What They Don't Tell You About 10th level Spells - D&D

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  • @dustind4694
    @dustind4694 5 років тому +1327

    The gods: "No, don't use that magic! The gods forbid it!"
    Arcane casters: "...You have obviously not been paying attention to my career of ignoring you, and I resent that."

  • @picklesandnori
    @picklesandnori 5 років тому +744

    So youre telling me, you can make a forcefield that will fry you if you dont throw up the right gang sign before you walk through

    • @CounterStrikeLover10
      @CounterStrikeLover10 4 роки тому +86

      Sounds like Mexico to me

    • @vwvwvsuki
      @vwvwvsuki 4 роки тому +11

      Whole Icewind Dale 1 & 2 story is build and refer to this Mythal spell.

    • @saltycooksgaming7286
      @saltycooksgaming7286 4 роки тому +2

      Welcome to Princes of apocalypse. (Haven't watched video yet so idk if he mentioned)

    • @robgau2501
      @robgau2501 Рік тому

      Yes! That's right! Bruh.

    • @T-adams
      @T-adams 11 місяців тому +3

      “Big B’s no c’s”
      walks right in

  • @D3LTA48
    @D3LTA48 5 років тому +588

    Karsus: I'ma restart the magic real quick hope you don't need it.
    Mages: Hol up, what?
    Mages: *Die*

  • @sanddry738
    @sanddry738 5 років тому +484

    13:27 The negative energy plane does exist in 5E and is very different to the shadowfell. (It’s that brown/black outline on the bottom half/bottom shell of the great wheel cosmology) It’s where creatures such as Night-walkers reside and they’re in Mordikanin Tome of Foes. Maybe it was 4E that didn’t have it and instead focused on the shadowfell?

    • @ryanconrad2786
      @ryanconrad2786 5 років тому +39

      This comment should be highest. Had to stop the video when Rhexx made that incorrect statement and see if someone had corrected him. Not good to find it buried at the bottom of the comments.

    • @shoelaces_
      @shoelaces_ 5 років тому +13

      This video almost feels like it was a little rushed, it seems like this could have been avoided by even taking a glance at the planes of existence part of the 5e PHB; I love these videos but I would have liked to believe that there was more fact-checking.
      I believe there's yet another error in the video. At 15:38 he pronounced Ioulaum as Loulaum, which stood out to me after the previous issue but this may actually be the correct pronunciation, I'm not sure as I can't find an official pronunciation anywhere and I'm not too knowledgeable about the subject.

    • @dhalterman
      @dhalterman 5 років тому +16

      The 5E chart of the planes he shows even has the Positive and Negative Planes on it.

    • @n8-j722
      @n8-j722 5 років тому +8

      5E Specifically has:
      Appendix C of Player's Handbook
      Chapter 2 in Dungeon Master's Guide
      page 278 in Monster Manual; Death Slaad
      page 216 in Mordenkinen's Tome of Foes; Nightwalker
      page 214 in Tomb of Annihilation; Atropal
      [All page numbers thanks to dndbeyond]

    • @MisterDaviso452
      @MisterDaviso452 5 років тому +22

      To clarify, Rhexx is not wrong: after the spell plague the planes were rekt and the whole cosmology changed as several planes fell into each other. Positive fused into feywild and negative fused into the shadowfell.
      The cosmology itself is really just mortals trying to understand the planes, not their actual setup, so people often just use the terms they believe/understand, such as negative plane instead of shadowfell. Not wrong, just outdated.

  • @sethspinda
    @sethspinda 3 роки тому +219

    Mistra: you can't cast 10th level spells or higher anymore
    Arcane casters: I recognize that the council has made a decision, but seeing as its a stupid ass decision I've elected to ignore it

    • @laserlights9684
      @laserlights9684 Рік тому +11

      *proceeds to cast 10th level magic and fucking dies instantly*

    • @eno6712
      @eno6712 Рік тому +7

      ​@@laserlights9684most based death in DnD tbh .
      Only to revive as a Lich and Achieve 12th levek spells.

  • @Kingdomkey123678
    @Kingdomkey123678 5 років тому +175

    *mentions Neverwinter MMO*
    *Shows DDO Character creation*
    The superior MMO sneaks through always

  • @swankypants9366
    @swankypants9366 5 років тому +558

    I'ma be real with you stone to flesh sounds equally great and horrifying

    • @Narifamen
      @Narifamen 5 років тому +79

      It's primarily designed to counter petrification effects, but... yeeah. It works on anything made of stone. Doesn't bring it to life though. Hit a statue and you get a dead body.

    • @DragonXZero
      @DragonXZero 5 років тому +49

      @@Narifamen Are artificial humans a thing in dnd? Cause this sounds like something that could be used to make a homunculus or something

    • @Narifamen
      @Narifamen 5 років тому +34

      Dragon XZero Not to my knowledge. Homunculi in DND are more like little intelligent clay creatures. They are also unable to speak, but have a telepathic bond with their creator.
      Actual people though... the closest I can think of would be some old ancient lost magics- the plot stuff that lead to the creation of Mimics and Owlbears. And those aren’t exactly people.
      That said, any DM/GM worth the name should be able to write in an appropriate backstory for a PC, provided the setting fits.

    • @DragonXZero
      @DragonXZero 5 років тому +2

      @@Narifamen Ah I see, thank you

    • @WorldWalker128
      @WorldWalker128 5 років тому +5

      @@DragonXZero You mean like a flesh golem?

  • @Glokta4
    @Glokta4 5 років тому +393

    Seems like a full video could be done just on Netherese history.

    • @ganondorf5573
      @ganondorf5573 5 років тому +12

      I would love that

    • @Grinnar
      @Grinnar 5 років тому +10

      Jorphdan did, but maybe Rhexx can find something he missed.

    • @agsilverradio2225
      @agsilverradio2225 5 років тому

      I think he allready has.

  • @PeteZam
    @PeteZam 5 років тому +116

    Iolaums fate isnt a mystery. he went to the underdark and became the first elder brain lich, so he is an elder brain lich lvl 31 wizard, lvl 5 archmage, lvl 5 netherse arcanist. hes down in the underdark doing elder brain stuff. He is now known as the Oracle of Ellyn'taal and he resides in an ancient mind flayer city. Page 101 in lost empires of faerun.

    • @shastasalaip
      @shastasalaip 5 років тому +12

      And created the illithiliches or alhoons (or at least, he teach to the mind flayers how to become lich ).

    • @bitter-bit
      @bitter-bit 5 років тому +5

      Good for him

    • @matthewwolff6013
      @matthewwolff6013 5 років тому +5

      Ah, but Tabra his apprentice cast Ioulaums longevity and killed the city and elder brain after Ioulaum "apparently" died from an attack by an alhoon cabal. Ioulaum then took the elder brain as his new body, which she was unaware of.

    • @archangelofsorrow
      @archangelofsorrow 3 роки тому +1

      I want Ioulaum to be acerack

    • @SithCats
      @SithCats 2 роки тому +3

      Yep. The book MrRhexx pulled the content of this video from does indeed say Ioulaum's fate is unknown, but that's just because the books that spelled out what happened to him hadn't been written yet.

  • @joshuamorris5203
    @joshuamorris5203 5 років тому +80

    So, by combining Mavin's Create Volcano and Proctiv's Move Mountain, you've just made yourself a D&D Death Star. A floating mountain that spews lava wherever it goes...

    • @eno6712
      @eno6712 Рік тому +2

      Yes but if that Death Stad neessd , Ahem. " Male performance Enhancers " but didnt take them.
      Splirt splurt

  • @shandaniel2999
    @shandaniel2999 5 років тому +611

    Imagine doing all this just to cast fireball at 10th level or sum other upcast spell

  • @GeorgeK1467
    @GeorgeK1467 5 років тому +186

    Can I just say how much I appreciate your videos. I found your channel back when skyrim first came out and it still is one of the best discoveries i've had on UA-cam. I love listenting to your lore videos, they are so well made. Keep on being awesome MrRhexx!

    • @ThiccBane
      @ThiccBane 5 років тому +3

      Took the comment straight out of my mouth mate.

    • @TerrariaGolem
      @TerrariaGolem 5 років тому +3

      Same

    • @adamsky09
      @adamsky09 5 років тому +2

      You're not alone, there are many of us like that! 😉 All hail Rhexx

  • @sable5923
    @sable5923 4 роки тому +42

    "The MMO Neverwinter is set here."
    *shows picture of the Eberron mmo*

    • @chrisnichols9014
      @chrisnichols9014 2 роки тому

      DDO is better than Neverwinter. At least to me. lol

  • @tabithaalphess2115
    @tabithaalphess2115 5 років тому +37

    Always love discovering more about Epic Magic in D&D. As a DM, I have plans to incorporate it into my campaign, but not until after the tarrasque. :)

    • @Verwunscht
      @Verwunscht 5 років тому +3

      Remembee it is the last of his kind. Be nice to it😉

    • @tabithaalphess2115
      @tabithaalphess2115 5 років тому +10

      @@Verwunscht My villain may or may not use a Wish spell to summon it so she can get her hands on its blood for use in recreating Karsus's Avatar

    • @goliathcleric
      @goliathcleric 5 років тому +8

      Its great for villains. Players realize real quick that they are in for a different kind of fight when a 9th level counterspell fails and a wish has no effect at all to attempt to stop the villain from casting his spell.

    • @tabithaalphess2115
      @tabithaalphess2115 5 років тому +7

      @@goliathcleric No joke! Plus it's fun to see their faces when they realize the tarrasque isn't the final boss; it's a stepping stone to the real fight

  • @gerbill13
    @gerbill13 5 років тому +577

    12th lvl spell
    summon puppy

  • @KaminaCicada
    @KaminaCicada 5 років тому +9

    This and the previous video on magic has given my friend and I a new character idea. Both are rival classmates attempting to be the first to break the 9th level cap. I plan on a wizard, working diligently to find ways to surpass the limit. My friend plans on a sorcerer and she'll do it because " She was literally born to do it".

  • @sananaryon4061
    @sananaryon4061 5 років тому +701

    You keep calling it "Karsus' casting of the 12th level spell" and not its proper name: Karsus' Massive Fuckup

    • @tedective4427
      @tedective4427 5 років тому +63

      In his defense, the spell worked as intended. He just didn't know the immediate past president of the god of magic club would be so petty as to kill themselves before spell resolution.

    • @sciverzero8197
      @sciverzero8197 5 років тому +42

      It is actually officially known as a historic event called Karsus' Folly.... though the history of that event has been completely forgotten so..

    • @mrMaro132
      @mrMaro132 5 років тому +47

      @@tedective4427 It is not that Mystral committed suicide before spell resolution. Most of Mystral's consciousness was in a sleep-like state to control the flow of magic and sustain the Weave. Upon the spell resolution Karsus fused with Mystral (for a limited time, 1 hour if I remember correctly), unfortunately for him and Mystral, he was not able as a mortal to do what actual god of magic did continuously and as he gained all of Mystral's knowledge of the subject at the moment of spell resolving both him and Mystral knew that the result of this situation would destroy magic once and for all (and probably world with it) so they made the same decision in the exact same moment as they were technically one being at the time. They killed themselves to force a creation of new god of magic - Mystra. Of course there was a drawback of magic being "turned off" until Mystra was able to do her job, but still better than the calamita that was about to unfold.
      So I don't believe it was out of pettiness or spite, it was just that both sides agreed that there was no other way. Because, you know, Karsus did not want to become god, he just wanted to hold off phaerimms invading Netheril and he could choose any god to impersonate with "Karsus' avatar" but he chose the one he felt most attached to.

    • @bitter-bit
      @bitter-bit 5 років тому +8

      @@mrMaro132 I honestly pity Karsus and wish a campaign existed to rescue him from his fate to help him redeem himself

    • @mrMaro132
      @mrMaro132 5 років тому +19

      @@bitter-bit Nothing stops you from creating one! This is the best part of tabletops rpgs. The story told during the game is yours, shape it anyway you want. Even if you are not a DM you can work with him to be able to do that in his campaign.
      But I agree with you, it's a pity he died for he meant no harm, and actually he is already redeemed in my eyes. He took the fall after his mistake and sacrificed himself to prevent a calamity from unfolding.

  • @nephicus339
    @nephicus339 5 років тому +23

    2:34 - It's always that ONE person who ruins it for everybody.

  • @catalin2766
    @catalin2766 5 років тому +119

    I once had a character for a one shot that his whole thing was that he used the longevity spell and now h was over 5000 years old. It was cool.

    • @topogigio7031
      @topogigio7031 5 років тому +40

      Better yet, Warlock of the Undying. My party essentially got TPKed by starving to death in an inescapable room. My guy watched his friends fall, the DM sped time up and I was rescued decades later by the next adventuring group to come by. That's the story of how Stan replaced one whole party for another within one session

    • @TerrariaGolem
      @TerrariaGolem 5 років тому +1

      @@topogigio7031 :)

    • @UndeadGary
      @UndeadGary 5 років тому +13

      @@topogigio7031 Ya! I had a elf warlock of the undying that had a pact made for him as a child by his community so he could survive their community dying out to a deadly disease. Since he aged much slower (1/10th) by the time he joined the party he was almost 7000 years old (elfs typically living till 700) and feeling the limits of his extended mortality he seeks further means of extending his life and preserving his long dead community.
      It was a pretty fun character. Being older than some of the undead baddies we faced again or recalling memories of fallen ruins we explored while visiting them during their glory days.

    • @Bofrab
      @Bofrab 5 років тому +1

      I had a friend who had a Hill Dwarf Artificer who was 2000 years old because he built a giant ice cannon that went very out of hand. The hill now has a permanent winter on it.

  • @MrGabilonia
    @MrGabilonia 5 років тому +6

    In AD&D (2nd edition) Dark Sun “Dragon Kings” supplement, 10-level spells are presented in great detail and made available to end-tier players. A must read for everyone interested in God-level magic, Dark Sun enthusiasts and Ad&d nostalgics

  • @STARCRAFTisWH40K
    @STARCRAFTisWH40K 5 років тому +27

    One of the best flavor channels on youtube. Wonderful voice, script, and edits. The material you cover always leaves me wanting more. A great content creator if there ever was one!

  • @joshkorte9020
    @joshkorte9020 5 років тому +16

    In the lore of my homebrew world there was an ancient empire where all the humans lived in or around one of 6 pyramid. Several generations in there was a massive civil war so the humans of the smallest pyramid used move mountain to flee with their whole pyramid. And they became the halfling.

  • @drewforchic9083
    @drewforchic9083 5 років тому +15

    Karsus's Folly is one of my favorite stories in the Realms. I won't spoil it here in case you're going to cover it in a future video, but I love the tale.

    • @texteel
      @texteel 5 років тому +1

      wouldnt that spell be 12th level or something?

    • @drewforchic9083
      @drewforchic9083 5 років тому +2

      @@texteel Yes, it's the one 12th level spell he briefly mentioned here. I think the next video is going to cover it.

    • @texteel
      @texteel 5 років тому +1

      @@drewforchic9083 havent watch it yet, just looked at the comments.
      Anytime a spell above level 9 is mentioned, I immediately jump there

  • @Spite555
    @Spite555 5 років тому +193

    Why am I watching this I’ve never played D&D

    • @DavidShepheard
      @DavidShepheard 5 років тому +20

      It's never too late to start playing D&D.
      There are people around who will help you find a group, if you ever want to give it a go.

    • @picklesandnori
      @picklesandnori 5 років тому +9

      Im just a few sessions into my first game, with a bunch of new players as well, with one experienced player and an experienced dm. But we play at lunch breaks in school cause our schedules dont line up, so only like half an hour sessions.

    • @carlosemiralonso7997
      @carlosemiralonso7997 5 років тому +1

      Still can we do with whatsapp groups? Im from Argentina btw.

    • @ariat3381
      @ariat3381 5 років тому +1

      @@carlosemiralonso7997 discord

    • @asmmart11
      @asmmart11 5 років тому +1

      @@carlosemiralonso7997 yo quiero jugar también, formemos un grupo!

  • @jarzz3601
    @jarzz3601 5 років тому +26

    area of effect : mountain. I don't know why I find that funny but I do

    • @silvermagpie1071
      @silvermagpie1071 4 роки тому +1

      I mean, the 12th level spell is aoe: one god

  • @MrNicster
    @MrNicster 5 років тому +37

    The freakin' Netherise, man. Thanks for englightening us.

  • @Elmithian
    @Elmithian 5 років тому +379

    "She banned any mortal from casting 10th and 11th level spells..."
    Doesn't that mean that if one achieves immortality, you are free to learn those spells?

    • @lorekeeper685
      @lorekeeper685 5 років тому +64

      if you are skilled enough

    • @fisharepeopletoo9653
      @fisharepeopletoo9653 5 років тому +163

      The trick is immortality is a tenth level spell

    • @dirkmaes3786
      @dirkmaes3786 5 років тому +74

      There's an arcane theory that all the Gods are in fact nothing more than entities who go transcend the (9th level) limitations of The Weave. Either because they're naturally gifted through creation, or in rare cases through acquisition. It's rumored that Azuth, the God of magic practitioners in the Forgotten Realms Pantheon, used to be mortal. However, the idea that mortals can become equals to Gods is considered forbidden knowledge - to most of the uninitiated it's heresy to suggest Gods and mortals are cut from the same cloth and even in the enlightened magical academies the subject is a bit of a taboo because of the dangers and unpredictable side effects associated with attempting to cast 10+-level magic - they normally wouldn't teach apprentice wizards these kind of theories.

    • @deamon6681
      @deamon6681 5 років тому +20

      @@dirkmaes3786
      What about the raven queen? Isn't one of her significant lore bits, that she is an ascended mortal?

    • @dhufflepuff348
      @dhufflepuff348 5 років тому +4

      Well now I know what my next BBEG will be.

  • @DragonfoxShadow
    @DragonfoxShadow 4 роки тому +5

    There is one way in 5e that Clerics can use, to cast their spells as 10th lvl
    If Cleric read Book of Exalted Deeds, any spell they cast counts as one lvl higher
    So if they use 9th lvl spell slot, it counts as 10th lvl

  • @jek__
    @jek__ 4 роки тому +4

    Very cool, it would be fun to have a video talking about all the different netherial origins of spells. Would be great fodder for a character obsessed with studying them, who tries to remember every spell by its original name

  • @isy120
    @isy120 5 років тому +7

    God we've collect almost all the forgotten realms books so it's so interesting to see how the edition changes as the books scramble to explain how these happened

  • @enricorix
    @enricorix 5 років тому +7

    Woah my illustration of Karsus' Avatar is in the video.

  • @kevenblackworks1906
    @kevenblackworks1906 5 років тому +19

    I need to say, that I think you got some conflicting info. Mordenkaimens Tome of foes, gives us the Nightwalker stat block, and explains how to get to the negative plane, via Shadowfell. Now idk if d&d has a book cannon and what is what, but the wording seems to indicate that the negative plane is still accessible.

  • @bonbondurjdr6553
    @bonbondurjdr6553 5 років тому +2

    The idea of an item holding concentration for you sounds pretty great. Especially since in 5e so many spells require it!
    I'll think about adding this in my campaign!

  • @dracodragon5291
    @dracodragon5291 4 роки тому +1

    You literally have the perfect voice for this type of story telling and I love it. I also love your use of enunciation and emphasis to make your points more dramatic. I also love dnd and its lore so thx for sharing your knowledge

  • @orionar2461
    @orionar2461 5 років тому +6

    5e cosmology does still include the negative energy plane, as detailed in a number of creatures

  • @greatestoldone7658
    @greatestoldone7658 5 років тому +5

    "It doesn't matter what kind of elf you want to play, you still know a few cantrips"
    Wood elves, or any elf added in MToF? The only ones with innate spellcasting are high and dark.

  • @Frederic_S
    @Frederic_S 2 роки тому +1

    DM: "You open do door as you see five goblins, sitting around a table, playing cards.."
    Wizzard: "I cast create volcano!"

  • @tobimakkura
    @tobimakkura 5 років тому +53

    Is this a possible situation then?
    Let's say my level 5 Wizard somehow found a moutain that was being affected by Proctiv's Move Moutain. The level 5 Wizard uses Dispel Magic and chooses to dispel the Proctiv's Move Moutain. He passes the save to do it, and is in the spell range.
    A 5th level wizard just collapsed a moutain.

    • @Jonsoner
      @Jonsoner 5 років тому +41

      My guess is that your wizard would have to cast the dispel magic ON the orb thingie that keeps the mountain floating, and then you would have to pass a contested check to dispel it (roll + spellcasting ability > atleast 20 to affect it), besides, as a GM I would put extra restrictions (a lvl 3 spell shouldn't be able to tickle the apex of magic of a lvl 10 spell), so I would argue that you will need to cast a lvl 8 antimagic field to make the floating mountain START losing it's floating capabilities (starts floating down after a day or two) or somehow physically break the thing and that would probably blow you up along with a quarter of the mountain.
      Also, let's not forget how wizards love trapping their towers. One can only assume what kind of nasties would the traps that lead to the literal beating floating heart of a mayor magical civilization would entail.
      TL;DR: cute thougth but the mountain was also enchanted to auto-cast counterspell at 9th lvl if you target it because they are lvl 30 wizards man.

    • @tobimakkura
      @tobimakkura 5 років тому +7

      @@Jonsoner Ooooh, that's a smart idea to connect it to the mythraler thingy.
      That TLDR version was also fair XD.

    • @charlestaylor8344
      @charlestaylor8344 5 років тому +10

      I would imagine that they are artefacts so probably couldnt be dispelled so easily. I mean, it took magic not existing for their floating cities to fall. Otherwise I'm sure some chaotic bastard would have just tried dispelling it at some point. Then again, if you're the DM it's whatever you say it is.

    • @acancaacanca926
      @acancaacanca926 5 років тому +1

      @@charlestaylor8344 Im not really a player so please correct me but isnt the entire point of nat 20 in non social situations is that the action bypasses any and all armor, ward etc.? Or does it only apply in combat situations?

    • @sir_slimestone3797
      @sir_slimestone3797 5 років тому +10

      @@acancaacanca926 Depends on the DM, I personally would rule that the restrictions are so high compared to the spell you're using that a Nat 20 would still fail and as such I wouldn't even have the players roll, I'd just describe as they cast dispell magic and how it has absolutely no effect on the enchantments in place. Than a magical trap would trigger and massive battle would start as elementals are summoned, golems are activated, 9th level combat spells are unleashed, etc.

  • @diablofdb
    @diablofdb 5 років тому +1

    Man I swear, everytime I'm watching a video on youtube I get bored after 3-4 minutes. But your videos they are soooooo good, 18 minutes was just too short.

  • @guiinternauta3356
    @guiinternauta3356 5 років тому +1

    Wow, my DM has alredy taugh about that to me but i've never realized how awsome this is.
    Surely, when i finish building my homebrew world I will add a history like that to show why there are no 10th level spells or higher

  • @engineeringtehmetals
    @engineeringtehmetals 5 років тому +2

    Hey dude! You're really great at this stuff. I've never DM'd before 5th edition and I'm using all of the videos as lore inspirations for my own world(s) and you have covered a LOT of info I didn't know aboot. THANK YOU

  • @Markis2bi4
    @Markis2bi4 5 років тому +99

    Too bad Wizards can’t function on Wisdom, an I right?

    • @kmeanxneth
      @kmeanxneth 5 років тому +1

      Intelligence > Wisdom

    • @jaxryz_380
      @jaxryz_380 5 років тому +10

      kenneth kujala Charisma>Intelligence>Wisdom

    • @kmeanxneth
      @kmeanxneth 5 років тому +6

      @@jaxryz_380 Intelligence>Wisdom>Charisma*

    • @DrakeCaliburn
      @DrakeCaliburn 5 років тому +12

      Just sneeze on them. Constitution is always a wizard dump stat

    • @ewabrzakaa6395
      @ewabrzakaa6395 5 років тому +14

      @@DrakeCaliburn Wrong. It's strength!

  • @brothermutant7370
    @brothermutant7370 5 років тому +9

    I always heard that Magic Missile and Shield spells were commissioned by the general, not invented by him. In short, he paid for the spells to be invented.

  • @jackzx13
    @jackzx13 5 років тому +1

    So, thanks to you and your channel, I have now in total made 2 races inspired by your videos. The first was the Steel Dragon, though I feel like I still need to work on making it both weaker and more useful. And now I've made the Minnetaree variant human, who works best as a Wizard. And thanks to this video, I also got the idea to a whole Wizard Subclass that works with the race that focuses on doing unique things with your spells by combining them.

  • @jacobmarkley6943
    @jacobmarkley6943 5 років тому +2

    I would imagine that tenth level spells can be cast by groups. In the book "Elminster In Myth Drannor" some sort of weave mythal was cast by a group around Myth Drannor.

  • @shybard
    @shybard 5 років тому +1

    Spelljammer is one of my all-time favorite campaign settings. Looking forward to the next video.

  • @topogigio7031
    @topogigio7031 5 років тому

    The information in this channel is what makes the difference between a knowledgeable player and a Critical Role fan.
    I highly recommend any DM or DM-in-training watch these videos like it's a university seminar. After a few weeks you'll be spouting the rules of The Ordning by memory

  • @REAPER_VAGABOND
    @REAPER_VAGABOND 5 років тому +4

    I absolutely adore your videos, so much time, thought, and planning go into every single video that you produce and I am so impressed, keep up the amazing work!

  • @michaelgoldberg4000
    @michaelgoldberg4000 5 років тому +1

    cant wait to the next video
    thx again MrRhexx!
    (the positive and negative planes still exist. look closely under the lower planes and above the upper planes on the 5e wheel cosmology.)

  • @GwenHend1
    @GwenHend1 5 років тому +1

    Great video. Do wish you had also covered the level 10 spells out of 2e Dark Sun, but given this whole video was more based around the Forgotten Realms, that makes sense.

  • @lorensoth4365
    @lorensoth4365 5 років тому

    In retropsect you need to look at the history of the Dungeons and Dragons worlds as a whole. This first began in 2E and ended in 4E, where there was an explanation to why there were new Editions. Officially 2E began as a result of the Time of Troubles (Forgotten Realms), 3E began as a result of Vecna (Ravenloft/Planescape/Greyhawk) when he entered Sigil, 4E was a result of the Sundering (Forgotten Realms), and if you want 5E was the return of Mystra (Forgotten Realms). 1E supposed was a result of the Greyhawk Wars/St. Cuthbert banishing of the Demons (Greyhawk), and D&D was Wrath of the Immortals (Mystara). Each of these events had repercussions that echoes across the multiverse, but the stipulation on magic varies from wold to world and from deity to deity. 10th-16th level spells are possible...

  • @Skipston55
    @Skipston55 5 років тому +71

    The idea of a deity for magic always annoyed me. Every other god has their clerics that represented their power on the material plane, but here's a singular deity who defines magic itself. Feels wrong is all. Especially with how often she gets murdered.

    • @sanddry738
      @sanddry738 5 років тому +19

      Yeah that’s bugged me too and also the fact that she doesn’t control ALL magic. Just the FR setting as other settings have their own forces like Mokslk (butchered that for sure) for Greyhawk. A being or force that controlled all magic would probably be at least Overgod level. Not a single goddess who gets destroyed every other era

    • @Nyrufa
      @Nyrufa 4 роки тому +10

      @@sanddry738 The Overgod is just an allegory for the Dungeon Master. He doesn't even grant spells to his worshipers, nor interact with them on any personal level. He's too busy overseeing the multiverse as a whole to bother with the petty concerns on a single apocalypse level threat.

    • @Darkwizzrobe
      @Darkwizzrobe 4 роки тому

      @Warlok I like what mask of the betrayer did with it.

    • @Kainpound
      @Kainpound 3 роки тому

      @@Darkwizzrobe I agree with Warlok, the wall of the faithless is a dumb idea. Even if I don't worship the gods, there's literally 100 places my soul would end up due to Alignment. Beyond the fact that some gods will let non-Followers enter their lands not based on faith, but because that particular person basically belongs there. They just never said a prayer.

    • @haku8135
      @haku8135 2 роки тому

      @@Kainpound You have forgotten the fact the Gods are basically all powerful children.
      They kept fucking up because they couldn't stop fighting each other for power until their almighty daddy slapped them like 3 times, before putting a child proof gate over the universe and taking away their toys if they stopped playing with them responsibly.

  • @maxgeckos
    @maxgeckos 5 років тому +2

    Love the lore, using it in the current campaign of mine and needed some material! Much thanks!!!

  • @danielremus1811
    @danielremus1811 5 років тому +2

    The Negative Energy Plane still exists in 5e, it is referenced in the Nightwalker description in Mordenkainen’s Tome of Foes

    • @haku8135
      @haku8135 2 роки тому

      Yeah, if you look in the PHB in Appendix C: The Planes of Existence - Beyond the Material
      You'll find a snazzy map of the planes and if you look VERY closely because it is genuinely very hard to see, you'll find at the very bottom just above this kinda random brownish line covering the bottom half of the map, the words "Negative Plane" are there, and "Positive Plane" is similarly at the top half of the map.
      That being said, I couldn't find ANY detailed information on either of these planes in literally ANY 5E books that I own, and I own a fair few.
      The Nightwalker has the MOST information, and it basically just says "The Negative Plane is fucked up, nothing living can exist there. Also you can just kinda end up there if you're dicking about in the Shadowfell."
      There's NOTHING written about it in the guides literally detailing every other plane so DMs can run adventures in them. There's NOTHING but a tiny little blurb acknowledging they exist.
      Yeah all that considered, not surprised MrRhexx thought they ditched the plane. They almost have honestly, it's more like a Nightwalker dispenser now. You can't really go there unless you write EVERYTHING about what's IN there.
      I mean, which I would totally DO, but.... that's not the point.

  • @stephhanley3167
    @stephhanley3167 5 років тому +1

    Thank you for doing these videos. Your lore research and video essays are amazing, and thorough.

  • @ZeliousSigma
    @ZeliousSigma 3 роки тому +1

    Dnd 3.5's Epic Level Handbook has rules for creating your own 10th level spells with Seeds and Spell craft Check Difficulties.

  • @taa347
    @taa347 5 років тому +1

    I only ever play wizards and the idea of casting these ludicrously powerful spells is often the driving force for my characters. Ive never done it, but someday I'll manage it

  • @shaggy7327
    @shaggy7327 3 роки тому +1

    I had a DM back in the day who would use Proctivs Move Mountain to eliminate "bothersome" players. Once he'd imbibed enough and you annoyed him, he say saving throw. You could end up with a mountain on your head.

  • @PartigradeCannon
    @PartigradeCannon 5 років тому

    In one of our campaigns, we had a Netherese wizard who had survived the Fall of Netheril as a Shade.
    What was amusing was that I was a Elan Psionicist from Jhamdath, so I would frequently refer to this ~2000 year old archmage as a young whippersnapper.

  • @Divinemakyr
    @Divinemakyr 5 років тому +2

    Wednesday afternoon, southern Canada, no school tomorrow; a fresh breakfast sandwich and a big cup of Sprite, AND Mr. Rhexx just uploaded? Sounds perfect.

  • @Fearnil
    @Fearnil 3 роки тому

    Awesome video; I like that you did one of 10th level spells, because people always jump to Karsus' Avatar (or at least, create Mythalar). As to Ioulaum's Longevity, I think it was given stats as an Epic Spell (Which, yeah, not exactly what you're looking for but it's probably mechanically identical) in Lost Empires of Faerun. I usually pronounce his name as EE-oo-lah-oom, with the stress on lah, but I am not sure if that's the correct pronunciation.

  • @yappingdog2759
    @yappingdog2759 5 років тому +1

    First off, I would like to thank you for your efforts to bring obscure dnd lore to the dnd community. Your work on this channel is incredibly helpful for Dungeon Masters like me.
    Second, I want to thank you personally for this episode as I have a great intrest in the 10 level and above spells. I'm always looking for obscure and lost magic. Where did you find these gems ?
    Please continue with your good work.

  • @joshuacherry9113
    @joshuacherry9113 5 років тому

    Don't forget the glory that was True Dweomers, the 10th level spell equivalent from the DM's Option: High Level Campaigns accessory. One of my campaign worlds was ripped in half by a Wild Mage experimenting with this magic and triggering a Wild Surge...

  •  5 років тому +24

    What they don't tell you about Astral Dreadnoughts!

    • @rustyshackleford6650
      @rustyshackleford6650 5 років тому +2

      That they inspired DOOM's Cacodemon.

    • @juraj1998
      @juraj1998 5 років тому +2

      @No Chance Without Pasta I understood that reference.

    • @bitter-bit
      @bitter-bit 5 років тому

      @@juraj1998 me too

  • @shadowhenge7118
    @shadowhenge7118 5 років тому +1

    I still have all the original spelljammer stuff from 2nd edition. When you mentioned it i swooned. :))))

  • @PureFascinationFilms
    @PureFascinationFilms 2 роки тому

    Thank you, it’s crazy to hear about some of these spells and thinking of a character or group using one of them

  • @Wolfphototech
    @Wolfphototech 4 роки тому +1

    *Please do more of this .*
    *I want to know everything about Magic spells and Magic items .*

  • @vigilantsycamore8750
    @vigilantsycamore8750 5 років тому

    Ooh, the part about Netheril is giving me worldbuilding ideas for the Kardhillain Empire, an ancient elf empire in a homebrew setting I'm working on that would combine standard D&D stuff with Slavic myth. The Kardhillain Empire is very much on the D&D influenced side since they worshipped the Seldarine
    They were a massive empire at the time, but ultimately collapsed due to dragon attacks, invasion by drow in revenge for the Drow Exile, civil war, mage rebellions, that kind of thing

  • @snupietherat6814
    @snupietherat6814 5 років тому +2

    although I've never personally played DnD, I do have an interest in fantasy worlds as well as I have a cousin who's played a little and watched a lot of the rollplay series (sorry, I do not know the dungeon master's youtube name). I must say I love the fact that DnD has so much lore incorporated and I really wished I had a group close to me that I could play with (I just can't get into the idea of playing over skype or discord, because of the fact that it feels less personal and therefore less genuine, if you catch my drift). I'd really love a semi-small group of friends interested in joining an adventure with me once or twice a week, to just play a campaign or player-made scenario when I need an escape from my boring reality.
    I genuinly feel like I'm paddiing my free-time with games, that I get tired of fast (the exceptions being, dark souls 1, Nioh and several main series(and some spin-offs) of pokemon games which I've loved since the age of three, when my cousins showed me pokemon stadium 1 and 2). in a DnD campaign I'd likely opt for something along the lines of an undead healer or undead support/tank and I would love to feel appretiated by my teammates for the help I've given in a fight.
    (and without much knowledge of the DnD world, other than what I've heard from my cousin and your youtube videos of what the monster manual doesn't tell you) I feel like I'd be right at home in a world filled with a plethora of imagined personalities, where a gang of people tries to be what they are usually not, by trying to convince their teammates that they truly are what they say they are saying they are (according to their charcter sheets).
    (thank you for reading and I apologize for any bad english mixed in with my statements. pleaso tell me if you do not undertsand parts or sections of my writing and I'll fix as good as I can)

  • @shamusfarmer
    @shamusfarmer 5 років тому

    I haven't even watched the video yet and I already love it! I wish there was more said about 10th+ level spells but there seems to be almost nothing.

  • @antauron13
    @antauron13 3 роки тому

    This video is not on the playlist. Just telling you in case it was overlooked. Thank you for the great work! Love these videos!

  • @ChrisStephens94
    @ChrisStephens94 5 років тому +1

    Super interesting video. Lots of stuff to help add flavor to 'modern' stories in DND. Also creepy as hell that Ioulaum is still alive.

  • @Nyrufa
    @Nyrufa 4 роки тому +2

    D&D Mystra: I hereby forbid the casting of spells beyond 9th level by any and all mortals!
    Pathfinder Nethys: Oh come on! Just because one guy screwed up, that's no reason to punish the whole multiverse!

  • @ImSubbedToMyself
    @ImSubbedToMyself 2 роки тому +1

    Rhexx: ...and he was never seen again. His fate remains a mystery to this day
    Me: I cast legend lore

  • @sweetmorgan3545
    @sweetmorgan3545 5 років тому

    I remember a post (on tumblr?) about a gm who in playing a prequel one-shot accidentally described a mountain, which didn't exist in the main campaign. Players got hooked on what happened to this mountain, and gm didn't have a heart to confess a mistake, and needed an advice. Now, Proctiv got you covered, the unknown gm from few years ago.

  • @Damnationization
    @Damnationization 3 роки тому +3

    But they didn't invent Acid Arrow or what we call Melf's acid arrow. This was created by a player character ran by Luke Gygax. Son of Gary Gygax inventor of D&D.

  • @melchiordrana5751
    @melchiordrana5751 5 років тому +1

    Did some minor research and no Mystra did not stop people from casting 10th to 12th level spells . Secrets of the magister directly stated that she changed how to cast them. Secrets of the Magister page 91.

  • @williamknox6648
    @williamknox6648 9 місяців тому

    Cuz of you Mr Rhexx my campaign has the Shadow Wizard Money Gang and the leader is trying to pull off some impossible magic

  • @trenchgaming2166
    @trenchgaming2166 5 років тому

    I don't know much about d@d except from your videos and I must say you do a great job of adding people to it with the lore and creatures videos

  • @Bofrab
    @Bofrab 5 років тому +6

    If the 12th level spell messed them up this much imagine what the Spell Plague would have done to them.

  • @aaron6807
    @aaron6807 5 років тому +2

    Going home for my birthday after being in college for 2 months for and seeing a new Rhexx video about DnD
    What a great day

  • @DeathyVA
    @DeathyVA 5 років тому

    an other thing you can do as a work around is actually using Wish - and with a DM acting as the Magic god, you can be granted such power , but If you have role over story which is legal, which is why you can have character from old story re appear in newCampg/homebrews - make a family/culture/faith around something and have a passing down of the torch to resharp the game completely.
    For Wish to be able to talk to Mystra Once a day, With that you can get the DM you explain the limit of what your PC is limited to, and if you were to get her to approve a spell made by Wish, you are having your sacrificial object along with your level. With this you can make your own City, Magical object and etc as long your rolls favor you. Not only that, you legit have bypassed the common thread with help and even had help from The Goddess Her self, so you'll most likely get you're desire result, as I said you can ask her to aide you in that higher tier when you cast Wish. Remember you have to be honest with the DM when you talk to the Goddess cause if she agree with what you cast,or even gain her trust, can be a mortal that can unlock 10th level spells, so you can beabout the Avatar and even remove someone spell casting with her on your side.
    Now you might ask why once a day? Cause you shouldn't be greedy, getting the ability to talk to her is by far the greatest feat any mage can do now. Not only that, you then have maybe the best teacher of magic to learn all types of magic, so your PC, will become maybe the most special of all mages.
    Learning the limits from your DM/Mystra also means you can learn and master 10th level spells, or even make weaker version of the original ones, Cause while she did "cap" all magic user, there is no rule or anything stating you can't be granted those as feat or earn the right to cast them, which is why those spell still carry over.
    I'm Sorry for any DM that might have player do this now to them, but this is a thing most over looked.
    The rule we're using follows.
    You might be able to achieve something beyond the scope of the above examples. State your wish to the GM as precisely as possible. The GM has great latitude in ruling what occurs in such an instance; the greater the wish, the greater the likelihood that something goes wrong. This spell might simply fail, the effect you desire might only be partly achieved, or you might suffer some unforeseen consequence as a result of how you worded the wish. For example, wishing that a villain were dead might propel you forward in time to a period when that villain is no longer alive, effectively removing you from the game. Similarly, wishing for a legendary magic item or artifact might instantly transport you to the presence of the item’s current owner.
    This is why I wordit like I did and there is no rule saying you can't do such things. Learning the limits and what your DM would allow, means you can Alter the world in a legit normal story, or Home Brew and see what happens from Story after Story. Who knows..... If you're at the end of the Story of the character, nothing to lose and can Impact the games further ahead.

  • @nbRoon
    @nbRoon 5 років тому +1

    Honestly you could make an hour long video about that old human empire and I'd probably listen to it at least once a day

  • @tarrker
    @tarrker 5 років тому

    An excellent video, as usual. Only thing I would add is that Ioulaum's name starts with an i and not an L. So it's most likely pronounced Eeee-o-Lawm or similarly. But that's pretty minor. Can't wait to hear you talk about Spelljamming. The campaign my friends and I created back in the 90's that I've been running ever since is set in Spelljammer. The core home of the "Good Guys" in our setting is, ironically, inspired by Netheril. :)

  • @shadowshibe5962
    @shadowshibe5962 2 роки тому +2

    I feel like a single wish spell can actually replicate any of these spell effects if you do it well enough

  • @AxenPrim
    @AxenPrim 5 років тому +1

    I would like to hear more history about Dungeons & Dragons. I would also, like to have a video on Shadow dragons as well.

  • @813WolfShadow
    @813WolfShadow 5 років тому +1

    This was an awesome video. Looking forward to hearing your next two on this topic. Especially the spelljammer part.
    Anyways, thanks! Looking forward to more! Subscribed

  • @Nezmirthafin
    @Nezmirthafin 5 років тому

    screen cap is for DDO, a dungeons and dragons MMO set in the eberron campaign setting.

  • @HMan12345
    @HMan12345 5 років тому +11

    7:07
    “Humming a few bars of a song”
    So that means, there is a possibility that a Weave Mythal was set up with an activation code where you have to sing The Lick

  • @kyledotson2636
    @kyledotson2636 5 років тому +1

    Given the general power level of the other 9th level spells in 5th edition, Meteor Swarm may as well be 10th level. It is by a landslide the greatest available spell in 5e (currently).

  • @That80sGuy1972
    @That80sGuy1972 5 років тому

    I have 10th level spells in my campaigns. I don't have a divine power to stop them from being done.
    I have many 10th level spells available to my players in all the campaigns I have run. 10th level spells in my campaign world (universe) have no upper limit. A 10th level spell is any spell that is not a Quest spell that can do more than a 9th level spell. Other than the caster being able to cast the spell, the spell has other requirements to cast it and-or costs for casting it. The 10th level spells I added were: Wish II (AKA Gods' Wish, Deathwish, Minor Omnipotence, Warp Reality, etc), Atomic Blast, Magic Blast, Invincibility, Revive/Drain Land, Ultimate Restoration/Destruction, Exile, Ultimate Replay, Shield of Utopia and Privacy, Reduce World's Top Magic, Land of the Undead, Starfleet, Summon National Weather, Shift Planetary Climate, Land Refresh, Terraform, Pseudo Heaven/Hell (an alteration to the Exile spell), Mind Warp (ranging from a permanent charm of a group from a single caster to a culture charmed to believe a reality that the charmer pushes if multiple casters are involved). The Mind Warp spell does not get a save beyond the first. After that, only logic and reason can argue against the charm that is akin to brainwashing in how it works.
    The Atomic Blast spell was generally a scroll spell my players used. They used it twice before deciding it was a bad spell to use and they did not even learn why it would be a bad spell to cast as a wizard. Use a scroll to cast Atomic Blast, you vanish until the blast is over and you re-appear as someone immune to the effects for a while. At ground zero, a base level 20 castor of Atomic Blast would have a 320d6 in damage with a save vs. disintegration or be obliterated. Going to 0 HP in that would also obliterate you, turn you to ash. What was the saving grace? 2nd Ed has a rule that I stuck to. Any attack that is above 20 dice defaults to 20 dice. Also, any "+" value that is above +25 defaults to +25. I always applied the rules to both sides. I cannot count how many times players griped about that and then immediately decided against my removing those limits once I told them how often their party was not obliterated just because of those rules.
    The Atomic Blast spell (level 10) in its base rules, obliterates everything at ground zero and obliterates all in its wake that it can do so. The caster teleports to the future when the spell's effects are done. Cast the spell on an individual directly, save at -1 per spellcaster level above the target's highest level or have twice the damage done applied to the target with a bigger mushroom cloud. The effect is unchanged.
    The Exile spell usually ends all targets that fail the save against it. It spawns a demi-plane of an instantaneously fast timeline. Exile in this way normally obliterates its target. Succeeding a Saving Throw might not say you survived The Exile but your descendants did.
    I could go one but you get the idea.

  • @Terrivian_Vess
    @Terrivian_Vess 5 років тому +2

    You mentioned DDO!
    Give this man a medal!

  • @pomponioval
    @pomponioval 5 років тому

    Outstanding work Mr. Rhexx. Hat's off to you!

  • @radoslavakov4693
    @radoslavakov4693 5 років тому

    In terms of Marvin's earth fast I'm pretty sure Casting time:9 is the initiative modifier for the spell. If I remember correctly the book is running on 2e and initiative was a d10+modifier. Minutes would be written in the casting time as rounds and tens of minutes as turns. So the spell, if I remember correctly, would have a cast time of a minute since rounds lasted a minute. Could be wrong though

  • @thecheese1120
    @thecheese1120 5 років тому +2

    Magic is my favorite part of dnd because of how cool the high level spells can make your character seem

    • @DGneoseeker1
      @DGneoseeker1 5 років тому

      Black blade of disaster is all you need.
      Source: My Wizard cast that and it instantly executed Mephistopheles.

    • @thecheese1120
      @thecheese1120 5 років тому

      DGneoseeker1 well that’s one way to master magic

    • @thecheese1120
      @thecheese1120 5 років тому

      Michael Johnson I’m imagining a really bad band trying to make a song with a bunch of trash cans and banana peels

  • @nexus1g
    @nexus1g 2 роки тому

    Just to help you out since I didn't see anyone else comment on this: Geas is pronounced "gesh" with a hard G and a short E sound. It's from Irish folklore.

  • @db-jugg3r
    @db-jugg3r 5 років тому

    Spelljamming, that reminds me of the old days .. :D
    if you want crazy 8 to 12 level spells, check out the dark sun setting :)

  • @justnick7691
    @justnick7691 5 років тому

    If you play Neverwinter Nights 1 Shadows of the Undrentide you are taken to one of these floating cities that was buried under the sand and get to learn very in depth lore. Their libraries literally have Lichdom Manuals and was a common practice, they all instantly died though when magic was turned off for a few moments and ontop of that caused the floating cities to crash into the planet.

    • @justnick7691
      @justnick7691 5 років тому

      Just finished the video the Lich using Ioulam's Longevity would've died without magic sustaining his life.

  • @nobodie9996
    @nobodie9996 5 років тому

    Great video as usual! Your video on Asmodeus is still one of my favorite UA-cam videos ever, and I live on UA-cam lol

  • @thewolfstu
    @thewolfstu 5 років тому +1

    Ya' know, a similar version of spell to create volcano exists in the world of Jirolnoka, but it is greatly weaker than that for it only opened a small fissure of lava.