I'm loving the Panther builds. I'm restoring an 85 Lincoln Town Car hearse and its becoming a much bigger project than I planned, but it's a good learning experience. After seeing this I may need to lift my hearse, since this looks so perfect at this height.
Somebody just got themselves a heck of a winter car! Lifted, heavy-lugged tires... all you need now is a locker differential and maybe some tire studs, and you'll be all set for a Canadian winter!
I have a 95 Town Car but every time I see a Crown Vic I want one really bad. I saw one modeled after a P51 Mustang fighter plane with the nose art, it was freakin' sick
I was born and raised Chevy boy. GM in general. I've had bowties or bikes my whole life. But I work at a cement factory and my truck was getting a lot of cement dust on it, looking for a daily driver I really really did not want a Honda Civic or Accord, so I did a lot of research on different cars and one of the cars that kept on coming up in regards to reliability was the p71 Crown Victoria. I bought a normal one first for my daily driver then got a lifted Crown Victoria and I fucking love it. I mostly just drive the lifted one but wow is she fun in the back roads and in the mud pits. I'll say this: I won't bash Ford like I used to. And more so anyone who questions: " should I buy a Crown Vic" I will tell them yes. Preferably the p71 for its suspension, rear end, and ecu but it doesn't have to be. "
You can re use the sway bar and links. I reinstalled mine with the car on the ground. However I do have sway bar links that are 3" longer if your interested.
@@whitelavarballI ended up reinstalling my sway bars with the stock links. Yes you can go without them but the hiway is a 2 handed driving experience, don't sneeze or look at your phone or you'll be in the next lane before you know it. I have a 4" suspension lift and a 2" body lift.
Had to catch this one!! Looks like my baby. 99 Crown victoria with adjustable upper control arms, lift cups, moog springs, f150 shocks front/back and 265/75/16s from a Chevy Silverado..
I've had 2 lifted Crown Vics and on the rear of my current one (a 2008 CVPI) I used those spacers too, but I put them up at the top of the spring (at the frame) because that part doesn't have any lateral or geometric movement (the axle side actually kind of rotates a little bit) and then I also put Ford Excursion Police SUV rear springs to give it just a little more load control and weight capacity. I also extended the sway bar hardware and relocated the brake line brackets. (Easy) I cut the lower shock mounts off of the axle and raised and welded it back on 5" higher to compensate for the longer spring/spacer combo.( I kind of regret doing that as I should have just gone to a junkyard and cut the Spring mounts off of a wrecked car and just mounted those 5" up and kept the originals in place in case I wanted to put the longer F-150 shocks on it later. Too late now😶) Since it was a Police Interceptor I liked the heavier duty shocks that were already on it.(much larger diameter shafts and bodies.💪) On the front I just used the strut tower spacers only.(Real pain in the ass!!🤬) but I deleted the sway bar. I'm running 31×10.50/15 Milestar Patagonia Mud Terrains on 15" Lincoln Town Car rims from a 2002 Limousine.(Very strong and+offset) I had to belt sand the casting seam off of the back side of the front brake calipers (police car front brakes are significantly larger than civilian model panthers) but I literally only to smoothed the radius of the casting without digging into the meat of the calipers.(If 16" or larger rims were used or non police brakes this is not necessary) A lot of the modifications I had to do with wouldn't be needed if not using a police car.......but I genuinely beat the hell out of this car,have had it at least 4 feet off the ground several times(on the street and off road) and I just recently did an 1100 mile round trip from California to Utah and back traveling between 85 and 108 mph (on the GPS) with zero issues. (Only got a 230 miles from each 18 gallon tank of fuel but that would improve at more reasonable speeds😯)
I get compliments on my vic all the time and it has no lift. Just cut fenders with 255/75/16s on it and a 42” led offroad light bar. So much wrong with it but people love it! Good lookin car man.
Hey ocg! Loved the video brother. My living situation changed and started doing more dirt roads but my mercury is all I have and wanted to see if someone did this. so glad i found your channel! Wanted to ask what size rims those were?
Beautiful man!! Id be proud driving that!! Now just put ur logo up in the back window, some colored interior bulbs(at your preference) n ur set. Ive got red on my floor and blue up top.
Follow up? How was gas mileage affected? Did you weld the rear differential or put in posi track or limited slip? Cool build. Video of it in snow would be fun!
It was really hard to tell what the true mileage really was. I didn't take it out of town so it didn't get much highway miles. I did upgrade the rear gears to 3.27 locker which was perfect to keep the speedo semi-accurate.
That thing is insane, I love it. I've got to get another Panther to just play around with. Thanks for the how to video. Just curious, did you have to replace your rubber brake lines? Seems like the OEM lines would be stretched pretty tight at full travel.
@@OldeCarrGuy after mounting dually tires on the Grand Marquis' stock 16" wheels, I can't imagine going back to the stock size. They just clear the fenders and they really fill up that space. Your Grand Marquis will look even better being lifted.
Not a lift kit but a conversion kit from air springs to coil springs. I have a 2001 Grand Marquis LS and I swapped out the air springs for coil springs. First I swapped out the shocks to the overload shocks and reattacked them before starting the coil springs installation got a spring compressor tool and compressed them from 18" to 14" and install them. No removing sway bar or shocks. fits great. complete job to me 1 hour
Thinking about doing this to my 04 but don't want to have to cut anything. Car is in too nice of shape. Do you think 245/70R16 or LT225/75R16 which are 29.5" would work or could I get away with 30" 255/70R16?
It really is about the tire size. If you don't want to cut, you'll want to be no larger than 29"s likely. I really stretched it with 31's. But the only thing i had to trim was the plastic and massage the rear fender well.
I know this is a 2 year old video, but i had to mention that if you bought the upper and lower rear control arms for this kit, it will center the rear wheel in the arches and correctly realign the pinion angle.
Once they are in there, they aren't going anywhere! I had to compress the spring to get them in. Once the tension was released, they were pretty much locked in place.
I'd like to get my crown vic uber car lifted 3 inches. Chicago has put big speed bumps on about 50% of their side streets, and sometimes they are hidden by the snow, or the yellow paint rubs off.
How were you able to get the front sway bar links back in? On my 2003 CVPI it seems like I will need to install shims at the sway bar mounting brackets to get the geometry right. Thanks,
I like what you are doing I been thinking of getting a grand marq, or a crown Vic to mess around with the are legit the last of the big cars, I want to covert it to a carburator though.
You wont regret buying on of these, but you may regret converting it to carb. They are already one of the most reliable modern cars out there. I'd suggest keeping it stock to keep it reliable.
You think it's a bad idea? I just wanted to go old school on it, headers, 4bl Holley, rally wheels. Maybe keep the fuel injection.I just love the simplicity of it.
Did you end up putting the sway bar back on???got mines hooked up but after lift it seems like my trans is dragging I’m trying to figure out y had no problems before the lift
I love this so much! I've wanted to do this, except to a Town Car (since I already have a beautiful 93 signature) But now I have a 97 ZJ Grand Cherokee that I can't lift..... Stupid quadratrac.
May I make a suggestion? If possible aquire Chicago/New York PD pushbar ? They cover the headlights and guard the grill and have a spot for offroad lights. Now it won't take a moose , but it will make other motorists give you some space in front of you lol. Sub'd.
I'm not much on lifting the G.M. But I find it interesting, If you just raised the front the look that you have is referred to as the "Alabama Squat" ........
You don’t need to replace the front as you’re simply putting a spacer between the top of the strut and strut tower! In the rear I used f150 2wd rear shocks from the same year as my car 2003.
It's a pretty straight forward job which can be done in a few hours. The lift kit is $189, the rear shocks were $30 (amzn.to/3kt8AuA), and my shops labor will likely run $300 (4 hours @75/hour). I hope this helps.
I've been wanting to do this to my grand marquis for a few years now, but I've been having trouble finding a lift kit for any panthers pre 1998. Do you know if this kit will work for me?
This mod just hurts my brain. I don't like it, but I get it on the 'Donk' cars where the look matters more than anything else. I don't get ruining the suspension of the best riding car made in the last 30 years just to put steelies on with a rear gear that's already a turd and axles that already want to turn their bearings to shavings. On the other hand, this looks like a great mod for the small community of folks with F100 bodies on panther chassis... if they wanted a lift as opposed to the more common lowering on those trucks. P.S. the 'Donk' folk get offended if you call anything but a 71-76 Impala a Donk, but that community hasn't provided a term acceptable for other cars with the lift and too large wheels. I like 'Hot Wheels'.
Hey John. You see, it's the "Donk" cars that I don't get, but for clarification, it's the exact same kit that is used on these cars to make them a Donk. As far as the rear gear, it has been upgraded to a 3.27 locker as to help turn those big tires and if I'm being honest, it still rides quite well. I do understand that this mod isn't for everyone, but it's definitely a head turner and I love it. Thanks for watching.
Trust me! Its an extremely snug fit to get them in place. They wont be going anywhere. The axle doesn't drop far enough on its own, you would need to remove the 4 links and pry it down. But yes, you could weld them.
also you should take it to a firing range and put bullet holes in it then super glue a blackjack card in place of the emblem, then put on a rhino bull bar and put crazy lights on it along with a roof rack
How did u solve the tow problem fr fr cause it started to eat my brand new tires up so I said he'll naw. N I took my 22" off it fr fr cause I Kno for a fact u didn't just do a plan alignment fr
Hey great video! Would a 1997 Lincoln Town Car be the same as well without the airbags? I'm trying to go 28 inch wheels. Wat size lift and shocks will I need?
It was a 3" Liftabrand lift and should be very similar on the town car. You'll want to research the tire sizes to know your overall height. The shocks i used on my 03 MGM were the same year F-150 2wd rear shocks. I believe the rear suspension on the 97's are similar to my 03 but the shocks are mounted inboard the frame but should mount the same as the 97 f-150 shock.
I had a 1995 x Oklahoma highway patrol crown Vic I put 235 75 15 mud terrains on it it looked great it ran great but somebody decided to take out my front end and push the driver side of the bumper all the way over to the Ford emblem
Just wrapped up a 7 inch lift on my 97 town car. You will need to pop out the rear airbags and replace with springs plus lift cups. The process wasn't too bad overall. Currently trying to figure out how to repurpose the old air bag compressor to have a pump for airing up the tires when needed.
I just put a 3 inch lift on my 95 Mercury grand Marquis I’m trying to lift the front now but I’m having trouble getting the lower control arm to line up due to the lift kit
@@richmiller6383 Get a floor jack under the control arm and jack it. The weight of the car should be enough pressure to bring the two together. If not, jack up the opposite corner first to transfer weight. hope this helps.
Thanks for the great video I'm think about doing the same to my marquis. Was there a sway bar in the front? How dose it ride now Compared to stock? Dose it handle ok at highway speeds? Mines about as nice as your grandma car and I can't decide if it's something I should do to a car that nice would really value your opinion on this thanks
Hey! The front sway bar doesn’t come into play and the car rides not much different that stock. Maybe a bit stiffer in the rear but it still cruises like a Merc! No regrets at all! The best thing is it can all be changed back to stock quite easily!
Xavier Stewart just buy exstended airshocks especially if your going to use lift cups in rear only dummy’s use shocks for another car an can eventually cause an issue
I’m looking at doing this to my town car! I’m just worried about the front upper arm and ball joint not having enough room or hitting on something. Have you had any issues with yours?
@@OldeCarrGuy Would it be to much to ask for a suspension component update to show the wear on them so far? Mine is a 98 so I know it’ll be a little bit different but I’m genuinely curious before I drop big money on something
@@worldsokayestmechanic6631 Just put a 7 inch lift on my 97 town car to fit some big knobbies. I did need to change out the upper control arms with new ones but it gave me the clearance needed. Got the kit from Universal Car Lifts and the control arms came in the kit but you can also buy them individually.
I got a 2010 grand Marquis with air ride (factory) I want 24”s. Do I have to lift it? And if I do this will the air ride go crazy? Any advice would be appreciated. Rim shops telling me all kinds of conflicting information. Thanks.
Great video, however those don't look like 31" tires, especially at 20:48, they are actually 29"....Other vids showing 31's look substantially larger. My son had 31's on his Jeep and they are bigger than that.
It's all perspective my friend. This brand new 265/70R16 tire has an over all height of 30.8" (rounded up to 31"). When you add the weight of the vehicle, the tire does squat to 29 7/8" with 32 psi in it, which is what you're seeing in the video. Thanks for the keen eye and knowing your stuff.
If you're gonna be driving it mainly on the street and you want the alignment to be perfect so your tires last longer there is are camber kits by MOOG Automotive you will have to install because the geometry of the suspension is definitely altered. Your wheels are gonna be closer at the top than at the bottom...... But if you rotate your tires regularly it won't wear them out as quickly and if you run about 1 to 1.5 degrees of Toe In and slightly lower tire pressure it will compensate for most (if not all) of the camber.
I'm loving the Panther builds. I'm restoring an 85 Lincoln Town Car hearse and its becoming a much bigger project than I planned, but it's a good learning experience. After seeing this I may need to lift my hearse, since this looks so perfect at this height.
Right on. Always wanted to do a hearse build, but never had the opportunity. Thanks for popping in. Hope to see your around.
Somebody just got themselves a heck of a winter car!
Lifted, heavy-lugged tires... all you need now is a locker differential and maybe some tire studs, and you'll be all set for a Canadian winter!
For future reference: Put the bolts in first then attach it to the coil. So the top bolts are already in place.
I just bought a 2003 grand marquis and I plan on using your video to help install a lift and wheels! Also looking into performance mods etc!
I have a 95 Town Car but every time I see a Crown Vic I want one really bad. I saw one modeled after a P51 Mustang fighter plane with the nose art, it was freakin' sick
Towncar are better especially the newer models
I was born and raised Chevy boy. GM in general. I've had bowties or bikes my whole life. But I work at a cement factory and my truck was getting a lot of cement dust on it, looking for a daily driver I really really did not want a Honda Civic or Accord, so I did a lot of research on different cars and one of the cars that kept on coming up in regards to reliability was the p71 Crown Victoria. I bought a normal one first for my daily driver then got a lifted Crown Victoria and I fucking love it. I mostly just drive the lifted one but wow is she fun in the back roads and in the mud pits. I'll say this: I won't bash Ford like I used to. And more so anyone who questions: " should I buy a Crown Vic" I will tell them yes. Preferably the p71 for its suspension, rear end, and ecu but it doesn't have to be. "
You're preaching to the choir man. I used to dog on Fords once upon a time myself. These truly are great cars. My wife drives a 2004.
You can re use the sway bar and links.
I reinstalled mine with the car on the ground.
However I do have sway bar links that are 3" longer if your interested.
Do you still have the sway bars for sale
Also can you just leave sway bar off
@@whitelavarballI ended up reinstalling my sway bars with the stock links. Yes you can go without them but the hiway is a 2 handed driving experience, don't sneeze or look at your phone or you'll be in the next lane before you know it.
I have a 4" suspension lift and a 2" body lift.
@@TACOMASRT5 😂 Thanks I'm good then cause I do that now 💯
Looks so good with the lift and bigger tires
Right! Thanks
Had to catch this one!! Looks like my baby. 99 Crown victoria with adjustable upper control arms, lift cups, moog springs, f150 shocks front/back and 265/75/16s from a Chevy Silverado..
Right on! Hope you enjoy the progress I'm Making!
I've had 2 lifted Crown Vics and on the rear of my current one (a 2008 CVPI) I used those spacers too, but I put them up at the top of the spring (at the frame) because that part doesn't have any lateral or geometric movement (the axle side actually kind of rotates a little bit) and then I also put Ford Excursion Police SUV rear springs to give it just a little more load control and weight capacity. I also extended the sway bar hardware and relocated the brake line brackets. (Easy)
I cut the lower shock mounts off of the axle and raised and welded it back on 5" higher to compensate for the longer spring/spacer combo.( I kind of regret doing that as I should have just gone to a junkyard and cut the Spring mounts off of a wrecked car and just mounted those 5" up and kept the originals in place in case I wanted to put the longer F-150 shocks on it later. Too late now😶)
Since it was a Police Interceptor I liked the heavier duty shocks that were already on it.(much larger diameter shafts and bodies.💪)
On the front I just used the strut tower spacers only.(Real pain in the ass!!🤬) but I deleted the sway bar.
I'm running 31×10.50/15 Milestar Patagonia Mud Terrains on 15" Lincoln Town Car rims from a 2002 Limousine.(Very strong and+offset)
I had to belt sand the casting seam off of the back side of the front brake calipers (police car front brakes are significantly larger than civilian model panthers) but I literally only to smoothed the radius of the casting without digging into the meat of the calipers.(If 16" or larger rims were used or non police brakes this is not necessary)
A lot of the modifications I had to do with wouldn't be needed if not using a police car.......but I genuinely beat the hell out of this car,have had it at least 4 feet off the ground several times(on the street and off road) and I just recently did an 1100 mile round trip from California to Utah and back traveling between 85 and 108 mph (on the GPS) with zero issues. (Only got a 230 miles from each 18 gallon tank of fuel but that would improve at more reasonable speeds😯)
That's great info to share Skeeter. Thanks for that!
I get compliments on my vic all the time and it has no lift. Just cut fenders with 255/75/16s on it and a 42” led offroad light bar. So much wrong with it but people love it! Good lookin car man.
Very nice! Thanks for checking mine out. We may be turboing this beast!
I’d get some studded tires and find a frozen lake this winter and have a blast. Nice work.
Good idea! lol! Thanks James!
Hey ocg! Loved the video brother. My living situation changed and started doing more dirt roads but my mercury is all I have and wanted to see if someone did this. so glad i found your channel! Wanted to ask what size rims those were?
Right on Jon. I used 16" wheels for this make over! Thanks for watching and I hope you found the subscribe button!
Stop hating on how people want their cars to look, stick with what u want for ur car
🤣🤣🤣
Looks great . Awesome.
That lift looks good on that car... I just ordered my lift kit from liftabrand.
You won't regret it.
Thats real cool man. I almost never see these lifted cars, even out here in the sticks, anywhere i go.
That’s why I did it! To be different! Thanks for watching!
Doing something similar, so confused on parts. Great job.
I hoe this video helped!
@@OldeCarrGuy what year for shocks did you put on the rear?
@@miraalnilam9540 I've got this exact lift on my Vic. When I ordered mine from liftabrand, it came with extended rear shocks.
@@ShaqTheBoss ooo ok
Beautiful man!! Id be proud driving that!! Now just put ur logo up in the back window, some colored interior bulbs(at your preference) n ur set. Ive got red on my floor and blue up top.
That would be cool! In the process of a new logo for the channel. Stay tuned for that!
Follow up? How was gas mileage affected? Did you weld the rear differential or put in posi track or limited slip? Cool build. Video of it in snow would be fun!
It was really hard to tell what the true mileage really was. I didn't take it out of town so it didn't get much highway miles. I did upgrade the rear gears to 3.27 locker which was perfect to keep the speedo semi-accurate.
@@OldeCarrGuy That is cool thanks for the reply.
That thing is insane, I love it.
I've got to get another Panther to just play around with.
Thanks for the how to video.
Just curious, did you have to replace your rubber brake lines?
Seems like the OEM lines would be stretched pretty tight at full travel.
They are pretty close to the limit but the shocks will bottom out first.
@@OldeCarrGuy Thanks for the info. 👍
That's a great idea! It sure is nice having tire changers and a ton of tires.
It sure is! Having a blast doing it to.
@@OldeCarrGuy after mounting dually tires on the Grand Marquis' stock 16" wheels, I can't imagine going back to the stock size. They just clear the fenders and they really fill up that space. Your Grand Marquis will look even better being lifted.
Not a lift kit but a conversion kit from air springs to coil springs.
I have a 2001 Grand Marquis LS and I swapped out the air springs for coil springs. First I swapped out the shocks to the overload shocks and reattacked them before starting the coil springs installation got a spring compressor tool and compressed them from 18" to 14" and install them. No removing sway bar or shocks. fits great. complete job to me 1 hour
I think ima do a couple videos on my panther 🥳
Do it! You won’t regret it!
Thinking about doing this to my 04 but don't want to have to cut anything. Car is in too nice of shape. Do you think 245/70R16 or LT225/75R16 which are 29.5" would work or could I get away with 30" 255/70R16?
It really is about the tire size. If you don't want to cut, you'll want to be no larger than 29"s likely. I really stretched it with 31's. But the only thing i had to trim was the plastic and massage the rear fender well.
Yep I'm trying to lift mine in the rear but mine is sitting on 26" rims
Go bigger 😂 looks really nice I love the look
I know this is a 2 year old video, but i had to mention that if you bought the upper and lower rear control arms for this kit, it will center the rear wheel in the arches and correctly realign the pinion angle.
Are u referring to the trailer arms
@@polonino83 yes. The upper and lower control arms.
were the adapters for the rear springs loose; was there wiggle room for them? i want to make sure they dont move
thanks
Once they are in there, they aren't going anywhere! I had to compress the spring to get them in. Once the tension was released, they were pretty much locked in place.
Duff told me you have a good channel so I subscribed, Those tires are exactly the same as the ones on my truck. # Mortske Repair
Thanks for the sub! I Love these tires. Great grip for a rear wheel drive.
Love this idea! It’s definitely something I want to do some day
You should! You'll have all eyes on you everywhere your go!
very cool - love it!
I'd like to get my crown vic uber car lifted 3 inches. Chicago has put big speed bumps on about 50% of their side streets, and sometimes they are hidden by the snow, or the yellow paint rubs off.
I would request you as my Uber! 😂
Hmmmmm..... it's something!!!!
How were you able to get the front sway bar links back in?
On my 2003 CVPI it seems like I will need to install shims at the sway bar mounting brackets to get the geometry right.
Thanks,
Sway bar links and sway bar are not an issue with the 2003 and up cars!
Looks great I love it . Makes me wana do one aswell. How much did the lift kit cost and shocks
The lift was $195 U.S. and the F-150 shocks were $44 canadian each.
What year shocks are you using
@@josephjacquet3772 Same as the car, 2003 F-150 2wd
Where did you go to buy kit and shocks
I like what you are doing I been thinking of getting a grand marq, or a crown Vic to mess around with the are legit the last of the big cars, I want to covert it to a carburator though.
You wont regret buying on of these, but you may regret converting it to carb. They are already one of the most reliable modern cars out there. I'd suggest keeping it stock to keep it reliable.
You think it's a bad idea? I just wanted to go old school on it, headers, 4bl Holley, rally wheels. Maybe keep the fuel injection.I just love the simplicity of it.
Yes,yes,yes!
That is bad ass. Great look heavy duty
Thanks Carl.
Great video Jason
Thumbs up
Video very informative, but was wishing you did an end video around just the vehicle
An end video?
Wow you lifted your grand marquis keep doing good work
Thank you, I will
@@OldeCarrGuy you are a good person i really appreciate it
Thanks for your reply man.
Oh oh oh and on ebay they sell blacked out light housings for the front and rear and they're pretty cheap, go for it!
The crown Vic lights are cheap but Grand Marquis one are twice the price.
will these exact parts you used ( lift and shocks) work with my 02 PI ? I noticed the website list for 03 and newer
They WILL NOT. The 03 and up cars have a completely different front suspension than your 02.
Did you end up putting the sway bar back on???got mines hooked up but after lift it seems like my trans is dragging I’m trying to figure out y had no problems before the lift
Your transmission is stationary. It will not move. I did not connect the rear sway bar.
I love these cars I have a few I want to lift it just for the look
Nice work
Thanks
I love this so much! I've wanted to do this, except to a Town Car (since I already have a beautiful 93 signature)
But now I have a 97 ZJ Grand Cherokee that I can't lift..... Stupid quadratrac.
Love those old Jeeps Bud.
@@OldeCarrGuy couldn't beat it for $250!
May I make a suggestion? If possible aquire Chicago/New York PD pushbar ? They cover the headlights and guard the grill and have a spot for offroad lights. Now it won't take a moose , but it will make other motorists give you some space in front of you lol. Sub'd.
Thanks for the suggestion. I'll have to see what's out there. Thanks for the support.
I bought the same lift kit just wondering if you put the shock extender piece on the front shocks or you took it off
There were no shock extenders in the front, just the lift spacers, as the suspension uses struts on the 03 and up panthers.
Heck ya this is so awesome bud very nice
Glad you like it. Thanks for popping in!
@@OldeCarrGuy that car needs to come down to the freedom factory and do some ripping bud
That's gangster af, now put a blackout switch on it and some ir lights to drive around at night with night vision
Now yer talkin!
Would finding a longer spring be better than that spacer? That spacer looks like it needs to be welded to the diff.
It isn’t going anywhere! Both shocks would need to disconnect before the spaces would fall out
I’m seeing this late, but how did it do in the snow and not a fan of lifted trucks but this looks good.
Hi Howard! It did very well! With the locking differential, traction control and brand new tires, never had an issue!
Love it ! Perfect !
Thank you! Cheers!
Finally a decent video on lifting a panther and in language I don't have to look in the urban dictionary to understand.
I subbed to your channel. Congrats on the 6,75K subs. wish I could say that i had that many,.
Thanks Man! Much appreciated!
The rear shocks, does it matter what year f150 shocks. And are they stock height shocks
I went with stick f150 same year as my car, 2003.
Putting them same lift on a town car 2003 . Did you have any.problems.with the sway bars on the front . Mine don't fit now
Not at all! I did reuse the front, but the rear links were broken and i remover the rear bar when i did the differential assembly swap.
Man you guys back east deal with so much crusty cars! Freaking cool btw!
You know it! And I'm right on the coast as well. thanks for watching!
@@OldeCarrGuy no problem man! Cheers
What’s the width of the wheels you’re running? Trying to figure out if my stock steel wheels will worth with that tire size
They should work as my wheels are stock size.
I'm not sure I saw the shock extensions installed... you might want those..
You only need them if you're using the stock shocks. I upgraded to the F150 shock!
I'm not much on lifting the G.M. But I find it interesting, If you just raised the front the look that you have is referred to as the "Alabama Squat" ........
lol Y'all can keep your Alabama Squat.
@@OldeCarrGuy Lol....
Pretty sure that's the Carolina squat
Idk how you're getting the struts back in. 😐 on mine the control arm are hitting the struts to where I can't bolt it back in
If your car is a 2003 or newer, just loosen the upper control arm bolts a bit and push it up out of the way! Hope this helps
My upper control arm is binding with my coils what do I do
Is it binding when the suspension is hanging or when its on the ground. It should be fine one you have weight on it.
cool car im in the process on lifting my 2000 tc an i dont know what shocks i need for the front an back
You don’t need to replace the front as you’re simply putting a spacer between the top of the strut and strut tower! In the rear I used f150 2wd rear shocks from the same year as my car 2003.
how much would it cost for a shop to do this? i was gonna do it myself but i dont have any help
It's a pretty straight forward job which can be done in a few hours. The lift kit is $189, the rear shocks were $30 (amzn.to/3kt8AuA), and my shops labor will likely run $300 (4 hours @75/hour). I hope this helps.
I've been wanting to do this to my grand marquis for a few years now, but I've been having trouble finding a lift kit for any panthers pre 1998. Do you know if this kit will work for me?
This kit will not work as it is set up for strut suspension up front. I would check with Liftabrand’s website!
I have a 2008 grand marquis I want to left it I was wondering what year f150 shocks I need for it?
I believe the rear shock mounts stayed the same in the later years, so rear shocks from a 2003 f150 2wd should work.
Would it be the same concept for an 02 Grand Marquis GS?
Not quite! 2002 and older had a completely different suspension however, there are lift kits for those as well.
This mod just hurts my brain. I don't like it, but I get it on the 'Donk' cars where the look matters more than anything else. I don't get ruining the suspension of the best riding car made in the last 30 years just to put steelies on with a rear gear that's already a turd and axles that already want to turn their bearings to shavings.
On the other hand, this looks like a great mod for the small community of folks with F100 bodies on panther chassis... if they wanted a lift as opposed to the more common lowering on those trucks.
P.S. the 'Donk' folk get offended if you call anything but a 71-76 Impala a Donk, but that community hasn't provided a term acceptable for other cars with the lift and too large wheels. I like 'Hot Wheels'.
Hey John. You see, it's the "Donk" cars that I don't get, but for clarification, it's the exact same kit that is used on these cars to make them a Donk. As far as the rear gear, it has been upgraded to a 3.27 locker as to help turn those big tires and if I'm being honest, it still rides quite well. I do understand that this mod isn't for everyone, but it's definitely a head turner and I love it. Thanks for watching.
Now thats a little different. im use to seeing those lifted with 26s on them here lol
Not happening in this car! lol
@@OldeCarrGuy not going to lie. Im glad lol
You didn't have to weld the back lift adapters to the axle? I didn't see anything holding it in place?
Trust me! Its an extremely snug fit to get them in place. They wont be going anywhere. The axle doesn't drop far enough on its own, you would need to remove the 4 links and pry it down. But yes, you could weld them.
Nice. Gonna be getting this done on mine soon. Thanks for the feedback 👍
Nice truck
Thanks 👍
i want the same set up but with 24" rims.
also you should take it to a firing range and put bullet holes in it then super glue a blackjack card in place of the emblem, then put on a rhino bull bar and put crazy lights on it along with a roof rack
Now that's what I'm talking about.
i have a 2003 grand marquis that i need a lift kit and tires for, im in Kansas City
Lift-a-brand lift kit for 03-up, stock wheels and whatever tires you want (I used 265/70r16). Minor trimming is required!
How did u solve the tow problem fr fr cause it started to eat my brand new tires up so I said he'll naw. N I took my 22" off it fr fr cause I Kno for a fact u didn't just do a plan alignment fr
I simply sent it to the alignment shop and all was good. Now on 22's, there is a lot less forgiveness in treadwear than on 31" truck tires.
Hey great video! Would a 1997 Lincoln Town Car be the same as well without the airbags? I'm trying to go 28 inch wheels. Wat size lift and shocks will I need?
It was a 3" Liftabrand lift and should be very similar on the town car. You'll want to research the tire sizes to know your overall height. The shocks i used on my 03 MGM were the same year F-150 2wd rear shocks. I believe the rear suspension on the 97's are similar to my 03 but the shocks are mounted inboard the frame but should mount the same as the 97 f-150 shock.
I had a 1995 x Oklahoma highway patrol crown Vic I put 235 75 15 mud terrains on it it looked great it ran great but somebody decided to take out my front end and push the driver side of the bumper all the way over to the Ford emblem
Just wrapped up a 7 inch lift on my 97 town car. You will need to pop out the rear airbags and replace with springs plus lift cups. The process wasn't too bad overall. Currently trying to figure out how to repurpose the old air bag compressor to have a pump for airing up the tires when needed.
I just put a 3 inch lift on my 95 Mercury grand Marquis I’m trying to lift the front now but I’m having trouble getting the lower control arm to line up due to the lift kit
Ar you referring to the strut bolt or the ball joint. It Definitely helps to have a second set of hands.
@@OldeCarrGuy I am refining To the ball joint
@@richmiller6383 Get a floor jack under the control arm and jack it. The weight of the car should be enough pressure to bring the two together. If not, jack up the opposite corner first to transfer weight. hope this helps.
And its an Ultimate edition!!
Exactly!
Thanks for the great video I'm think about doing the same to my marquis. Was there a sway bar in the front? How dose it ride now Compared to stock? Dose it handle ok at highway speeds? Mines about as nice as your grandma car and I can't decide if it's something I should do to a car that nice would really value your opinion on this thanks
Hey! The front sway bar doesn’t come into play and the car rides not much different that stock. Maybe a bit stiffer in the rear but it still cruises like a Merc! No regrets at all! The best thing is it can all be changed back to stock quite easily!
@@OldeCarrGuy haha thanks man I think I'm gonna give er a go stock is just too low wish I could send ya a pic I just strapped a kayak to the roof haha
@@phantomleafblowing2741 go follow me on Instagram or Facebook. You can send me pictures there.
Nice video thanks for the Info I have a question I’m trying to lift my 2007 mercury grand marquis and I’m curious can I get shocks off a 2007 f-150 ??
Not that I know of. You need the threaded stud style top mount like mine. Go with a 2003 F150 reg cab 2wd.
Xavier Stewart just buy exstended airshocks especially if your going to use lift cups in rear only dummy’s use shocks for another car an can eventually cause an issue
I’m looking at doing this to my town car! I’m just worried about the front upper arm and ball joint not having enough room or hitting on something. Have you had any issues with yours?
No trouble at all. But depending on the year of your car, some earlier models had different style control arms.
@@OldeCarrGuy Would it be to much to ask for a suspension component update to show the wear on them so far? Mine is a 98 so I know it’ll be a little bit different but I’m genuinely curious before I drop big money on something
@@worldsokayestmechanic6631 Just put a 7 inch lift on my 97 town car to fit some big knobbies. I did need to change out the upper control arms with new ones but it gave me the clearance needed. Got the kit from Universal Car Lifts and the control arms came in the kit but you can also buy them individually.
This is exactly what I want to do to mine but mine has the air suspension just have to delete it
That's it! This car originally has air suspension.
How much did everything cost you minus the tires and wheels
I think the lift kit was around $300 and the rear shocks were $60! It wasn’t horrible.
5k subs huh...overachiever aintcha? Good gotdamn job bud
Just muddlin through life wasting money on panther cars! lol Thanks bud
How does it ride? Any swaying or alignment issues that can’t be adjusted?
Surprisingly doesn't ride much different than stock. Granted the 31" tires help cushion the ride as well.
Will the bigger tires cause any transmission or gauge problems,?
Only issue is the speedometer is reading incorrectly!
My upper control arms rub the springs in front.. anyway to fix this?
They should clearance once it's on the ground! They will rub when hanging on a jack stand or hoist!
I want to lift my 08 marquis how much did you have to shave it so the tires didn't rub?
In the video you'll see it was just plastic that i trimmed and no metal. Even then it was very little. Mostly out of the front inner fenders.
What did you end up doing about the sway bar
I just removed it!
I want to lift my front do I use the same f150 shocks
No! Use the stock struts and add the lift spacer. Only the rear shocks need to replaced with f150 shocks or get the shock extension kit.
Is it dangerous to lift your car that high ?
Not at all! It still utilized all the stock suspension components.
I got a 2010 grand Marquis with air ride (factory) I want 24”s. Do I have to lift it? And if I do this will the air ride go crazy? Any advice would be appreciated. Rim shops telling me all kinds of conflicting information. Thanks.
You do have to lift it. Just pull the air ride out it's easy.
Deezon is right! You will have to bypass the air ride.
Nice!!! What did the black wheels come off of?
They are just cheap aftermarket winter wheels.
Is the front sway bar still attached with the stock links?
yessir!
will this lift fit 26 inch wheels/rims if fender was cut aswell
It ultimately depends on the overall diameter. My setup is almost 31" overall with very minimal trimming!
I'm really thinking of doing this on my 05 how does it ride and handle now?
It's not terrible! The front is the somewhat the same but the rear seems to it a bit harder!
Appreciate the info
You bet
Great video, however those don't look like 31" tires, especially at 20:48, they are actually 29"....Other vids showing 31's look substantially larger. My son had 31's on his Jeep and they are bigger than that.
It's all perspective my friend. This brand new 265/70R16 tire has an over all height of 30.8" (rounded up to 31"). When you add the weight of the vehicle, the tire does squat to 29 7/8" with 32 psi in it, which is what you're seeing in the video.
Thanks for the keen eye and knowing your stuff.
@@OldeCarrGuy Hey great point about the squat, thanks! Looks great BTW love the MGM!
If you're gonna be driving it mainly on the street and you want the alignment to be perfect so your tires last longer there is are camber kits by MOOG Automotive you will have to install because the geometry of the suspension is definitely altered. Your wheels are gonna be closer at the top than at the bottom......
But if you rotate your tires regularly it won't wear them out as quickly and if you run about 1 to 1.5 degrees of Toe In and slightly lower tire pressure it will compensate for most (if not all) of the camber.