The Psychology of Childhood Violence: Therapist Reacts to The Boys - Why Butcher is so Damaged
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Billy and Lenny Butcher had to endure the abuse from a violent father. How does this abuse translate into generational trauma? How can you deal with that trauma in your own life? Psychotherapist Georgia Dow uses scenes from "The Boys" season 3 to explain.
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“When you're born in a burning house, you think the whole world is on fire.” I think this quote fits really well to this type of trauma
great quote thank you for sharing it
Butcher's flashback and his backstory was so powerfull, I'm sure if lenny was still alive butcher would've killed their father in front of him to show how sorry he is
Also I loved atrain's redemption arc or the begginig of it he basicly has to rewatch his actions from the other side
I felt so deeply when he told himself not to leave that it wouldn't be okay.
Butcher may be rough around the edges, and be hellbent on revenge against the Seven and Vought, but when you learn about his traumatic past, you just want to give him a hug and reassure him.
I feel the same way. I can see his hurt and want to comfort him also, he is guarded but his heart is on his sleeve
And then he has the feeling of defeat. Seeing Ryan pick Homelander over him in the finale is when it breaks, his urge for revenge drops. He dosent care anymore, he dosent even see Homelander as a threat, he just moves on to the next big bad, which is Nadia who is now the VP
I can just imagine a random person going up to butcher and trying to give him a hug and he just puts his hand on their chest and is just like “back up ya cunt” lol
That makes one of us.
So, I'm a cop, and I can't begin to thank you enough for this video. Generational trauma is something I see every day. I'm not smart enough or educated enough to speak on this subject the same way you do, but it's real, I've seen it. Lived it. Have almost been killed by it. I've seen it in fellow cops as well as gangsters. Just two of the many different reactions to generational trauma.
Thank you for your work in keeping us safe and. I hope you stay that way. It is a good thing that you recognize that it’s usually trauma and pain which causes us to do things we shouldn’t most of the time. Stay safe
@@GeorgiaDow thank you! At the end of the day, no matter what, we are all still human and deserve to be treated as such. Thanks for making these videos.
“ Generational trauma is bad” murders children and arrests innocent people because of the color of their skin
@@Boatanga I have the feeling that you need to think about breathing in order to breath.
@@Boatanga how do you know he's that kind of police 💀
Butcher is perhaps one of the most truly human characters in recent years. I feel like it has been a long time since I’ve seen a character who manages to embody all the messy parts of being human quite as well as he does.
Wonderful analysis and cosplay. Can’t wait to see your analysis of Soldier Boy and I’m hoping there will be a video on Queen Maeve somewhere down the line.
Maeve may happen in thinking of who will be my fourth one still
@@GeorgiaDow Whoever it is, I am sure it will be great. I imagine The Boys is one of those shows you can have a field day with almost any character.
@@GeorgiaDow I would love for it to be stormfront
I can’t thank you enough for this Billy butcher boys analysis this really makes my day. By the way I love your Billy butcher cosplay.
Thank you Damian. I already owned the jacket so it was easy. Happy it was noticed
@@GeorgiaDow ok that’s cool you really got the Billy butcher look down perfectly. Keep these boys videos coming.
Wow, I never knew that DNA telomeres are damaged by psychological trauma. Very illuminating…
Neither did I. I know that they play a role in the physiological aging process, but I did not think psychological factors could impact genetics.
Happy you leant something : ) and thank you for letting me know
DNA aglets.
Would think that psychological trauma would lead to physiological responses like in persistently elevated cortisol that could become cortisol resistance. Cortisol levels and insulin levels are also linked. Insulin resistance = reduced lifespan as it is connected to many diseases. Mal-adaptive responses would also be negative for telomeres.
@@youareloved1455 phineas and ferb!!!
I didn't go through nearly as much as Butcher but he and Hughie are some of the characters I've empathized with the most in recent years. Same with Jinx.
Wow. I haven't lived through abuse, but man this was a hard watch.
All the love to folks struggling with long shadows.
Very well said, Like that way to see it. Long shadows. May steal that from you William
@@GeorgiaDow Oh cool. ;)
Butcher's past is so sad. The amount of guilt he feels for what happened to his brother Lenny plus he is still probably grieving the death of Becca and now seeing Ryan choose Homelander...the man needs a hug. Great analysis as usual. So interesting
A video on Mothers Milk's OCD and PTSD would be interesting
Coming from an abusive childhood I definitely felt Billy not feeling like he deserves to be forgiven for things outside of his control, your breakdowns are always on point
Honestly I teared up watching butchers flashback. I had to leave the same kind of abuse in basically the same manner as butcher. Having to tell my sister “he loves you he doesn’t hurt you, but if I stay, one of us is going to die” is not something anyone should ever have to experience.
I love how Georgia bases her outfit off the charater shes talking about! Great vid!
Thank you!! i do try, some are better than others
Sis this cosplays man killing it with the "Ima put myself in your shoes"
awesome =) thanks
I actually have a friend exactly like this. They were abused viciously by their father, and it's clear to anyone they have baggage. They're an enigma by and large because they can show protectiveness, loyalty, even compassion, but most of the time, they can be damn ruthless. If you push a button, even by accident, they can verbally tear apart your insecurities. They can lie very well, having done it with teachers and other authority figures. They have massive anger issues. They can bear a grudge for maybe the rest of their life. They fought a lot as a kid, and are damn smart too. Despite this, they seemed to really hate bullies (despite being kind of a bully themself). They seemed to hate being alone. They were over at my house a lot, and most surprising, they were more respectful to my mom than anyone else. From what they told me, they're in therapy nowadays. If so, good on them.
Very accurately described
Heavily physically abused from a young age. It’s hard to explain to others how it works when my mood changes but this is spot on. I feel as though I’m being the very thing that had hurt me when I was a child.
It feels as though even when I try to give people warnings of “you are on mighty thin ice right now”, I can still see the confusion and fear on peoples faces from the tone of my voice and stern words.
It is a terrible thing and generational trauma is a hard cycle to break. I hope you find your peace and take the time to let yourself heal from it all when you are ready to. Thank you for sharing some of your story. It helps others know they are not alone
This hit my nail right on the head. I was physically and verbally abused so badly when I was little I ended up packing up a little bag and running away from home.
u can't go back and change the past but u can live now and change the future.
this hits so close to heart
Beautifully said !!! Poetic and true
For another potential The Boys video idea I'd love to see you do a video on Maeve and all the trauma she goes through throughout the first 3 seasons since it seems like her character arc wrapped up this season.
This one broke my heart. I know Butcher was trying to protect Ryan by pushing him away and it was absolutely the WORST tactic he could have employed in every conceivable way.
Yes I felt the same I felt ryans heart break in that moment
Came for the analysis, stayed for the cosplay 😊👍
That episode was hard to watch, but fulfilling at the same time. Provided alot of character building for Butcher ...
Like others have said ... the flashbacks hurt. Sometimes you can see the patterns repeating but you feel so helpless to stop them :(
thanks for watching and I hope you enjoy the other videos. Happy you liked the mild cosplay
I dint even thing that connection that Butcher see Heroes as his Father and it is well made. the more i go deep in this series the more respect i have for this Very nice analysis Georgia.
thanks so much =)
Thank you for this video, both for its nerdy pop culture value and its educational and honestly therapeutical value.
I was raised by a single parent, my mum, who was deeply mentally ill and had a lifetime of severe trauma. I was raised my whole life being led to believe i was a bad kid, its only been through talking to my wife in these last few years that ive realised i was abused. My mum screamed and swore and threatened me almost every day, she punished me every week, she hit me every fortnight. She would abandon me to live with other family members for a month whenever she couldnt handle me. And my entire life ive had extreme anger issues, i started anger management therapy when i was 4 years old. I feel like im constantly only 5 seconds away from rage and my mum led me to believe my whole life that i inherited my anger genetically from my dad. But these days i know that my anger developed as my self defense mechanism against my mum. Nothing gets me angrier quicker than someone shouting at me or giving me attitude, and i know now its because its the defense i developed as a little kid to try and hold my own against my always aggressive mother. I hate my anger, i hate snapping at the people i love, i hate that in a room all by myself i can still get so angry i want to scream. But im getting better, im getting better for my wife and for the kids we hope to have. And i don't resent my mother, i now suffer with many of the mental health problems she does and i can't imagine what it would be like to raise a child alone, on welfare, during a 15 year long mental health crisis. She did the best she knew how to do, and now its my job to do better for the people i love.
Love the jacket! = ) And, as always Georgia...you have demonstrated that you are the epitome of love and patience, empathy and understanding!
thanks so much CL = ) it is one of my fav jackets
Love how they show'd the cycle of violence playing out during Butcher's mindstorm trip by editing the scene of Butcher's father beating him and the scene of Butcher killing Gunpowder together
How does someone who decided the "flight" option when they were a child who faced trauma deal with it as an adult? And what sort of attachments do they form?
Watching Billy interact with his brother and father it made me realize why Billy fights the Supers. Billy hates bullies. He hates people who abuse power. He sees the Supers as bullies that need to be put in check.
I know I've heard of telomeres in relation to aging - makes me wonder if a Butcher who hadn't been through this would look younger.
Yes. The effect of shortening of telomeres due to severe psychological factors are what coined the phrases
" Been thru alot" and " Had a hard life".
This is also a major part of what we call "STRESS".
Your formative years can shape how you see the world
My view is f****** scary
Past a certain point my dad became an alcoholic and my mom was a drug addict.
So they would sell my stuff just to get more messed up.
Seeing my father convulse in withdrawal seizures is something i'll always remember as a kid.
I didn't have tics before but I developed them when I got older
It's hard to act normal when you remember the things you should forget.
It's hard when you forget the things you should remember
im sorry that happened to you, yes it changes your outlook in the world. I hope you have given yourself the space to work through this
This video. Really helped. I kinda relate to butcher. From the abusive father/parental issues to the protective nature towards his younger brother.... really hits home. Thank you for the insightful video. And respect for having the ad at the end. Honestly: a mark of a confident and insightful content creator. Video and information first; ADs and sponsors for later. It feels more, professional that way, in my eyes. Gives more clarity to the intention of said creator.
YYYEEESSS!!! I knew you were gonna cover this scene the moment I saw it! Loved your analysis!
It was such a great scene I had to do it
This is probably my favorite sub-genre of character analysis. Looking at characters through a realistic, psychological lens is astounding to me. Btw, how’s your progress on My Hero Academia coming?
havent started it at all yet. Will see I am so backed up on shows. And thanks it is a lot of fun to use shows to help teach about psychology
I want to hug him
So do I =)
I really appreciate you making videos like these. I'm eventually gonna go to college to work on becoming a therapist. while you weren't the original motivation, you were one of the final nails in the coffin for my choice, so thank you for helping me finalize it, you're a great content creator
that is a wonderful compliment thank you so much. I wish you the best in your schooling in this wonderful field
Billy butcher knows his childhood experiences made him a monster but he is a monster that hunts other monsters (the supes) and when they are all gone he will happily join them
We don't need brilliant, we have you.
But seriously I continue to be so impressed with your panache. These are topics I'm well versed in but you've got the 'something something' that lends a kind of confidence even to the 'thought known'. I really appreciate your videos; Thank you so much!
I completely wasn't prepared for this video.
Love your channel, I'm very grateful for all your work it helps me alot.
Especially as a young father it helps me to understand what could i better than my my mother for my lil boy.
I would need a therapy but time and money is an issue for me. I'm very thankful for all the heart you put into your work
God bless you, I wish all the best for all of you ❤️
I would love to see if you could maybe do an analysis on Noir's scenes in season 3, I feel like that's also an interesting portrayal of trauma.
I’ve been having a really hard year and experiencing loss and feeling like ones who passed away I let down since I wasn’t always there for them, it was refreshing to see the same emotions I’m feeling now are normal and can be helped, thank you so much.
I’m sorry for your loss. I hope you have good supportive people around you and know it’s okay not to be okay. Thank you for your time in sharing this. Loss is so hard and I’m sure others dealing with this as well felt comforted to know they are not alone
So, so LOVE this! Thanks for analyzing one of my fave shows, Georgia!😘
Happy you enjoyed the video it’s a great show to analyze
Thanks…I have learned so much from your reaction video series. I appreciate your insight. Blessings on your day.
I'm so glad!
Wow, this was a heavy episode, but also a powerful one! Helpful for me and hopefully for others. Awesome work!
Glad it was helpful!
Congratulations on 100k subscribers Georgia Dow !!!
Thanks so much I’m too excited about it as well
Amazing analysis as someone who struggled like butcher as a kid his character really draw me in because he's very close to home.btw great cosplay.
I just found this analysis… great job! I’m new here so I’m not too sure if you’ve done anything from Cobra Kai… but an analysis on Terry Silver or John Kreese and how the deal with ptsd would be awesome!
Loving your channel btw!
9:54 fun fact: i can't remember where i heard this but the sound of a kettle screeching when water is ready is cinematic shorthand for time running out, so when that sound plays in the background of this scene it's telling us that these were lenny's last moments, you know now that i think of it this actually isn't that fun of a fact :(
thank you for your work !
Where you said that when your flight or fight always your emotions get more harder control I literally so get that 👏🏼👏🏼
I saw the thumbnail, and for a second there, I thought you were telling me "Don't be alternating current."
I honestly feel like you nailed the analysis great video
thanks so much
im really glad you exist. i wish i could find a purpose like you
Thank you for the kindness. I hope you do as well. Think of what you would enjoy and work backwards from there. I’m blessed but for a long time I didn’t know what my purpose was btw so don’t feel the need to rush
This was a powerful video! I wish I could put comments in on Nebula!
Good Job!
When they showed butchers past I teared up because I experienced abuse growing up
This one hits so close to home
When I learned about Garth Ennis, specifically his hatred of superheroes and love for characters like The Punisher and John Constantine. I started to see Butcher as a cross between The Punisher and John Constantine and see Garth Ennis as a real life Hero Killer Stain, who in case you don't know is a supervillain from My Hero Academia, that thinks superheroes are just in it for the fame and that he's doing the world a favor by killing them.
I hope you don't mind another comment about my problems with The Boys, I love how you're helping me realize why it's such a triggering franchise. Also I'm Autistic and tend to go on and on about things.
Yes there is something also appealing about those whose super power is their intelligence an wits as well. I appreciate you sharing and commenting, so share as often as you would like to =)
@@GeorgiaDow It shows that you're pretty good at your job, if you could help subscribers like me via internet comments.
Another great video Georgia! I hope you react to Everything Everywhere All at Once!
i did not realize when i clicked this that would be learning So much about myself. thank you kindly. subbed.
Yay !!
Thanks for the vidio, love the jacket. Keep doing the great work
Thanks you
Do you think you'll ever do one for Zeke Jaeger from Attack on Titan? I've always been fascinated by his character from a psychological perspective.
I was just curious what your therapy background was, and found your bio. I won't Dox you, but I love that you listed the year for your birthday as every year. I was also happy to see that your credentials checked out. I wasn't expecting them not to, but I like to check credentials on people who speak as professionals on youtube, in order to avoid getting pulled in by fake experts.
If you experienced such a thing you'll probably ended up as a psychopath. I got bullied when I was a kid luckily my family always got my back and stood up for me especially my grandma. Childhood abuse is such a bad experience for some people it's hard to overcome the fear I got social anxiety because of that I can't make friends or a girlfriend because of the trauma.
This is what exactly I thought out loud, to others they believe it won't effect the future version of oneself. But it does.
I've been distant all my life but I dont know what would happen to me if something happened to my little brothers
Our dad was alot more distant than he made me but I'm glad I was able to help my brother's learn to not let it get to them.
We may not talk alot but I know they're strong, stronger than me in alot of ways, I'm so proud of them
While I overall did not enjoy the boys, I did enjoy the ways in which it explored the impacts of trauma on an individual. Butcher's self loathing and perpetual fear of hurting people or becoming his father mirrors my own. Being victimized is horrible thing to experience. Victimizing another in the same way you were can hurt a great deal as well. While in the former case you can take some comfort knowing those things aren't your fault. In the latter I at least can't or won't give myself that out.
In eventuality, you become that which you despise, whether you realise this or not.
I've seen this happen so many times.
I thinkt he reason The Boys works where other adaptations don't is that they tell their own story without losing the point and simply adds layers on top of the characters from the comics. They aren't "Just changing stuff" or adding things that are unnecessary.
I was four years old when i was abused and it makes you more aggressive, anxious and untrusting. Anxiety, ptsd and depression...made it hard to connect to people.
Yep, when I was a teenager I physically removed my mom's ex boyfriend from her house. Getting in fights and veing the outcast really hardens the heart. I don't tolerate disrespect. Now I'm in my late 30s (and Happily married) I'm healing that. Butcher is a complex character that I find relatable.
This bring back my childhood memories 😔😢🥺
Oh =(
This video is very amazing and this person is very amazing
Butcher reminds me a lot of my younger self. Growing up I had extreme anger issues, especially after my parents separated and my sister and I started switching houses every week. My birther was an alcoholic with her own unhealed trauma that led to all sorts of verbal and emotional abuse. By the time I was in Middle school I'd gone to the principal's four times for threatening or attacking another student who was bullying me (not a lot, I know, but I was also terrified to get in trouble because my birther had spanked and yelled at me to the point of tears in the past).
Now that I'm a little older I've mellowed out a lot and don't express anger very often -- I can still blow up, but I'm far less likely to threaten or hurt others -- and do my best not to treat others as I was. I don't like causing pain, and are pretty much a pacifist when people cause problems for me if I can help it. Butcher still shines through sometimes, in that I'm extremely protective of the people I love, which apparently is pretty scary to see according to the one time I felt the need to step in.
I still sometimes fall into those behaviors, especially if I get frustrated, but it always makes me feel guilty and terrified I'm turning into my birther. Butcher is such a relatable character, and while I can't really watch the show properly I enjoy seeing all his facets and complexities
Would you ever consider doing these types of videos for the show Cobra Kai? That show is all about generational trauma and I'd love to see you do an analysis on Some of it's characters!!!
again, thank you.. you have been doing some stuff I can't watch because I know it will be a spoiler....but never the less, thank you
I love your character cosplays
I love your analysis could u do frenchie next ?
I think maeve will be next
i love how you dress up as the character your discussing
It’s amazing how she can cosplay literally ANYONE she analyzes.
Hehehe thanks =) such a kind compliment. Some are more successful than others but I enjoyed them all
Sometimes I really feel like I’m crazy. Am I the narcissist I fear, am I the crazy person I’m most afraid of? Sometimes I really don’t, I’ve tried my whole life to see things from other peoples perspective but does that make me an empath or a psychopath? Sometimes I feel confident that I’ve found the answers to these questions but then there are other times I question and doubt everything I’ve gone through and everything I’ve put everyone around me through, Idk I guess I’m just in a place I’m lost right now. Thank you so much for your videos🙏🏼
I would first say mostly all narcissist are proud to be one and dont feel bad about it so it lessens the chances of that we are all sometimes mean cruel and angry though so thats normal. Keep being kind to yourself as you find your truth
I would love to see you do an analysis on Andrew Detmer from Chronicle.
You're really smart, I never made the connection about butcher protecting people from supes steming from protection against his father. I've got to rewatch it now
thanks =)
An interesting video essay.
those who never felt the warmth of the community, will burn the world to feel it
Oh wow, such a in-depth video, I appreciate this a lot.
Is it possible to just forget skills of you don't use them?
& i Love the cosplay 😍 ❤
thanks Grimm yes you can forget skills though rarely is this completely there are usually remnants of pathways there.
@@GeorgiaDow oh I get you, thank you for that 😀
Beyond is another show u should do one day it’s really good
Will you do a video on soldier boy or even peace maker
Soldier boy is next
Billy Butcher in the show is nowhere near as bad as Billy Butcher in the comic. The comic Billy Butcher is 100% worse.
really I havent read the comic. i cant even imagine.
@@GeorgiaDow he does show a lot of love and care for his dog that’s largely kept out of the show, in the show they’re continuing on with his fear of being close to things he loves.
@@GeorgiaDow in the Comics his wife Becca was the only calming influence he really had. In the comics his wife becomes pregnant with "Homelanders" kid... only thing is its not Homelanders its Black Noirs. In the comics Black Noir is a clone of Homelander whose there to if necessary kill Homelander if he gets out of control because Vaught knows Homelander is unstable. However Black Noir being Homelanders clone dresses up as Homelander and does a lot of horrendous acts as Homelander to drive Homelander crazy so that Blsck Noir can kill him. Along the way it drives Butcher crazier than he was already. Becca dies in "Childbirth" and when I say childbirth Ryan was born by lasering his way out of Becca and Butcher was the one that found her. Its at this point Butcher wants all supes dead.
He is bad enough to hurt badly the people he cares for and try to comit genicide against all supes with a bio weapon in the comics
Pretty much everyone is worse in the comics. They're mostly just "superheroes bad" rather than trying to tell a compelling story.
I remember something from The Boys comics, Butcher was killing a Super and they tried asking them to stop. Butcher said "it ain't me. I'm somewhere else, watching it happen. It ain't me"
You gotta do a video about Green Goblin, Venom, & Carnage
If you haven't already, could you please analyze Hunter from The Owl House? I know it's a cartoon, but there is a surprising amount of trauma and abuse to unpack with his character.
Will you do a Hughie Evaulation?
Another show of childhood trauma is Soldier Boy and I'd really like for you to look at how Soldier Boy talks to Homelander vs how Homelander talks to his son. At points I felt that HL was deliberately trying to do the right thing for Ryan
I know it’s a very heart breaking scene and that it was homelander it happened to
You know who I would love Georgia to analyse? Kreia. I would love to see an analysis on her, both on her view on life and on the woman herself.
You mean Darth Treya? The lady who has 3 lightsabers spinning like phantom limbs and doesn’t lift a finger?
@@Darth_Bateman Yep. She's a *fascinating* character, at first you get the impression that she's just an evil character who constantly lambasts you for being nice, and although some still say that, I think she has a very interesting philosophy for why she acts the way she acts. One I think she takes too far in many ways, but one which still has merit.
The Butcher has a soft spot in my heart. I know a lot of men that suffer like him. I so wish they would find a way to heal.
3:34 so what doesnt kill us litteraly makes us weaker
I love it, but… can you do Hughie next?
Damn this one honestly hit me really hard. It makes sense why I like butcher so much
Wow, lot of information to process. Makes sense tho
I deeply understand the childhood trauma aspect of this, since it's something my brother and I experienced as kids. My father was emotionally, mentally, and verbally abusive to the whole family and still is till this day as an old man. I shut down instead speaking up and making sure my feelings are heard and validated. I made a promise to myself when I was small to never be like my father and to this day still trying to unlearn all the anger and hate. The biggest insult someone can say to me is that I'm just like my dad, just as the biggest compliment someone can give me is to say I'm just like my mom.
I am happy you are out of it now and you stopped the cycle. Sorry that you had to endure this. I hope it wasn't too hard to see the video
@@GeorgiaDow It wasn't difficult and you gave such thoughtful advice and insight on the matter as you do in every video. Even when addressing difficult topics you always seem to find the silver lining, it is wonderful to see such openess and empathy. Thank you.
it what I hope to accomplish in the videos thank you for letting me know. it makes what I do worthwhile
Great video. I can't tell if that's a leather jacket, overcoat, or a leather overcoat?
leather overcoat =)
@@GeorgiaDow Thats cool
Really interesting video also idk why you look like Jesse Faden from Control
I just started playing the game =) You may see a video on it coming up