USS Maine (1889) - Guide 322
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- Опубліковано 15 гру 2024
- The Maine, a unique armoured cruiser of the United States Navy, is today's subject.
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Pinned post for Q&A :)
What if the Spanish went through with their original plan to order 6 of the Pelayo type battleships? Would (and could) this have affected the Spanish American War in a way that would have benefited Spain? And also, if the Spanish did acquire the originally planned 6 battleships, would this mean that they would not have ordered the three Infanta Maria Teresa class cruisers?
Was there ever a plan by the Allies to give Katsuragi (the fully complete Unryu) or any of the near-complete Unryus to Nationalist China as war prizes?
If Renown and Repulse replaced Hiei in the night battle of Guadalcanal could they have made it out and could they have done more damage?
When did sailing ships lose all of their crew? When looking at historical crew counts for even frigates like USS Constitution, the numbers of crew is above 300. However, when looking at ships like the Carroll A. Deering or the Wyoming, crew counts to man a 5/6 masted sailing ship barely reach a dozen. Why is this?
I recently visited USS Yorktown in Charleston. Along the hull, in paired columns 5-10 yards apart along the whole length are what appears to be eyelets. What are these used for?
Love the intentional timing of "with no evidence at all" being paired with the picture of the newspaper saying "all evidence showing Spain involvement"
I find it reminiscent of the "firey but peaceful protest" in front of a burning building, "clear evidence of russian collusion," "the laptop a repairman gave to the FBI is obviously fake" and "evidence russia blew up its own pipeline" stories. Very emotional pieces that got alot of traction and motivated many people, which imediately fell apart when subjected to actual investigation and were promptly forgotten about (except by those that were slandered)
Hey, Joe Biden has been in US politics long enough to have been involved in the sinking of the Maine .... though if that were the case, he would have blamed the russians rather than the spanish.
@@ronaldthompson4989 Ah, the sort of factuality that led to claims of the Capitol Insurrection attempt of 1/6/2021 as being just a "tourist visit"?
And by the way, Russian involvement in the 2016 US election is a fact, and admitted to by the Russians.
It's a History Matters level of cheekiness
Fun fact... Yes😁
Yellow journalism is the term and still thrives today. Pullitzer was a huge fabricator of Spanish involvement just to sell papers.
A memorial to USS Maine crew members killed in the explosion is located at Arlington National Cemetery and includes Maine's salvaged mast. President Wilson dedicated the memorial in 1915.
I saw it when I visited Arlington back in 1988.
And her foremast is at the Naval Academy in Annapolis...making her the longest ship in the Navy. 😁
@@jshanna01 Yeah, I remember that joke when I spent some time at the Naval Academy, when somebody would ask "What's the longest ship in the US Navy?".
Sounds like it wasn't the "Maine" one
@@JTA1961 ba dum tss
I read the book by Admiral Rickover - my old boss - about the Maine explosion right after it was published and, like pretty much everything else he did, it was well researched and thought out. I highly recommend it.
My dad met Admiral Rickover once once and NEVER forgot it.
Some Ensign tried to throw his weight around against the commissioned 'pleb' that was my dad, the Flight Orderly aboard that R5D-6. The old guy in a suit he likely assumed was a civvie whipped out his billfold to show his ID as then-Rear Admiral Hyman Rickover and then very firmly set the shiny-not-even-an-LT straight that the Orderly was half a step below god in that compartment and told him he didn't want to hear another word out of him for the rest of the flight. As far as my dad remembered, he didn't make another peep.
@@Cemi_Mhikku Ensigns can often be rock stupid. On my frigate, a shiny new Ensign once told my ET Seniorchief that the Seniorchief didn't know how the radar worked! The Seniorchief was actually one of the coauthors of the then-current radar manual used in the tech school! Seniorchief took Ensign Crap-For-Brains into the radar room and we dogged the watertight door. We could hear the vocal fireworks. That young Ensign got his butt handed to him. A knock on the door and we undogged it. Both men stepped out. Seniorchief's face still red with anger. Ensign's face was white. He never gave Seniorchief any guff again. He did turn out to be a decent officer later.
@@lancerevell5979 All too often that's what it takes.
I've read it and also recommend it.
@@lancerevell5979 I once received a reprimand from a Navy Chief. It was in lieu of going before the boss, an Army BG. It was really verbal counseling and did not enter my record. The Chief was polite and formal, but also serious. He explained how my error in judgement could have jeopardized the unit's security clearance. I admitted my mistake and promised not to err again. I was an Air Force Major at the time.
"What can we blame on Spain? We'll blame the Maine on Spain! So they blamed the Maine on Spain."
The blame for the Maine falls mainly on Spain.
It only caused a small pain to blame the Maine on Spain.
History of the world nailed it.
All the while rain falling mainly on the plain in Spain.
@@andrewmcalister3462 Excellent.
Sorry mister Drachinifel but it still burns me up that the best channel on American warships is done by a Brit. Thank you for all the time and effort you put into your videos and thumbs up. Have a nice day.
Not just US warships either ^_^
@John, Ya know, I'm 55 years old & constantly pay attention to this channel. I've never been in the military much less the Navy. I've never even been out at sea on a fishing boat either. But I have never given it a second thought that Drach is from the UK & not the US. In my opinion it doesn't matter, it's almost like being racist to think about it like that. He has a passion for warships and the history surrounding those warships. Lately I've noticed a lot of sites trying to copy what he is doing. And although it shows how successful he is with what he is doing, it has also irritated me that these people can't just find their own way, and that they have yo copy someone that is already successful. There is a saying "Without love in a dream it will never come true." Drachs video's are very well written. They are done with intelligence and he has a good story telling voice. I've listened to him tell about the naval battle of Samar as though he was a fan of Captain
Evans. And anyone who knows that story, how could they not be. One of my favorite stories is "The Lord of the Rings" & I've never cared that it was written by a Brit. It just doesn't matter. The statement just urched me is all cuz he's an intelligent human being, nationality shouldn't matter. Maybe because he is a "Brit" it does make it a little more difficult to research vessels from the US & countries not named England but evidently it doesn't seem to stop him. I would say he's a gem, but idk, maybe a Pearl is a better description.
Passion seems to help a lot. I remember watching a TV special on Midway and I came away thinking Drachinifel made the better product.
It also helps that in general, America has always had really impressive toys of war, and a lot of them.
And the best source of American tanks is an Irishman! The Chieftain.
Guess they're just built different on those rocky isles.
One of my distant relatives was on the USS Maine when it blew up and his remains were never identified. He was a coal stoker in the engine room at the time of the explosion. I've been to the gravesites in Key West, Florida (some of the wounded were transported to the hospital in Key West and later died being buried in the local cemetery.) and I've been to the Maine Memorial at the Arlington National Cemetary (his name is listed with crew members who died).
Great epp as always. Former Navy guy here, learning a lot from you. Thanks
Whoa, Mark popping in on Drach's channel! Big fan of both channels.
Not many ships get sunk twice. Well done Maine.
Oklahoma would like a word...
More than you might think.
@@chrissouthgate4554
A right surprising number TBH.
@@Easy-Eight The General Slocum would like a word. That wretched thing sank three times, and is most definitely haunted. Or cursed. Or both. Probably both.
First time it burned and sank, and killed over a thousand people with fire, defective firefighting equipment, drowning, or defective life vests that often fell apart as soon as anyone tried to grab them, or, instead of containing cork, had been filled with miscellaneous floor sweepings and iron weights to pass minimum weight inspection. It is still the second worst loss of life on a US waterway, and the worst maritime disaster in New York City history, until the Titanic several years later. Seriously, there were stories of the desperate parents putting some of the few intact life vests on their children before helping them over the rail, only to watch them vanish into the east river. The Captain pulled a Costa Concordia a century before it was cool and abandoned ship, leaving his passengers to burn or drown or both. Despite the mountain of malfeasance, fraud, collusion, and reckless, rampant, self-serving greed, the company got a fine that barely constituted a slap on the wrist, and the only person to see jail time was the captain, who served three and a half years before being pardoned.
The General Slocum was, out of respect for the dead (HAH! They were disgusting immigrant poors!), re-floated and converted into a coal barge named Maryland... which sank five years later, in a different river.
Maryland was, out of respect for the dead, refloated and put back to work. She sank two years later off the coast of New Jersey, this time in water sufficiently deep to keep them from refloating her.
French Commandant Teste sunk (including first scuttling) three times.
William Randolph Hearst said to remember the Maine but never mentioned rosebuds
He also told his reporters, "You supply the pictures, I'll supply the war."
@@jeff7.629 - he was probably the first to say that - but he was not the last
I live that biopic.
Being from the State of Maine, I've been awaiting this particular 5 minute guide. Maine has a long and proud nautical tradition and is home to Bath Iron Works Shipyard, which constructed one of the very first Fletchers, DD 449, USS Nicholas (which incidentally is my family name). Having a "battleship" named for our state was a great source of pride, and I believe some of the silver service, which was presented to the Maine made it back to our,state after the accident which destroyed her. Throughout the state there are relics of the ship including guns and mast parts. And I believe her main mast is located in Arlington National Cemetary.
A Second USS Maine, lead ship of her class was commissioned in 1901 as BB 10 and had an unremarkable career which ended in 1922.
We just missed out on a 3rd battleship during WWII. It would have been BB 69, one of the enormous Montana class battleships. But the great age of battleships was coming to an end and the 3rd USS Maine was canceled.
Our state has also had the honor of having SSBN 741, an Ohio class ballistic missile submarine named for our state. She is still in commission, as far as I know.
The US Navy changed the naming convention after battleships were decommissioned and assigned State names to nuclear capable submarines.
Thanks for doing up this guide Drach, as usual, brilliantly done.
Always glad to see more pre-dreadnought era ships!
For a nation that invented the Monitor, is strange we would forget how to put a turret on the centerline for 40 years.
In the Maine's case though; it was in part due to having to pack in a lot of stuff on a relatively small hull, shile still wanting fore & aft firing arcs.
The munitions stowage though... yeah~ that was definitely a costly mistake.
Not the style or mind set then
The monitors the USN had built had centerline turrets.
@@CorePathway machine spaces in this time where so large that it, in combo with need to keep top weight down, center line turrets where deemed suboptimal with the technology at hand.
@@Tuning3434 I blame the fact they planned it to have sails, hence masts. The turret weighs the same regardless of placement, or are you saying it would have to be mounted higher, raising the COG too much? (USS Monitor didn’t have this problem 🤣)
9 years to construct, probably around 6 years late, obsolete on commission and still "more powerful than anything else in the US fleet". This begs the question: Just HOW bad was the rest of the US fleet and, by extension, the Spanish one?
Pretty fucking bad, a lot of our fleet still comprised of ships with sails, even with the steam engines.
Well, to begin, see Drach's video titled "Armada Options"
Answer: it was pretty bad, and deployed kinda poorly.
My understanding is that the US fleet was pretty trash and still vastly outclassed the Spanish at the time. Obsolete ships, underdeveloped doctrine and logistics, and poor gunnery were hallmarks of both.
The USA in 1898 was basically a paper tiger. The regular US Army had less than 50,000 soldiers and a fair number still were armed with the post American Civil War era .45-70 1873 model "Trapdoor" rifles. The USA had nearly gone to war with Spain in the mid-1870s over the *Virgilus* affair, the USA was illegally smuggling arms into Cuba. While the public reason for the US Navy's return was Brazil the real reason was continuous issues with Spain. Personally I can't stand the US involvement with the Caribbean. Like the Europeans discover in Africa, there was no profit in occupying Cuba, Puerto Rico, or anything else of Spain's. There was some serious talk about ceding the administration of the Philippines and Spanish Caribbean islands to Germany. Real shame it didn't happen. Germany needed a dose of tropical island life to lighten up. The USA did not need to go down the road of becoming an imperial power. The poor Philippines didn't need to become the US Navy's brothel.
@@fguocokgyloeu4817 The Spanish ships the Americans face on Manila were wooden ships. So yeah they got curb stomped.
William J. Hearst is the real life version of the villain from the old Bond film: "tomorrow never dies". It wasn't taught in grade school that it was him who spread the idea that the Spaniards bombed the Maine.
For those wondering, his company also owns Popular Mechanics up to this day.
The funny thing is that we have historical examples and proof of media misleading the public for (reasons)... and yet with the technological advances and powerful capabilities that we have today... it is still called "a conspiracy theory" when you ask "cui bono?"
Hearst was also vehement advocate of racism against Asians, and successfully lobbied to get hemp banned because it threatened his monopoly on paper mills.
We also have Rupert [censored] Murdock and his vile spawn now.
@@ricardokowalski1579 Ricardo
@@evanulven8249and we now have "alternate facts".
"...[number of] men the food of sharks"
Haha, now that is some W.R. Hearst newspaper gold right there!
The ghost of William Randolph Hearst does not approve of this video.
I however do approve and have looked forward to a video on the Maine for a long time.👍
I was really hoping you were going to say "... where the head of the the House Naval Affairs Committee said 'We must not allow-an ironclad gap!'" Dr. Strangelove may have become a part of my soul. 🙃
This Saturday's ship guide was explosive!💥
It deserves many a-COAL-ades...
Take this like and get out.
The main mast of the Maine is now the flagpole at West Point. Its the only base in the Army that has a navy segmented mast as the base flagpole.
Most of the Maine is at the bottom of the ocean. One of her anchors is on display at a park in Reading, PA and the captain’s bathtub is on display at a museum in Ohio. There are quite a few other artifacts scattered around the country as well.
Wow, didnt realise the explosion was that large! :)
where in ohio?
@@thurin84 Hancock Historical Museum in Findlay.
@@thurin84 where is Ohio?
@@phinhager6509 No one knows really, some think its in Canada.
I really appreciate your channel,as a Australian i have not heard of so many of these ships and probably would never have,cheers
My great grandfather was a new lieutenant on the Maine when she was lost. Fought in the Spanish American war went on to serve until WW1.
I wrote my first thesis for my BA in History on the USS Maine as a catalyst for the SA War. In recent years, as a travel writer, I have been amazed at the number of USS Maine artifacts scatter all over the place, from guns up in Alena, MI to a porthole lid in a small town museum in SE Ohio. And, of course, several commemorative plaques in veterans parks made from melted down metal from the wreck.
The bow emblem(?) of the Maine is right up the road from me in Bangor, Maine, mounted on a piece of granite in a park dedicated in memorial to the Maine.
Thank you for uploading this video Drac.
Thank you, Drachinifel.
Ahh, William Randolph Hearst, the Rupert Murdoch of the Victorian era. Things don't change.
Accurate.
Nah, in the Victorian Era someone would have shot him by now.
While both men prefer spewing disingenuous sensationalist garbage for the sake of ratings, Rupert Murdoch seems to be also motivated by genuine, albeit terrible, politics. I don't know if the same was true for Hearst.
Howdy Drachinifel, As a Warship entusiast myself I Love your Chanel! About the USS Maine, very interresting that it was built in response to Brazil aquiring the Riachuelo. I think most subscribers would lvove to see a video on the Ricahuelo... but, While the Ricahuelo had a rather ordinary carrer, her little know smaller half sister, the Aquidaban, completed in 1887, had a much more active carrer that, I think, would make for a very interresting subject for one of your videos. For a start the Aquidaban sank in 1906 in much the same way as did the Maine! She participated in 2 navel revolts in Brazil during the early 1890's and, in the last one was torpedod and sunk by the torpedo gundbot Gustavo Sampaio, wich was crewd by a mix of brazilian navy personal and foreigng mercenaries. Hope to see a video on these little know vesel soon! :o)
You are such a tease. You have a real niche in marketing museums.
As others wrote, I too have been waiting on this one. Although I was kind of hoping for a video of a Hood or Pearl Harbor level of detail. While not lost in the heat of battle, the incident did spark a war that straddled the globe. Of course there are many videos on the subject, but Drach always delivers new details and deflates myths.
Kortan
The ship design shown at 1.00 instantly made me think of a galleon with a trireme prow below the waterline.
About 60 years ago I got a plastic build-it-yourself model of the USS Maine, expecting it to be the ship sunk in Cuba. It was certainly presented as such. But in fact it was the battleship Maine that was built early in the 20th century, named after the sunken ship!
I'm wondering if the company that produced it even knew the difference between the two. That said, getting a model of that particular pre-dreadnought would be kind of cool (or for that matter, any pre-dreadnought).
@@hellhound47bravo3 Ugh 😣
Maine status: remembered
You remembered the Maine!
Craft
Nobody expects.... the Spanish Inquisition!
Pieces of the ship are on display at places across the United States. I live in Oakland, CA and for years had been riding my bike past a modest monument in front of the Veterans Memorial.
Yesterday, I stopped to look at it, and it turned out to be a bronze torpedo port from the Maine!
I blame Deep Ones, one of their cities is just off the coast of Maine near Innsmouth.
Not anymore. The US Navy torpedoed them.
Been waiting on this, thanks!
Why ?
Spare a thought to Northern Greater Brazil, the country that never was... :D
I think America with more samba dancing might interesting.
After reading all 3 investigations into the sinking. The coal fire is the most likely. If I recall.. The one article noted that most of the outer hull plated in the area of the explosion was blown outward and some of the inner plate was blown inward. So a coal fire was the most suspect in the cause. Or possibly a coal fire explosion??
Coal won't explode, it will just burn. But if it burns into something that will explode then that's a problem. They used coal as a sort of "just in case" armor, trying to store it on the outer walls of wherever it was contained just if a shell so happened to penetrate into the coal store area it gave a degree of protection from it going any further.
@@CatNibbles Coal won't explode, coal dust however will. It depends on the state of the bunkers and how much dust there was.
@@simonwaldock9689 Yup. Coal dust in a compartment - though the proportions is a factor - is one of the oldest examples of an accidental fuel air bomb.
Tis one of the various reasons why Railway & other types of coaling stations tended to damp the coal with water, so as to reduce the dust as much as possible.
(besides the fact that workers dying in [as then untreatable] agony from injesting coal dust makes for terrible PR)
watched a show about the main awhile back. one thing i noticed was that the hull plates were bent well inward at the sight of the explosion. the show tried to play it off as because of the inrush of water. considering the shallow depth i found that explanation unlikely. been looking for said show or pictures of the are of damage on the interwebs for awhile now with no luck. cant seem to find any good pics of the damage area out of the water.
The dust could explode. If the coal bunker was designed as protection for an ammunition magazine and in proximity to the engineering spaces, as the bunker is emptied it becomes a volatile area especially if there is lax discipline regarding the dust.
The media not letting facts get in the way of a good story.
Plus ça change, plus ça la meme bleeding chose.
the more things change, the more they stay the same.
@@thurin84 That's the one.
If it bleeds it leads. Actual facts? Boring!
@@phaasch Where are you from !?😮
Scroll and Shield from USS Maine are in Bangor, ME
Lived in Maine for a few years. If you’re in Bangor, go down to the Penobscot River. There is a small park where the bow of the Maine is on display.
Lol
I need to finish the Combrig kit of her I started years ago. Correcting the shape of the barbettes exhausted my enthusiasm, though.
I've always wondered how a duel between Russia's Rurik and Maine would play out...
Launch the skiffs, Rurik would exhaust its stores fighting off the Torpedo Boats. Be more interesting if they actually used the two spots for Torpedo Boats.
@@westcoaststacker569, Rurik carried a pair of torpedo armed picket boats herself, interestingly.
@@tomlindsay4629 Seem the Rurik would have an advantage having been built after the Maine sunk in British yards able to accommodate a proper length (529') for front and rear turrets. Thinner but more advanced Krupp Cemented Armor plate.
Seems Armor was close to equal if 6" Krupp is about equal to 10" Nickle. I don't know the difference of Krupp Cemented? More and larger secondary guns, faster etc...
Seems pretty one sided.
I was being silly earlier in reference to the Kamchatka, as you probably knew.
@@westcoaststacker569, I was actually thinking of Rurik I of 1895, 4 eight inch guns, 14 six inch, barque rigged, 10 inch armor on the belt and transverse bulkheads, 19 knots.
Great design for commerce raiding, not so great when faced with an opponent that can lob a decent weight shell.
Maine and Rurik's various strengths and weaknesses make for an interesting comparison.
Excellent--thanks from Texas!
Drach please do a video on the whole saga with the Maine and the investigations
The fact that in approx. 1890, the 6,682 ton, 324 foot long, Maine was found to be a *half knot* slower than designed, was exactly the kind of thing that prompted my question in the last drydock. Cheers.
Some ships fight in wars. Some ships end wars. And this one _started_ a war...
I've been wanting to see this for years.
Hemp
Thank you.
Thanks and thumbs up.
being born and raised in Maine, would love to see an episode about CA-33 USS Portland :)
Scott
The correct pronunciation of Riachuelo is “ree-ah-shoo-eloh”. Of course you were not supposed to know. Keep up this excellent chanel.
I don't know if the Maine has the most memorials of any US Navy ship, but there were certainly a lot collected and posted in various locations. A gun and spare propeller blade are outside the Museum of the United States Navy in Washington, D.C., but curious enough, my current residence of Woburn, Massachusetts (I'll let you guess how you pronounce that) features one of the ventilation cowls in town center.
I've driven by many times and not realized it was there. Must try to walk around it next time.
@@davidb6576 If you're talking about Woburn (hi, btw), it's in a white box on the "north" side of the roundabout (the part that faces towards Winn St/Burlington)
Still hoping for a guide to the Mississippi (BB-23) and Idaho (BB-24) , lots to discuss and lots of pictures available online.
As you said in this video, you talked about maine having a sailing rig, I was rather interested in her original concept and wondered what she would have looked like with sails, I know from images and some books that it would have been a barque rig without a bowsprit, sort of like the barque rig on Uss Newark when she was completed. It does make you wonder if she had been laid down in 1886, launched in 1887, and possibly commissioned in 1888 or 1889 that she could of possibly been completed with this sailing rig. During the 1880s commerce raiding was still the way forward for the American navy, so cruisers had to have the cruising range, with also the lack of coal stations, sails were needed for this role, she did count as an armoured cruiser then, so maybe if she had been completed earlier she might of been completed with a barque rig. Would of sure made her look pretty with all that canvas! 👌
I've been waiting for this one! Thank you for the fun read on a ship that was a perfect example of 19th century American disinterest in, 'Projection Of Power'.
On another note, Have you done anything on Theodore Roosevelt's youthful obsession on the pre civil war American Navy and the book he wrote on the subject?
Quite an impartial video.
Drach: 9 years to commissioning after being laid down!
Me in 2023: That's actually quick these days.
Richard Martin
If you ever visit Arlington National Cemetery you can see the foremast of the Maine.. there is a memorial to her crew and the mast is the centerpiece..
Chevy
I have a copy of the Rickover report.
A case could be made that all of her guns were part of her Maine battery.
Take my like and get out *XD* .
ooofff.
@@thurin84 lol
I can't say that I can think of any of your videos that I don't like, but these guides remain my favorites from you. Thank you for these and it's fascinating to see this about Maine.
Lewis
Some things never change…
Awesome, thx for this Drac it was good..
A ship that kicked so much a** they had to take a lunch break between salvos..
Baugh
Thank you for another very informative video. It sounds like Mr. Hearst. Never let the truth get in the way of a good story. If you would, please consider doing a video on the battleship the USS Arkansas.
John 😮
another great job! thx
FYI- The Maine's mast is on display at the Naval Academy in Annapolis.
The _Maine_ was an unremarkable battleship, now mostly remembered for her tragic and mysterious end.
but don't forget the high number of people who died with it
Awesome thanks 👍👍
Poor Maine. Her legacy is yellow journalism and exploding.
A very valuable series of lessions at least can be gleamed from both aspects ~_^ .
Riachuelo pronounces as "Riashuelo". Ch in portuguese is normally equals to sh in english.
Nice one!
I’ve always loved the transitional look of the main. It looks like a wooden ship made out of steel with guns on the right and the left instead of center line, and the white paint and the gold trim. Beautiful, practical ? No! Beautiful yes.
Nelson
one of the most famous 'Casus Belli' in world history.
Last words heard from the magazine room - Sailor put that cigarette out !
Peter E
Wonderful seeing you today on the New Jersey Drach! My wife took a quite nice picture if you holding a 5” 38 spent casing. How can I send it to you?
Her for mast is at annapolis,MD
Saw the bell from the Maine many years ago. Was visiting a friend in NJ and we went (this was 1972 so a bit foggy) to a beautiful old house and mounted on a pedestal in the back yard was the bell from the Maine...I think house had at one time belonged to the guy that had the salvage company that salvaged her. Don't know if it is still there or not.
Adams
I'm puzzled. If the wreck after salvage was re-sunk and was then rediscovered in good condition , what was the cause of the explosion and sinking? Was there any reevaluation of the damage to the rediscovered wreck?
Yes, the salvage included taking pictures and analyzing such details as the curvature of bulkheads bent by the explosion. It clearly was internal. When he says it was re-sunk and then rediscovered "in good condition", he means it has not deteriorated underwater as much as some in the Caribbean.
@@gregorywright4918 Wright 😮
Remember the most important thing in the magazine is the “No Smoking” sign.
Reading "Empire by Default" it seems to me like the situation was spiraling steadily into a war and the Maine's explosion simply hastened matters. If the Maine doesn't explode I think the war is only delayed until that fall.
RIA-SHU-ELO. RIA-SHU-ELO!
Oh, I think I remember this
Remember the Maine!
Propaganda at its finest. And it worked very well. The media was inciting war even back then.
And to hell with Spain!
"Who could forget it?" The Sundance Kid
My father severed on the Clemson class USS JOHN D. FORD DD228 during World War 2
This would be an excellent ship it profile
Thanks Deach
I have to admit the idea that the US blew up Maine as an excuse to declare war isn't helped by the speed the usually underfunded US Navy swung into action and how their ships were so well positioned to take advantage of that declaration.
A certain future president (Teddy) was angling for a war before the incident even happened. So yeah certain elements in the navy were waiting for an incident to justify war. The Maine had a coal fire accident, and they pounced on it.
Nor, does it help when we learn that the best friend of Teddy Roosevelt predicted an explosion in Cuba any day now, two weeks later the USS Maine would explode. ua-cam.com/video/pmT99iOxekU/v-deo.html
@@razorburn645 ua-cam.com/video/pmT99iOxekU/v-deo.html Best pal of TR , Henry Cabot Lodge Sr. predicted an explosion in Cuba!!
I think TR sped it up as .he was assistant sec to navy, and his best friend in politics Cabot Lodge predicts an explosion, we long have known USS maine bombing was a false flag
Any chance we could get a breakdown of her sinking similar to what you did for Hood and Arizona?
Speed 👋
Remember the Maine. The men aboard her! Other than that it only shaped everything in American, central American and Pacific relations up to today.
God save the King. And welcome to the USA 🇺🇸, Drachinifel.
BarnWell
If you think Maine took a long time to enter service, consider the gestation of the RN's new carriers, QE and PoW.
I remember!
If Brazil reacted to the US predreadnought building program with a building race could the two of those fleets reasonably gotten big enough that the Royal Navy had to react to it in their building plans?
Given that Britain was building most of South America's warships in this time period I'm sure we were well ahead.
No. The Royal Navy had the teach the U.S. Navy how to properly fire their main guns when the U.S. entered WW1.
@@SCOTTBULGRIN As I recall the US was fine with shooting them. They just needed to fix the a problem with the US shells that was found during test firing.
Gib
I imagine it wouldn't have been much fun on the bridge if the forward gun turret shot cross deck. The muzzle would have been just about on the centerline.
USS Keukuk would make for an interesting video. I probably didn't spell that right.
"The us committed terror to itself to justify a war" is an explanation that sounds like a broken record at this point.
Wow, for a ship that was obsolete when it put to sea it ended up being pretty good value because it got the US an empire in the end.
Charles
Please refrain from blaming the reign of Spain for the pain of the Maine again.
Mich Cav
It was an unfortunate accident that led to war. People died in a war that never should have happened
“Remember the Maine” would make a great tshirt. We’re still blowing things up and blaming others.
"Armas de Destrucción Masiva."