it should not be a thing
Nick Lynch why do you hate yourself then
DidiRandomYT games thats just all cod players.
Chris Jr its more then just cod but yeah mostly cod
Rocket League already has access to PC players on PS4. That kinda ruins some of the arguments right there...
xFace021x and Dc universe
xFace021x Also Paragon
War thunder aswell.
Yes, but for some reason, because Sony is not allowing cross-play with Xbox players, you can not join a party with cross-platform friends, which sucks for everyone.
Caleb Bunch What you say is true, but there is still more to worry about, like exclusives. No doubt, Call of Duty is going to sell well this year. Sony gets the DLC 1 month early. So, if their friends are on PlayStation, they would feel a bit left out if they play on Xbox. I hate exclusives. They suck for everyone, whether they admit it or not. However, they are a big reason that people buy a certain console.
On the other hand, people might go to PlayStation from Xbox because they no longer need to worry about playing with their friends on Xbox. Again, exclusives would play a large role in this decision.
Psyonix is being lazy by not adding a way to join a part with my friends. I'm on PC. I can play with both Xbox and PS4 (Soon Nintendo as well) players, just not at the same time. There is no reason for them to not add a way for me to play with my friends on Xbox and PS4 on Rocket League. It's simply laziness.
ESRB Rating : E for everyone
Fantasy Violence
Online interactions not rated by the ESRB
The Marine708 not e for everyone fantasy violence gets you a 10+... wait a minute... that's the age of gta 5's fan base... strange
Bad idea, the whole reason why most people choose one console other the other is to play with their friends so if cross play is allowed, that whole problem goes away
Deian Giurgev Xbox and PS servers are far more protected than PC servers. I can't tell you how many times I've encountered a hacker on PC games, but I can tell you how many times I've encountered a hacker on my Xbox: Once.
Deian Giurgev Comparing an elite group of hackers to the odd script kiddie on CS:GO
Bravo.
Deian Giurgev If you can't afford to pay $5 a month, you shouldn't even have an Xbox, or a good TV, or even a graphics card for a PC. So yeah, your logic is crap.
Deian Giurgev Hackers?! On console?! Woah! Color me surprised! I had no idea! It's not like I mentioned seeing a hacker while playing on console, but I suppose you lacked the time or ability (most likely the latter)to read through what I wrote.
A report system? What a genius invention! What next, flying cars? Anyone with the correct organ within their skull knows what a report system is. But it is much weaker on PC than console.
A brain dead pesant? I'm flattered. But the only one with a dead brain must be you, good sir. Else you would have know how to spell "peasant". But I suppose you could hurl generic insults at me and not use more than 3% brain capacity to come up with something original.
And if you think vac is better than what I'm paying for Gold, you're a damn fool.
Deian Giurgev Igualmente, buddy.
The true answer is that PS4 has more user than the other available consoles; and Sony wants to maintain that edge. It's like back in 2010; where you bought a specific console that all your friends were playing, and they don't want that aspect to leave the choice of choosing their console.
Jacob Melone Agreed
but in the future they are going to loose everyone to PC at some point anyway... so whats the problem ?
Arcane Gianterino Kripperino They already have, they don't have that edge so that's not the reason. Jacob is wrong.
Arcane Gianterino Kripperino Highly doubt it, a good PC is an Iphone X price. People can't afford it.
One Punch Falcon I have built my PC for $700+ which any bloke with a job can save up for. Said PC can run Destiny 2 at 1440p (I hate 4k) at a stable 60 frames per second with the right monitor and graphics card. It’s not as expensive as people think, it’s just that Alienware and Razer just prey on the rich general public and charge thousands when you can build a PC for relatively cheap (I mean $700 isnt cheap at all, but for what you’re capable of getting, it’s worth it)
But Consoles are even cheaper so why not just stick with a console? Only reason you’d need to switch is if your friends move to PC
and watch, when sony finally rolls out cross-play they'll act like they came up with the concept. believe.
जॉन सीना Jhon Sina yea but with the amount of security leaks and hacks and network outages ps3 had it would've cost xbox more than it could've possibly made
जॉन सीना Jhon Sina yes but the playstation network was so fucked up back then that nobody from other plattforms wanted to play with playstation.
Sony has been cross playing with PC since 2002 X_X
Sony have cross play, your ignorance is forgiven. i'll even name a game that has cross play with PC, Paragon.
Universe 9 Basil sony won't cross play with other consoles. ps4 is linked with pc on several games
We're all young kids at heart... dont take a dig at Nintendo, there games are fun and for all ages
they want ppl to buy a PS4 to play with their friends
Nicholas Araujo but wouldn't making playing multi-plats with your friends make exclusives and performance more important
Nicholas Araujo I have too many friends that have followed this chain but I will never leave 1440p 165hz on an ips display with dual gtx 1080s and that 7700k
As a pc player sony just made the worst move ever how stupid xS
MERCY I own all three new gen consoles, so from my perspective, this doesn't bother me at all.
what graphics card u got, I got 1070 and 7700k. got it a week ago
griffix Me?
i have the 1070 too and a i5 2400u
MERCY I have the i7 and a 1080 but I’m upgrading to a i9
MERCY I have a 7500k and a 1060 6 gig. 8 GB ram and 2 TB storage
Uniting arguably the most popular console communities in the history of gaming? Game populations would skyrocket, sales for both consoles would most likely go up, and there would be no more choosing between which new console to buy. I honestly don't understand why Sony had to shut it down. Its honestly kind of sad.
Slim Shady AND it will be easier to find a good server on any game.
Slim Shady
The answer is pretty simple
I also disagree about Sony doing that because most of my friends play on Xbox and I'm just here with my PS4
But the reason is because if Sony did that their sales would go down because people will buy the cheapest console which is Xbox.
Low sales isn't good
Remember, it's a big business
Radio Active Thats not a good excuse, the sales would go up and they could just lower the price to the xbox price, and theyre still stomping the xbox in sales, so not a good excuse.
sebastian zedig
Yea the sales would go up..... mostly for Xbox
And they can't lower their prices yet for obvious reasons
Business as usual
B-b-but... Sony is 4 the players!!1!
Lord Uhtred check your facts sony won world wide sales not by much but they won
www.vgchartz.com/analysis/platform_totals/
Just proof for you.
Lord Uhtred it couldn't possibly be Xbox getting just desserts for denying ps3 this same request last gen
jeffrey tierney xbox had different guy in head of the comppany back then
'Want to keep our people safe'
Most hacked console
FatShitStudios Greatest fact about Sony.
FatShitStudios isn't xbox the most hacked console?
FatShitStudios just asking
NightMare 541 you mean worst fact about Sony?
Dombrov Cristi largest market share means the biggest target
cross play could be the first step to ending the rivalry between playstation and xbox.....and I feel like playstation fucked that up.
Madmonkey 290 I believe Sony rejected crossplay because Sony is malware-free. If Sony joined Xbox, there would be more malware. Feel free to reply and debate with me.
this is a little frustrating to hear as a PlayStation player.
like seriously guys. just let us enjoy games with one another. and sure, let us keep our exclusive games because those games really define the consoles.
I hope I get to see the day when cross platform play is a thing.
Vangyx_217 really? Im a playsation fan and i dont give a fuck tbh
Haha! The consoles should team up and fight the PC master race!
Because we'll destroy you.
Letgy Thats The main cause,Xbox,Nintendo cant fight with pc without sony,Sony dids a lot better from xbox in terms of Fps,Yes Xbox has better graphics but yes at 20 fps,Thats bad
Is the crossplay with PC and Microsoft because I think that is slightly unfair for console gamers if it is. I'm sure I don't need to state my reasons why most are common sense.
Letgy Why can't we ALL join together?
Anyways, cross platform is not always a good thing. Rocket League? Hell yes. Quake Champions? Uh, good luck console players.
Sony allows crossplay with PC (the most unregulated space in gaming) on Rocket League, so I call bullsh*t, hypocrisy rules.
Waspix11 That is Hypocrisy...
Waspix11 LOL
Waspix11 There's a whole list of games out there kid. and also: second* and it *is* hypocrisy
C2X Senpai so what it should be done..
I'd love to play people on other systems. There's no sticking up for Sony on this.
Tracy Bernard WAR THUNDER YOU'RE FORGETTING WAR THUNDER
Xbox wants friendship, Sony denies it.
Xbox also wants everyone to use an Xbox Live account...why would Sony ask their player base "Oh you know our rivals? add to their figures to play a game with them!" you clearly don't understand anything about business practices.
Shaun Dewey why would you need to make a xbox live account for cross play am i missing something about xbox?
Shaun Dewey you're an idiot if think they need to make an xbox live account...
they'll be using a minecraft account, that will be used under your nintendo, xbox, ect account.
Shaun Dewey Shaun Dewey Stop pulling bullshit out of your ass dude. Look into things instead of spreading misinformation. There is more upsides to crossplay than there is negatives
Talking Controller PS4 has nearly double the players Xbox 1 does why would the "share" there success with the competitors? There being smart not mean!
anything is possible, but we have to *work together as humans* to get things done.
Sonico-chan did you just assume my species?
User friendly LOL!Its all about that money 💰.
i have a ps4 and my friend has Xbox one i would love to cross play with him
personally i dont care i have friends on both sides
Chaotic Daniel Understandable, but don't defend the decision just because it doesn't affect *you*.
savorycorn 850 the point people are missing here is that cross-play doesnt allow you to play with certain people on other consoles, the other console users can just show up in your games
I can understand where Sony are coming from, legally speaking, but at the same time they could just put a disclaimer on cross platform games stating that they cannot be held responsible for gamers on other platforms, that would cover them from a legal standpoint and give gamers a wider and more diverse gaming community, seriously Sony step up and join the future of gaming, it doesn't matter what console/device you are using, if they are all playing the same game then let them all play together
You know that something has gone VERY wrong if Sony denies something that even NINTENDO is ok with.
Jeeses99 Nintendo Switch is barely getting any games, and can barely run the current gen of games. My work laptop runs better than the switch, so what do you mean)
Qeedle graphics are not the only thing that matters
kalosack Graphics have nothing to do with the ability to run a game.
Queedle "Nintendo switch is getting barley any games" No shit the thing just fucking came out March 3, 2017, play the waiting game. "it can barley run the current gen of games" Uh huh, what happened to skyrim remastered? Where did that go? "my laptop runs better than the switch" The switch has a good CPU to run skyrim, so if you bought a fucking GAMING MADE laptop, then of course it's better dip shit. What do you expect out of a small little portable console? Its doing its job and its doing its job just fine. Now stop fucking shitting on Nintendo, you fanboy.
Mauz Okay, we have ourselves a kid with no friends that cares too much about a youtube comment written by someone they don't even know. Here's some advice: go outside.
Also I said work laptop, not gaming laptop. Learn the language you're reading, please.
I could care less about what shitty gaming platform you losers choose, if you want a garbage machine like the Nintendo Switch, good for you. You're not important enough for me to care.
I have never using PS4 nor XBOX One to play online, I use them to play decent exclusives.
For online gaming, I use my PC.
Can someone tell me just the vague numbers of online console players ?
Minalinsky About a few million
I've been a Sony fan for most of my life and this really really upsets me... there goes my wish to be able to play with all my friends on xbox one. I'll probably just sell my ps4 pro and get an Xbox. Sony is extremely selfish. Disgusting.
Joltario There are multiple reasons they said no one of the is that they are more popular than both of them and if the had cross platform then everyone would buy the cheapest one and play on that
Classic Panda Besides Nintendo, PlayStation is the cheapest option. Xbox One is usually priced higher than PS4 and the Xbox One X is dropping at 500$ which is I think 100$ more than the PS4 pro if not more expensive
Christopher Hitchens Mouse and keyboard isn't always superior... take Rocket league or the Witcher 3 for example...
Championship Manager? Completed it mate. i think he mean in general and witcher 3 is better with mouse and keyboard in my opinion though but i compleatly agree with rocket league and any racing games or games that are driving oreinted as well as some action games like hyper light driftor or the souls born series
However i do agree that in shooters the pc community would win by a large enough margin that the console community would yell for it to be seperated because in titan fall 2 the TTK is so small that a person with a mouse and keyboard can track a target better and in something like world of warcraft i feel like keyboard users would again take leed for more keybinds as well but as i have previosly states in general racing games win on console
"For The Children" GTFO !
wut
i know children play on PlayStation but still why not make the rated E games cross platform while not the rated M games? it is their network so they have control over what is and what is not allowed to happen or is it really not their network and if they say allow to it then they have to allow everything?
If so then Sony is not the smart brand that they use to be
ProPlayerFTW ik, i always hear a 9 year old in gta online, plus they get annoying with "can u do a money drop"
Sony loosing players from this.
Interviewer:Why don't u let crossplay sony
Sony:We want to protect the kids from hateful users
Interviewer:Why even protect them when there r already so many mature sony games already and there is a bunch of kids playing COD on ps4!?!?!
Sony: We lied, we just want to keep our players from moving on to xbox,pc and switch and we will protect them at all cost.
Interviewer:DAFUQ?!??!??!
I'd do the same. Microsoft is trash.
Rider Wolf Seeker why would you switch? You already bought games for your ps4 why buy them again just for an xbox
HypnoGaming PlayStation ass
So its been 10 or 11 months...how many problems has Sony had because of this?....oh thats right...Sony is absolutely dominating right now with no sign of losing steam any time soon. GoW ftw
I think the reason is because it would require Sony to actually invest in its network. It seems to me that Sony is only interested in collecting money via subscription fee increases on PSN and pseudo-backwards compatibility via Playstation Now. As long as people continue to support these projects, Sony won't have to lift a finger to improve the network or actually invest in anything. I think they'll continue to coast off of Microsoft's massive blunder last generation until Microsoft forces their hand by making a comeback with this one. Hopefully Microsoft can pull it off. I have a PS4 myself, so I am stuck either paying for PSN or losing the ability to play online. I'm rooting for M-Soft to put Sony's feet to the coals. I have yet to see the benefits of my Playstation Plus price increase.
Balto Games if you have a friend with ps4, log into each other's with your PSN, activate as primary console and share the ps plus = half price :D
Balto Games Microsoft has had paid network FAR longer than Sony in fact one of the original excuses Microsoft made for denying Sony of this in the past was because of this so it was one of the reasons Sony made it a paid network to make msoft more comfortable
Not a bad idea!
@avery whitney, I think Sony just saw the potential for extra revenue by locking online behind a paywall as Microsoft had been doing for quite some time. Easy money is hard to turn down. No one batted an eye because Microsoft had already taken the risk and conditioned gamers to think that it was a normal, justified cost. They could even maintain their status of being "For the Gamers" by saying they hadn't originally charged for online gaming. Microsoft has answered Sony's Playstation Now money-grab by enabling backwards compatibility. Now, the honeymoon phase from last gen has worn off and it's time for Sony to step up to the plate.
paying to play online is just wrong.I gave up on consoles because I still own a PS3 and for me consoles used to be so much fun but now every single company now just wants to make money and that's just stupid paying to play online is retarted the prices of the games are insane I mean seriously I ve been a console gamer all my life starting with the PS1 but now console's are now money grabbing machines.Its best to just build a PC and fuck consoles.And that's coming from a console gamer.
Why can't we console players get along with each other i mean at the end of the day doesn't matter if you're on ps4,Xbox,switch we all have 1 in common we love video games . only braindead kids will say that there console is better.
my friend has an xbox one and i have a ps4...and my other friend has a ps3
and my step dad has an xbox one...we all get along
TIEMEN LOL true it's just the fucking games and control
TIEMEN LOL Amen We All Gamers At end of the day
Travis Thompson Please just shut the fuck up. I am a only gamer and people like you are the reason we look like elitists.
shut the fuck up nissan u you pathetic piece of shit bitch you nothing if all you wanna do is argue over little shit all you are is an annoying little shit
Well, not really that much of a concern for me, cause Soloplayer.
What I feel miffed about though, is the non existing backwards compatibility for PS3 on PS4 which is probably something of the easier things they could accomplish.
I feel that we probably won't see another playstation with backwards compatibility. It isn't as easy as it sounds like and it burned them very very badly when they did it for the Ps3. It wasn't until backwards compatible hardware was dropped that the PS3 became competitive in pricing. Sony is primarily a hardware developer so they aren't as capable when it comes to coding backwards compatibility. This gen they hold a solid 2:1 sale rate over microsoft. Clearly having backwards compatibility isn't as big an issue. As much as people seem to complain about Sony's supposed blunders their game strategy is clearly very successful.
Princess Ruto "probably one of the easier things they could accomplish".
No, it's impossible lol. The different architectures between the two consoles mean that the PS4 can't handle emulating PS3 games.
@ bcauz The rapper
Well, After I wrote that, I remembered that even an PS2 emulator eats up a lot of hardware on an reasonably good PC... so you're probably right about that.
it will just be better if xbox and psn to play same servers
true they are basically the same consoles with the same games and controls
I hope you haven't forgotten that Xbox is also on PC.
No you can connect ps4 controller on pc
I have a ps4, not sure how much longer I will after this. Which sucks, cause I like the ergonomics of it over xbox but if the other consoles are playing together I'm not going to be stuck watching from the outside because I chose the ps4.
Pathfinder Ryder Actually it's everyone that owns a ps4 and wants to play with their friends that have xboxes problem. So not just mine. Sony is becoming like apple. They were reluctant to allow mods in skyrim, and they're extremely limited, while people with xbox get to enjoy far more than me. And now this. How many more times will I be screwed over by sony's money lust? If they don't allow cross play and Microsoft does, it will be the last.
Pathfinder Ryder LMAO, a few others my ass. Shut up fanboy. Don't get me wrong, I am a Sony fan and I would love to stay with them. I have all of their consoles. But playing online is no longer free, so at this point I am simply choosing where I get the most of my money, which is looking like it will be xbone
Pathfinder Ryder Those reasons you bought that console for would still be there with you, and you would be able to play with others...
Pathfinder Ryder Like I said, I have friends who play xbox, PC, and ps, and it would be nice to be able to play with them. I cant afford a decent pc, so xbox would become the next best option.
The future is definitely cross play. sooner or later Sony will give in. The comments section is legit cancer. Don't act like you know what you're talking about when referring to a company. There are lots of different aspects before a company can make a decision. Companies don't usually care about the consumer and even though Phil Spencer and Microsoft are ok with Cross Play now, Sony manages their company differently whether you say its good or bad. Its not like they will care when they are making money. Remember, we vote with our wallet not our voice. Its why i refuse to pay for online anymore even though many people do. if lots of people stop paying for ps plus then Sony would have to listen
Kita Gema Important to remember, MS said no to this first, last generation when SONY came to them with the same offer. Classic case of the shoe being on the other foot now.
macdaddymario Lol, but Sony is the one at a loss right now
Sony isnt losing anything and if they actually implement cross-play, then they will actually lose because people dont have to buy a PS4 to play with PS4 players. Get it now? Xbox has done the same thing in the past.
its actually much simpler than that. among consoles, sony leads in sales over the xbox one and the wii u combined. and in the current situation people want to buy a ps4 because most their friends have a ps4. so Sony wouldn't want to lose that selling point so it makes sense why they'd disagree. it also makes sense why Nintendo and Microsoft suddenly want to implement this, it is because they arent really competing with eachother as much as they are competing with Sony.
Chris Jackson wrong
Chris Jackson actually the Xbox one has caught up to the ps4 sale rate and then you can add the Wii U and it would surpass the ps4s sales greatly
CycloneChallenges no it hasnt 😂 Sony is still far ahead with sales
around twice the amount
Chris Jackson i don't think so.
when they do start cross play (and ps is ok with it then) how would people talk in private without an external service, like xbox has there party chat stuff and ps does too would they merge it together somehow so people won't have to use discord just to talk with non ps or non xbox players?
Wouldn't somebody think of the children?!
ShadowsHeat Gamertoday @ youtubea
Sony do.
ShadowsHeat R.I.P Maude Flanders
......or was it Rev. Lovejoy's wife?
Critical Hitz you are correct sir. know your simpsons kids.
Last PlayStation I bought was a PS2 slim. I don't want to play on their network.
Yep. The only reason I play on Xbox is because I dislike the Playstation controller. It's cheap and breaks very easily.
Daniel Pennybaker you do know you can use Xbox one controller o to PS4 with an adapter that costs a couple bucks. Wow just woe
EverythingSamsungPro Don't blame him, nit everybody knows what you know.
I'm not happy with Sony right now.
when is anyone ever happy with sony
Chaotic Sniper ikr I mean look at the emoji movie
CRAZYCRINGE to
I couldn't care any less about what they decided.
PS4 an pc all day.
Won't buy a Xbox ever since their drm bs they tried to push at xbone release, just because they "patched" it doesn't mean anything. So they'll never see a penny form me
Sony’s excuse is worse than when I told my teacher that my rabbit chewed up my homework😂😂. Let’s be honest Sony doesn’t want Crossplay simply because Microsoft is there enemy.
XxbeastxX ya this comment disturbed but unfortunately its true😣
Back during the ps3 and 360 era. Microsoft declined Sony's offer for crossplay
you can cross play rn what you mean
Street fighter V has cross play PS4 and PC so their argument is invalid.... sony is becoming the jerk Microsoft were on the beginning of this generation
the same with rocket league crossplay with pc and ps4
Thiago Racca No one plays street fighter 5 though. It's straight garbage just like your comment
Genryusin WTF what you're doing defending sony!? Attacking sf5 don't like sf5 play other game like the friend above say rocket league...
I totally miss the point of your lunatic argument... sf5 was just an example that they aren't talking shit with shit...
Sony supporting Cross play on Minecraft would indirectly help their competitor Microsoft which owns the game. It would mean keeping Minecraft alive with all 4 systems supporting it. This means more money for Microsoft and with their latest unveil of the Xbox one x Sony is lying low in wait to see how successful it does. Sony doesn't need to give their rival more of a reason to make more money through cross play. Case in point very bad business!
BIO out People need to realise that Sony doesn't care about us ... the whole "for the player" bullshit is just good business. It's all about the €£¥ baby. I wouldn't worry about Microsoft though they go money and then some.
But when are they going to start letting us play online without digging their hands into our pockets?
subseven it's only 60 bucks a year if you're that poor you probly shouldn't even be playing games and should be working.
also remember back when ps3 online was free? it was a steaming pile of dog shit service. hackers, cheaters, poor security, month long network outages.
I'll go find a couple of other jobs so that I can start working every waking hour. Who needs free time, right?
On PC it's free and it's not a steaming pile of dog shit.
theiflord12350 it's not about that, Sony and Microsoft are taking advantage of customers who keep paying for their shitty service and saying "keep paying for our service and we'll give you games you don't want but you paid for them anyways" when in the end you can use the money you spend on other games that you actually want.
Also when Sony still has most of those problems they aren't using the money they get stealing from other people to make their service better.
subseven $60 a year is 5 a month LMAO cmon, and for xbox theres always atleast a few games that ppl want.
and you get more sales.
i understand it sucks to pay for online buy when you do the math its not THAT bad as people make it out to be.
surprisingly xbox lets a lot of people play free. my friend set up his account so his gf has free gold as long as he has it. and any game he buts digital she gets a free copy. its rather convenient for them.
Sony is the bad guy in this. Sony doesn't really care about there gamers they just want to make money.
But that's all companies want.
and guess what? Even Microsoft cares about money only because sony offered cross-play in the past microsoft refused now its sony's turn to refuse.
Not gonna lie, I want cross-play bur sony has their reasons. Not everyone will like what sony did but they didnt do anything wrong.
Doctor D0M3 You just proved my point, all companies care about money only.
Profgamer False.
Soupy Wistle Xbox said that they would allow it if sony would agree
Christopher Hitchens How to fix
1. MAKE CONSOLE ONLY SEVERS A FUCKING THING OR RELEASE IT SEPERATELY.
done
If it's cross platform, wouldn't they have to be the same servers? And if they were, couldn't they change the code in the report players option to work on all platforms?
😂it's just two fucking games. Sony's being real egotistical about this, *especially* since Nintendo has no problem with it.
Papi_Señor no because as a business its bad because to play with people on minecraft you have to log in on microsoft and they dont want to show their competitors
Daniyal Hussain It's just two games, it has nothing to do with business. Sony's 'excuse' was that they need to 'protect' children. Which looking at the grand scheme of things, they never really cared about children playing their games (except for a couple of games). Sony just doesn't want Microsoft on their console, which is fine (it is their company), but don't try to act like we're stupid, everyone can see right through them. They probably got all that pride from the PS4 sales, and think they own shit now😂
Papi_Señor there is a reason why ps4 sold more than Xbox 1
Why would sony choose to be against cross platform gaming. I know of 3 titles on steam right now that are cross platform with PlayStation. War Thunder, Rocket league, and Street fighter V. did they remove cross platform from them? this is only against Xbox if so. Sony is like that kid in school with a grudge against another kid that doesn't agree with him. WTF?!
I remember everyone being this outraged when MS refused cross-play with PS3. Hypocrisy at its finest.
GilbertGuilford lol?
They were rightfully outraged then, just as people are rightfully outraged now. Its not hypocrisy if people are mad at either side for doing something bad.
GilbertGuilford actually from what I can tell from other comments, at the time Phil Spencer head of Microsoft as of this point did not have the position at the time of that suggestion of crossplay, I would assume if he were given the chance in that time then I think he would have accepted the offer.
GilbertGuilford well I'm pretty sure Phil spencer wasn't the head of Xbox.
@Kapow Kow @NOBLE Seven
Who was a head of XBox division back then is irrelevant. It's not like Phil Spencer can make any decision he wants without getting approval from board/shareholders. And when MS refused cross-play everyone was just brushing it off. Sony supported cross-play since 2002. and FFXI. Portal 2 came with bonus Steam key if you bought it for PS3 and supported cross-play between PS3 and PC.
And everyone is giving little too much power to Phil Spencer. Even if Sony accepted, what happens when next XBox division chief comes and is against the idea because XBox RANDOM COLLECTION OF ALPHABET LETTERS is selling better than PS5?
I never thought I'd see the day that _Sony_ would pull a Nintendo.
namelessUser this comment makes no sense.
nintendo is innovative and has games that xone and ps4 just cant play.
super duck! I mean they could if Nintendo would let them.
Nintendo has a reputation for having made some baffling decisions in the past. They've been gradually turning that around, but that reputation precedes them for some people. It's surprising that Sony would be doing something you would expect Nintendo to do, especially when it comes to their online network; they've been historically extremely protective of that.
what about leaderboards and rankings on xbox and ps4 how would they handle that how would they handle talking to people on other platforms
Why can't they just make an option to play with "only PS4 Gaming" and "Cross Gaming" that way Sony can respond to "Only PS4 players"
Lol that's the worst excuse ever
Should've just admitted that Microsoft is shit
HypnoGaming but that would be lying
Just a reason to hide why Sony hates Microsoft
Funny since microsoft said almost the same thing back when someone was able to play the same game on the 360 and ps3
Sony have crossplay already for years like DC universe, FFS14 and Rocket league. Sony have reasons to not work with MS and I can bet it's all about greed.
Though remember that Sony have had cross play for years guys and girls. Mr Phil Spencer is just no stop turning the knife into Sony after there great E3, which it was great, but I see what you're doing Spencer. I see what you did there.
Paolo Trianni I dnt know what e3 u watched Sony wuz trash this year
Hogginthegame Hogginthegame I was saying MS great E3 not Sony's. Though not being a fanboy Sony's E3 was ok not great like Xbox but it was ok.
@I_Am_SamIII I guess it's what you want from them that makes it great, good or crap. If you wanted a very powerful new piece of hardware then it's great, but if you wanted exclusives then it was lacking so then crap.
my giant question is, can i transfer my wii u worlds to my switch in the upcoming update?
I'm saving for a ps4 or xbox one but now I know wht 2 get
Thingy Sink Dude i got this sick deal if you want something thats better and is superior, not an xbox or ps, so if you dont want this trade deal stop reading. If youre still reading, search how expensive you want it to be for example 350$ pc build, now order the parts and build.
Thingy Sink get a toaster
Don't listenen to any so called good offers, make up your own mind.
The only reason for selecting the console should be which games you can play on it, and wether or not you have friends to play the games with.
Get a ps4 untill you can spell properly you degenerate
Sigh.. @TheBigS Gaming get your act together and READ the actual comment for once
im kinda regretting buyin this ps4
Jeff the Savage just sell it and get xbox one
Malek Elias I might when Xbox one X comes out
JanEric Paghubasan Having Spiderman game as an exclusive is just embarrassing...
JanEric Paghubasan do you think everyone fucking likes a spiderman game
Jeff the Savage wait your regretting buying a ps4 because you can't play Minecraft with other people. 😂😂😂 Because most games you probably play right now will never have cross play between any system.
I openly admit I don't care for Sony and it's consoles but I do think it's a mistake for them not to have cross platform support. Thank you for explaining why they don't have that feature yet.
(I'm a hypocrite, I am looking at mh world's collector's edition for the ps4 if it will come to the west.... Yes I'm getting a ps4 just for one game.)
why not add a function that allows you to have a choice between playing just with your console and playing with other console. (for example how battleroyal games have their solo, duo and squad options) do the same with a cross platform option
I have homies on Xbox and now I cant play with them
Jeff the Savage i know your pain
Jeff the Savage your picture is the face I read that with xD
Your profile picture fits that comment (except for the emojis.)
Riffe520 Everyone says that
Jeff the Savage same here dude :(
No one wants to deal with Playstation players anyway
Or xbox
Exactly ps4 sucks xbox is way more better and the the real reason why Sony does not want Nintendo and Ps4 to play with each other is because a long time ago Sony and Nintendo worked on a console but Nintendo said bye falishia and tooked all the cridet away. BTW xbox is better
Or you.
KG FILMS. Your grammar and punctuation does too.
sony and ps4 is better in all ways ,this makes everyone think sony and the ps4 is bad , even tho ps4 has a much better game library and alway has new games , unlike xbox
I think Sony themselves are developing a superiority complex. They believe they're the best and don't realise that most of the fanbase aren't mindless fanboys
The Irish farmer :) It's the early PS3 days all over again.
The Irish farmer :) to be fair a good amount of their fan base are fanboys. I would mention pc but that seems to trigger ignorant people lol.
so, they are saying I should sell my ps4 for a PC or Xbox to open my game playing to wider community?
Not being able to moderate other users is an extremely valid concern.
FF14 is a game heavily moderated by the company that owns the game. As are the other cross-platform games.
Guess what "the company that owns the game" would be for Minecraft? That's right, Microsoft. Not only would Sony not be able to police other users, it would let Microsoft police Sony's users.
Z3rostar Well, Sony should be glad one of their best selling games is even on their platform.
Z3rostar actually id be safer with Microsoft since sony is weaker in forms of protection i mean would you trust a computer company or tv company with your info?
If Xbox can deal with their players and Nintendo can be weird and PSN can't control its people then PSN has a problem
Mojang doesn't take orders on how their game should be from Microsoft, Microsoft just owns them.
I like it how everyone wants to do cross play but Sony comes out of nowhere with a big Fbomb💣😂😂
melvin valladares happened on PS3 and Xbox 360 era Microsoft said no
pretty sure Sony was open to cross plateform in PS360 era but Microsoft didn't want to. now it's the other way around. install base is much higher thus PS4 users don't really need Xone. I'm sure if Microsoft really wants cross plateform they could just write a check to Sony and gamers would be happy.
prospineshank I heard a legitimate argument about how because ps3 online was free it had much more problems with preventing cheaters, hackers, and abusive people since you could just make a new account and get back to business. Xbox sure as hell didn't want to put it's 360 customers through that hell of credit card leaks, network outages, and toxic players flaming their community.
theiflord12350 You mean the same leaks that happened, the holiday season of the 360 launch? Why does no one ever talk about this?
I just want to Play black ops on switch with my cousin who plays on ps4 what r the chances of that happening?
This is when Sony dies.
+Juan Carlos Arreola de la torre lol no
Only out sold 3 time than xbox . #SOdead
Rick Sanchez Xbox outsold ps4 in December but switch sells more units
Rick Sanchez and Xbox One x outsold the ps4
Sony will never die and has about double as many users as x box cuz it sold way more units.... x box is trash amd lags super heavy i have both the x and the 4
sony's to proud.... and if Cross play Will be something more common, and they still refuse it, it will be their end
don't give me wrong tho, it's only the People in charge, the fanbase from Playstation is awsome, but they're under control of very proud egos
Xbox is the better buy for me. I have a pc so I can enjoy graphics and performance on certain games but on Xbox ea access is perfect if you want to play the new sports games
but the reports are going to the game server and there the server moderators can see on which platform that player is playing on
Sony. Give people an option. This is no excuse you filthy peasant corporation.
p m its not necessarily dying because of it
+p m I don't care if Xbox is dying, that does not excuse Sony being anti consumer.
TheAwesomeKielbasa philthy pheasant
TheAwesomeKielbasa lol do u know what a peasant is XD
TheAwesomeKielbasa you do know Xbox had rejected them for crossplaying so Sony are just returning the favor
the guy at Sony should have just said in plain speak fuck Xbox
xGamerGuyx fuck you
Fuck everybody
TormentedTony fuck you
TormentedTony Fuck you too
xGamerGuyx fuck you
CMON SONY WE WANT CROSS PLAY
No. We don't.
We have cross-play with PC. That's all I need. For me, Cross-save is higher up on my list of things I want.
NeedPsnCodes source
NO WE DONT. Makes no sense. WHY?! Lmao
I don't want Cross play. Cross play is going to be the death of Console exclusives. This will remove more options from the consumer in the long run.
My friend has a Xbox One and i have a PS4. If we would want to play together then we have to splitscreen on his xbox or my ps4.
Omg I guarantee you if Microsoft was the market leader they would not want cross play too!
Just look at the 360 where was there need for cross play then?
What a bunch of bullshit, tipcial exhaustive excuse there. What upcoming games you guys looking forward to? For me it's definitely Wolfenstein.
Rhys Lloyd ..i agree it look's a great movie!
Rhys Lloyd I like The Crew 2
Sonic mania, Cuphead, Sea of thieves, Far cry 5 and Monster hunter world.
FARCRY 5, ASSASINS CREED ORGINS, NFS PAYBACK AND SPIDERMAN
Rhys Lloyd Metro, wolfenstein, and the two metroid games
The real reason is cuz they were betrayed in the past by Nintendo and it was a public announcement that's embarrassing for a company like Sony at the time now they work by themselves please do your research
I'm a PlayStation fanboy or long time supporter since PS1 to PS4 even the unknown accessories
Unknown A they didn't only block switch they BLOCKED ALLL CONSELS
Sry for spelling mistakes I am lazy and mad right now I,o
Actually sony was greedy, they wanted all the credit and give nintendo nothing..
Please do your research
I'm pretty sure that the main reason that they won't allow cross platform is because they will lose ps4 sales. If your friend has a PS4 and that you want to play with him, you MUST buy a PS4 too, but if they alow cross platform, you don't have to.
I wanted to play GTA with my friends from playstation
Smalls and his homies wack stuff I don't know if it's possible for a huge game like GTA, with 30+ people per server, but yeah, that would be fucking lit
I don't give a shit about cross play, just 1 more reason for kids on PS4 and xbox to fight in comment section lol
sauron109 *within saurons mind* "god I wish someone loved me"
Is that suppose to be burn over my opinion? not wanting cross play= no one love that person? or are you trying to be funny base on my name and where it comes from?
Let there be crossplay with Playstation, Xbox, Nintendo, and PC! The more gamers united the better!
DELETED Not PC.
The more Sony connects with other consoles, the more it is unsafe to use the PlayStation console. Sony's PlayStation 4 is malware free, unlike Xbox and PC. Feel free to reply and debate with me.
Easy fix, make it an option for the people to play cross play and if they choose to make them agree to another terms and conditions that would be agreed upon between all platforms(which may be a little difficult) and put in place a system where reports on people can be processed from say a PS4 to an Xbox One player.
PlayStation just wants to earn money like if you agree .-.
ItzEli as my family have pointed out, yes it could be for economic reasons, the problem with this is seeing how many people were mad about it, it was a bad economic decision
Considering the only reason Sony isn't 6 feet under is because of Kevin Feige. I agree.
KGBeast - Sony Pictures.... Sony PICTURES.... Nothing to do with video games.
True but SONY as a whole is dying anyways and has been damaged beyond repair for 3 years.
KGBeast I'm surprised Microsoft hasn't dropped Xbox. it's their sluttiest money maker and has been a failure from release.
They let PC and PS4 players play Paragon together
ArkangelBAYEM and war thunder
...I could honestly care less about cross-play, though.
that's why they need to make a communal server and control network. That links the consoles and if something happens then you can report that player then the server reports the the respective company.
well back to xbox for this guy
SuperSaiyan QUES its mine craft, how the fuck would we be raped by pc! Lmao
Well screw Sony then. Xbox all the way
arkhamkillzone a man of culture I see
RR 2.0//rodthegamer2.0 More like a culture swine such as yourself
arkhamkillzone Yeah good luck with your games
Oh right....snap
Donald Trumpet wot I apologize if I offended u I was making a joke
RR 2.0//rodthegamer2.0 yes well it was a bad one.
Maybe its not the right business choice for sony
MLG TURTLE It would be the dumbest thing ever for Sony
It makes no sense just like on Xbox if you play Rocket league and you are against a pc player. First of all you can't message them privately and you can't see what messages they put. And they can't see what messages you put. Apart from preset chat.