You could get a scratch stone used for testing precious metals. You just scratch the edge of the bar against the stone to get a line of metal powder and put the acid on the stone. That way, no acid spot on the bar. If it's just silver plated, it will also detect if there's copper under the silver plate.
You really took one for the team there and I appreciate it. I just received a very large number of rounds from a reputable billion dealer and they all failed the ping test. I just ordered some acid and wanted to see other people results. Good work man!
I don't like to do destructive testing on my coins and bars. You can use an accurate scale to see if it's exactly the weight that it should be, plus use a neodymium magnet to test if it's real. Best is to buy from a trusted dealer.
+AbuserTube Specific gravity tests are also very effective, worst that happens is the metal gets wet. Magnet is effective if a fake is not copper core, as the diamagnetic effect is similar. Agree with trusted dealer, everyone (interested in precious metals) should know their local bullion and coin dealers.
Lord Knightyme True, but if the core is copper, then the weight would be wrong for the size of the coin or bar. So if you do both, weighing it and the magnet test, it should get rid of at least most fakes.
ive heard no end of jewellers use acid test on coins or bars etc which i know can be dammaging and reduces the value but does any jeweller that uses such a test declare so to a customer ?
You commented tat you destroyed the Maple, I disagree as the only value it has IS the silver, all you did was confirmed that the coin is real, keep on stackin😄
Thanks for showing us how to test for silver. I bought 4 one Troy ounce silver on Ebay and I have no way of testing them out. I looked to see if they had 100 ratings and read the feedbacks. I can only trust them. My dad told me that pure silver is softer and melts faster. I have no clue. He also said that they turn black over time in jewelries. Now a days I don't know my true silver . Some of the bracelets and earring and rings I purchased as gifts . They turn black overtime. I was told that was real silver. There was 2 item that turned greenish over time. I was told that was not pure silver. It was probably mixed with alloy or zinc.
You can buff those burn marks out with a drill buffer or electronic buffer. Just may take some work, no worries at the very least wait till they hit $40 an ounce again and just sell them for scrap ! ;-)
I don't have that silver acid I only have that gold testing acid from 10 to 14 to 18 carrot they said with sterling silver it should turn blue with 99.9 per cent purity or what colors should the acid turn
The acid test you did were so generous of you to sacrifice your silver to do. It was painful to watch you acid test those large bars as it also makes it less valuable for you if you decide to resell them at some point. Thank you for the education.
If you don't want to use acid, you can do definitive tests with neodymium magnets (out of a hard drive) and digital scales. I have a two vids up showing the procedure.
I get a kick out of some people that buy certain kinds of silver bars with limited addition on them, basically you have a limited addition of absolutely nothing, it's just silver lol.
+MN TreasureDiver Bright Red = Fine Silver (.999) Dark Red = Sterling or Coin (.925 or .900) Brown = Silver (.800) Blue = Copper Green = Brass Turquoise = Nickel
+Andres Agredo Pretty much $0 lost on the spot price (current price at the time, typically updated every 30-60 minutes while stock market is open). 1oz of silver is still 1oz of silver after the acid test. I think you are asking about what is called numismatic value (typically coins or rarer sought out bars), and premium, being the amount someone will pay over the spot price of silver, in that case you can say bye bye to that, but the actual metal value remains. Some real rare bars can be many times the spot price, 10x is not uncommon. Let's say the spot price is $21 (around the current Australian $ for 1 oz silver), and I have a coin or bar from a respected mint, Perth Mint in Australia or Royal Canadian, in, well Canada, I would probably pay a good $9 more, for a total of $30 for that ounce of silver. Before the acid test I could get $30 back for that bar, after the acid test, $21 or the spot price, as the numismatic / premium value is gone.
your saying tom smiths silver is legit. your name is john paul with only 1 youtube video. tell me something isn't fishy!sounds like someone has been making up names...
@@iksplizit there would be no reason to name the ebay seller, unless you wanted to warn about fakes. search for the ebay seller now. see if it is still there. if it is gone, it was selling fakes for sure
ghost troLL sorry. I shouldnt have tagged you in reply. I intended to respond to the thread. These fake testing vids are flooding my feed since i got a fake myself and started researching. This guys vid stands out as more of a plug for tom smith than a debunk of fakes. Didnt mean to offend. Keep stackin. 👊
This is why I use a sharp knife and shave the tiniest little shavings to test my silver bullion. :) or I use a scratcher board... sometimes it doesnt work tho
Funny. I searched for the user Tomsmith196012 on eBay and there is no user by that name. This raises a big red flag. Did this person lose their account for fraud? Hmmm
instead of destroying your silver why don't you just buy the stone that comes with acid and use that instead? I will give junk price for that silver lol thanks for video I just hate seeing that silver being done like that
suspect is right,advertising for that ebay account as real, which is prob fake. and u don't even tell us were u bought the your identifiable fake pieces.thats more important info to have.
This reminds me of the old Witch Test in medieval times , if she sinks she isn't a witch! Let me pour out some liquor for that impeccable silver that is no longer with us. Thank you for this video!
What is the point of this... There are way better ways to test that will prevent you from losing so much metal and destroying the premium value. Basically all of your silver is only worth spot price.
Deplorable Dorothy didn't destroy it it's still worth its weight in silver. Plus it seems like he's trying to prove his silver is real and guide people to his eBay store
Explosive Diarrhoea I dont think the man is silly at all. here's why unless you have expensive xray equipment you have absolutely no way other than acid to detect counterfeit silver or gold. sure you can ping it you can magnet test it but that doesn't give you purity test so how do you suppose you re going to know other wise? my advice stop buying gold and silver for collectibility and buy for its content not it's looks. because when you get ready to sell that how is it you suppose the people buying are going to test it. it's silly not to test it
Fishy i don't see someone doing this for no reason other that financial gain. I hope you saved the worlds most expensive face cloth and listed that on the TomSMith 196012 store also. #Clickbaitadd Also thats probably not what he'd send. Ships from China.
coin colletors that complain about appearances of silver are having a duck right now. I giggle about it. I've seen people have an absokute come apart about flaws in silver and gold. I'm over here like ummm how do you know you have real silver or gold of your not testing this stuff? what ya think is gonna happen when you go to sell it? companies even drill large gold bars Lol bet you change your mind in a hurry buying because it's pretty instead of content after that.😂
You could get a scratch stone used for testing precious metals. You just scratch the edge of the bar against the stone to get a line of metal powder and put the acid on the stone. That way, no acid spot on the bar. If it's just silver plated, it will also detect if there's copper under the silver plate.
Thanks for sacrificing such nice coins to teach us about the use of acids to verify precious metals.
I know this is 10 years old, but thank you so much for sacrificing those coins in pursuit of knowledge
You really took one for the team there and I appreciate it. I just received a very large number of rounds from a reputable billion dealer and they all failed the ping test. I just ordered some acid and wanted to see other people results. Good work man!
Thanks for nuking your bars in providing such a great demo. Appreciate it!
Now that's commitment to purity, lol.
What if I apply a metal polish liquid to an acid-eaten part of a silver surface?
Will it remove the scar that the acid has done to the silver surface?
Really great demonstration, thank you!
i want to make my own test solution , does it say on the label what ratio of nitric and hcl was used to make it ?
what is the brand name of the acid you used to test your silver.
Excellent presentation. Thank you for sacrificing your silver.
I don't like to do destructive testing on my coins and bars. You can use an accurate scale to see if it's exactly the weight that it should be, plus use a neodymium magnet to test if it's real. Best is to buy from a trusted dealer.
+AbuserTube Specific gravity tests are also very effective, worst that happens is the metal gets wet.
Magnet is effective if a fake is not copper core, as the diamagnetic effect is similar.
Agree with trusted dealer, everyone (interested in precious metals) should know their local bullion and coin dealers.
Lord Knightyme True, but if the core is copper, then the weight would be wrong for the size of the coin or bar. So if you do both, weighing it and the magnet test, it should get rid of at least most fakes.
Maybe I missed it but did you happen to test 925 (sterling)? I was looking for a way to test sterling.
very nice test well done!
ive heard no end of jewellers use acid test on coins or bars etc which i know can be dammaging and reduces the value but does any jeweller that uses such a test declare so to a customer ?
is he really using an angle grinder?
is this acid test destructive to the silver coins and bars?
He's not destroying anything. It silver. If you're buying these things as some kind of collectable or art.....you're over paying.
Thanks for the test!
If I have an opportunity to buy 999% silver 4000 grams for 1000 is that an good price?
You commented tat you destroyed the Maple, I disagree as the only value it has IS the silver, all you did was confirmed that the coin is real, keep on stackin😄
Colorado Squibnic
These bar/coin have a proof finish. There is definately a plus value only for the workship on these bar/coin
Thanks for showing us how to test for silver. I bought 4 one Troy ounce silver on Ebay and I have no way of testing them out. I looked to see if they had 100 ratings and read the feedbacks. I can only trust them. My dad told me that pure silver is softer and melts faster. I have no clue. He also said that they turn black over time in jewelries. Now a days I don't know my true silver . Some of the bracelets and earring and rings I purchased as gifts . They turn black overtime. I was told that was real silver. There was 2 item that turned greenish over time. I was told that was not pure silver. It was probably mixed with alloy or zinc.
This video was like watching a man burn his house down to kill a bothersome fly
You can buff those burn marks out with a drill buffer or electronic buffer. Just may take some work, no worries at the very least wait till they hit $40 an ounce again and just sell them for scrap ! ;-)
I don't have that silver acid I only have that gold testing acid from 10 to 14 to 18 carrot they said with sterling silver it should turn blue with 99.9 per cent purity or what colors should the acid turn
Is there any other substance to test the bar without any damage
how much did u get the 10 gram bar from tomsmith
The acid test you did were so generous of you to sacrifice your silver to do. It was painful to watch you acid test those large bars as it also makes it less valuable for you if you decide to resell them at some point. Thank you for the education.
If you don't want to deface the front or back of your silver, try using the edge of your bars.
Scratch stone is best.....
If you don't want to use acid, you can do definitive tests with neodymium magnets (out of a hard drive) and digital scales. I have a two vids up showing the procedure.
I get a kick out of some people that buy certain kinds of silver bars with limited addition on them, basically you have a limited addition of absolutely nothing, it's just silver lol.
How about using a test stone instead of damaging the metals face
can you grind down the big bars to?
Lol
they are beautiful coins too bad that solution left little marks on them , nice of you showing us
Can you do it one more time on each bar? I don't think you did it enough times. :-)
Plus he didn't use the grinder enough. LOL
I hope you get to buy more silver with the money you made from this video. A great sacrifice for the sake of information ....
very good helpful video.thanks for sharing
Very good...thanks..
Great video but the big bars could be drilled out and rods added. Need X-ray for that.
i have a tough time with silver acid tests, very confusing colors and results, never sure if they are acurate
+MN TreasureDiver Bright Red = Fine Silver (.999)
Dark Red = Sterling or Coin (.925 or .900)
Brown = Silver (.800)
Blue = Copper
Green = Brass
Turquoise = Nickel
Will 950 silver turn red also ? If no, what color will it turn?
Whyd you just destroy all that silver?
most expensive trolling ever??
That big 100 oz bar could possibly have lower quality metal core.
Blue its fake silver not 925s?
Why am I getting the feeling you're EBay's "tomsmith"?? 😆
I'm pretty sure this type of testing solution contains potassium dichromate to give the colors.
so how much the acid destroy the value of the real silver?
+Andres Agredo Pretty much $0 lost on the spot price (current price at the time, typically updated every 30-60 minutes while stock market is open). 1oz of silver is still 1oz of silver after the acid test.
I think you are asking about what is called numismatic value (typically coins or rarer sought out bars), and premium, being the amount someone will pay over the spot price of silver, in that case you can say bye bye to that, but the actual metal value remains. Some real rare bars can be many times the spot price, 10x is not uncommon.
Let's say the spot price is $21 (around the current Australian $ for 1 oz silver), and I have a coin or bar from a respected mint, Perth Mint in Australia or Royal Canadian, in, well Canada, I would probably pay a good $9 more, for a total of $30 for that ounce of silver. Before the acid test I could get $30 back for that bar, after the acid test, $21 or the spot price, as the numismatic / premium value is gone.
+Lord Knightyme
Ok... So the melt value does not change!
Does the solution actually puts a deep hole onto each bar?
yes. One of the stupidest things I've ever seen on the internet.
Deplorable Dorothy you'd be surprised how many pawn shops test like this.
why didn't you just cut them in half instead of grinding them
your saying tom smiths silver is legit. your name is john paul with only 1 youtube video. tell me something isn't fishy!sounds like someone has been making up names...
Joe Martinez, or he is like all other regular UA-cam viewers with random names. Like Joe Martinez. Lol I wonder how common that name is.
Bewildering Truth Seeker i think what he's saying is John Paul is Tom Smith
@@iksplizit there would be no reason to name the ebay seller, unless you wanted to warn about fakes. search for the ebay seller now. see if it is still there. if it is gone, it was selling fakes for sure
@@gosnellktn what are you talking about? I was clarifying something not stating or asking anything
ghost troLL sorry. I shouldnt have tagged you in reply. I intended to respond to the thread. These fake testing vids are flooding my feed since i got a fake myself and started researching. This guys vid stands out as more of a plug for tom smith than a debunk of fakes. Didnt mean to offend. Keep stackin. 👊
Pretty sure this is an ad lol. Well done though good marketing
Even you are unsure
Without a face mask, you are really taking a serious risk with fine silver particles as you grind. Would use a jewelers beveled drill bit instead.
You should renane your video- How to destroy your silver by pouring acid on it.
This is the way I test all my silver. Grind it to a fine powder then give it an acid bath. lol
It will be easier just to buy from respectable sellers instead.
This is why I use a sharp knife and shave the tiniest little shavings to test my silver bullion. :) or I use a scratcher board... sometimes it doesnt work tho
Bewildering Truth Seeker I was wondering the same thing but I guess for the purposes of UA-cam it doesnt hurt to ruin a few Oz for all the viewers
Steven Sager i guess so :P
Funny. I searched for the user Tomsmith196012 on eBay and there is no user by that name. This raises a big red flag. Did this person lose their account for fraud? Hmmm
MAD MAN..
So how much of your assets should be in hard assets - gold, silver, palladium? A range is ok brah!
+Bob Sides Usually about 10%
+themanginaman Thank you so very much. Does it matter the mix? Gold / silver / Platinum / palladium? Or just the hard asset?
Bob Sides I would only recommend silver and gold. I buy an ounce of gold for ever 100 ounces of silver I have.
Thank you for the information. That solves a lot of my questions.
instead of destroying your silver why don't you just buy the stone that comes with acid and use that instead? I will give junk price for that silver lol thanks for video I just hate seeing that silver being done like that
There's better ways to test than to destroy..jeez it hurts..
This is without a doubt the most ridiculous video on UA-cam. This needs a much wider audience (for entertainment purposes!)
this dude must hate silver
There are less drastic ways to check your silver collection, just saying..
Just take it to a pawn shop and try to sell by the weight and purity. Guaranteed free test without ph-ucking up your investment.
I like it
lol,how about nuke testing them? a little overkill with the grinder. ever hear of a file.
who buys silver bars with Chinese lettering? LOL
+themanginaman i will buy it
next time use a drill so you can retain the metal loss
why deface and devalue your metals? Do a specific gravity test it's the best test without buying an expensive preciouse metals verifier.
For me I acid test before buying with the stone
Forget the acid test .
suspect is right,advertising for that ebay account as real, which is prob fake. and u don't even tell us were u bought the your identifiable fake pieces.thats more important info to have.
WHAT THE FUCK?? You can test silver without destroying it.
This reminds me of the old Witch Test in medieval times , if she sinks she isn't a witch! Let me pour out some liquor for that impeccable silver that is no longer with us. Thank you for this video!
What is the point of this... There are way better ways to test that will prevent you from losing so much metal and destroying the premium value. Basically all of your silver is only worth spot price.
Yes youve completely proved they are solid silver... Now throw them in the bin
You're very silly for destroying your silver.
Deplorable Dorothy didn't destroy it it's still worth its weight in silver. Plus it seems like he's trying to prove his silver is real and guide people to his eBay store
Explosive Diarrhoea I dont think the man is silly at all. here's why unless you have expensive xray equipment you have absolutely no way other than acid to detect counterfeit silver or gold. sure you can ping it you can magnet test it but that doesn't give you purity test so how do you suppose you re going to know other wise? my advice stop buying gold and silver for collectibility and buy for its content not it's looks. because when you get ready to sell that how is it you suppose the people buying are going to test it. it's silly not to test it
Anthony Poole Why wouldn't you just do a specific gravity test? No other metals have the same specific gravity of pure silver.
Ugh! Don't grind, just drill a small hole and test the filings
Fishy i don't see someone doing this for no reason other that financial gain. I hope you saved the worlds most expensive face cloth and listed that on the TomSMith 196012 store also. #Clickbaitadd Also thats probably not what he'd send. Ships from China.
This is kinda painful to watch. Aye chingao!
apmex bet that ant real. the worst people to buy from I got ripped buy them and they refuse to refund me.
vorkev1 ...they probably don't want to take back the fake bars that aren't theirs. You can bet people tried that
Ooooof. Harsh way to test. I don't think I wanna screw up my coins & bars that way =/
coin colletors that complain about appearances of silver are having a duck right now. I giggle about it. I've seen people have an absokute come apart about flaws in silver and gold. I'm over here like ummm how do you know you have real silver or gold of your not testing this stuff? what ya think is gonna happen when you go to sell it? companies even drill large gold bars Lol bet you change your mind in a hurry buying because it's pretty instead of content after that.😂
Turning blooooo! Lololol
Haha lol dis dude got banned from a stream lol