Just watched again but this time within the context of Henry vs Spencer vs Trapdoor. The Ball carbine would make an interesting add to the mix. It might jump in between the Henry and Spencer. Looks like it could be smoother to run than the Spencer, albeit slower to reload. Figure out a King's type loading gate and it could give the Henry a run. Besides all that it is good lookin'. Amazing that the casehardening colors have survived so well, no doubt its been in storage most of it's life. This is the rifle I would choose to be reproduced today. Might be an NFA item though, that barrel looks awfully short. Ian, thanks for another great video.
Along side Safety Panda, I have a cocaine-full dog and a monkey, the latter hammering strangely colored nails, two fruits, one is an yellow lemon with insomnia problems and the other is a happy strawberry, the last figure in the same thumbnail looks like a muffin with a bunch of grapes coming out of it bottom.
"dear god what's going on with my youtube suggestions box" Not just yours. Also I think that "Baby Panda Safety Tips" video is kind of a slut being on three separate channels. :D
The condition of this rifle is great. The case hardening looks solid as all hell, and the action sounds smooth and tight. Shame ammo would be hard to make for this thing.
Ian, have you ever played the 1866 mod for the original Mount and Blade? There's a lot of really cool rare weapons, including the Ball carbine. Seems like something that would interest you in the same vein as Battlefield 1.
I'm actually watching this video right now to modify all the stats for the guns in the 1866 mod to be realistic in terms of velocity, reload speed, damage, ect.
I'd love to know the history behind that magazine cut-off. If these rifle were never issued and remained in storage from 1866 to 1901, then you wouldn't think that the army would have bothered making the conversion or if they had done it you'd think they would've done it on a mass scale and every single one of these guys would've been subjected to the update. At the same time I can't really see a civilian being overly concerned with the idea of conserving ammunition for fear of having his supply lines cut off or having to bear the cost of the mass production of ammunition. It makes you wonder who added it and what their motivation was. By the way what is the history behind magazine cut-offs; when and why exactly did they come into vogue, obviously they weren't of great concern during the Civil War era but were omnipresent by the turn of the century. Was it due to the introduction of smokeless small bore ammunition or was it in practice before with black powder tube magazine rifles like the Vetterli and Mauser 1871/84?
my money is on the army selling them surplus to bannermans or something. and later in life someone wanted to single load the rifle for sharpshooting contests. or something of that nature. who knows. but its an interesting idea, knowledge of who, where, when and why they did it.
Quick question; do you have an actual high-speed camera? Or does your standard camera have a high-speed function? I really enjoy the super slow-mo shots of you firing the guns, and I was just curious how many frames per second the camera is running for those slow-mo shots. Thanks!
Forgotten Weapons wow that is fast! Keep up the great work! You're hands down my favorite gun channel, I always watch your videos as soon as they come out every day!
I thought that the military preferred the spencer because it was more rugged and durable. They didn't care that the Henry was faster if it was more likely to jam from dirt or a bent magazine
I think that is part of UA-cam's drive to be family friendly. Guns are evil! EVIL! So let us, your Google overlords, suggest family-friendly content. I, for one, welcome my new Google Overlords and thank them for their mind-controlling interference.
Seems it would not offer any advantage over the Spencer they already had in service, other then perhaps being better looking. I would suspect slower reloads with this one.
This may seem like i stupid question but if youtube has demonetized all non laughable ( not literally ) content , why do i still keep getting unskipable french adds?
phileas007 If they were full auto laserguns that needed reloading every 10k rounds, had no recoil, and put the impact of a .50 bmg to shame? No, they're not that smart.
Right away to the whole force? Of course not, but I can see a few dozens given to some folks to see how they would perform in the field. IMHO, in any prolonged conflict, technologically superior side has the advantage.
Designed by a future watch maker family and forebearers of the 5 Ball brothers that purchased, upgraded and founded Ball Mason Jars and also purchased Secretary and Teacher Schools, creating, founding and donating the now, Ball State University??? Yes! That's part of my family genealogy.
Dude it's like 5 am and it said this video was uploaded 20 minutes ago and there is already like 740 views. dear God people need sleep. I proly should sleep too
A beautiful well made gun and nobody is ever going to fully load and fire it. This gun is not amiable to being being used to fire center fire ammunition. Dixie Gun Works once had a device that you could use to fire one round at a time but even it might damage the hammer.
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Louis L'amour had this rifle in a story called "West Is Where the Heart Is." He was also fond of Walch 12-shooters.
I have one of these, didn't know much about it. Thanks for the history lesson Ian.
Hang onto it!
@@SStupendous no! Sell it to me for 12 cents!
Very interesting. I did not know these existed. Love learning something new.
As someone from Massachusetts, your pronunciation of Worchester(Wuss-Sta/Ster) is spot on.
looks to be a very good design , strong as well . Very cool , thanks for showing it you did a great video .
Just watched again but this time within the context of Henry vs Spencer vs Trapdoor. The Ball carbine would make an interesting add to the mix. It might jump in between the Henry and Spencer. Looks like it could be smoother to run than the Spencer, albeit slower to reload. Figure out a King's type loading gate and it could give the Henry a run. Besides all that it is good lookin'. Amazing that the casehardening colors have survived so well, no doubt its been in storage most of it's life. This is the rifle I would choose to be reproduced today. Might be an NFA item though, that barrel looks awfully short. Ian, thanks for another great video.
These antiques are just the best thing on Forgotten Weapons!
Kudos for pronouncing "Worcester" correctly!
Lol
Thank for another great video brother keep them up learn so much from these videos
>Baby Panda Safety Tips
dear god what's going on with my youtube suggestions box
Along side Safety Panda, I have a cocaine-full dog and a monkey, the latter hammering strangely colored nails, two fruits, one is an yellow lemon with insomnia problems and the other is a happy strawberry, the last figure in the same thumbnail looks like a muffin with a bunch of grapes coming out of it bottom.
"dear god what's going on with my youtube suggestions box"
Not just yours.
Also I think that "Baby Panda Safety Tips" video is kind of a slut being on three separate channels. :D
Ian's original video on the Ball Carbine was one of the first I watched. Like Ian I would love to shoot one of these.
amazing vid!
"Matriculated" -- not a word you get to use every day.
Ian has an excellent vocabulary. Pettifoggery necessitates orotund speech, which endorses the obfuscatory and depreciates the diminutive.
I think he meant 'percolated', not 'matriculated': en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/percolate en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/matriculate
Why use obfuscatory words when the diminutive will suffice. Why use big words when small ones will do.
I've heard matriculated used in place of enrolled, as in enrolled in a school, but I've never heard it used like that.
@wbbh It uses fewer syllables than a handful of smaller words, thus improving the signal-to-noise ratio.
The condition of this rifle is great. The case hardening looks solid as all hell, and the action sounds smooth and tight. Shame ammo would be hard to make for this thing.
Ian, have you ever played the 1866 mod for the original Mount and Blade? There's a lot of really cool rare weapons, including the Ball carbine. Seems like something that would interest you in the same vein as Battlefield 1.
I'm actually watching this video right now to modify all the stats for the guns in the 1866 mod to be realistic in terms of velocity, reload speed, damage, ect.
magazine cut off in a lever action rifel. cool. and so mecanical simple.
can we get Ian bobble heads please?
That split chamber really intruiges me; any other guns where that was done?
I'd love to know the history behind that magazine cut-off. If these rifle were never issued and remained in storage from 1866 to 1901, then you wouldn't think that the army would have bothered making the conversion or if they had done it you'd think they would've done it on a mass scale and every single one of these guys would've been subjected to the update. At the same time I can't really see a civilian being overly concerned with the idea of conserving ammunition for fear of having his supply lines cut off or having to bear the cost of the mass production of ammunition. It makes you wonder who added it and what their motivation was.
By the way what is the history behind magazine cut-offs; when and why exactly did they come into vogue, obviously they weren't of great concern during the Civil War era but were omnipresent by the turn of the century. Was it due to the introduction of smokeless small bore ammunition or was it in practice before with black powder tube magazine rifles like the Vetterli and Mauser 1871/84?
my money is on the army selling them surplus to bannermans or something. and later in life someone wanted to single load the rifle for sharpshooting contests. or something of that nature.
who knows. but its an interesting idea, knowledge of who, where, when and why they did it.
would have liked to see the barrel opening on that thing and an old shell casing.
Hey Ian, can you bring back the intro theme from 2 years ago?
Nice.
Dude, this is awesome. Too bad these never caught on.
Technically it could cock when operating the lever if it had some sort of catch on the bolt
Quick question; do you have an actual high-speed camera? Or does your standard camera have a high-speed function? I really enjoy the super slow-mo shots of you firing the guns, and I was just curious how many frames per second the camera is running for those slow-mo shots. Thanks!
My high speed filming is done with an Edgertronic high speed camera, usually at about 2000 frames/second.
Forgotten Weapons wow that is fast! Keep up the great work! You're hands down my favorite gun channel, I always watch your videos as soon as they come out every day!
I thought that the military preferred the spencer because it was more rugged and durable. They didn't care that the Henry was faster if it was more likely to jam from dirt or a bent magazine
It costs 3 cents?! Darn, that's too rich for my blood.
Now I'm seeing Baby Panda Safety Tips in the side bar. Are you branching out?
I think that is part of UA-cam's drive to be family friendly. Guns are evil! EVIL! So let us, your Google overlords, suggest family-friendly content. I, for one, welcome my new Google Overlords and thank them for their mind-controlling interference.
Seems it would not offer any advantage over the Spencer they already had in service, other then perhaps being better looking. I would suspect slower reloads with this one.
I´d buy that for a dollar!....or 12 cents. You really get a bang for your buck there, it´s a neat compact repeater rifle.
This may seem like i stupid question but if youtube has demonetized all non laughable ( not literally ) content , why do i still keep getting unskipable french adds?
Ian can you do a review of the realistic first person shooter Insurgency?
Thought you were going to demonities?
Prob'ly wouldn't take much to convert a used one to center fire.
Just found this out: Gun Jesus' dad was in Tales of the Gun: Japanese guns of WWII
seems like a better opperating evens rifle
.13 in 1901 is just over $4 today.
the patent date is the day after my birthday.
i'll have one thanks .....in 45LC
Why in this world would the US military keep turning down multi shot repeaters? Short sited as all hell.
it was because of this ONE GENERAL who thought with repeaters"THEYLL SHOOT THEM BULLETS TO DAMNED FAST!" "MUH VOLLEYFIRE"
Really, do you figure today's military would just adopt some laser guns in the middle of the largest conflict they ever saw ????
phileas007 If they were full auto laserguns that needed reloading every 10k rounds, had no recoil, and put the impact of a .50 bmg to shame? No, they're not that smart.
Right away to the whole force? Of course not, but I can see a few dozens given to some folks to see how they would perform in the field. IMHO, in any prolonged conflict, technologically superior side has the advantage.
No, in a major conflict, the side with the most resources generally wins.
volley fire?
Should have given some of them to the marines. Since they got stuck with trapdoors until WW1
Designed by a future watch maker family and forebearers of the 5 Ball brothers that purchased, upgraded and founded Ball Mason Jars and also purchased Secretary and Teacher Schools, creating, founding and donating the now, Ball State University??? Yes! That's part of my family genealogy.
But now we can fire it with pleasure-not anger!
Dude it's like 5 am and it said this video was uploaded 20 minutes ago and there is already like 740 views. dear God people need sleep. I proly should sleep too
It's already tomorrow in Australia. :D
Terry Fritz 11 hours ago
jarod drake 11 hours ago it was 3 pm in Central Europe.
Something tells me that they won't cost 12 cents now, lol.
That is too bad the Union didn't got Balls in time.
These were used by the Romanians in the 1877 Russo-Turkish war
Store them for 35 years and THEN sell them for 0.12 each. The MIC's wasteful ways aren't a new thing.
'Lamson had only got one Ball...'
Sorry.
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I bet this gun kicked like a mule :()
Hello guys.
A beautiful well made gun and nobody is ever going to fully load and fire it. This gun is not amiable to being being used to fire center fire ammunition. Dixie Gun Works once had a device that you could use to fire one round at a time but even it might damage the hammer.
does it accept glocknade clipazines? lol
And any bayopods can be attached to it's bottom too.
Hehe.. Balls Patent