Yo, FD must be rubbing off on Vernon. A straighten is a straighten, don't start BS the rules like everyone else. The fact that you guys are so strict is why we watch. Don't be messing around with this FD ignorance guys for real. 2:52:35
I was beyond confused with this decision. Makes no sense to not call it a 0. There no way it was chaseable with the amount of commitment and throttle needed to be in that zone and would have resulted in a collision.
It looks way worse in the slow mo.. he did straighten (as in lessened the angle) but judges view was that the car didn't stop sliding fully so not a 0. So he was heavily deducted for it but scored a run.. I haven't seen every angle (and neither have you) so whether thats 100% of the reason or if there is some politics is just guesswork / falling on one side of a split hair.. It didn't affect anything either way as he didn't qualify.
No hyperbole this is the best professional drifting series out there. It's a shame ferropolis isn't a round but I understand the organisers why they took that decision.
@@rthompson2193 basically the organisers of Iron Drift King wanted a more chilled atmosphere for their festival and DMEC is a very full on championship. IDK at Ferropolis will still take place this year though I'm not sure about broadcasting.
It is very interesting to see some guys having pushed forward, like Conor (and generally the Irish guys) is favored all the time by the judges, also Piotr has some very very questionable decisions (like here...not 0 for straightening, also last year in Poland they let him go with a wheel clearly not in place). He is my favorite, and I feel sorry not seeing him in the mix, but those decisions puts a lot of questions about judges impartiality. Anyway, congrats to Lauri, a very humble guy, he is not showing off, but at the end of the season, he will surely be the champion, due to his great consistency.
I'm Irish, and I'm not biased over it, but you may think I am. However I genuinely don't think the judges are partial to Irish drivers. Sure they love Connor and James but that's because they're genuinely huge names in drifting overall. Sometimes they just outperform to the point where it seems like favouritism
Na it was for a split second and he was definetly on the fastest run. Anyway judges might have rewarded for him going fast and at 26th the chances of him actualy making it to 32 was super low. Also last year it wasnt his fault when they took him out that supposely he hit the lead car making him spin out. I can assure you irish are defiently in a bit of advantage because of the irish judge.
@@kellysrockz Well, as an outsider it is very visible that Irish judge slightly put in advantage some Irish drivers, especially Conor and Deane. Don't get me wrong, they are still the best judges in the business, and the Irish guys are very good. I don't believe that Conor is not a great champion, but last year in Poland, there was some OMTs that was very questionable with him. If you are objective, you see that some competitors have advantages before others, just watch the Irish and Finn battles, for the better example.
There have been many instances where the verdict in pairs riding fell on Shanahanwóe at a time when even the commentators who had eaten their teeth on drifting were greatly surprised.... It's probably also unfortunate that the most evenly matched duels are usually with Poles and unjustifiably many times they pass and in the justification we hear that they made some more mistakes... No justification since everyone on the track could see who drove better.... But you know, you have to make someone the best... And from today's qualifiers 0 for "Więck" however justified, no sense that they gave him points when he had no chance to advance anyway...
@@fastmax848 Of course, having a judge from the same country will push a slight advantage but that's the same for any sport. I can definitely see why it seems as such though. Speaking of judging that Hartman Nilsen final decision still has me shaking my head tbh
I wonder why he got so few points for the first run. In fact, he hit the wall, but it did not affect his driving line and he passed all zones completely. Others drove straight or drove at a terribly small angle and received over 70 points. Funny.
@@jasonbirch1182 because they knew that he would be out regardless. They gave him a 70 at a point when the cutoff was much higher. It was basically just a pity score because the rest of the run had been so good, because they knew he was out of top 32.
@@Amateurstrongman uh. So what about anyone that got knocked down by that? How would they know they wouldn't shaft someone who actually completed a qualifying run? Poor judging. I'm not usually critical of DMEC judges but that was bad.
@@jasonbirch1182 how would he knock anyone down by scoring a 70? If they scored higher than a 70 they wouldn't be knocked down. If they were knocked down because thet were lower than him, they were already out lol. By the time they scored Piotr's run the cutoff was in the 80s dude.
@@Amateurstrongman uh. No it wasn't at all. He was on camera when he got knocked out, then the girl went to tell to him and they lost the feed. Doesn't matter anyway. He had a 66.x so everyone above that got knocked down a position by a bullshit score.
Drift Masters sh*ts all over FD. Not only in driving - but also in tracks, cars, and announcing. Listening to the announcers of these events is enjoyable - whereas listening to Jarod sputter and vomit through an FD event is straight up ear-herpes. Well done all around Drift Masters!
It was a hell of a run but I think the reason he got "only" 96 is that he run kinda inside those walls. Perfect wall run is that u just scrape some paint on the wall.
I know everyone else is saying it but I have to acknowledge as well. Drift Masters is a breath of fresh air compared to FD USA. The poor judging and the inconsistency and rule changes is sickening. Good thing we Americans can always come watch DMEC.
dudes..... we're halfway through qualifying and like 5 people have hit that barrier sticking out in clip one. WTF, fix it already, who tf doesn't see this as a problem?
Erm, you mean the barrier that defines the edge of the track which is there to protect people? If there was an issue with barriers sticking out and ruining cars/runs, you can be sure the drivers would be talking about it and none of them are.. Alos, not an outer clip, a clip is 1 point you have to reach, it's outer zone 1, which is a box around the edge of the track they have to keep their back wheels in.. but go too far and you're in the wall.. (or off track and 2 wheels is a 0, hit the wall hard enough to straighten it's a 0)
Quite a few people had problems because of the slippery track, but only the tantruming Jack kid made the whole organization stop. The jury should intervene in that man's disrespectful behavior, when it's not the others' fault that the hands and the car are not up to the level of the others :) When he lost to the future champion in Hungary, he told him to go home because he was so slow, even though the champion was faster than him and the whole the fastest of the bunch :)
"A car is not designed to do this" ...guess the announcer doesn't understand these cars are built purposely for drifting. They are designed and tested for drifting buddy...stop sounding so stuoid
@@olajimimark idk.. we are watching nothing but modified cars drifting, why would he bring up stock cars drifting when it has nothing to do with the event. I thought it was a very weird thing for him to say. It's like an f1 commentator saying cars are not designed to take corners this fast during a race. Either way it would be more impressive for him to talk about how the engineers have worked on the cars to make them more suited to drifting, and that stock cars can drift insanely well, just at slower speeds
@@liam4686He's talking about cars generally.. even drift cars don't want to do some of the things these guys are doing with them. These cars are around 1000hp, with sticky tyres and are configured for grip.. they are more like drag cars in their rear suspension setup. "Dedicated drift car" doesn't mean easy to drive or setup to slide around easily.. why else do they throw the cars in so hard if they were? Yes hydro and big angle kit but to keep the cars out in the zones while not correcting angle or slowing too much or many other tools people use to slide cars around being penalised in competition where people are trying to go as fast as they can (while sticking to what the judges are looking for) Cars are not designed to be driven on full power, sideways, while braking and kicking the clutch.. These cars have been modified to handle it, but the cars weren't designed for it.
HEY!!! you screwed up the next round by running the first part of the qualification in conditions that were in no way competitive. I hope you are aware of this and you take all the wrecked bodykits of the best drifters in the world on yourselves. What happened in the first part of the qualifying was criminal... and it was enough to postpone it for an hour where the conditions had already improved significantly - it was evident from the last 2-3 drivers in the first runs. It's hard to count how many drivers ended up on the bandaus because you wanted to organise drifts on the ice.... You could always organise a quali on Saturday morning, I think you would find time for that and it would be more of a sporting event and not a lottery game. You have the best drifters in the world and zero respect for them and their cars.... Good luck to those who managed to do well in one run in tomorrow's competition. I hope it will be more like a competition than a lottery...
@@marcin6904 let's break down the many many reasons why DMEC or FD don't just "postpone" when there is rain. 1) good drifters have practice in the rain and know how to put down a scored run in wet conditions. Part of drifting at this level is that it will be wet sometimes and if you are truly the best, you will know how to handle it. This is why at FD Atlanta in 2019 or Long Beach this year you still got chaseable, competent runs despite the standing water. Because the very best can handle it. Why should they lower the standard for worse drivers? 2) the staff at the track are just employees. They are scheduled for a set amount of time. If they postpone, all of those employees manning the gates or concessions or working the recovery vehicles, cleanup, etc. all have to work longer as well. They are humans, with lives and with a right to fair work conditions. They aren't machines. 3) they are live on Redbull TV. Redbull probably spends a lot of money on what is live when and what gets promoted at what time and making sure things don't conflict too much. If they postpone for a couple hours, they're now potentially in something else's livestream time, creating competition and drawing views away. Sponsors are in it for that viewership and that timeslot. They want their brands promoted to a certain audience at a certain time. G2A or Strom or whoever wouldn't be happy if the livestream got half the views because it ran behind and everyone decided to watch MotoGP instead or something. 4) people paid to be in attendance. They do not want to be their at midnight because qualifying got postponed over and over. They have kids. Jobs. Homes to get back to. Imagine paying for a ticket and then having to take your kids home without seeing any qualifying. You'd be pretty upset. Also, those bodypanels are literally just fiberglass/carbon fiber/kevlar/whatever. They aren't actual brand name boujie body kits like you'd see on a show car. They're cheap(in comparison) replicas literally meant to be torn off and put back on repeatedly.
@@Amateurstrongman everything you are saying here is true for other sports as well, where weather delays happens all the time. And forget about the bodywork getting wrecked, for me the problem is that these conditions slows down the pace a lot and creates an unfair advantage for drivers starting when it is dryer.
Adam LZ 1st 42:41, 2nd 2:13:27
Connor Shanahan 1st 1:13:24, 2nd 2:44:15, Qual Showdown 3:35:48
Piotr Wiecek 1st1:18:30 , 2nd 2:49:33
James Deane 1st 1:41:44, 2nd 3:18:15
U the best!
Doing the lords work
Absolute hero!
Absolute legend
bro where is my boy ryusei akiba!? his 2nd entry screams japanese like how it should be
Yo, FD must be rubbing off on Vernon. A straighten is a straighten, don't start BS the rules like everyone else. The fact that you guys are so strict is why we watch. Don't be messing around with this FD ignorance guys for real. 2:52:35
UP
I was beyond confused with this decision. Makes no sense to not call it a 0. There no way it was chaseable with the amount of commitment and throttle needed to be in that zone and would have resulted in a collision.
It looks way worse in the slow mo.. he did straighten (as in lessened the angle) but judges view was that the car didn't stop sliding fully so not a 0. So he was heavily deducted for it but scored a run..
I haven't seen every angle (and neither have you) so whether thats 100% of the reason or if there is some politics is just guesswork / falling on one side of a split hair..
It didn't affect anything either way as he didn't qualify.
K.Pesur 1st - 1:44:55, second 3:22:04
O.Randalu 1st 1:31:35, second 3:05:50
No hyperbole this is the best professional drifting series out there. It's a shame ferropolis isn't a round but I understand the organisers why they took that decision.
I would have gone there 100000%
Why did they decide to cancel Ferropolis? Sick track
@@rthompson2193 basically the organisers of Iron Drift King wanted a more chilled atmosphere for their festival and DMEC is a very full on championship. IDK at Ferropolis will still take place this year though I'm not sure about broadcasting.
Ja du hast Recht, wirklich sehr schade, vor allem war das die einzige Strecke, die ohne "riesen" Aufwand besuchbar war
Wirklich extrem schade
@@jacklb4152 A bit disappointing, it’s one of the best tracks in DMEC. Hope it’s back in calendar next season.
Drift Games Team Akiba 1st 34:00 2nd 2:06:15 Falvey 1st 1:01:48 2nd 2:35:04
Piskolty Kevin 1st run: 1:35:02 2nd run: 3:09:55
What a qualification it was. It was so cool to meet Conor and Lauri for battle in the showdown!
That wall is sent so much tail it needs it's own private website
😂😂😂😂Fax tho
It is very interesting to see some guys having pushed forward, like Conor (and generally the Irish guys) is favored all the time by the judges, also Piotr has some very very questionable decisions (like here...not 0 for straightening, also last year in Poland they let him go with a wheel clearly not in place). He is my favorite, and I feel sorry not seeing him in the mix, but those decisions puts a lot of questions about judges impartiality.
Anyway, congrats to Lauri, a very humble guy, he is not showing off, but at the end of the season, he will surely be the champion, due to his great consistency.
I'm Irish, and I'm not biased over it, but you may think I am. However I genuinely don't think the judges are partial to Irish drivers. Sure they love Connor and James but that's because they're genuinely huge names in drifting overall. Sometimes they just outperform to the point where it seems like favouritism
Na it was for a split second and he was definetly on the fastest run. Anyway judges might have rewarded for him going fast and at 26th the chances of him actualy making it to 32 was super low.
Also last year it wasnt his fault when they took him out that supposely he hit the lead car making him spin out. I can assure you irish are defiently in a bit of advantage because of the irish judge.
@@kellysrockz Well, as an outsider it is very visible that Irish judge slightly put in advantage some Irish drivers, especially Conor and Deane. Don't get me wrong, they are still the best judges in the business, and the Irish guys are very good. I don't believe that Conor is not a great champion, but last year in Poland, there was some OMTs that was very questionable with him. If you are objective, you see that some competitors have advantages before others, just watch the Irish and Finn battles, for the better example.
There have been many instances where the verdict in pairs riding fell on Shanahanwóe at a time when even the commentators who had eaten their teeth on drifting were greatly surprised.... It's probably also unfortunate that the most evenly matched duels are usually with Poles and unjustifiably many times they pass and in the justification we hear that they made some more mistakes... No justification since everyone on the track could see who drove better.... But you know, you have to make someone the best... And from today's qualifiers 0 for "Więck" however justified, no sense that they gave him points when he had no chance to advance anyway...
@@fastmax848 Of course, having a judge from the same country will push a slight advantage but that's the same for any sport. I can definitely see why it seems as such though. Speaking of judging that Hartman Nilsen final decision still has me shaking my head tbh
I don't know how they gave Piotr the score on that second run. He totally straightened.
I wonder why he got so few points for the first run. In fact, he hit the wall, but it did not affect his driving line and he passed all zones completely. Others drove straight or drove at a terribly small angle and received over 70 points. Funny.
@@jasonbirch1182 because they knew that he would be out regardless. They gave him a 70 at a point when the cutoff was much higher. It was basically just a pity score because the rest of the run had been so good, because they knew he was out of top 32.
@@Amateurstrongman uh. So what about anyone that got knocked down by that? How would they know they wouldn't shaft someone who actually completed a qualifying run? Poor judging. I'm not usually critical of DMEC judges but that was bad.
@@jasonbirch1182 how would he knock anyone down by scoring a 70? If they scored higher than a 70 they wouldn't be knocked down. If they were knocked down because thet were lower than him, they were already out lol. By the time they scored Piotr's run the cutoff was in the 80s dude.
@@Amateurstrongman uh. No it wasn't at all. He was on camera when he got knocked out, then the girl went to tell to him and they lost the feed. Doesn't matter anyway. He had a 66.x so everyone above that got knocked down a position by a bullshit score.
Damn Orjan is on fire!
The first run of heinonen is the best thing I've seen in drifting ever.
orjan so good in second Qualy....
Adam first run 42:41, second 2:13:27
Nobody give 💩 Adam Lz 😂😂
@@valtzuuu He did pretty well this round, why so much hate?
Some serious drivers in this line up! Amazing talent!
Diogo Correia “Hes full of beans ready to go”…. 😂😂
LETS GO LZ
WHO?
I am watching this all the way from Trinidad and Tobago I the Caribbean
I love this track sooo much.
Oioioioioioi Heinoneeeeen oioioioioioi Heinoneeeeen
30:00 how to turn a sedan into a hatchback
What a rollercoaster!
I think this is the second time in history that a Toyota Soarer has been competitive as a drift car, amazing to watch!
@2:44:21 that run was Shananihanagans!
Drift Masters sh*ts all over FD. Not only in driving - but also in tracks, cars, and announcing. Listening to the announcers of these events is enjoyable - whereas listening to Jarod sputter and vomit through an FD event is straight up ear-herpes. Well done all around Drift Masters!
audio and camera setup
What.
The.
Hell.
Am I watching? 🥹
The second round of qualifying was INCREDIBLE!! That was next level driving 😍
Lets gooo LZ 🎉🎉
How Orjan didn't get a 98, but Connor got a 97 is a mistery.
It was a hell of a run but I think the reason he got "only" 96 is that he run kinda inside those walls. Perfect wall run is that u just scrape some paint on the wall.
Adam lz flying on 1 wheel at one point so crazy to see in person
I know everyone else is saying it but I have to acknowledge as well. Drift Masters is a breath of fresh air compared to FD USA. The poor judging and the inconsistency and rule changes is sickening. Good thing we Americans can always come watch DMEC.
Adam LZ!
You know the conditions are bad when James Deane spins out😂
Vaikka juha sä et tykkää puhua lontoota nii me fanit arvostetaan sitä ku annat vaikka pari sanaa.
Oli kyllä varsin nolo esitys,jos hakee yleisöltä tukea jollain perkeleillä niin on parempi vaan riftailla siellä kylänraitilla jatkossa.
Hmm where you can see finals stream ? :)
Huge thankfu for video 🎉💦💦💦💦💦💦💦💦💦💦💦💦🐋💨
3:44:00
Finland isn't part of Scandinavia 😃
Nordic country.
Scandinavia instead is part of Nordic countries. (Scandinavia + Finland = Nordic)
@@BonoBronck As a Finn, I know
@@Bonfire_96You do, but most of here reading these and commenting are not Finns.
@@BonoBronckScandinavia (Sweden & Norway) + Finland + Iceland + Denmark = the Nordic countries
Where can I watch round 3?
Suomi fanit siellä hereillä
maybe think about ice blasting the track in between the sessions
The Poland Power
Vamos Diogo Correia
Lauri heinonen lauri heinonen👌👌👌
dudes..... we're halfway through qualifying and like 5 people have hit that barrier sticking out in clip one. WTF, fix it already, who tf doesn't see this as a problem?
Erm, you mean the barrier that defines the edge of the track which is there to protect people?
If there was an issue with barriers sticking out and ruining cars/runs, you can be sure the drivers would be talking about it and none of them are..
Alos, not an outer clip, a clip is 1 point you have to reach, it's outer zone 1, which is a box around the edge of the track they have to keep their back wheels in.. but go too far and you're in the wall.. (or off track and 2 wheels is a 0, hit the wall hard enough to straighten it's a 0)
3:26:25 song name?
Were is the next round ?
Drifters I have an interest in
James Deane (friend of Evenflow channel)
Teemu Peltola (mad diesel build)
Adam LZ (friend of Jimmy Oakes)
so what?
Man this track was awful in these rainy conditions eh xD
🇳🇴
My ass hurts
wat time is top 32
How are u complainers not saying anything about Duane Mckeever???
Where tf is the mckeever timestamp tho
Connor’s second run got a 97 but I there isn’t anywhere where he could do better to pick up those points.
in Poland will be the biggest like always
3:25:53 please scream more,please don't let us hear the engine,scream more I begging you,scream more.
Get real.
ΓΤΧΣ.
Quite a few people had problems because of the slippery track, but only the tantruming Jack kid made the whole organization stop. The jury should intervene in that man's disrespectful behavior, when it's not the others' fault that the hands and the car are not up to the level of the others :) When he lost to the future champion in Hungary, he told him to go home because he was so slow, even though the champion was faster than him and the whole the fastest of the bunch :)
Where the fz do I watch top 32?
@@corex72 redbull tv
on red bull tv but their junk is horrendous to use and I'm not installing their app.
Cheese
Why does almost every car have an orange string trailing behind it?
Tow strap?
Is this drifting or sideways burnout competition? :D
These days, yes.
no way you said that
Becky loves an interview with Conor doesn’t she 👀👀🤣
I'm shocked the track crew didn't fix that block hanging out on outer clip 1. it fucked up soo much stuff today and they just let it keep happening.
What are you fucking talking about? there is not "outer clip 1." there's outer zones, and inside clips. where is there a block hanging out?
If there was "a block hanging out" somewhere they had to drift, you can be sure the drivers would be shouting about it.. these things aren't cheap..
Piotr's 2nd run should have been a zero. Terrible judging...
Orjan should be near 99 run. Judges had their eyes closed I guess as they gave connor 97 and Orjan 96. Watch them b2b and you'll see
"A car is not designed to do this" ...guess the announcer doesn't understand these cars are built purposely for drifting. They are designed and tested for drifting buddy...stop sounding so stuoid
You're misunderstanding him. He's talking about the cars ship stock from the factory.....In which he's correct. Calm down.
@@olajimimark idk.. we are watching nothing but modified cars drifting, why would he bring up stock cars drifting when it has nothing to do with the event. I thought it was a very weird thing for him to say. It's like an f1 commentator saying cars are not designed to take corners this fast during a race. Either way it would be more impressive for him to talk about how the engineers have worked on the cars to make them more suited to drifting, and that stock cars can drift insanely well, just at slower speeds
@@liam4686He's talking about cars generally.. even drift cars don't want to do some of the things these guys are doing with them.
These cars are around 1000hp, with sticky tyres and are configured for grip.. they are more like drag cars in their rear suspension setup. "Dedicated drift car" doesn't mean easy to drive or setup to slide around easily.. why else do they throw the cars in so hard if they were?
Yes hydro and big angle kit but to keep the cars out in the zones while not correcting angle or slowing too much or many other tools people use to slide cars around being penalised in competition where people are trying to go as fast as they can (while sticking to what the judges are looking for)
Cars are not designed to be driven on full power, sideways, while braking and kicking the clutch..
These cars have been modified to handle it, but the cars weren't designed for it.
When the hell is top 32?!
English fella needs to go... way to opinionated and too much speculation from him.. really annoying tryin to call results and everything..
Greedy Greedy, way are you making this suck!!!!!!!!
??
HEY!!!
you screwed up the next round by running the first part of the qualification in conditions that were in no way competitive. I hope you are aware of this and you take all the wrecked bodykits of the best drifters in the world on yourselves. What happened in the first part of the qualifying was criminal... and it was enough to postpone it for an hour where the conditions had already improved significantly - it was evident from the last 2-3 drivers in the first runs. It's hard to count how many drivers ended up on the bandaus because you wanted to organise drifts on the ice.... You could always organise a quali on Saturday morning, I think you would find time for that and it would be more of a sporting event and not a lottery game. You have the best drifters in the world and zero respect for them and their cars....
Good luck to those who managed to do well in one run in tomorrow's competition. I hope it will be more like a competition than a lottery...
@@marcin6904 let's break down the many many reasons why DMEC or FD don't just "postpone" when there is rain.
1) good drifters have practice in the rain and know how to put down a scored run in wet conditions. Part of drifting at this level is that it will be wet sometimes and if you are truly the best, you will know how to handle it. This is why at FD Atlanta in 2019 or Long Beach this year you still got chaseable, competent runs despite the standing water. Because the very best can handle it. Why should they lower the standard for worse drivers?
2) the staff at the track are just employees. They are scheduled for a set amount of time. If they postpone, all of those employees manning the gates or concessions or working the recovery vehicles, cleanup, etc. all have to work longer as well. They are humans, with lives and with a right to fair work conditions. They aren't machines.
3) they are live on Redbull TV. Redbull probably spends a lot of money on what is live when and what gets promoted at what time and making sure things don't conflict too much. If they postpone for a couple hours, they're now potentially in something else's livestream time, creating competition and drawing views away. Sponsors are in it for that viewership and that timeslot. They want their brands promoted to a certain audience at a certain time. G2A or Strom or whoever wouldn't be happy if the livestream got half the views because it ran behind and everyone decided to watch MotoGP instead or something.
4) people paid to be in attendance. They do not want to be their at midnight because qualifying got postponed over and over. They have kids. Jobs. Homes to get back to. Imagine paying for a ticket and then having to take your kids home without seeing any qualifying. You'd be pretty upset.
Also, those bodypanels are literally just fiberglass/carbon fiber/kevlar/whatever. They aren't actual brand name boujie body kits like you'd see on a show car. They're cheap(in comparison) replicas literally meant to be torn off and put back on repeatedly.
Year ago they delayed the qualy in Finland due to sudden _heavy_ rain. The problem is the new asphalt in the first corner which makes it very slippery
@@Amateurstrongman everything you are saying here is true for other sports as well, where weather delays happens all the time. And forget about the bodywork getting wrecked, for me the problem is that these conditions slows down the pace a lot and creates an unfair advantage for drivers starting when it is dryer.
И это трасса DM? Приезжайте к нам, в RDS GP, хоть по нормальным трассам поездите
У мастеров дрифта уникальные трассы, это высший чемпионат.
Man we would like to, but that war thing kinda fucked up your friendship with Europe I guess