Concessions In Tavush
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- Опубліковано 19 тра 2024
- In this episode of the Civilnet Podcast, host Patrick Elliott and Eric Hacopian unpack the border delimitation agreement with Azerbaijan starting in Tavush in Armenia’s northeast corner, followed by the landmark International Criminal Court case against Azerbaijan. They finish with the ongoing hunger strike by Ruben Vardanyan from his prison cell in Baku.
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Pasha Yan has to go
Pashinyan has to go. We can no longer afford to have him as PM
And who is a competent leader to make a better job?
@owlmirror178 forget competence, who is not worse?
Wanting to be a politician is bad enough. In the 21st century? Armenian politics??? Not anyone whose read Armenian history books and a brain will want that.
Yes, 100%! He's an incompetent, weak and dishonest politician that has betrayed all Armenian interests!
Competent leader is Bever! Intelligent, intellectual, patriotic professionals!
Thank you ! It is so obvious even for ordinary people to see common sense how to handle situation . How the head of the country taking that position ??? It is a red flag!
Pashinyan simply doesn't care about protecting the country's borders or its people! At this rate, we will lose all our lands to genocidal regime in baku!
Nikol HAS TO GO! HE SOLD HIS COUNTRY!
Никола надо арестовать за государственную измену!!!
get his name right, his name is NikolOglu
Leaving the POWs out of the peace process is a joke. This guy is desperate for a win and he will sell his land, own people, his wife and children for that.. I'm just wondering why no one has given him the Nemesis treatment.
Too many Tavajans in Armenia .
1st, there is no guarantee of "no war" if he gives away this land. 2nd, there is no certainty that the land in question belongs to azer. Pashick shouldn't be giving away land without anything in return especially when the azers are sitting on good expanse of Armenian land.
a frank assessment of our state.
nothing is being done the right way.
the bleeding continues
This was brutal and honest
Eric I’m surprised you didn’t you connect the dots in your commentary?
Why didn’t the Armenian “State” - at the very least- try to get POWs out from the demarkation concession they appear to be making with Baku?
This seems like an incredibly obvious opportunity that has not been addressed by the media.
Eric has talked about this previously. In this interview seems they were just trying to stay on one topic, ie. regarding demarcation of giving land to get back some land (unfortunately not happening either, we are only giving, but what can we do, they have Israel on their side).
NikolOglu or Pashinyaneva needs to go
Why did he run for election, for the second time, after losing " the war"? This is a question that doesn't make sense to me. Where is his moral responsibility. We know why he won, and how he played "նախկիները", but thats not the point.
Stop Pashinyeva
Check your balls. You may save them in Russia.
Great interview Eric!
I think lots of us admire Ruben Vardanyan working for Artsakh. He could have been doing something for himself instead of sacrificing his freedom. But we also want to know if had any other motive like using Artsakh as stepping stone for his political ambitions.
👍👍👍👍👍👍 Всё так, действительно так! Нас заставляют делать шаги. Им всем по... за чей счёт, им главное "прогресс".
Thank you thank yuo so much of you how you accurately describe the situation
Great work!
Don’t you think that pashinyan is a Russian-KGB source and does what they ask
You don't think that Pashinyan is much under Azeri, Turkish, Russian pressure??? Sounds childish to blame him as a Russian or Turkish or another agent.
Объявить вотум недоверия Премьеру Пашиняну, его роль в защите интересов 🇦🇲 провальная.
Voting for Russia and their Armenian puppy dogs is a much more failure
Borat, iz zat you?
👍👍👍🇦🇲🙏
Stop censoring comments
These guys speak as if Ruben was a hero. Weel perhaps he's their hero. It's well known that Ruben is an infamous figure internationally considered a crook man.
И Запад и Россия поддерживают границы начерченные большевиками !
Paşinoğlu acilen durdurulmalı
Türk müsün?
@@ibadetismayilov3511 Biraz düşün Türk olsaydım Paşinoğlu'ndan niye şikâyetçi olurdum?
Please interview Arthur Khachigian.
It seems like the war non stop-is what a new country Azeri stand for. But Armenians living here by centuries. Azeri now destroying all Armenian heritage.
Let's be real Eric, I know you have always thought of Pashinian as a great, honest, democratic president, but you have failed to recognize his main weaknesses. Let's talk about his poor leadership in handling foreign affairs and recognizing his wisdom and knowledge and experience in diplomatic matters.
He is not even democratic. He's been jailing his own citizens who speak or act against him.
In other words , he's not perfect. Do you know anyone that is?
Pashinian is the best so far, you should compare apple to apple , corrupt Armenian old government is gone . Any government official have advisories , they are not diplomats or politicians like Trump , he was a president but he was a businessmen , not politician . People talking about heroism right here , they don’t even live in Armenia . It’s easy to talk but very hard to act .If tomorrow Pashinian declare war , are those big mouths will take a weapon and go the war . I am sure all will run away. We need peace not war , some times you should give in order to receive . We should not be driven by emotions , we should use brain
But who set that Pashinian is perfect . We need to compare apple to apple , can you compare Pashinian with corrupt previous government? It’s 360 degree difference. We should be happy what we have sins we seen terrible one . Today Armenia is very advance democratic country because of Pashinian .
@@silvamnatsakanyan3774 we should be forward looking not backward. Comparing Pashinians catastrophic decisions with his former predecessors is not the way to justify his irreversible mistakes. He shall be judged without bias if we want the best for our country.
It's unfair, if not malicious, to suggest that Bagrat Srpazan is cooying Nikol's in marching to Yerevan. With the same token, one could say that Nikol copied Musolin8's march to Rome. May be it's time for you to realize how deceptive was the so-called "revolution" instead of forcing arguments in an attempt of saving whatever you try to save of the ruins it left.
The rate at which Armenians are loosing territory, my medical school YSMU in Yerevan, would soon be in Azeri Territory! 😢
😢 I am very worried about that. Azer needs to be pushed back. I don't see that happening anytime soon by this administration. 😔😔😔😔😔
We need time
@@georgebeglaryan1636 1000 лет хватит?😂😂😂
Pashinyan is a Pasha in a yans clothing
One of the rare interviews where i disagree with almost all of what Eric said.
Would have been nice to challenge his positions more.
But anyway, thanks for the interview!
So if Pashinyan does not give the land back, and a full scale war breaks out, wouldn't that feed right into Aliev's playBook? Are we ready to go into a full scale war? Furthermore, Eric, would you send your sons to fight on the border given the current military balance?
Good questions.
No war will come is a bluff , fearmongering only. This all is bc of our incompetent leaders we have now
There is no guarantee there won't be war if he gives land away. On the contrary. The more he caves in to this arrogant rhino bully, the more the bully will want.
If Armenians didn't give their sons to fight the Turks, despite the military balance, there wouldn't be an Armenian state today. You cant achieve anything great without a great sacrifice. Same with the first Artsakh war.
Землю надо вернуть пр...о😂
Ruben is also ok Ukraine sanctions list for supporting separatism in LNR/DNR
Evidence???
Who cares! Your ukraine is allies with dictatorial azerb!cjan and has been selling them weapons for decades.
@@owlmirror178 he’s on Ukraine sanctions list
That’s enough for me … if you care for your research I’m not gonna write an essay here
We need to replace pashinyan but with a democratic leader - not with one of serjik’s or kocharyan’s corrupt minions
Patrick Elliott! These interviews are fast becoming charades because you keep launching puff questions in Eric's direction instead of challenging his line of reasoning with meaningful retorts. He says Armenian kids will be playing right near the border and somehow Blinken isn't worried about it. What has this got to do with the question? Would Eric's position on this issue be different if Pashinyan got 20 villages in return for the 2.5 he gave? Kids would still play near the border if there will continue to be villages at the border. So regardless of what you get in exchange, the problem of security persists if we'll have villages right at the border. We get it, you would negotiate differently than the current gov does. Maybe you would bluff in the game of chicken, maybe you wouldn't blink like Pashinyan did. We won't know I'd that would have been better or worse, and from whose perspective, those whose sons are in the army now or those who sit far away and pontificate. The fact remains: the duly elected gov is conducting the negotiations in the way it sees fit. By all means, criticize the approach but stay logical, don't tell me that the main issue is that Armenian kids will play near the border.
Says a defeatist
Любыми путями избавиться. Времени больше нет. Найти язык с Кремлём, лучше худой мир, чем война.
Isn’t there a reason to be intimidated though? Is it just paranoia on the part of one man?
Spot on. Once bitten, twice shy. And Pashik is bitten enough to know what happens if he doesn’t obey the Ali Bash Komandan. He knows the result on Armenia and on him personally. Its very different from demagogues like Eric, who always knows “the right way” but will never be accountable for his poor opinion.
@@magsud9763and you know it better, as we can read😂
@@owlmirror178did you get here by accident? Go give you advice in Baku
Эрик в очередной раз обосрался 😂😂😂
OMG this dude that does the interview needs serious schooling. The way he talks, the tone of the voice, the speed, the content…. I want to know which university produces these type of “professional journalists”. With all respect, dear kido you need to brush up on your skills. This is embarrassing
He's actually an excellent journalist and very refreshing the way he gets to direct questions in a short amount of time. You should watch some of his other interviews, especially ones where he interviews military analysts, he asks very relevant questions and procures very good insights.
It’s very easy to talk , especially when you don’t live in Armenia. If tomorrow Pashinian declares war , will you and people like you take the weapon and go the war ? Will you ? I am confident everyone will tan away . Thats the truth , and Pashinian knows that too . Than this same people will blame Pashinian for starting war and loosing thousands of life’s instead of giving a very small pice of land . Pashinian dose what ever he thinks it’s right to be done and that’s it
Говорят на древне армянском языке😂😂😂😂😂
Way do he call it the Ukraine war or did Russia invade Ukraine so way don't you call it that