This Is What Being A Good Defender Looks Like | Pokemon Unite

Поділитися
Вставка
  • Опубліковано 2 чер 2024
  • Goodra with the best Goodra build Muddy Water! Yeehaw Become a channel member today!:
    / @spragels
    Support the channel and get 20% off your G FUEL order by using my link - affiliateshop.gfuel.com/4ff and promo code: SPRAGELS
    Join the discord! - / discord
    Pokemon Unite playlist! - • Pokémon Unite
    Beginner tips and tricks, Beginner guide, Advanced guide,
    Watch me play games on twitch @ twitch.tv/spragels & Tik Tok / jakeissupercool
    Follow me on twitter @spragels
    IG @jakeissupercool
    #PokemonUnite #spragels #goodra
  • Ігри

КОМЕНТАРІ • 135

  • @Sui_kun3
    @Sui_kun3 4 місяці тому +33

    I love that the item build works well with both builds so you can pivot based on your team comp. No healer? Dragon Pulse time. Blissey/Comfey/Clef? Time to drown the field in muddy waters

    • @spragels
      @spragels  4 місяці тому +9

      Yeah that’s how I pick usually

  • @iwishiunderstood159
    @iwishiunderstood159 4 місяці тому +24

    Spragels: makes a video called the Goodra effect.
    Also Spragels:

  • @andrewgood7586
    @andrewgood7586 4 місяці тому +101

    Im a defender/all rounder main. I love playing muddy water Goodra, but “the Goodra effect” is real. Its just not good unfortunately. It can do some work, but it cant carry like something like Lapras or Blastoise can. Relies heavily on your team skill level, more-so than other defenders even.

    • @Frostfire26
      @Frostfire26 4 місяці тому +5

      I’d say it’s solid with a good healer, but usually it’s mid

    • @andrewgood7586
      @andrewgood7586 4 місяці тому +7

      @@Frostfire26 Id agree. If you have a solid healer and a solid carry, Goodra is great. Your team has to play tight though. If theyre all scattered, you feel useless as Goodra.

    • @gp8383
      @gp8383 4 місяці тому +3

      Muddy water is so strong with acid spray I play it on my alt account, I'm gonna need to get goo for main account now 🎉

    • @sunlizard9593
      @sunlizard9593 4 місяці тому +3

      Not only that but it gets shut down hard by certain comps. Which wouldn’t be a problem if these comps weren’t as common as they are

    • @TheKingBLOOZ
      @TheKingBLOOZ 4 місяці тому +3

      Goodra can win a 1v4 by itself but can't win a whole match by itself.

  • @CASantos
    @CASantos 4 місяці тому +7

    I carry my team as umbreon, blastoise and goodra occasionally. Blocking objectives, providing vision, initiating team fights especially Ray and knowing when to back off, etc. In return, when I play attackers I get defenders who backcap, solo farm, don't run xp share, hide BEHIND ME (a squishy gardevoir/dragapult), and somehow have like 4 assists at the end of the match (never visiting team fights might be why!)
    People always clown the "meme bad" players (cinderace, greninja) but not enough talk about how bad a huge chunk of solo defenders are.

  • @kevinkarthik3329
    @kevinkarthik3329 4 місяці тому +24

    god it feels so good when you have a good defender on your team covering you well. Plays like these can help you win so much more

    • @player-ty2sy
      @player-ty2sy 4 місяці тому +1

      As a defender main... Please learn to play a defender if you an ADC main, sometimes it's not all about you
      Just pick up a slowbro

    • @kevinkarthik3329
      @kevinkarthik3329 4 місяці тому

      @@player-ty2sy agreed

  • @OrangeFaygo958
    @OrangeFaygo958 3 місяці тому +3

    As I am climbing through master 1400+ (not crazy high but still decent player pool) with a 60+% winrate, i think why people underestimate goodra's toolkit is because there are certain aspects of the mon that people just arent taking full advantage of. Goodra's movement speed debuff on her boosted auto is deadly in the right hands, and is built for hard chasing. Paired with the extra slow on the whip, that also changes the position of mons on the map at will, and X speed to close distance, it feels like its actually built to counter kite mons.
    So her playstyle isnt made for hard CC on the whole team like other Defenders, she's built for chasing and locking down the other teams jungler, so your team can fight 4v4 with out the enemy team's main secure. It works for me at least 😅

  • @Arctorias
    @Arctorias 4 місяці тому +8

    Goodra crumbling like the World Trade Center after 1 guy on the enemy team has cursed item:

    • @CM_684
      @CM_684 4 місяці тому +4

      I'm honestly surprised that barely anyone runs curse items, every mon has some sort of healing. Those items can be so clutch

    • @paichni3474
      @paichni3474 3 місяці тому +2

      Or by someone who has mastered the foul art of… walking to the side!

  • @ElecManEXE
    @ElecManEXE 4 місяці тому +5

    Man, that was a good Pika you had on your team there. Nice when your attackers actually take advantage of your tanking and go on the offense. I feel like I often get the attackers who go "ok, tank is here to block for me, I'll just leave."

    • @CM_684
      @CM_684 4 місяці тому

      True, I've had so many times where carries just leave at full health when I arrive as a defender/supporter. Like why am I here in the first place?
      On the other hand, I've also suffered defenders hiding behind me when I'm the carry, this is just wild.

  • @YosiahW
    @YosiahW 4 місяці тому +14

    Considering that acid spray and muddy water is the highest winrate build - as of the time this comment was posted - could you try a video with that Goodra build too pls?

    • @darkSide262
      @darkSide262 4 місяці тому +4

      With all the kiting glaceons and espeons around i much prefer acid spray. They think they can pop in and out and suddenly they are slowed and everyone catches up

  • @smokeybandit3787
    @smokeybandit3787 4 місяці тому +29

    If you made someone who didn't know what roles pokemon in this game were, everyone would confuse defenders for attackers based on how people play 'defenders'
    DEFENDERS, PLEASE DEFEND YOUR ATTACKER ALLIES

    • @marioacg
      @marioacg 4 місяці тому +3

      I was waiting until an explanation of how to use a defender showed on the video but then the video ended 😂
      Also a lot of times that Goodra died like on minute 9 fighting for nothing vs 2 or 3 enemies or tried to fight in enemy base without any sense. Fortunately for the video the enemy Absol was super bad and almost AFK and didn't punished the bad Goodra decisions.
      Fun video, just not educational for any match against a decent level enemy team.

    • @Belesprit656
      @Belesprit656 4 місяці тому +2

      I would be more worried with having defender allies than worrying about how they play but good point.

    • @idunnowhatimdoin
      @idunnowhatimdoin 4 місяці тому +3

      @@marioacg there's value in zoning out enemies or baiting/distracting them; it's not only about shielding allies and fighting for objectives, although that is a very important part that many players do neglect.

    • @marioacg
      @marioacg 4 місяці тому +1

      @@idunnowhatimdoin for objectives I completely agree, on minute 9 therw wasn't farm or anything else and he was just fighting for whatever reason risking the 8:50 farm

    • @CASantos
      @CASantos 4 місяці тому

      ​@@Belesprit656 bad defenders are basically worth nothing anyway though.

  • @Frostfire26
    @Frostfire26 4 місяці тому +4

    Thanks for the message at the halfway point
    It’s nice to hear those things 🙃

  • @lavkitsune
    @lavkitsune 3 місяці тому

    This sort of videos are great. It is good that you actually tell how different roles should perform, especially with defenders that have kinda thankless job. They don't often get those 100k damage numbers, but enable damage dealers to do that instead. Also yesterday on your tournament stream you had great video material about eject button techs. Tech videos like that would take more work than basic videos, but they would be very educational! On your stream I could notice plenty of viewers learning new stuff and that was great!

  • @lukasmihara
    @lukasmihara 4 місяці тому +4

    I wish you could do the same with e.g. Snorlax. Going in and keeping several enemies away. However, you'd just die pretty quickly unless you have your Unite. Nowadays all the defenders have self-sustain etc. Power creep I guess.
    I mean you can keep the enemies away for a bit, but not for this long. The problem though anyways is the fact that your teammates often won't capitalize on you defending. You can keep three people occupied, so it's a 4v2 for your team at teh objective, and a few seconds later all you see is the enemy team got the buff/Rayquaza etc. It's frustrating.
    Goodra seems a bit better for soloQ as the damage output isn't that bad either.
    Anyways, nice match! I'd be interested to see Muddy Water + Acid Spray, too!

    • @CM_684
      @CM_684 4 місяці тому +3

      I'm constantly stunning the enemy team with blastoise, tree, crustle at ray and then I see my team back-capping or hiding in grass like

    • @michaelmckinley8432
      @michaelmckinley8432 3 місяці тому +2

      @@CM_684lmao same I’m a defender main and I question myself every game like “was I doing the wrong thing?” Watch the replay and see my team afk farming or going across map to score 20 points when we are losing or winning by 200 lol some games are just meant to lose.

    • @CM_684
      @CM_684 3 місяці тому +1

      @@michaelmckinley8432 they think back-capping 50 points is more important than ray

    • @michaelmckinley8432
      @michaelmckinley8432 3 місяці тому +1

      @@CM_684 yes exactly, and it blows my mind. How many times do you have to lose to learn lol

  • @xaruriin
    @xaruriin 4 місяці тому +1

    i'm new to the defender role and while i've been doing pretty okay, it's been getting harder to know how to do better as i climb ranks. thank you so much for this helpful video!

  • @hasanainfg9610
    @hasanainfg9610 4 місяці тому +9

    As a gold badge snorlax main and green badge with all other defenders I see this video as absolute W

    • @ImNotGoodAtAnimation
      @ImNotGoodAtAnimation 4 місяці тому +2

      I'm close to getting my first green badge :D!! It's Blastoise also

    • @Eugene19877
      @Eugene19877 4 місяці тому

      @@ImNotGoodAtAnimationI love that Pokémon

    • @ImNotGoodAtAnimation
      @ImNotGoodAtAnimation 4 місяці тому

      @@Eugene19877 Ikr, i had a game with Blastoise and Trevenant as my lane partner, it was a stun lock hell for the enemies lol

  • @starrcheng
    @starrcheng 4 місяці тому +8

    Unfortunately goodra just doesn't have the playmaking potential that Blastoise/Umbreon do

    • @Niroc69420
      @Niroc69420 4 місяці тому +5

      in draft mode it is never picked because goodra doesn't have utility for the team like other tanks, you need cc take blastoise you need to handle dangerous threats take slowbro, you need to isolate carries take Umbreon, ...

    • @CASantos
      @CASantos 4 місяці тому +1

      ​@@Niroc69420 the closest goodra can come to providing value iirc is muddy water + acid spray + x speed (so almost what Jake showed in this video). I think I've seen some say energy amp for more unite(healing) uptime i guess. That's the most CC it can possibly run, since it's gooey effect mostly requires point blank range. Ironic, cuz in the main games it has ginormous SpD and is extremely hard to burst down with mages... which are what eats it up in Unite, unfortunately (+ snipers). I'd love to see it get a bit of a rework...

  • @SeanBrown23
    @SeanBrown23 2 місяці тому

    Goodra is my main as well. In my opinion the Goodra effect is best used with power whip and dragon pulse; equipped with shel bell for faster access to abilities, resonant guard-and the controversial-Assault vest. Basic, stack HP, Sp. Def, Sp. ATK, and greatly reduced cooldowns. Hinder, Shield Allies, and assist

  • @Durio_zibethinus
    @Durio_zibethinus 4 місяці тому +6

    We need surviving guide more for defender+supporter

  • @IamGundam3
    @IamGundam3 4 місяці тому +4

    As a defender main, I approve of this video.

  • @splatmaster1903
    @splatmaster1903 4 місяці тому +2

    I'm all for more defender/support videos

  • @ax_XIII
    @ax_XIII 4 місяці тому +1

    We definitely need more like this

  • @reesemayhew1824
    @reesemayhew1824 4 місяці тому +1

    Would you be able to do a video similar to this as a supporter, specifically as a healer support?

  • @suyoshi9969
    @suyoshi9969 4 місяці тому +3

    If you want an alternative damage build, rapid-fire scarf instead of aeos cookie is super good

    • @ImNotGoodAtAnimation
      @ImNotGoodAtAnimation 4 місяці тому

      Question: Do you think Muscle Band would be better on Blastoise or should I use Rapid Fire Scarf still?
      Just looking for some tips

    • @mohdfaiz1107
      @mohdfaiz1107 4 місяці тому

      ​@@ImNotGoodAtAnimationuse resonant guard, focus band and spoon for blastoise.
      I know his boosted resets its special attack but i think spoon is better

    • @CM_684
      @CM_684 4 місяці тому

      ​@@ImNotGoodAtAnimationscarf if on special attackers, muscle passive is useless I think

  • @bensquirtle
    @bensquirtle 4 місяці тому

    I love goodra as a defender. It’s my go to pokemon if i need to be a defender. But i choose the beam instead of muddy water because of the healing effect. Does muddy water heal as well? Power whip is good combo.

  • @kanikmesh8870
    @kanikmesh8870 4 місяці тому

    Some dragons hit you with a hyper beam or a whole earthquake.. Goodra splashes muddy water 😂

  • @Miss_P_2
    @Miss_P_2 4 місяці тому +2

    I alwayss play defender when i play in my duo!!
    Random players are not worth defending sometimes =)

  • @gordon.sarratt
    @gordon.sarratt 4 місяці тому

    Love the love for muddy water goodra, it’s not just amazing but it’s a lot of fun

  • @Belesprit656
    @Belesprit656 4 місяці тому +3

    Oh I get it, a good defender because goodra.

    • @sakaiiyuji7977
      @sakaiiyuji7977 4 місяці тому

      No a good defender because of suppport pokemon who is accompany him!°

  • @Fenriot
    @Fenriot 4 місяці тому

    Spragels playing muddy water goodra is a bliss

  • @jared01c
    @jared01c 3 місяці тому

    Can you do a Buzzwole video? I was playing it during the Unite weekend and would love to see a current meta video of it. Had a good laugh with my friend as I just slammed the enemy back towards them for the KO

  • @bbjb7459
    @bbjb7459 4 місяці тому

    Definitely a Goodra effect player

  • @alvinfelton8781
    @alvinfelton8781 4 місяці тому

    Been playing this goodra been since day 1

  • @CruzerTre
    @CruzerTre 3 місяці тому

    Spragels was the real adc this game. Attack defender carry for those uneducated. You can defend my team anytime Sir Sprags a lot.

  • @OzzyTheGiant
    @OzzyTheGiant 4 місяці тому +2

    Is score shield still a viable alternative, considering that this may be a necessary source of exp for tanks?

    • @mohdfaiz1107
      @mohdfaiz1107 4 місяці тому +1

      It get outclassed by other better defense items

    • @CM_684
      @CM_684 4 місяці тому

      Resonant guard is so much better, also buddy barrier

  • @pinkprincess6136
    @pinkprincess6136 3 місяці тому

    You play Goodra very well.

  • @azraeltom
    @azraeltom 4 місяці тому

    I wonder if it'd be possible for Snorlax to hold out like Goodra did in 5:18.
    If not, I wonder what changes would make it viable. I remember Lax getting a recent buff on Unite
    Edit: Just had an idea- what if the unite cd got reduced with assists or interruptions

  • @adphoenix600
    @adphoenix600 4 місяці тому

    I’m a goodra player and a tier list of what you put down is good place I think I accept B or A I think that is a good spot for it

  • @player-ty2sy
    @player-ty2sy 4 місяці тому

    Getting a regirock at the end was just luck for this build 😂

  • @elanorfairbairn
    @elanorfairbairn 3 місяці тому

    Like these types of video but I feel you should comment more as you play along what you're doing defender-wise. I know it's probably obvious but for us noobs it isn't always

  • @DanielMartinez-dy5wg
    @DanielMartinez-dy5wg 4 місяці тому

    I've seen enough, Goodra is the god tier Pokémon of the week

  • @Drop0sauce
    @Drop0sauce 3 місяці тому

    If you play a support with exp share and a tank you 75 percent more likely to win matches just off of team comp alone idk why people play lane cinder over eldeglock at least your more valuable and still a good carry for dps

  • @josephakpan1527
    @josephakpan1527 4 місяці тому +4

  • @dalton8549
    @dalton8549 4 місяці тому

    What defender or support would be best for a 5 stack atm?

    • @andrewgood7586
      @andrewgood7586 4 місяці тому +1

      Id say Lapras/Umbreon and Blastoise for defenders.
      Supports, probably Clefable and Blissey mostly.

    • @dalton8549
      @dalton8549 4 місяці тому +1

      @@andrewgood7586 thank you very much! I’m trying to come back to these roles again and honestly want to get a ribbon on one of them.

  • @jeansantos9804
    @jeansantos9804 3 місяці тому

    Mamoswine high horse power peeling

  • @idunnowhatimdoin
    @idunnowhatimdoin 4 місяці тому +1

    i fill in as defender when necessary but ngl it's hard to get levels, and then your teammates who stole every last hit start pinging you for farming while they're 1v3ing. NOT VENTING lol ..just wondering how to overcome that kinda situation and communicate that w/ the team

    • @CASantos
      @CASantos 4 місяці тому +1

      Just run exp share? Idk, I've never really struggled for levels as a defender whilst also not having time to get back and lead objective fights. You should be playing with the team, getting assists, and leveling up mostly that way.

    • @idunnowhatimdoin
      @idunnowhatimdoin 4 місяці тому

      do run exp share but if the other team is 3+ levels ahead, getting right back to fight them is just feeding.

  • @Mud_Kipz
    @Mud_Kipz 4 місяці тому

    I didnt know Muddy Water has a high winrate. I always use dragon pulse at it has a high sustainability for me

    • @MusicComet
      @MusicComet 4 місяці тому

      Probably a high WR% due to less people playing it and thus the smaller portion just mattering more in a 100% view. Same stuff why greedent can have good WR% but low pick rates, the lesser the numbers the bigger the percentages.

  • @novarwhoshere2sip865
    @novarwhoshere2sip865 4 місяці тому

    Just in case for everyone that copy's and paste 😅. Blissey emblem is the same as Zapdos.

  • @ginmikgin
    @ginmikgin 3 місяці тому

    Goodra is good if the other team has auto attack heavy mon. Unfortunately, no one plays such mon rn.

    • @ginmikgin
      @ginmikgin 3 місяці тому

      *Except dragapult, glaceon but any good player would stay away from you anyways

  • @shingwu2481
    @shingwu2481 4 місяці тому +1

    Muddy water may strong but at least hav suporter pokemon 😅😅

  • @BohdanChub
    @BohdanChub 4 місяці тому

    Please make a video on best emblems sets (and for what mons) when you only have three default slots.

    • @AtomSmyth10
      @AtomSmyth10 4 місяці тому +1

      Probably 6 brown 6 white, 6 green 6 white, and 7 black 6 green if only 3 slots

  • @sakaiiyuji7977
    @sakaiiyuji7977 4 місяці тому

    For higher chance of winning a match with goodra PLS dont make the mistake in solo q to do a muddy water build especially without a blizzey!!!
    Pls allways use dragonbreath or you are just a piece of waste in a teamfight for your team!

    • @Sandity
      @Sandity 4 місяці тому

      Simply run a anti heal item & your golden

    • @sakaiiyuji7977
      @sakaiiyuji7977 4 місяці тому

      @@Sandity wtf has anti heal item to do with the amount of dmg YOU take with muddy water build and what has it to to with amount of hp YOU can#t heal yourself?

  • @thepokeninjas
    @thepokeninjas 3 місяці тому

    My build has 29.5 sp attack

  • @KalosNinja
    @KalosNinja 4 місяці тому

    Anyways to get hold of pokemon unite to send a complaint, got banned from chat for 300+ days and didn't even say anything wrong

  • @JiosLife
    @JiosLife 4 місяці тому

    Love Goodra but it’s not good. Curse items really hurt it, and cc makes dragon pulse unplayable. If u get stunned you die because it cancels it dragonpulse. Lapras, blastiose, treveant just are better

  • @DaigonRoogen
    @DaigonRoogen 4 місяці тому

    I don't know aboyt muddy water Goodra. I've had a lot more success with Pulse Goodra as long as my lane partner isn't using cc that moves enemies away from my Dragon Pulse. Certainly has been my highest win rate. 🤷🏻‍♂️

  • @violetisaghost
    @violetisaghost 4 місяці тому

    no spragels, this isn't accurate! the best way to defend your team is to use glaceon with a goalgetter and an attack weight

  • @pyranitar
    @pyranitar 4 місяці тому

    Ironic using Goodra to showcase what defender is supposed to do, as it’s the defender that least functions like a defender in the game.

  • @user-gp8gl8mj5z
    @user-gp8gl8mj5z 4 місяці тому

    Hi

  • @BBpaintball
    @BBpaintball 4 місяці тому

    This isn't Crustle. Click bait😅

  • @RikasCorner
    @RikasCorner 3 місяці тому

    Better to explain please.. Than silent

  • @WickedTree
    @WickedTree 4 місяці тому +1

    Mamoswine is still S tier

  • @N8tiveWeeb
    @N8tiveWeeb 4 місяці тому

    You got defenders on your team? And they know what to do? That’s very rare.

  • @archy8822
    @archy8822 4 місяці тому

    Goodra is overbuffed. Just make the whip pull regardless of sweet spot and lower beams heal by like 15% so he doesn't just get all his hp back. And increase the cooldown of his passive. That way he will still be good just not immortal. And it will bring him down to the same lv of other defenders.

    • @splatmaster1903
      @splatmaster1903 4 місяці тому

      ua-cam.com/video/7b9uXjTLk5U/v-deo.htmlsi=jUtL0QR_9xdUAz1x

    • @MusicComet
      @MusicComet 4 місяці тому

      Yeah but goodra doesn't even have anything that could do things if they nerf the healing on dpulse. Healing is literally the only thing it does, whereas you have lapras, umbreon, slowbro, trevenant that can heal, stun and damage all at once. Plus curse items really hurt it and it's unusable into that, which is something most attackers use nowadays. It has tons of counters, one of them being CC, which it and its dpulse is not resistant to.

    • @mimesforcrimes8393
      @mimesforcrimes8393 4 місяці тому +1

      Mate, I can feel your noob energy overflowing just from this comment 💀

    • @archy8822
      @archy8822 4 місяці тому

      @MusicComet @mimesforcrimes8393
      my answer to both of u is simple. Stop tunneling on stuns. So, if a character doesn't have stuns, it can't be overbuffed? What a simplistic way of thinking. And btw all other defenders who heal half as much as goodra have been nerf to the ground.

    • @mimesforcrimes8393
      @mimesforcrimes8393 4 місяці тому

      @@archy8822 You do realise that Dragon Pulse is Goodra's worst move right? Goodra isn't op if you STAY 6 FEET AWAY FROM HIM AND PEPPER HIM WITH RANGED ATTACKS.
      "oh but what about Power Whip" YOU HAVE EJECT BUTTON AND A FUCKING MOBILITY MOVE, USE IT.
      I'm tired of people overhyping Goodra, he REALLY isn't that good... If you want to complain about a character with apparent "bs" stuns and amazing healing, complain about TREVENANT

  • @dalebob9364
    @dalebob9364 4 місяці тому

    I play as good or better than this dragapult and get 100k+ dmg and I can't get out of ultra.
    Ever since they merged the mobile and switch servers(with all of North America I'm guessing?) It's nothing but Spanish speaking people screaming obscenities and horrible matchmaking.
    This game went from about a 8.5 to a 5 in 2023 alone.
    Been really fun playing since closed beta but they are rapidly changing it into a mobile gotcha game and the quality of life is suffering greatly for the average long time player.
    Just check out how hard it was for JB to get to Master's compared to Chris and spragles. 😊 Nothing to see there folks!

  • @slowstartpokemon8652
    @slowstartpokemon8652 4 місяці тому

    Hi Spragels, you don’t actually explain what you are doing or why in this game which to me makes it not very helpful as a guide to how you should play as a defender.

  • @sakaiiyuji7977
    @sakaiiyuji7977 4 місяці тому

    Normaly you tell realy smart things. But this is stupid.
    Pls at least tell your audition the truth!
    My main pokemon is goodra and WITHOUT a healing support Character in the Current meta...you CAN'T play "Muddy Water" on Goodra....that would be stupid and you die instantly!
    You cant survive long enoug in teamfights without dragonpulse OR muddy watter PLUS!!!!! Heal Support Pokemon!!!

    • @spragels
      @spragels  4 місяці тому +1

      You can play without dragon pulse. Not every pokemon in the game has massive self heal and it’s okay.

    • @sakaiiyuji7977
      @sakaiiyuji7977 4 місяці тому

      @@spragels Yeah of course you can play without dragon pulse. But every pokemon who hasn't this skill, has OTHER skill builds wich are more suited for them. But for goodra...muddy water ONLY works in a 5 stack team and/or with heal support...otherwise you go down like a lil smal glas canon

    • @sakaiiyuji7977
      @sakaiiyuji7977 4 місяці тому

      Oh and btw. Muddy water only helps you hold through against maybe 2 enemies but your hp will go down and you cant do anything about it, especialy with no grass around. AND the dmg output you do with muddy water is nothing compared to the dmg from dragon pulse PLUS the healing...so you can hold through against 3 or even 4. Gives your teammates MUCH more freedom to put on some pressure on the other lane!

    • @azi2g
      @azi2g 4 місяці тому

      ​@@sakaiiyuji7977I would argue you can play muddy water but you need to use potion that dreadful dreaded item and or use a focus band that Nerfed item. It's still possible to use but I do agree dragon pulse is just better solo.