The TOG II was basically built like that because the designers thought there would be trench warfare like in the first world war which the original tanks were constructed for. Next thing you know, Germany introduced the world to faster paced conflict where there would be advances of several hundred kilometers in a few days where you'd be lucky in WWI to advance at least five or ten within that same timeframe!
80 long tons (81.3 metric tonnes) make the TOG II heaver than a fully loaded Challenger 2 MBT which is one of the heaviest operational tanks in service today at 73.8 long tons (75 metric tonnes) fully loaded with it's combat armour modules.
The Ratte was basically just a design study, they didn't actually plan on making it. Just like the later H-Class battleship designs (H-42 onward). They wanted to see exactly how big they could make something until it became completely impractical. Which is funny because they already had and produced a tank that was impractically large and suffered for it...it was called Tiger 2. Yes I am an absolute tank history nerd, what about it XD
@@churchA.I It was only a good tank based on armor and firepower. In all other categories it failed as not only as a vehicle but a tank as well. It was essentially a mobile bunker that broke down exceedingly often and couldn't cross any bridges. The thing was an immensely stupid 75.5 short tons during a time when even the US Army's M26's couldn't cross most bridges in Europe when it was only 46.2 short tons. If you placed the thing out in a field and forced enemy tanks to roll directly front onto it yeah of course it'll win but after that you'll have to abandon it where it is because it can't cross bridges, it's absurdly slow, it's a horrendous drain on the already failing German logistics, it's engine is both incredibly hungry and overstressed, and worst of all it suffers from what basically every German heavy or late war medium tank suffered from. It was practically impossible to perform maintenance or repairs in the field due to the inaccessibility of vital parts that required the tank be disassembled to reach them. It is only a good tank in a vacuum. It was not worth it's cost nor weight in steel and was routinely knocked out by tank less than half it's weight due to the fact they could grasp the concept of attacking it from the side or rear where it was impossible to armor the thing adequately. The only tank shells it was stopping from the side were early war anti-tank guns like Allied 57s, 2pdrs with the Little John adapter, and the American 75mm at most. Meanwhile the American 76mm, American 90mm, the British 17pdr, Soviet 85mm, Soviet 122mm, etc would blast straight through the side armor. It was not a hard tank to outmaneuver and most were encountered broken down or out of fuel in the first place because of the utter impracticality of the vehicle. The thing weighed more than an M1A2 SEPv3 Abrams during a time when the world's infrastructure (bridges, loading cranes, etc) was struggling with tanks half it's weight. R.P Hunnicutt rated the Tiger 2 as the best tank of WW2 in direct combat only. He also rated it the most impractical tank to actually see service during the war due to all the logistical headaches it caused and the fact that once a tank got at it's side it was helpless. And I do mean helpless, the rate at which the Tiger 2 could turn it's turret was pathetic. Without the automatic turret drive (which was prone to breaking down) it barely managed 6 degrees of traverse per second. With the turret drive it was capable of up to 18 degrees per second however it was prone to inaccuracy and was never used for actually gun laying due to the jerky nature of it's movement and it's unpredictability in stopping prone to under or over rotate to what the gunner actually wanted. This was quite honestly a joke considering the M4s of various types they were facing had a minimum turret traverse of 26 degrees per second with the drive which was accurate and reliable enough for gun laying such that it was doctrine to use it, unlike the Germans who would use their own to get roughly on target then fine aim with hand-cranking The Tiger 2 was not a good tank. It was a good mobile bunker. It could kill any tank it so much as looked at and most tanks would struggle to penetrate it from the front which caused an immense fear factor but the Tiger 1 and Panther for all their faults were much better vehicles the problems with which are commonly overstated. Germans struggled with the weight and reliability of their tanks but in cases excepting the Tiger 2 those complaints are often blown out of proportion. Take for example the rather common "engine fires" point made about German tanks. Some had this issue throughout the entire war, the Tiger 1 and Panther did not.
I thought you were going somewhere else with that German Engineers line, and I got worried, but I’m glad I was wrong. I’ve been watching/listening to a fair bit of Lazerpig (He’s a historian on UA-cam, yes really) and he talked a fair bit about the myths about how the Nazi’s were coming up with all sorts of possible space age weapons BS. So I’m glad you didn’t fall into THAT extreme rabbit hole and instead only mentioned the Ratte.
In Russia in Saints Petersburg's Hermitage there is a vase so large and heavy, that they can't remove it from the museum. Not only that, but they also first got the vase inside... And then built the entrance and the rest of the museum around it.
5:49 I mean, it may as well be a ship that grew treads given the sheer SIZE of it and its armaments. Calling it a "Land Cruiser" is pretty good a conveying how over the top it is.
I mean the guns they were planning to put on the tank (the 11", aka 28cm, SKC/34s) were quite literally used to arm the Scharnhorst/Gneisenau class Battleships/Battlecruisers (people still can't agree on what class they were because the German word for the ship literally just translates to "armored ship").
I’m glad I play my life like Guily Gear where I’m able to combo break by just pressing two buttons at the same time, if the tension in my asss is high enough.
Contrary to common and misguided believe, Germany don't have a chance in winning WW2, the image of heavily mechanized force is partially false since while they do concentrate equipment for their mechanized force, most of their supply lines relies on horses due to a severe lack of trucks (something that the Allies did not have problem with), their big cats are simultaneously over AND underengineered with how bad their parts are and how awful it is to repair them, especially since half the time they broke down on their own (some Panthers pressed for Kursk literally caught fire while being moved from railcar), and the biggest reason they won the Battle of France is because the sheer incompetence of the allied command, and cowardice on the French High Command
Yeah small rodents during maternity are psychos just waiting to spring. To be fair, according to their point of view, if a predator finds the nest, it's better to "recycle" than just abandoning the poor sods
Mr Chillzone jack ibn Chillzone. Wonderweapons don't win wars. Wunderfaffe will never win wars. Germany declared war on 3 of the greatest powers of that time; at the same time. Long term strategic planning was never their forte. Say what you will about Operation Barbarrosa but Bagration actually broke the enemies Army.
From here you just say that there is literally a history video that explains the engineering of war 2 the German tanks the German tanks and the they literally explain that today and modern times since Germany has access to worldwide resources they're modern day tanks now are superior to everyone's do everyone's tanks like all over the world there tanks are supreme To everyone else's tanks everybody else's tanks are not on the same footing or equal caliber of those tanks
Man it be kinda chill in this zone
What are we, some kinda Chill Zone?
Its chillin time
Yo dude, you must have joined The empire. It is pretty chill after all.
@@stoked-6996 loved it when he chilled all over the zone
This zone is under some seriously chiling
The TOG II was basically built like that because the designers thought there would be trench warfare like in the first world war which the original tanks were constructed for. Next thing you know, Germany introduced the world to faster paced conflict where there would be advances of several hundred kilometers in a few days where you'd be lucky in WWI to advance at least five or ten within that same timeframe!
13:17 Clip it, rip it, I don't care. SOMEBODY NEEDS TO TURN THIS INTO A SOUND EFFECT.
Agreed
80 long tons (81.3 metric tonnes) make the TOG II heaver than a fully loaded Challenger 2 MBT which is one of the heaviest operational tanks in service today at 73.8 long tons (75 metric tonnes) fully loaded with it's combat armour modules.
While having frontal armour comparable to a tiger 1, big L
The Ratte was basically just a design study, they didn't actually plan on making it. Just like the later H-Class battleship designs (H-42 onward). They wanted to see exactly how big they could make something until it became completely impractical. Which is funny because they already had and produced a tank that was impractically large and suffered for it...it was called Tiger 2.
Yes I am an absolute tank history nerd, what about it XD
Tiger 2 was a good fucking tank, fight me, yeah it had issues with engine and size, but dear god was it a terrifying menace on the battlefield
@@churchA.I It was only a good tank based on armor and firepower. In all other categories it failed as not only as a vehicle but a tank as well. It was essentially a mobile bunker that broke down exceedingly often and couldn't cross any bridges. The thing was an immensely stupid 75.5 short tons during a time when even the US Army's M26's couldn't cross most bridges in Europe when it was only 46.2 short tons. If you placed the thing out in a field and forced enemy tanks to roll directly front onto it yeah of course it'll win but after that you'll have to abandon it where it is because it can't cross bridges, it's absurdly slow, it's a horrendous drain on the already failing German logistics, it's engine is both incredibly hungry and overstressed, and worst of all it suffers from what basically every German heavy or late war medium tank suffered from. It was practically impossible to perform maintenance or repairs in the field due to the inaccessibility of vital parts that required the tank be disassembled to reach them.
It is only a good tank in a vacuum. It was not worth it's cost nor weight in steel and was routinely knocked out by tank less than half it's weight due to the fact they could grasp the concept of attacking it from the side or rear where it was impossible to armor the thing adequately. The only tank shells it was stopping from the side were early war anti-tank guns like Allied 57s, 2pdrs with the Little John adapter, and the American 75mm at most. Meanwhile the American 76mm, American 90mm, the British 17pdr, Soviet 85mm, Soviet 122mm, etc would blast straight through the side armor.
It was not a hard tank to outmaneuver and most were encountered broken down or out of fuel in the first place because of the utter impracticality of the vehicle. The thing weighed more than an M1A2 SEPv3 Abrams during a time when the world's infrastructure (bridges, loading cranes, etc) was struggling with tanks half it's weight.
R.P Hunnicutt rated the Tiger 2 as the best tank of WW2 in direct combat only. He also rated it the most impractical tank to actually see service during the war due to all the logistical headaches it caused and the fact that once a tank got at it's side it was helpless. And I do mean helpless, the rate at which the Tiger 2 could turn it's turret was pathetic. Without the automatic turret drive (which was prone to breaking down) it barely managed 6 degrees of traverse per second. With the turret drive it was capable of up to 18 degrees per second however it was prone to inaccuracy and was never used for actually gun laying due to the jerky nature of it's movement and it's unpredictability in stopping prone to under or over rotate to what the gunner actually wanted. This was quite honestly a joke considering the M4s of various types they were facing had a minimum turret traverse of 26 degrees per second with the drive which was accurate and reliable enough for gun laying such that it was doctrine to use it, unlike the Germans who would use their own to get roughly on target then fine aim with hand-cranking
The Tiger 2 was not a good tank. It was a good mobile bunker. It could kill any tank it so much as looked at and most tanks would struggle to penetrate it from the front which caused an immense fear factor but the Tiger 1 and Panther for all their faults were much better vehicles the problems with which are commonly overstated. Germans struggled with the weight and reliability of their tanks but in cases excepting the Tiger 2 those complaints are often blown out of proportion. Take for example the rather common "engine fires" point made about German tanks. Some had this issue throughout the entire war, the Tiger 1 and Panther did not.
@@churchA.I on another note, good taste in pfp though.
@@ThatGuyOrby jeezus, I need a tldr, also thanks
I thought you were going somewhere else with that German Engineers line, and I got worried, but I’m glad I was wrong. I’ve been watching/listening to a fair bit of Lazerpig (He’s a historian on UA-cam, yes really) and he talked a fair bit about the myths about how the Nazi’s were coming up with all sorts of possible space age weapons BS. So I’m glad you didn’t fall into THAT extreme rabbit hole and instead only mentioned the Ratte.
In Russia in Saints Petersburg's Hermitage there is a vase so large and heavy, that they can't remove it from the museum. Not only that, but they also first got the vase inside... And then built the entrance and the rest of the museum around it.
6:12 Hey, shortly after the Ratte was thought up Krupp came up with the idea of putting THAT onto treads to be a self propelled gun...
“The Angry Mustache Model” is the best name I’ve heard for that man.
Me seeing the Ratte: "Hey look a Mammoth Tank!"
Deadly D measuring contest? Did you mean the entirety of Baki universe? 😂😂😂
The Hamburger Helper bit speaks to me on so many levels that it hurts.
5:49 I mean, it may as well be a ship that grew treads given the sheer SIZE of it and its armaments. Calling it a "Land Cruiser" is pretty good a conveying how over the top it is.
I mean the guns they were planning to put on the tank (the 11", aka 28cm, SKC/34s) were quite literally used to arm the Scharnhorst/Gneisenau class Battleships/Battlecruisers (people still can't agree on what class they were because the German word for the ship literally just translates to "armored ship").
That joke he made at the end was him poking fun at what he had to do with his last when he had to reupload it cause he made Wind Diver to hot
That thumbnail is perfection.
Imagine putting the Ratte in World of Tanks 😆
Wouldn't be able to move from spawn on certain maps like Himmelsdorf. Or it would by just crushing the buildings
@@unnecessaryammorack a big target just waiting to be hit mostly by arty
@@christianleocastelo342 yup. They'd have a field day
I’m glad I play my life like Guily Gear where I’m able to combo break by just pressing two buttons at the same time, if the tension in my asss is high enough.
7:15, I like that Badger and I both keep our Glocks on our desk like a Christmas ornament. But I also have a sexy ass revolver to pair with it.
"Jack is back"
5:56 wait is that SPACE ENGINEERS OR FROM THE DEPTHS
Space Engineers and im not gonna lie thats a very nice design
if badger were to do like a web series or a sfm movie or something i feel like he would need to charge people
God, it'd be like Red vs Blue took all the coke in Florida.
And I would pay for it without question.
@@fjnordthedwarf4004 exactly hell throw in some meth and boom we got it. If he does a good web series or indie film he earned that cash.
Who hasn't been hit by a Beach ball in this day and age and its pretty fun to hit someone with it, but when it is bigger then it's better. :D
The Ratte was basically a 40K vehicle, so give it a few more years and will figure it out.
40K? Like Warhammer 40K?
@@nullhazard7569yeah
5:10 Yeah, that about sounds like something you'd hear in a Badger stream
The TOG is pure unadulterated British engineering
I've seen the TOG and it's definitely to scale
Why!? Why is this guy so entertaining to watch!?
Ironically enough the first time I found out that being allergic to water was thing, was all thanks to 1 Million Ways to Die!
The ratte exists.
Planes: 👁👄👁
💣
Pe 8:😈
Contrary to common and misguided believe, Germany don't have a chance in winning WW2, the image of heavily mechanized force is partially false since while they do concentrate equipment for their mechanized force, most of their supply lines relies on horses due to a severe lack of trucks (something that the Allies did not have problem with), their big cats are simultaneously over AND underengineered with how bad their parts are and how awful it is to repair them, especially since half the time they broke down on their own (some Panthers pressed for Kursk literally caught fire while being moved from railcar), and the biggest reason they won the Battle of France is because the sheer incompetence of the allied command, and cowardice on the French High Command
Yeah small rodents during maternity are psychos just waiting to spring. To be fair, according to their point of view, if a predator finds the nest, it's better to "recycle" than just abandoning the poor sods
The hell do you mean by "recycle"?!
1:57 Badger’s videos go from A to B, then from Y to -7.
The ratte was designed coz they want to put a battleship turret into a tank
“You can say whatever you want about the Nazis” Spoken like a true Warhammer fan
Why can't I change quality?
Tired the Costco hotdog solely cause of this video. 9/10, would consume again.
As for height, the main body is around 8 feet high.
bonds gets you free tier X-VIII tanks
It's probably not smart to disclose that you guard nuclear weaponry
Mr Chillzone jack ibn Chillzone. Wonderweapons don't win wars. Wunderfaffe will never win wars. Germany declared war on 3 of the greatest powers of that time; at the same time. Long term strategic planning was never their forte. Say what you will about Operation Barbarrosa but Bagration actually broke the enemies Army.
You do know the TOG II is a british tank, not a German one.
I don't think it is actually water he is allergic to but rather something in the water. He should get a scratch test to find out.
Neat. Neat for you
TOGgers
From here you just say that there is literally a history video that explains the engineering of war 2 the German tanks the German tanks and the they literally explain that today and modern times since Germany has access to worldwide resources they're modern day tanks now are superior to everyone's do everyone's tanks like all over the world there tanks are supreme To everyone else's tanks everybody else's tanks are not on the same footing or equal caliber of those tanks
Noice