I went to a British girl's covent/boarding school in the 1970's and whenever we got rowdy our history teacher would say "Girls, please! This is not the house of commons"!
except when there done with class and humour the way John Bercow (house speaker ''Ordeeeeerrrr'' John Bercow) used to do them he was so classy and funny. Check him ut.
@@richardwani2803 yeah, and if you bring armor or a sword into the house, they will cut off your head.. it still written in the books despite the UK not even having a death penalty anymore
the commons and speaker do not sit when the mace is not present BUT the mace can be removed to under the table when a committee of the whole house is sitting, and they are usually 'chaired' by a deputy speaker who must be address as the chair not 'deputy speaker'
"Liar" is a dangerous word in the Commons because if someone lies there he could be arrested, judged and go in jail ? To lie in the Commons is considered as an offense.
"Economical with the truth" is the phrase my dad uses, he's a city councillor who served in the past and recently took it up again, won a seat in the last local election.
It's against the rules of the House - but not illegal. Every MP has Parliamentary Privilege, the right to say whatever they want in the House and not be questioned by any Court of Law. That's why MPs can choose to make public information that is otherwise classified, if they do wish.
They say "hear hear" because MPs aren't allowed to applaud in the chamber. Nor can you accuse anyone of lying; instead the member can say something like " The right honourable member, may have inadvertently misled the House".
it's the same in American rules: you can't accuse a fellow member of the House or Senate of being a liar. Robert's Rules of Order---which derives from US House of Representatives practices---forbids it as well.
It can get very rowdy at times. Every Wednesday at noon, there is Prime Ministers Questions for half an hour, this is when the House is packed and anyone can ask the PM any question on any subject. There are certain rules that have to be followed as regards language, eg you can't call anyone a liar. Also no one can 'mislead the House' by speaking an untruth, in the case of a PM being found to have done this it could lead to them having to resign. The Speaker of the House trying to keep order, is a sitting MP who has been voted into that postition by agreement of all parties, and has to be inbiased in his dealings.
We don't have free speech in the uk, we have freedom of expression...but still don't understand your comment..are you saying that calling someone a liar when they are not is acceptable? Here that is defamation and illegal.
You can't accuse them of that, because they can't lie in that house! By my understanding if they are caught speaking things that simply are not true, or trying to mislead the house their might even have to resign!
The large "Olympic torch" thing that the MP tried to take off the table and out of the room is the Parliamentary Mace. It has to be present at every sitting of the house of commons for business to be official. Just another one of those old traditions harking back through the centuries.
@@piersellis69 In the US it's the opposite way since it was founded as a republic (and still is): Congress is not delegated any power by our head of state to have its authority to pass laws and maintain oversight. The president does not have that kind of authority or power. Also there is a mace in the House of Reps. and Senate chambers. It's different-looking though, like a Roman fasces with an eagle atop. Interesting factoid: the South Carolina House of Representatives has a mace that looks almost exactly like that in the House of Commons, and I do believe it's been there since the 1700s when it was a "colonial legislature".
My favourite story about the House of Commons is when one opposition member said half the Government were crooks. He was forced to retract his statement and apologise, so he then said 'I meant to say half the Government were NOT crooks"
In the House of Commons, you can only speak if (a) standing and )b) recognized by the Speaker. Hence, 'a sedentary position' (i.e. seated) is out of order. "Alacrity': brisk and cheerful readiness
Anyone wondering who the old guy in the red tie who called out the PM is Dennis Skinner. the guy is a legend and always on the side of the people. He's also known as "The Beast Of Bolsover"
That reminds me a lot of the rowdiness of the New South Wales parliament in Sydney. Similar closely seated house too. The federal Aussie parliament often descends into chaos, “question time” can be quite entertaining/frustrating to watch at times 😆
What I love about the parliamentary system in both the UK and Canada is that leaders can be challenged in real time to explain the latest news, reports etc. Can you imagine Trump having to respond, or actually any of the senators lol
they have it live on the parliamentary site, house of commons its pretty much televised, you can watch past broadcasts and theres committees i think we are one of the few parliaments that televise it, because it affects us all
04:10 He also referred to his opponent by name, which I think is rather frowned upon, though I'm not sure if it's explicitly disallowed. One definitely must not ever speak in the second person (i.e. say the word "you") in Parliament; one addresses the house.
There are surprisingly tight conventions on "parliamentary language" in place. It's not allowed to directly call another member a liar, or to otherwise impugn their character in certain ways. "Dodgy", although totally innocuous in normal language, obviously falls foul of this convention.
Plenty of others have explained the importance of the mace. What doesn't seem to have been mentioned, which may interest some, is that it is one of the crown jewels.
Dodgy means tax evasion, generally. Most Tory politicians have "overseas investments" in a country they "alledge" to despise, for human rights, despots etc.. the personification of falsehood, right there. Not all of 'em, btw. Like in life, nothing is all bad, even the U.S. Just testing your wit, flower !!
During parliamentary debate, members are not allowed to call each other names. Dodgy Dave is name calling. It might not seem like much of an insult, but that doesn't matter. It's still name calling. 😄
Some things that might not be clear - Although Parliament has microphones, they are for TV only. The members on the floor can only hear the other speakers unamplified. Therefore, it is completely impossible to hear a speaker when the crowd is jeering them - and the Speaker has to be loud enough to shout down 300 people to get it back quiet enough to hear the person who is trying to speak. When you address Parliament, you are addressing the Speaker, who is the direct representative of the Monarch in the Parliament and is tasked with reporting the goings on to the Monarch. Of course, no "honourable" or "right honourable" member of the Monarch's Parliament would do something so low as to not tell the truth to the representative of the crown, to make such an accusation is quite severe. And to make some insulting remark about them to the representative of the Monarch would be similarly severe. There are rhetorical tactics for making accusations of lying or of calling another member a name and they are usually insanely passive aggressive. Like if the Prime Minister is accused of having had sex with a pig you can't just call him a "pig fucker" in Parliament, you have to say something like "now I have spent many a wonderful hour on farms in my constituency, perhaps not as many as the right honourable member for Witney, but enough to know one end of a pig from another. Those farmers who are my constituents are concerned about the Prime Miniter's attitude towards the pork industry". And then the PM has to stand up and tell everyone about just how much he loves pork.
Well when everyone is packed in together like that and shouting, you know they're all engaged and not on their phone zoning out behind a desk - which I've seen in lots of parliaments and official chambers!
Although their is a fair amount of leeway in their actual questions they are not allowed to cast aspersions on a members character. Hence the use of the word "honourable" member.
The reason why 'dodgy'was a step too far is because it is a straight out insult implying corruption. And as riotous as they all sound, it's important that order is kept.
Because MPs swear allegiance to the monarch (i.e. to bear true witness) in order to take their seats, they are not allowed to call each other "liars" or indicate that they are deliberately misleading the parliament. Hence they have to choose their words carefully. I think Churchill once did it by accusing another MP of "factual inexactitudes," indicating that the MP was wrong while not accusing that member of deliberate deception. The object removed from the bench was the Mace - the symbol of the monarch's authority - which is in place while all parliamentary business is carried out. If removed, any business is null and void; only the monarch's official representative may carry it. One of the rules in parliament is that only one person may have the floor to speak: i.e. if the Speaker is standing, noone else may until called by the Speaker; when one MP is speaking, nobody else may. The frequent shouts of "Order" are an attempt to stop others from speaking or shouting out while the Speaker is standing to speak.
This was brilliant. :) Probably my favourite of your videos so far. Please do more. I love that you compared it to an American frat boy house and a rap-battle. I've never thought of it that way, but they're both very fair comparisons. Made me laugh too. :) Although as funny as these clowns are, their childish behaviour is is a bit concerning really. But that's what happens when a sizable portion of them are most likely drunk and/or high on cocaine.
The man who called David Cameron "dodgy" is Denis Skinner, one of the best MPs for the witty one-liner. Once when a new royal baby was born, most MPs were gushing in congratulatory sentiments. Skinner said, "another mouth for the tax-payer to feed". He is a legend.
Most of these chaps went to the same school and university and know each other very well. They still behave like big school boys. B Johnson ran the government like it was a game or prank he was pulling at school. (Eton again). You can tell the non privately educated (public schools in the UK) as they tend to have regional accents instead of RP.
That staff is known as the Mace, it represents the monarchs authority over parliament and if it gets removed from the house, no parliamentary business can proceed which is why he was trying to take it
Parliamentary law says that you can not insult another MP, because it will lead to a fight. The aisle between the the two opposing sides of the House of Commons is two sword lengths wide to stop sword fights breaking out between two MPs insulting each other & that is why there are very strict rules about what words can, or can not be used. The MPs of The Scotish National Party (SNP) are a rowdy lot to start with and have no respect for the Sasanach parliament, or it's traditions.
Check out the Australian Parliament for their discussion and behaviour. My favourite speech, which has gone crazy world-wide, is by our former Prime Minister, Julia Gillard to Opposition Leader, Tony Abbott. She decimates him!
Can't call someone a liar in HofC. HofC is basically following parliamentary rules from 100s years ago. Calling someone a liar would be afront to his reputation & would probably end up in a duel, so the 'L' word itself is not allowed. Despite everyone using various alternative words for the same thing.
Meryl Streep said about the house of commons when she was studying to play Margret Thatcher that "it's a Bear pit". I agree, no prisoners taken in there
One of the most accurate depictions I've seen of the Commons in Westminster was in the movie "The Minions". Minion Bob is sitting in the Speaker's chair wearing a wig and banging the gavel. The director/whoever really nailed it: it looks correct in every way, as far as I can tell.
It might look 'fun' and in small doses it it is but ultimately it's a massive distraction. Political parties are too often seen as 'winning' at Prime Minister's Questions and that winning is based on who gets the best jokes in. The reality is Prime Minister's Questions are one of the few times the sitting government are held to account and that accountability is more or less batted away just by being able to make some shit joke.
I would say, what you don't get watching the broadcast is how loud the chamber is for those inside and speaking. Sometimes we can hear them clearly, because their are mics, but the person speaking may not be able to even hear themselves.
And lost the Labour Party many elections because of his left wing views totally out of touch with the the majority of most voters including Labour ones. has someone❤ who spent hours has a Labour Volunteer this man cost millions of votes amongst moderate voters especially in more well of areas.
🌹You have to love it when an American tries to tell a British person how to use the English language. Such misplaced arrogance is a treat to experience and could only be proffered by an American.
@@johnpocock5073 🌹 Please try to focus. Your assertion is a logical fallacy and does not address my point. Regardless, it is unsubstantiated and in no way invalidates my comment. The bastardization of a dialect is not something one should take pride in. The evolution of a language is one thing, but the butchering of it is another.
The Scottish guy hugely disrespecting the male Speaker was Alex Salmond, I'm all for Scottish Independence, but he was a total prick. I think he's got sexual harassment cases against him now.
The Mace of the House represents Royal Authority (as the King is responsible for calling and closing Parliament every year). If the Mace is not in its proper place on the Table, the House is not officially in Session. There is a separate area under the table where it is placed when the House is in Committee. There is a similarly styled Mace in the US House of Representatives, though obviously without the Royal link.
By the way: what's with the wooden....thingies (I do not know what to call them).....on either side of the Speaker's chair, where his head would be when he's sitting down? Is that to make sure the Speaker doesn't nod off?
Mase (Staff) it's the king/Queen authority and they have to suspend house procedure until it's back in place. There are words you can't say in the House of Commons --- when the speaker said withdrawal ... the MP withdrawals it and off the record. You can't reflect on the speaker or MP's.
Your reaction matches my reaction when I was 1st watching to the House of Common Speaker trying to make order.. I didn't know if I'm watching a live broadcasting from the British Parliament or a sequence from Tom Sawyer old movie film. Hahahaha... It's so hard to actually follow what they are saying as they're just screaming most of the time.. This is unique in Europe. :)
Mr salmond the Scottish dude who stood up to ask the chair to allow the lady to speak more. Was the leader of the Scottish national party the party that trying to have Scotland leaving the uk dividing the country. I reckon he was Russian agent. He Is now a presenter on Russia today news channel.
Most of these clips are PMQs, Prime Minister Questions. Happens every Wednesday at noon and the Speaker decides who gets the question the PM. But the leader of the opposition party always questions the PM first.
Remove the EU Flag, no disrespect to the EU or it’s Flag but that would be like placing any other nations or organisation over any US political proceedings, it would make no sense because it would have no relevance, incase you didn’t know 🇬🇧 is the UK’s Flag lol
Imagine being still triggered by the EU - didn't you "win" highest inflation simce the 80s, record illegal immigration and sky high fuel bills...?? 🤣🤣 Just because you voted for the destruction of the UK - there's no need to get Nancy about it now... 🤣
7.38 in british parliment you are not allowed to accuse anyone of dishonesty, so she can only imply it. This is why the previous man was told to withdraw the word "Dodgy" as it is being used to call them dishonest. One could say something like "The figures you have stated do not match the ones I have" to set facts straight without accusing somebody of lying, you can say that they are mistaken or incorrect, but you can't say "That's a lie." It's also worth noting that while accusing somebody of lying gets punished, being the person that actually lied is punished much more severely
My favourite house of commons moment was when the then PM, Liz Truss (whose position was in crisis) skipped a session at the house of commons, and her deputy Penny Mordaunt had to explain to everyone in the house that the PM was absent, due to be being "detained on urgent business." Cue the whole house bursting into laughter 😂
At 6 minutes, that is the Mace that was being waved around, actually represents the Monarch's presence in the House. In effect, the MP was manhandling the monarch. When the Speaker orders a 'withdrawal', it means that it will not be used in Hansard, the written record of Parliamentary proceedings. Just to say that these are picked moments - it's not always like this!
5:55 that staff is the symbol of royal authority that enables the house to sit and diacuss things freely - legally it should only be taken off the stand by the officially appointed individuals at the end of the day's proceedings. To take it off the stand outside of this context is to accuse the house of treason. Hence the reaction.
You can call someone a liar, just not use that word. It calls into question the honour of Honourable members. Theresa May referred to a member as ‘inadvertently misleading the House’. You translated it correctly as ‘you’re a lying b.’
This type of behaviour only happens once a week on Wednesdays for 1/2 an hour between 12.00 noon and 12.30 during Prime Minister’s questions. What the speaker is shouting is ORDER. Part of the speaker’s job is to keep the whole House of Parliament in some sort of order.
From a 1980s British political sitcom, "Yes Minister": [Activist]: Men are animals too you know! [Minister]: I know that, I've just come from the House of Commons.
When I lived in UK, I used to watch House of Commons. Which I never thought I will do. I am not into politics, but that this is hilarious sometimes. Better then reality show. It's funny how one speaks, and others just Cheers or Boo for whatever reason.
This is a collection of some the particularly 'lively' episodes in the House of Commons. Admittedly the debate is often vigorous and heated, but these are some of the more extreme examples! John Bercow (The Speaker of thee House), the guy with the jazzy ties was well known for his characteristic way of bellowing of 'Order, Order, Order...'
MPs do not refer to each other as “Mister Smith” but as “The Honourable Member for Bloggstown” (the name of their constituency). MPs are assumed to be “honourable” so it’s against the rules for them to accuse each other of lying. Even if they are lying.
There a rules about how business is conducted, they go back centuries, they were written down for ease by the then Clark, Erskine May, during Victorian era. (Standing Orders) They should not clap or use certain words. Due to the layout of the House of Commons it tends to be conflict in nature. If you want to see your Senate being ripped apart, British style, watch George Galloway answer questions to them. He was brilliant and they didn't know what hit them. George Galloway was a Member of Parliament.
Dennis Skinner doesn't give a crap. And that big thing on the table is a mace. Alacrity means quickly. And standing rules in the Commons are almost as important as the debates themselves. It's not always this nuts. Watch some more "PMQ's".
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I went to a British girl's covent/boarding school in the 1970's and whenever we got rowdy our history teacher would say "Girls, please! This is not the house of commons"!
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😂😂😂Brilliant 🇬🇧
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Direct insults aren't allowed, even something as banal as dodgy. The rule is there to prevent the chamber just descending into petty insults.
Doesn't really work though 😆
@@KissMyFatAxe It works, you are removed!
@@mlambrechts1 they get kicked out sure, but that doesn't stop them having a verbal pop at each other in the first place 😆
Using the term dodgy implies something may not be legally. So not really banal. If it was banal he wouldn't have used it.
except when there done with class and humour the way John Bercow (house speaker ''Ordeeeeerrrr'' John Bercow) used to do them he was so classy and funny. Check him ut.
The English parliamentary system began in 1265. It hasn’t changed much.
Except its not an English Parliament.
It a changed there's no swords in there
The same people are still there too - Especially the Tories... 🤣
@@richardwani2803 yeah, and if you bring armor or a sword into the house, they will cut off your head.. it still written in the books despite the UK not even having a death penalty anymore
@@richardwani2803 I think Black Rod still has a sword? Also there's a big ol' mace (i.e. a medieval head-bashing stick) right there in the middle.
The word "dodgy" doesn't mean dodging questions, it means "corrupt".
The man shouting "Order" is called "Speaker of the House".
I miss Bercow
@@paigempricehe had a great command of the English language, always made me smile
@@paigemprice He was certainly my favourite character lol
@@Glyn-gq8tshe was a sexist and bullied his staff
@@santividal9387 I preferred Betty Boothroyd!
That staff is the royal Mace, it’s the symbol of the Monarch in Parliament. The chamber cannot legally meet unless the mace is present on the table.
the commons and speaker do not sit when the mace is not present BUT the mace can be removed to under the table when a committee of the whole house is sitting, and they are usually 'chaired' by a deputy speaker who must be address as the chair not 'deputy speaker'
"Liar" is a dangerous word in the Commons because if someone lies there he could be arrested, judged and go in jail ? To lie in the Commons is considered as an offense.
Yeah, they just have to deflect and move rhetorical goal posts instead, lol.
"Economical with the truth" is the phrase my dad uses, he's a city councillor who served in the past and recently took it up again, won a seat in the last local election.
I thought that MPs are privileged from arrest as are our members of both houses of Congress.
It's against the rules of the House - but not illegal. Every MP has Parliamentary Privilege, the right to say whatever they want in the House and not be questioned by any Court of Law. That's why MPs can choose to make public information that is otherwise classified, if they do wish.
@@DylanSargesson not sure if I understand you about classified information. I never had thought of that.
They say "hear hear" because MPs aren't allowed to applaud in the chamber. Nor can you accuse anyone of lying; instead the member can say something like " The right honourable member, may have inadvertently misled the House".
it's the same in American rules: you can't accuse a fellow member of the House or Senate of being a liar. Robert's Rules of Order---which derives from US House of Representatives practices---forbids it as well.
Canada House of Commons we can... then the speaker stands up to make people sit down goes order order lol
It can get very rowdy at times. Every Wednesday at noon, there is Prime Ministers Questions for half an hour, this is when the House is packed and anyone can ask the PM any question on any subject. There are certain rules that have to be followed as regards language, eg you can't call anyone a liar. Also no one can 'mislead the House' by speaking an untruth, in the case of a PM being found to have done this it could lead to them having to resign. The Speaker of the House trying to keep order, is a sitting MP who has been voted into that postition by agreement of all parties, and has to be inbiased in his dealings.
thats why there is a rule that no one is to bring a sword into the house
@@Greenwood4727 as long as they don’t cross the (red) line there’s no chance of two swords meeting; the House was designed that way
We don't have free speech in the uk, we have freedom of expression...but still don't understand your comment..are you saying that calling someone a liar when they are not is acceptable? Here that is defamation and illegal.
Best time to watch is PMs Question time. It’s soo funny at times 😂
@F. A. Funny how its always Americans who talk about free speech yet they cancel people for literally even things they never said or did xD
We know politicians lie but you definitely can't accuse them of it. Bad form.
to dodge a question is not the same as lying.
You can't accuse them of that, because they can't lie in that house! By my understanding if they are caught speaking things that simply are not true, or trying to mislead the house their might even have to resign!
U can’t accuse them of lying unless you have evidence and even then u aren’t supposed to just yell and call someone a liar
The large "Olympic torch" thing that the MP tried to take off the table and out of the room is the Parliamentary Mace. It has to be present at every sitting of the house of commons for business to be official. Just another one of those old traditions harking back through the centuries.
It's a symbolic representation of the crown, and the crown delegating power to govern to the house of commons
@@piersellis69 In the US it's the opposite way since it was founded as a republic (and still is): Congress is not delegated any power by our head of state to have its authority to pass laws and maintain oversight. The president does not have that kind of authority or power.
Also there is a mace in the House of Reps. and Senate chambers. It's different-looking though, like a Roman fasces with an eagle atop. Interesting factoid: the South Carolina House of Representatives has a mace that looks almost exactly like that in the House of Commons, and I do believe it's been there since the 1700s when it was a "colonial legislature".
The 2 red lines on the floor are 2 sword lengths apart, so that MP`s cant fight each other back in the day.
My favourite story about the House of Commons is when one opposition member said half the Government were crooks. He was forced to retract his statement and apologise, so he then said 'I meant to say half the Government were NOT crooks"
They aren’t allowed to call each other liars, hence the “inadvertently misled the House”
In the House of Commons, you can only speak if (a) standing and )b) recognized by the Speaker. Hence, 'a sedentary position' (i.e. seated) is out of order. "Alacrity': brisk and cheerful readiness
Without the staff (which represents the King's presence), the house is not in session.
Anyone wondering who the old guy in the red tie who called out the PM is Dennis Skinner. the guy is a legend and always on the side of the people. He's also known as "The Beast Of Bolsover"
Absolute hero of parliament
It looks like you found our version of the muppet show 🤣 from a Brit keep up the good work 👍
it is unfortunate that there isn't a version of this that isn't tainted with the stain of the S*n
That reminds me a lot of the rowdiness of the New South Wales parliament in Sydney. Similar closely seated house too. The federal Aussie parliament often descends into chaos, “question time” can be quite entertaining/frustrating to watch at times 😆
What I love about the parliamentary system in both the UK and Canada is that leaders can be challenged in real time to explain the latest news, reports etc.
Can you imagine Trump having to respond, or actually any of the senators lol
He'd do about as well as Biden
I can't tell the difference between you and Tyler Rumple.
Yes, I know what you mean.... 🙂
I thought that as well. Clones.
Twins?
The Mace (not staff) is the symbol of the Crown's authority to allow Parliament to sit and debate
they have it live on the parliamentary site, house of commons its pretty much televised, you can watch past broadcasts and theres committees i think we are one of the few parliaments that televise it, because it affects us all
04:10 He also referred to his opponent by name, which I think is rather frowned upon, though I'm not sure if it's explicitly disallowed. One definitely must not ever speak in the second person (i.e. say the word "you") in Parliament; one addresses the house.
One of my favourite things on tv is Prime Ministers Question time!! It brilliant!!!
why on earth is there an eu flag on the thumbnail? lol. makes about as much sense as putting the japanese flag on a trump rally
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The EU Parliament is as boring as the US Congress for sure.
The one thing that the politicians are not allowed to say is "liar"
Oh my word. I didn't realize how much I missed John Bercow and his neckties. What a delight to see him again!
Some of the rules are hundreds of years old so they sometimes feel a bit antiquated
There are surprisingly tight conventions on "parliamentary language" in place. It's not allowed to directly call another member a liar, or to otherwise impugn their character in certain ways.
"Dodgy", although totally innocuous in normal language, obviously falls foul of this convention.
Plenty of others have explained the importance of the mace. What doesn't seem to have been mentioned, which may interest some, is that it is one of the crown jewels.
Parliament is performance art. Layers of meaning in a story that has run for centuries.
Dodgy means tax evasion, generally. Most Tory politicians have "overseas investments" in a country they "alledge" to despise, for human rights, despots etc.. the personification of falsehood, right there. Not all of 'em, btw. Like in life, nothing is all bad, even the U.S. Just testing your wit, flower !!
During parliamentary debate, members are not allowed to call each other names. Dodgy Dave is name calling. It might not seem like much of an insult, but that doesn't matter. It's still name calling. 😄
Some things that might not be clear -
Although Parliament has microphones, they are for TV only. The members on the floor can only hear the other speakers unamplified. Therefore, it is completely impossible to hear a speaker when the crowd is jeering them - and the Speaker has to be loud enough to shout down 300 people to get it back quiet enough to hear the person who is trying to speak.
When you address Parliament, you are addressing the Speaker, who is the direct representative of the Monarch in the Parliament and is tasked with reporting the goings on to the Monarch. Of course, no "honourable" or "right honourable" member of the Monarch's Parliament would do something so low as to not tell the truth to the representative of the crown, to make such an accusation is quite severe. And to make some insulting remark about them to the representative of the Monarch would be similarly severe. There are rhetorical tactics for making accusations of lying or of calling another member a name and they are usually insanely passive aggressive.
Like if the Prime Minister is accused of having had sex with a pig you can't just call him a "pig fucker" in Parliament, you have to say something like "now I have spent many a wonderful hour on farms in my constituency, perhaps not as many as the right honourable member for Witney, but enough to know one end of a pig from another. Those farmers who are my constituents are concerned about the Prime Miniter's attitude towards the pork industry". And then the PM has to stand up and tell everyone about just how much he loves pork.
Now you know that our MP's act like a load of school kids. In on other words a load of pratts.
Well when everyone is packed in together like that and shouting, you know they're all engaged and not on their phone zoning out behind a desk - which I've seen in lots of parliaments and official chambers!
I love how the parliamentarians use the English language.
What else would they be speaking?
@@wesvd1978 The Welsh Grand Committee consisting of 40 MPs from Wales/Cymru 🏴 in all parties conducts debates in Welsh/Cymraeg.
Although their is a fair amount of leeway in their actual questions they are not allowed to cast aspersions on a members character. Hence the use of the word "honourable" member.
The reason why 'dodgy'was a step too far is because it is a straight out insult implying corruption. And as riotous as they all sound, it's important that order is kept.
Because MPs swear allegiance to the monarch (i.e. to bear true witness) in order to take their seats, they are not allowed to call each other "liars" or indicate that they are deliberately misleading the parliament. Hence they have to choose their words carefully. I think Churchill once did it by accusing another MP of "factual inexactitudes," indicating that the MP was wrong while not accusing that member of deliberate deception.
The object removed from the bench was the Mace - the symbol of the monarch's authority - which is in place while all parliamentary business is carried out. If removed, any business is null and void; only the monarch's official representative may carry it.
One of the rules in parliament is that only one person may have the floor to speak: i.e. if the Speaker is standing, noone else may until called by the Speaker; when one MP is speaking, nobody else may. The frequent shouts of "Order" are an attempt to stop others from speaking or shouting out while the Speaker is standing to speak.
This was brilliant. :) Probably my favourite of your videos so far. Please do more. I love that you compared it to an American frat boy house and a rap-battle. I've never thought of it that way, but they're both very fair comparisons. Made me laugh too. :)
Although as funny as these clowns are, their childish behaviour is is a bit concerning really. But that's what happens when a sizable portion of them are most likely drunk and/or high on cocaine.
The man who called David Cameron "dodgy" is Denis Skinner, one of the best MPs for the witty one-liner. Once when a new royal baby was born, most MPs were gushing in congratulatory sentiments. Skinner said, "another mouth for the tax-payer to feed". He is a legend.
Most of these chaps went to the same school and university and know each other very well. They still behave like big school boys. B Johnson ran the government like it was a game or prank he was pulling at school. (Eton again).
You can tell the non privately educated (public schools in the UK) as they tend to have regional accents instead of RP.
Dodgy implies dishonest.
Now that´s what I call a lively debate! But be assured, when the show is opver, they all go for a pint together!
That staff is known as the Mace, it represents the monarchs authority over parliament and if it gets removed from the house, no parliamentary business can proceed which is why he was trying to take it
It's half a mad hour every week. Don't read much mre into it, but there is a lot more to unpack there given time.
Parliamentary law says that you can not insult another MP, because it will lead to a fight. The aisle between the the two opposing sides of the House of Commons is two sword lengths wide to stop sword fights breaking out between two MPs insulting each other & that is why there are very strict rules about what words can, or can not be used.
The MPs of The Scotish National Party (SNP) are a rowdy lot to start with and have no respect for the Sasanach parliament, or it's traditions.
Check out the Australian Parliament for their discussion and behaviour. My favourite speech, which has gone crazy world-wide, is by our former Prime Minister, Julia Gillard to Opposition Leader, Tony Abbott. She decimates him!
Dodgy implies lying .. accusing someone of lying in the house of commons is a definate no no
Omg Dodgy Dave! Couldn’t stand him!
Can't call someone a liar in HofC. HofC is basically following parliamentary rules from 100s years ago. Calling someone a liar would be afront to his reputation & would probably end up in a duel, so the 'L' word itself is not allowed. Despite everyone using various alternative words for the same thing.
Aye it's crazy,it's time for a cup o tea and shortie biscuit,round 3 .
🤣 it's always so embarrassing, they're like children!
Meryl Streep said about the house of commons when she was studying to play Margret Thatcher that "it's a Bear pit". I agree, no prisoners taken in there
One of this days the Speaker must start with a "LET'S GET READY TO RUMBLEEEEE" and then just let it all go wild
One of the most accurate depictions I've seen of the Commons in Westminster was in the movie "The Minions". Minion Bob is sitting in the Speaker's chair wearing a wig and banging the gavel. The director/whoever really nailed it: it looks correct in every way, as far as I can tell.
There are various montages of John Bercow (the Speaker), although they're mostly pretty short.
It might look 'fun' and in small doses it it is but ultimately it's a massive distraction. Political parties are too often seen as 'winning' at Prime Minister's Questions and that winning is based on who gets the best jokes in. The reality is Prime Minister's Questions are one of the few times the sitting government are held to account and that accountability is more or less batted away just by being able to make some shit joke.
I would say, what you don't get watching the broadcast is how loud the chamber is for those inside and speaking. Sometimes we can hear them clearly, because their are mics, but the person speaking may not be able to even hear themselves.
Dennis Skinner!🥰 Brilliant 😂 Good Northern bloke tells it like it is!!! I want him as PM,Tory rich boys have no clue on real life! lol
There should be an entire video devoted to Dennis Skinner
And lost the Labour Party many elections because of his left wing views totally out of touch with the the majority of most voters including Labour ones. has someone❤ who spent hours has a Labour Volunteer this man cost millions of votes amongst moderate voters especially in more well of areas.
🌹You have to love it when an American tries to tell a British person how to use the English language. Such misplaced arrogance is a treat to experience and could only be proffered by an American.
A “threat to experience”? What are you on about? Pretentious plonker.
Since the late 20th century, American English has become the most influential form of English worldwide
@@johnpocock5073 🌹 Please try to focus. Your assertion is a logical fallacy and does not address my point. Regardless, it is unsubstantiated and in no way invalidates my comment. The bastardization of a dialect is not something one should take pride in. The evolution of a language is one thing, but the butchering of it is another.
That is the mace. You can not use liar in the House of Commons.
"It's like Harry Potter"
BECAUSE ITS BRITISH
The Scottish guy hugely disrespecting the male Speaker was Alex Salmond, I'm all for Scottish Independence, but he was a total prick. I think he's got sexual harassment cases against him now.
This is so funny, how they ever get any work done !
You should see question time in either the house of representatives or the senate in Australia, it can get quite nasty and personal.
More reactions to the House of Commons please! Specially to the GOAT Speaker John Bercow!
Dodgy means not being honest. Strict rules apply to language in the house.
The Mace of the House represents Royal Authority (as the King is responsible for calling and closing Parliament every year). If the Mace is not in its proper place on the Table, the House is not officially in Session. There is a separate area under the table where it is placed when the House is in Committee.
There is a similarly styled Mace in the US House of Representatives, though obviously without the Royal link.
By the way: what's with the wooden....thingies (I do not know what to call them).....on either side of the Speaker's chair, where his head would be when he's sitting down? Is that to make sure the Speaker doesn't nod off?
Mase (Staff) it's the king/Queen authority and they have to suspend house procedure until it's back in place. There are words you can't say in the House of Commons --- when the speaker said withdrawal ... the MP withdrawals it and off the record. You can't reflect on the speaker or MP's.
Don't you love it! I have admired the British Parliament for years. I wish our government functioned like theirs. It is more alive and real.
Your reaction matches my reaction when I was 1st watching to the House of Common Speaker trying to make order.. I didn't know if I'm watching a live broadcasting from the British Parliament or a sequence from Tom Sawyer old movie film. Hahahaha... It's so hard to actually follow what they are saying as they're just screaming most of the time.. This is unique in Europe. :)
Winston Churchill never called a Fellow MP a liar but used the term Terminology inexactitude which means exactly that !
Mr salmond the Scottish dude who stood up to ask the chair to allow the lady to speak more. Was the leader of the Scottish national party the party that trying to have Scotland leaving the uk dividing the country. I reckon he was Russian agent. He Is now a presenter on Russia today news channel.
Yes and he gave Trump permission to build his golf course
6:20 it's the mace, it is a symbol of the House's power, without it the House can't really assemble.
Ryan they are possibly our biggest embarrassment.
4:25 "Dodgy" implies dishonesty which, by convention is not permitted.
If you think that's bad you should watch Greek & Italian politicians as they sometimes end in punch ups.
The African parliaments end up the same way 😂😂 punches ,throwing chairs
Most of these clips are PMQs, Prime Minister Questions. Happens every Wednesday at noon and the Speaker decides who gets the question the PM. But the leader of the opposition party always questions the PM first.
Our MPs behave like kids in the chambers! It’s funny to watch 🤣
You should listen to a compilation of The Speaker in the House of Commons John Bercow!
He was one hell of a force in that chamber!
Remove the EU Flag, no disrespect to the EU or it’s Flag but that would be like placing any other nations or organisation over any US political proceedings, it would make no sense because it would have no relevance, incase you didn’t know 🇬🇧 is the UK’s Flag lol
Or like using the US`s flag as a flag for north america and displaying it when talking about Canada
Personally I couldn't care less. We were EU members not that long ago.
Imagine being still triggered by the EU - didn't you "win" highest inflation simce the 80s, record illegal immigration and sky high fuel bills...?? 🤣🤣
Just because you voted for the destruction of the UK - there's no need to get Nancy about it now... 🤣
@@lphaetaamma291 More like using the Pan-American flag
Just wrote a comment, and deleted it because i completly misunderstood your comment! But, even if you haven't read it, i'm sorry!
7.38 in british parliment you are not allowed to accuse anyone of dishonesty, so she can only imply it. This is why the previous man was told to withdraw the word "Dodgy" as it is being used to call them dishonest. One could say something like "The figures you have stated do not match the ones I have" to set facts straight without accusing somebody of lying, you can say that they are mistaken or incorrect, but you can't say "That's a lie."
It's also worth noting that while accusing somebody of lying gets punished, being the person that actually lied is punished much more severely
Welcome to British reserve ;-)
My favourite house of commons moment was when the then PM, Liz Truss (whose position was in crisis) skipped a session at the house of commons, and her deputy Penny Mordaunt had to explain to everyone in the house that the PM was absent, due to be being "detained on urgent business." Cue the whole house bursting into laughter 😂
At 6 minutes, that is the Mace that was being waved around, actually represents the Monarch's presence in the House. In effect, the MP was manhandling the monarch. When the Speaker orders a 'withdrawal', it means that it will not be used in Hansard, the written record of Parliamentary proceedings. Just to say that these are picked moments - it's not always like this!
5:55 that staff is the symbol of royal authority that enables the house to sit and diacuss things freely - legally it should only be taken off the stand by the officially appointed individuals at the end of the day's proceedings.
To take it off the stand outside of this context is to accuse the house of treason. Hence the reaction.
You can call someone a liar, just not use that word. It calls into question the honour of Honourable members. Theresa May referred to a member as ‘inadvertently misleading the House’. You translated it correctly as ‘you’re a lying b.’
This type of behaviour only happens once a week on Wednesdays for 1/2 an hour between 12.00 noon and 12.30 during Prime Minister’s questions. What the speaker is shouting is ORDER. Part of the speaker’s job is to keep the whole House of Parliament in some sort of order.
From a 1980s British political sitcom, "Yes Minister":
[Activist]: Men are animals too you know!
[Minister]: I know that, I've just come from the House of Commons.
When I lived in UK, I used to watch House of Commons. Which I never thought I will do. I am not into politics, but that this is hilarious sometimes. Better then reality show. It's funny how one speaks, and others just Cheers or Boo for whatever reason.
This is a collection of some the particularly 'lively' episodes in the House of Commons. Admittedly the debate is often vigorous and heated, but these are some of the more extreme examples! John Bercow (The Speaker of thee House), the guy with the jazzy ties was well known for his characteristic way of bellowing of 'Order, Order, Order...'
MPs do not refer to each other as “Mister Smith” but as “The Honourable Member for Bloggstown” (the name of their constituency). MPs are assumed to be “honourable” so it’s against the rules for them to accuse each other of lying. Even if they are lying.
There a rules about how business is conducted, they go back centuries, they were written down for ease by the then Clark, Erskine May, during Victorian era. (Standing Orders) They should not clap or use certain words. Due to the layout of the House of Commons it tends to be conflict in nature. If you want to see your Senate being ripped apart, British style, watch George Galloway answer questions to them. He was brilliant and they didn't know what hit them. George Galloway was a Member of Parliament.
Dennis Skinner doesn't give a crap. And that big thing on the table is a mace. Alacrity means quickly. And standing rules in the Commons are almost as important as the debates themselves. It's not always this nuts. Watch some more "PMQ's".
Wednesday is Prime minister question time and is always a show. The rest of the week their are SUPPOSED to behave