Quick Strut & Upper Control Arms- 2003 And Up Crown Vic, Grand Marquis & Town Car
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- Опубліковано 5 лют 2022
- Today we're replacing quick struts and upper control arms on my 2004 Mercury Grand Marquis. It's a quick and easy job for the do it yourselfer with basic tools.
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Great how to video.easy to follow,clear pictures. I have an 05 grand marquis that needed strut replacement . Price for service center to do was expensive. Watched your video gave it a try myself.did both sides including upper control arms in about 3 hours. I live in nova scotia so it's nice to see a video that works on cars where we have to deal with rust.will definitely be following for all future repairs.
Happy to help! Thanks for watching!
Time mark 6:00....Every other Panther upper control arm video I've watched goes through the tedious process of removing the brake caliper and rotor in order to get the sway bar link off, supposedly to make it possible to "access the ball joint nut". I KNEW it had to be possible to get the ball joint nut off and put it back on with the new control arm without taking the brakes and sway bar link off. Lots of elbow grease on a good 'ol end wrench rather than taking all the brake parts and end link off, YES, it's worth it to me. Besides, a ratcheting end wrench would make quick work of it anyway. THANK YOU for showing you can do it that way...... BTW, to all those who don't need to replace the strut, but only the arm, you don't REALLY have to remove the strut to get the 2 control arm bolts out. Just remove the 3 strut top nuts, then pry downwards on the whole suspension like he does at time mark 6:52, and let the top of the strut pull down and outward, hanging it up under the strut tower. You'll have enough room to reach around the strut to get the bolts out around back. Both sides of the car must be suspended, not just the side you're working on, otherwise you'd be fighting the tension of the sway bar and it likely wouldn't be possible to pull the suspension down enough to move the top of the strut.
I have a 2003 Crown Vic LX.....takes a licking.....and keeps on ticking. Great car. Thanks for the service tips.
Happy to help
Right on Jason,
These Panther videos have a different feel with all the new subscribers. So exciting.
Good work.
-Chuck
Thanks Chuck!
Great video, finally someone with a brain. Every other video for Crown Vic struts has the person taking off WAY too much shit. Literally all you had to do was remove the upper control arm nut and you had access. Shame OEM suspension parts aren't available anymore because I need springs right now.
Thanks you sir! Much appreciated!
@@OldeCarrGuy Ah, shit. A word of caution: disconnect the sway bar end link from the sway bar. I just did the job and while I was manipulating the hub and control arm out of the way, the sway bar end link popped out of the socket on the sway bar. I was able to squeeze it back in with channel locks but the boot is permanently torn now. Hoping I can pull a fast one with part warranty at the Ford dealer since I did them less than a year ago lol
Thanks for sharing 👍. At least you didn't have to get the fire stick out. Have a great evening 👋
You got that right! Thanks bud
Enjoy watching and listening to you!
Thanks Loren
Just bought the exact same parts and then I come across this video. Perfect. I'm doing the lower control arms as well. Looking forward to it. You make it look easy.
Right on! It's really not that bad!
Thanks for sharing the video always nice to see someone else doing the work 👍
No problem! Easy stuff!
I needed to do inner and outer tie rods and thought may as well do lower control arm which led to may as well to upper control arm and finally may as well do struts too... One alignment.
I bought a 2000 Grand Marquis for $2800 American. Started hot rodding it from the get go. The first thing i did was swapped the high mileage 4.6 for a 5.4 with a performance cam from a Ford F150. Scary on the road because it has a full inch of play in the steering. Working on that now. With better exhaust following that. Hope this old car don't kill me!
Or the innocent person u kill driving a car that’s got wicked steering issues
What doesn't kill you only makes you stronger!
@@mikecrystalrobert7898 Addressing the issue now. Planning to swap out the 2.73 gears for some 3.73 and a posi too.
did my 99 plymouth breeze front struts they come complete with the upper control arm from monro. 300.00 bucks each my cost my labour. fun time watchin you. cheers bud.
Thanks Nelson!
I'm a fan of the KYB strut plus quick assembly. They're offering a rebate ranging from 25-75 USD (4 products minimum) for another month or so.
I did the upper and lower control arms on my 99 last summer, on my vacation. The 03 and up definitely looks way easier than the old style front suspension. I had to use a coil spring compressor to get the coil springs back in mine and the rear bolt for the upper control arms are FUN to get to.
I agree 100%. 03-11 is much easier to work on!
Great video as always
Thanks for sharing 👍
Thanks bud
Keep up the awesome videos jay!
Hope you didn't get hit too hard with the snow
Like #91 Very good & informative vid Jason! Now get that Marty Party Upgrade!
That's the plan!
Great job.
Thanks!
*Oh the lovely schadenfreud! Better you than me out there in the garage working on grandma's suspension with ice melting off of the fenders ffs 😆!*
No worries! The furnace was a cookin!
@@OldeCarrGuy *That's a good thing!*
Good stuff !
Glad you enjoyed it
I would like to see you do a J-Mod on one of the transmissions maybe in a couple different videos since there's a lot of information to get across and I have one just like Grandma, color and all that I have to put new springs under the back of the car car now that it's drooping! I purchased CVPI replacements since they are heavier duty!
I know of the J mod, and there are videos out there on it. I'm not much of a transmission guy, but my father was for nearly 3 decades. Maybe I could talk him into it! lol
@@OldeCarrGuy Definitely a worthwhile mod to do! made a world of difference how mine shifts and wasn't that hard.
Yes just got one my son thank you ...
Not sure but the upper ball join should have an Allen key like 6mm to hold the threads from turning when you back off the nut
Hard to beat the reputation of MOOG when it comes to things like ball joints
Even OEM doesn't carry a lifetime warranty.
How do you recommend tightening the upper control arms while loading the suspension? Can you reach the bolts with the wheels on?
It’s a tight space but it can be done! Otherwise you can lower the car onto jack stands.
Awesome vid, brother. I've been looking for a panther to replace Zelda because of your endorsement.
Well you’ve come to the right place!! 😂
Like your content!
Glad you enjoy it!
Nice video! Would love to see it back on the ground to see the final look. I put on KYB struts and moog problem solver uppers on my 07 now it sits higher 😪 help
It won’t matter what springs you put on (unless they are lowering springs), it will sit a bit higher because that’s the correct ride height. They will squat over time just the the original ones did, however, new springs in the rear should level it out.
@@OldeCarrGuy Might get front lower springs then what are people using for that on these panthers? moog?
@@acg2002us There are several suppliers: QA1 and ADTR.net come to mind!
I would say if I had the option for Motorcraft I would do that over Moog. Moog just isn’t what it used to be. But it’ll be alright for a while.
IMO, OEM is always the best option.
@@OldeCarrGuy I would agree, IF your wallet can handle it. 😂 some things are completely worth it though. One and done is cheaper that having to do it over.
Help! What size wrenches did you use? I was trying to do this today and none of my wrenches are big enough.
Nevermind, turns out you need either a 24mm or 15/16” wrench. In case anyone else is looking for this answer.
Because I didn’t use any specialty tools I figured it should be pretty straight forward! Sorry for not mentioning the sizes!
It's been about a year. How are those quick struts riding and holding up?
100% I’ve since sold the car, but not an issue.
Or u could use 6mm Alan head and insert into bottom of stud....
So i watched your video for the grand marquis lower ball joint replacement. I got a 05 p71 and I am stuck on the lower ball joint took a hanmer to it like you did and the ball joint still stuck in it. I need some help. The ball joint did start a little to come out and wont move now
If t started, it'll go! Keep at it!
10:34
This is a shot in the dark - I hope you can help.
I have an 03 town car which I am replacing the struts in. Rather than buy Monroe, I went with KYB. The KYB Strut Plus quick struts didn't have the top mount studs properly aligned with bottom mounting hole that the bottom mount bolt goes through. It's several degrees off.
Did the Monroes come properly aligned, or did you have to make adjustments there?
Do you know how to adjust the alignment in what I bought? The top mounting plate looks to be the same design as a stock OEM replacement, it's just off by a few degrees.
Oy vey. What a day it's been.
The strut mount is meant to pivot when the wheels are turning. You should be able to mount the 3 bolts and turn the strut to align the bottom bolt. May need to use a large pair of channel locks or a pipe wrench, but it shouldn't be that difficult to turn. Hope that helps.
To answer your question about the munroe, I don't recall them giving me any issues.
@@OldeCarrGuyThank you for the quick response, sir!
So it's OK to grab the bottom mount with a set of channel locks and give the cartridge a twist?
Yes! Just very your upper studs are aligned and you’ll be good!
@@OldeCarrGuyThank you, sir! I have the passenger side disassembled with the KYB strut in. The thing is, the lower mount is so out of position that I cannot get the mounting studs in place. Maybe I should use a jack to raise the lower control arm, get the studs in place, get the nuts snug on those, and then twist the lower mount.
Sound like a plan to you?
Yessir!
C00L
Can u Marty tune a 98?
I believe you can. Anything with an OBD2 port can be tuned.
One thing youdidn't mentin the foot pounds on the bolts ?
Sorry about that. Knowing when their tight comes with experience I guess. I'm sure Google has the specs out there somewhere.
Moog is hit and miss. Quality control isn’t that good with moog anymore factory and AC Delco Gold is better and more reliable and me personally I would have gone with KYB
At the end of the day, I have lifetime warranty and they aren't terrible to change.
@@OldeCarrGuy idk if they have a warranty on labor or not which is where most the cost is at on these cars if you did the labor yourself you’re gold but if you have a mechanic that charges you make sure to double check the warranty on labor for installation.
@@joshuacampodonico6554 Most parts do have an initial warranty on labour (maybe 30 days for defects out of the box). We all hove our go-to brands and Moog has always worked for me.
I hate quick struts always cheap struts and crappy springs ! Sure it's easy to buy a quick strut but shitt in the long run
I appreciate your opinion Neil. I went with Munroe Struts which in my opinion are better than the Motorcraft replacement and a lifetime warranty.