PEPTIDES: Do they ACTUALLY work? (Science explained)

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  • @mitchellhooperstrongman
    @mitchellhooperstrongman  5 місяців тому +33

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    • @Menthix
      @Menthix 5 місяців тому

      Great video, and a very interesting topic. Sarms and peptides really need more research and should come to the front lines of healthcare.

    • @demetriuscooksey7147
      @demetriuscooksey7147 5 місяців тому

      Can you tell us how much it costs, and if it's covered by insurance?

    • @yaboycookz
      @yaboycookz 5 місяців тому

      So where can I get these peptides? I'm not seeing them anywhere.

    • @lasombor1
      @lasombor1 4 місяці тому

      This is soooo nothing saying that even my president can't do better. Zero zero zero...

    • @Scorpio77902
      @Scorpio77902 Місяць тому

      BPC 157, THYMOSIN BETA 4 and TESAMORELIN, are you taking all Injections for all of these, or does your doctor have you on some injections and some pills for some of them. Thanks for this update, Great Intel Video, Thanks MOOSE!

  • @jasonp621
    @jasonp621 5 місяців тому +188

    I am currently taking BPC 157 and TB500. needed a left shoulder reconstruction hadn’t gotten more than 2 hours of sleep a night for 2 years. couldn’t put a shirt on without agonizing pain. 2 weeks later, no pain i can press 80lbs for shoulder press at 165lbs body weight. Zero side effects. It brought me out of my depression from not being able to do anything and the increased sleep made my testosterone jump 134 points. (i’m 24) I swear by this.

    • @georgegeorgio70
      @georgegeorgio70 4 місяці тому +10

      What company did you take? Thats amazing to hear

    • @yungemu3236
      @yungemu3236 4 місяці тому +3

      Link to the site bro

    • @jasonp621
      @jasonp621 4 місяці тому

      @@georgegeorgio70 prescribed by a dr didn’t buy from a site.

    • @jasonp621
      @jasonp621 4 місяці тому

      @@yungemu3236 prescribed by a dr didn’t buy from a site.

    • @robspencer9320
      @robspencer9320 4 місяці тому +1

      What's your dosage for each ? I am starting this weekend for a knee injury. Any info is appreciated

  • @kyledavies4651
    @kyledavies4651 5 місяців тому +360

    Finally an athlete thats transparent and honest.nice to see 💪

    • @dappas8682
      @dappas8682 5 місяців тому +76

      If he’s being transparent he should address the heavy steroid use in strongman…no one else has the balls to do it…

    • @distraught69
      @distraught69 5 місяців тому +18

      And he's not a pioneer and at this point he's jumping on the bandwagon

    • @getchapull3541
      @getchapull3541 5 місяців тому

      ​@@dappas8682there's a lot on the line if they do that. Sponsorship being one.

    • @luizmertenscavaillier
      @luizmertenscavaillier 5 місяців тому +39

      ​@@dappas8682He explained why he won't do that in the beginning of the series.

    • @gamertd4093
      @gamertd4093 5 місяців тому

      @@dappas8682heavy steroid use usually means death at a young age. Most strongmen are living well into their 60s and 70s. The difference here is what steroids are being used vs bodybuilders. Also who gives a fuck if they use steroids? I don’t get why people like you are so butthurt about it

  • @tomlaflamme8346
    @tomlaflamme8346 5 місяців тому +125

    Seriously Mitchell, you had a great idea with this serie. It's really nice to have your view on the subject and thanks for your transparency.

  • @ASOA_STRENGTH
    @ASOA_STRENGTH 5 місяців тому +37

    I'm 3 weeks into BPC157 and TB500 and the impact they've had on an issue I've been having with my knee have been phenomenal. Beforehand I was unable to even bodyweight squat following an injury sustained in the run up to a competition, and just yesterday I was able to box squat 60kg. This is huge for me after the last 12 months or so. Fingers crossed rehab and recovery continue this well, and hopefully there are no unforeseen issues with these compounds that come to light in future 😅
    Thanks for this video, Mitch, echoing much of what I've already been hearing but great to see it coming from someone like yourself.

    • @mightylordkuba
      @mightylordkuba 5 місяців тому

      :D wait till you go off... This stuff more mask the pain rather than heal itselves. But if you do not train hard and give your body recovery it will heal itselves despite peptide use.

    • @DrBobCounsels
      @DrBobCounsels 5 місяців тому

      How did you get prescribed/get ahold of BPC 157? I was under the impression it was banned? Thanks in advance

    • @syclone1012
      @syclone1012 5 місяців тому

      @@DrBobCounsels Transcend offers it.

    • @ASOA_STRENGTH
      @ASOA_STRENGTH 5 місяців тому

      @@DrBobCounsels I'm in the UK so at the moment it's still very easy to buy as a research drug not for human consumption.

    • @ASOA_STRENGTH
      @ASOA_STRENGTH 5 місяців тому

      Further - I managed 170kg x 2 on my box squats last week at the peak of a huge pyramid set. It's definitely working for me 😁

  • @DkBu-zy6ui
    @DkBu-zy6ui 5 місяців тому +87

    I was hoping you would cover this, mitch. Cheers

  • @HNNNGGG12
    @HNNNGGG12 5 місяців тому +865

    Can wait for the episode on Steroid cycles

    • @true-fiction
      @true-fiction 5 місяців тому +128

      I think he said in the supplement episode that he's not going to talk about that.

    • @Kansanite
      @Kansanite 5 місяців тому +77

      Nope, that's a learn on your own topic 😂

    • @gsftbeast9761
      @gsftbeast9761 5 місяців тому +62

      Whatever he’s says just times it by 5 these strongman competitor are no on low dosages

    • @alexlorincz9912
      @alexlorincz9912 5 місяців тому +30

      Maybe when he retires he’ll talk about it

    • @So-FarGone
      @So-FarGone 5 місяців тому +28

      @@true-fiction shame, he seemed like the first transparent bodybuild. that's sad but understandable.

  • @thegreatbenis225
    @thegreatbenis225 5 місяців тому +12

    mitchell is so honest, its super refreshing. amazing content and the edits are so good. really felt like a big documentary you would see from a studio

  • @ronaldshriver6170
    @ronaldshriver6170 5 місяців тому +56

    Love all your videos but I especially love this series right now and am looking forward to it every week!

  • @davidhickey8613
    @davidhickey8613 5 місяців тому +19

    One of the best sports/health videos I've watched. Thanks for talking about real stuff

  • @Gnome_Gnomington
    @Gnome_Gnomington 5 місяців тому +42

    I’m a peptide user, and I can attest to the greatness of these substances. If used responsibly. I truly enjoyed GHRP-6 and BPC-157. They helped me heal my ulcerative colitis, heal my injuries, and gain ten lean pounds of muscle.

    • @warlordmel
      @warlordmel 5 місяців тому +2

      Do you know if women also can take for healing... My mom injured her shoulder and get poor help from hospital.. Even though we live in Sweden with good healthcare.. She also is on the older side, 73, but active.. Ty for answer 🙏

    • @Gnome_Gnomington
      @Gnome_Gnomington 5 місяців тому +13

      @@warlordmel bro, I’ve put so many injured old folks on it, I can’t recommend BPC-157 enough for men and women.

    • @warlordmel
      @warlordmel 5 місяців тому

      @user-yq3wi6gb9n So even safe for my most precious thing in the world, my kids excluded, Mom ❤ Very interesting... Any way i can reach out to you for more info?
      Cheers from Sweden!

    • @warlordmel
      @warlordmel 5 місяців тому

      @user-yq3wi6gb9n Man sounds Awesome!! Any way I can reach out for more info, PM in any way or such? 🤔

    • @DadGetsFit
      @DadGetsFit 5 місяців тому +1

      Is this something you would take to help recovery? I train heavy but suffer on recovery

  • @hairyape_8103
    @hairyape_8103 5 місяців тому +44

    Thanks for the coverage on this type of topic

  • @655deadlift
    @655deadlift 5 місяців тому +26

    BPC 157 helped me with my hip problem. It is pretty amazing stuff.

    • @randallgd
      @randallgd 5 місяців тому

      Curious how it helped if you don't mind? Got a hip issue myself

    • @fakename5015
      @fakename5015 5 місяців тому +5

      Shoulder here. I have no control experiment but my doc felt I healed fast and he’s done over 5,000 shoulders…got it from my doc who uses a compounding pharmacy

    • @jayargo1460
      @jayargo1460 5 місяців тому +1

      Where did you end up getting your BPC157?

    • @fakename5015
      @fakename5015 5 місяців тому

      @@jayargo1460 doc

    • @655deadlift
      @655deadlift 5 місяців тому

      @@jayargo1460 from England.

  • @Sneedl-Woods
    @Sneedl-Woods 5 місяців тому +7

    you know theese strongman guys are all great...but Mitch is different. He is so smart and greedy for knowledge. so nice to have him! looking forward for the next episode. peace!

  • @joef1006
    @joef1006 5 місяців тому +4

    Brilliant to see you finally cutting a strong path forward in trying too be as open as you can with your personal life as a top level athlete and on this interesting topic people dont know its a very small parts of the the hole picture.

  • @Dan-kh2qu
    @Dan-kh2qu 5 місяців тому +12

    This s a great series MItch, would be good if you can find a way to extend the mini series into a regular feature. Informative detailed unbiased, delves into subjects based on science and evidence. keep up the good work and good luck with the WSM prep

    • @mitchellhooperstrongman
      @mitchellhooperstrongman  5 місяців тому +4

      I definitely have plans to include this style moving forward!

    • @mmg2nyc
      @mmg2nyc 2 місяці тому

      How is it unbiased? He has a partnership link

  • @Bros35
    @Bros35 5 місяців тому +7

    Man this is just confirmation for me. Been struggling lately something feels off reached out to a health and wellness dr had all my blood work done last week and now I go in 2 weeks to see where all my levels are at. This series has been awesome keep it up!

  • @jeremiahgriffin9428
    @jeremiahgriffin9428 5 місяців тому +4

    Good to finally see a video that informs honestly about these issues. Every other video I see is just a natty or not cancel culture parade and they create such an unhealthy environment online or in reality. Thanks Moose!
    #LHBK

  • @olivergilmartin
    @olivergilmartin 5 місяців тому +2

    This is so important. I've had TRT for a decade and tried peptides on and off to great benefit in all cases every time. Better health and optimising life.

  • @wolf359loki
    @wolf359loki 5 місяців тому +13

    BPC157 and TB500 are often called the Wolverine Stack.

    • @mitchellhooperstrongman
      @mitchellhooperstrongman  5 місяців тому +3

      It is hugely helpful, but make sure to go through professionals -- blokes.co

    • @BrandonBigB956
      @BrandonBigB956 5 місяців тому

      They definitely work! They don't want these to be made legal as it takes away from big pharma and what they make money on. I swear the fist dose made a difference.

    • @WinnerMentality
      @WinnerMentality 5 місяців тому +1

      @@mitchellhooperstrongman what sites best to go through for Barrie ontario??

    • @Cousin.Justin
      @Cousin.Justin 4 місяці тому +1

      ​@@WinnerMentality peptide warehouse

  • @seanvalentinus
    @seanvalentinus 2 місяці тому +1

    Hi Mitchell, just wanted to tell you how much I appreciate this video. I'm a currently non-athletic person who is trying to get into fitness, but been struggling hard with exhaustion issues. I've done a decent bit of looking, and so far you're the only one I've found giving a middle of the road account of these things. Everything else has either seemed to be saying "These are great great great" or "Touching these is insane don't even think about it".

  • @bigup6641
    @bigup6641 5 місяців тому +59

    i love vitamin T

  • @KnowingHistory.
    @KnowingHistory. 5 місяців тому +2

    I’m loving the series ! Don’t know how your videos don’t get more views , people are missing out. Keep it going !

    • @jeffreypetree7163
      @jeffreypetree7163 4 місяці тому

      I personally just stumbled on this video today . So I'm subscribing.

  • @tonypedersen7264
    @tonypedersen7264 5 місяців тому +12

    I have so much respect for you talking so openly about it. I don´t do peptides and never will, but thanks for the transparency☝

    • @Gasta1983
      @Gasta1983 4 дні тому

      Wonder why you would not?

  • @shop2247
    @shop2247 26 днів тому +1

    Thanks for the video. Personal experience--I had a terrible "dead arm" shoulder injury.(rotator cuff) I had 1 inch range of motion forward, backward and sideways before excruciating pain. I bought some Biowell labs BPC-157 after 8 days of the most painful experience in my lifetime-48 years old. I was eating Advil all day feeling a pain of a screwdriver in my shoulder-no sleep and throbbing badly, nonstop. After 2 days of taking these pills I could start to move my arm again with the throbbing subsiding. Now 5 days later I have full range of motion and zero pain. I bought a 60 count of capsules and only ended up eating 12 total. Unbelievable!

  • @sariusslain
    @sariusslain 5 місяців тому +91

    oh, looks like Mitchell is brave, uploading this. strong!

    • @three6gaming195
      @three6gaming195 5 місяців тому +15

      what do you mean? its not like people don't know they take stuff if you are at that top of the game you pretty much have to

    • @warlordmel
      @warlordmel 5 місяців тому

      ​@@three6gaming195Excuse me?? 😅😅 NO ONE talk about their usage... Name one ACTIVE Strongman with vids talking about usage... This IS BRAVE as hell and interesting...
      + if any other Active strongman doesn't take what he does, guess what they will do the day after tomorrow or sooner...

    • @sariusslain
      @sariusslain 5 місяців тому

      always more respect for someone, how is being open about it, instead of just not denying@@three6gaming195

    • @IVIFII2IC
      @IVIFII2IC 5 місяців тому +8

      @@three6gaming195there’s a lot of stupid people brother 😂

    • @tyronenosworthy1874
      @tyronenosworthy1874 5 місяців тому

      Its not illegal numb nuts lol. You can literally buy it in Canada online

  • @Jonse70
    @Jonse70 5 місяців тому +4

    This is pure gold, thank you very much 👊

  • @KINGKLIP987456123
    @KINGKLIP987456123 5 місяців тому +7

    This was such a cool video man. Thanks for this.

    • @mitchellhooperstrongman
      @mitchellhooperstrongman  5 місяців тому +3

      No problem! LHBK

    • @benmrgamw681
      @benmrgamw681 5 місяців тому

      ​@@mitchellhooperstrongmancan i ask if you would work out while taking bpc 157? Ive had issues on the outside of my elbows while gripping and upright rows etc for a long while now

  • @08impact
    @08impact 5 місяців тому +5

    Great video and a great very detailed description of these peptides! Cheers for the Content

  • @donk3ysmash
    @donk3ysmash 5 місяців тому +4

    Awesome vid Mitchell. Love your honesty and you videos are so informative! So I looked into doing a course of bpc157 & tb500 (tb4) quite some time ago after an injury. I tried to consult a doctor beforehand. Not only had no doctor I spoke to even heard of peptides, no physio no trainer no one had even heard of the compounds or any peptide. Maybe the uk is a little behind but it was very difficult to get medical advice.

  • @vinceb557
    @vinceb557 5 місяців тому +22

    Loving the content but if you're doing a series called "No stone unturned", why don't we discuss the topic of steroids? I dont mean this in a negative way at all and I think you should steer clear from promoting it, but you're doing the exact opposite of the series name by leaving a very specific stone unturned.

    • @derrickmorgan6220
      @derrickmorgan6220 5 місяців тому

      It's just like any bodybuilder only they use the ones for strength

    • @robothug6688
      @robothug6688 5 місяців тому

      Or what about dick size. We need to know. No stone unturned

    • @JB-qt3wo
      @JB-qt3wo 4 місяці тому +3

      The reason why he can’t is because steroids are schedule 3 drugs and possession is a felony crime in the US. Openly discussing the use of steroids online is essentially admitting to a crime publicly, which could then be used in court against him as evidence that he uses steroids, in the off chance that he gets caught in possession of them.

    • @gotlifez3558
      @gotlifez3558 22 дні тому

      @@JB-qt3wo RP's dr. mike do it in many videos lol, he is usa'nian too

  • @howy3333
    @howy3333 5 місяців тому +1

    Your communication and transparency is amazing

  • @user-strength10
    @user-strength10 5 місяців тому +3

    really appreciate Mitch for putting this forward, greg's tried to do his best but sometimes folks of high level even need help, total respect (btw mitch noticed your sub counter growing fast.... congrat's, you'll hit that 200K mark within 2-3 months i think, keep going, Keltie O'conner, probably the most BA female fitness person on YT thought she'd never hit 60K and now she has over 600K.... yhou can do this friend, also if your looking for a collab she'd probably be down, your both Canadian afterall lol)

    • @Lucas_Jeffrey
      @Lucas_Jeffrey 5 місяців тому

      No one expects strongmen to be 'natural'. It's a very unnatural endeavor. No one is going to live forever, everyone should be free to use their body as they wish. Ofc it makes sense to discourage steroids, but I wonder what good is being done by banning injured athletes from using BPC157 to recover to baseline. It's not even in the same ballpark as anabolic steroids or even hGH.

  • @jacquie212
    @jacquie212 4 місяці тому +1

    At 41 years old… peptides have been a life changer. Cjc/ipomorelin has more than anything else, helped my sleep, cleared up my brain fog, and massively upped my energy levels.
    The bpc helped massively on a ruptured bicep, but I only took it for that, and while my recovery accelerated massively when I started, it isn’t something repeatable (knock on wood).
    The cjc/ipo I cycled off and went into a massive slump, or rather I reverted to my old self… I cannot stress enough the massive turn around it has helped me with.

    • @gotlifez3558
      @gotlifez3558 22 дні тому

      what you mean with the last sentence? so did you have any sideeffects or were all going back to "as it was before" after you were of this stuff you mentioned?

  • @TerriblyNice_Not
    @TerriblyNice_Not 5 місяців тому +8

    The absence of reference to PED usage in this series is glaring. It's also borderline unethical given the obvious usage in professional strongman. And that's not a criticism. It's an acknowledged aspect of the sport, and it is not tested - so go ahead and do what you like. But talking about health, training, or technique and selling supplements without referring to the impact of PED use on performance is, in my personal opinion, unacceptable because it gives the impression that all things being equal (i.e. genetics) you can achieve a certain performance level through just those things

    • @mitchellhooperstrongman
      @mitchellhooperstrongman  5 місяців тому +13

      The average person should not be on PED's so I will not provide advice on them.

    • @TerriblyNice_Not
      @TerriblyNice_Not 5 місяців тому +5

      @@mitchellhooperstrongman Of course not. The issue isn't you recommending someone should be, rather the complete lack of reference to them while discussing performance overall is the issue

  • @the0stacie0
    @the0stacie0 2 дні тому

    Using BPC 157 and TB 500 after lung cancer surgery. It's been 2 months since the surgery and I believe it helped me to boost my recovery. I still have coughing problems, but my wound healed very fast, I have no chest pain (doctors still expect that I have chest pain) and once the wound healed I started to get my strength back rapidly.

  • @elvistrompf317
    @elvistrompf317 5 місяців тому +6

    Love this, but hormones aren't just derived from cholesterol. They are amino acid and peptides too.
    Insulin is a peptide hormone

  • @richardbooth610
    @richardbooth610 Місяць тому

    Love how well spoken and straight forward you are

  • @mediumchicago_pizza
    @mediumchicago_pizza 5 місяців тому +27

    the bpc 157 shoutout is solid

    • @mediumchicago_pizza
      @mediumchicago_pizza 5 місяців тому +1

      it also might give u more girth lol

    • @Vincent-fv1ch
      @Vincent-fv1ch 5 місяців тому +2

      @@mediumchicago_pizza what? explain this and provide evicence pls

    • @98vuxs70cigxocp
      @98vuxs70cigxocp 5 місяців тому

      @@Vincent-fv1chfor science

    • @mediumchicago_pizza
      @mediumchicago_pizza 5 місяців тому

      @@Vincent-fv1ch just some dude’s anecdote on substack lol. i can look for it later but yea the dude said he had some growth

    • @cd66061
      @cd66061 5 місяців тому

      @@mediumchicago_pizzathe mrs would be like 😮

  • @grahamgrant9421
    @grahamgrant9421 5 місяців тому +2

    Mich is damn straight when he said the first thing you should be able play with your child, i got wrapped up in wanting more, working 12 hour shifts, driving 1/2 hours to work those shifts my son is now 13 and i realise how much i missed. Hands up Mr Hooper............I got it wrong.

    • @gotlifez3558
      @gotlifez3558 22 дні тому

      its magic, how small things, someone says, can have SUCH an impact on one's thinking.. realization
      one of the big magic points in interhumanaction

  • @CraigularjJoeWoodworks
    @CraigularjJoeWoodworks 5 місяців тому +24

    I don’t understand how the series is called “no stone left unturned” but refused to talk about steroids. There’s a stone left unturned

    • @jasoncrandall
      @jasoncrandall 4 місяці тому

      Peptides aren’t Steroids.

    • @stewdude1857
      @stewdude1857 4 місяці тому

      being the stone he lifts are 300pd plus. you fkn ask him peewee.

    • @audiofreak09
      @audiofreak09 4 місяці тому

      This vid is about peptides dummy

    • @audiofreak09
      @audiofreak09 4 місяці тому

      This vid is about peptides dummy

    • @D4runner91
      @D4runner91 2 місяці тому

      Weird, the title says peptides, not steroids.. I wonder why he didn't talk about steroids but touched up on some steroids like GH

  • @robranko5931
    @robranko5931 5 місяців тому +2

    This man is 1 of a kind...love ya

  • @dalecook4805
    @dalecook4805 5 місяців тому +3

    A lot of great info, will have to rewatch to take it all in. Was thinking of taking BPC-157 post shoulder surgery but didn't want to order it off amazon 😂

    • @mitchellhooperstrongman
      @mitchellhooperstrongman  5 місяців тому +1

      Go to blokes.co to get a consult with a real professional and get your health in a good spot from a. reliable source

  • @andreiconstantinpadina
    @andreiconstantinpadina 5 місяців тому +2

    You are the first strongman who talks open about those things. Amazing and huge respect for what you do! Big fan

  • @KyletheCoach
    @KyletheCoach 5 місяців тому +3

    Grateful for this. Never considered peptides or anything like them, but I’ve always been curious how people reach peak performance.

  • @SeyaDiakite7
    @SeyaDiakite7 5 місяців тому +1

    You are amazing. Thank you for existing

  • @M1keDaly
    @M1keDaly 5 місяців тому +3

    Great episode. I sure everyone can appreciate the transparency. I'm a big advocate of blood testing. I'm on hormones and get mine taken every 3 months. Haven't tried any of these peptides. Maybe something for me to look at though. Help with all the DOMS I have between sessions.

    • @mitchellhooperstrongman
      @mitchellhooperstrongman  5 місяців тому +1

      Peptides can be a great solution. Head to blokes.co to get a proper consult to know what you should be taking

    • @TheMortalKombatent
      @TheMortalKombatent 4 місяці тому

      You should not need help with doms ever. Natty or unnatty doms should only be a thing for the first week or two after a long time off

  • @francisneal3013
    @francisneal3013 4 місяці тому +1

    Great video. Thanks Mitchell!

  • @CookieMonster1
    @CookieMonster1 5 місяців тому +6

    Hi Mitchell loving your content it’s extremely informative and honest.
    I’m reaching out to you because somethings is happening to me which isn’t spoken about in the fitness/strength industry at all and I feel that in another 10-15 years it’s going to become a big killer of under 40. Long story short, been training since the age of 20 years old, all kinds of training and when I was 24-25 years old decided to go onto steroids, not particularly a high dose initially but gradually over time I took just about everything competed in a few local strongman competitions etc and pretty much was on steroids virtually all the time so 14-15 years. I was a doorman for years so it just went with the territory I guess. When I was 39 just by chance I was having a scan on my heart for something unrelated and by chance they found an aortic root aneurysm that was 51mm. I immediately changed my lifestyle, stopped taking steroids went cold turkey and stopped lifting heavy weights, I did have to go on trt as I’ve destroyed my natural testosterone production. Fast forward 7 years as with regular scans I am now facing major open heart surgery within the next 6 weeks to replace my aortic root, if I don’t have it done it will eventually kill me. I want to raise awareness simply because the amount of young men on steroids now and the ridiculous dosages they are on, it’s going to kill a lot of men going forward and virtually no one is aware of what aortic aneurysms are. When i mention it to lads in the gym they don’t know what an aortic aneurysm is.Whether it’s an interview or if you just do a piece about it, i genuinely think awareness will save lives. I’m reaching out and am prepared to be very candid and honest about what I did to get to this point.
    Kind regards
    Luke

    • @gotlifez3558
      @gotlifez3558 22 дні тому

      man i hope all best and God bless for your healthy future
      and keep in mind, this issue with your heart ppl can get to that never ever touched a steroid
      just wanted to point that out

  • @crepesaresupreme4075
    @crepesaresupreme4075 5 місяців тому +2

    Ran bpc157 and tb500 for about 5 months for a forearm injury. I don’t if it helped it heal faster but I came back stronger. Only negative that I actively experienced was when I quit taking them and I got severe joint aches for a month

    • @NutriWaveLab
      @NutriWaveLab 20 днів тому

      You shouldn't take this stack for more than two months. Your receptors need a break because by the third month, it loses its potency and effectiveness. After two months, it's best to switch to a different stack, and then, after another two months, you can return to TB-500 and BPC-157. Overall, it's one of the most effective combinations for recovery. You can also add GHK-Cu for even better results.

  • @UrbanLegend2k11
    @UrbanLegend2k11 5 місяців тому +3

    Man this series has been informative!!

  • @zxxXMETALLICAXxxz
    @zxxXMETALLICAXxxz 5 місяців тому +2

    You gained huge respect for this one

  • @lukejay5460
    @lukejay5460 5 місяців тому +44

    But what's the stack?

    • @virtualrealityfitness283
      @virtualrealityfitness283 5 місяців тому +14

      Strongmen don’t talk about that 😂😂

    • @Voidrunner01
      @Voidrunner01 5 місяців тому +12

      @@virtualrealityfitness283 If they did, the content would get taken off youtube. One thing is talking about it in an academic abstract manner, another entirely is telling people what and how to take.

    • @bruuhhhh
      @bruuhhhh 5 місяців тому +32

      ​@@Voidrunner01Mitch said it's an ethics thing. I guess he doesn't want to influence other people to take stuff, which is completely respectable imo

    • @FBI--OPEN--UP---
      @FBI--OPEN--UP--- 5 місяців тому +1

      Would be stupid to answear bacouse other Strongman or begginners would copy and thats stupid

    • @Voidrunner01
      @Voidrunner01 5 місяців тому +1

      @@bruuhhhh Oh, I'm sure it is. But UA-cam would still nuke the content because the second you start providing instructions on HOW to take illegal drugs, you get into some super sticky legal territory, and they don't want any of that heat.

  • @glenanderson6164
    @glenanderson6164 5 місяців тому +1

    This was a great episode and really enjoyed your breakdown of this topic

  • @gediboy5695
    @gediboy5695 5 місяців тому +1

    That intro was fire, the content is clearly getting better!

  • @unclemoneymoneyuncle8702
    @unclemoneymoneyuncle8702 5 місяців тому +3

    I ran ipamorelin along with cjc no dac for a couple of months and it greatly aided in reducing some chronic overuse injuries I've had with patellar tendonitis and rotator cuff madness.
    I think peptides are great and I'm glad we're in a day and age where such things exist. I found the bpc/tb combo to be more useful for muscle strains/tears but the GH secretegogues helped much more for chronic pain more in the connective tissue/joint itself.

    • @vinnyvtec8722
      @vinnyvtec8722 5 місяців тому +1

      I was considering using the bpc157/tb500 for injuries I've got (old rotator cuff tear, partial bicep tear and pain in the top of lat or rear delt) I've never injected anything, but did see somewhere a spray version that you take orally and really don't trust that method to work. What's your experience with bpc/tb combo and how did you administer? Thanks.

    • @unclemoneymoneyuncle8702
      @unclemoneymoneyuncle8702 5 місяців тому

      @@vinnyvtec8722 I saw those nasal versions and didn't trust such either... I found sub-q to work just the same as injected close to the site... There's arguments that go back and forth both ways, but at the end of the day the bloodstream picks it up and distributes things systemically so I noticed zero difference between site injection vs subq. Using little 31g 5/16" insulin syringes you don't even feel it half the times.

    • @unclemoneymoneyuncle8702
      @unclemoneymoneyuncle8702 5 місяців тому

      @@vinnyvtec8722 youtube auto-deleted my reply comment, I say subq yields same results as localized/site since the blood uptakes it and makes things go systemic.

    • @unclemoneymoneyuncle8702
      @unclemoneymoneyuncle8702 5 місяців тому

      @@vinnyvtec8722 youtube keeps deleting any replies of mine.... I made an in depth response and it got deleted, then I made a synopsis and it got deleted, so I throw in the towel and just say do some googling.

    • @unclemoneymoneyuncle8702
      @unclemoneymoneyuncle8702 5 місяців тому

      @@vinnyvtec8722 my replies get auto removed

  • @pstaplehurst
    @pstaplehurst 5 місяців тому +1

    This was a really good video and well edited too, nice one mate.

  • @Bjorn_R
    @Bjorn_R 5 місяців тому +3

    Love this content Mitchell. With regards to the blood test. Could there not be a argument to not go looking for trouble? I think thats the stance of most doctors simply refusing to test testosterone levels fx. I know of an example with X-ray images of people where doctors were who needed surgery and a bunch of them where picked out, afterwards it turns out none of the people on the X-rays images had any pain or movement issues. The human body is just wonky sometimes, just like some people tolerate higher/lower hormone levels unique to them.

  • @roganmckee2350
    @roganmckee2350 5 місяців тому +1

    Love Mitchell’s accent. Feels like every sentence ends with 🤙😎👈👈

  • @minemilx2702
    @minemilx2702 5 місяців тому +15

    Doesn't it at 14:55 say that it induces metastasis and resistance to a chemotherapeutic drug? Isn't that literally the opposite of stopping cancer? Or am I misunderstanding what "induces" means?

    • @heitooooor
      @heitooooor 5 місяців тому +1

      Good catch

    • @R0B711
      @R0B711 5 місяців тому +1

      It was not used to reduce tumor growth like Mitch said, but it was an example of where those peptides are from. So partly wrong with the study, but his point about it being found in a medical study and then carried over to other fields was right. The peptide being the problem and not the solution here is not his point, even though he seems to have it wrong.

    • @minemilx2702
      @minemilx2702 5 місяців тому +2

      @@R0B711 Quite a significant mistake. Some dude could end up taking it in the belief that it is anti-carcinogenic when it is in fact the exact opposite.

    • @R0B711
      @R0B711 5 місяців тому

      @@minemilx2702 right, it is a significant mistake. But I think he made very clear, he isn‘t an expert to take medical advice from.
      Tbh, no cancer advice, even from an expert should be taken from youtube.

  • @toddapplegate3988
    @toddapplegate3988 5 місяців тому +1

    It is important for someone in your position to discuss these issues. Too many people are seeking quick fixes for progress but not understanding "we don't know" part of the equation. Sure WSM competitor but some average Joe at the gym????. The positive health potential is unfortunately insecure if these substances are abused.

  • @DreJr
    @DreJr 5 місяців тому +3

    This was enlightening and informative. I found you did much more talking than the expert though. Good video!

    • @Jjunclejj
      @Jjunclejj 5 місяців тому +1

      Yeah there was no reason for that guy to be there

  • @user-uq5qw1fk3d
    @user-uq5qw1fk3d 5 місяців тому +1

    Interesting to have a peek behind the professional athlete curtain Mitchell. Thanks for the information!

  • @troy2517
    @troy2517 5 місяців тому +3

    Every health professional in Australia - "do not take peptides theyre dangerous, do not take hgh, do not use testosterone it will kill you", then you hit 40+ and the option becomes available to spend thousands getting a script for the lowest TRT you've ever heard of. you kinda just gotta demand that you're taking things and find a doctor that will work with you despite their disapproval.

    • @ahmedabdullah8700
      @ahmedabdullah8700 Місяць тому +1

      Ye we get rubbish here bro. I'm on mk677 and looking into bhrp6 bpc and some others. This stuff I feel is extremely experimental at this stage and now at almost 40 I'm way more aware of the side effects of gear and more scared of serious long term shit

    • @jacoblas1371
      @jacoblas1371 26 днів тому

      I was prescribed TB500 and the side effects were nasty.
      Insomnia, sinus congestion, cough, joint pain, rashes and lethargy.

  • @CJFranciss
    @CJFranciss 5 місяців тому +1

    This series deserves so much more exposure.

  • @pthithic
    @pthithic 5 місяців тому +3

    Not sure what he means re: BPC 157 being "illegal" in the US. Not FDA ≠ "illegal" and you can definitely order it

    • @mitchellhooperstrongman
      @mitchellhooperstrongman  5 місяців тому +1

      Oversimplification - it is illegal to batch produce, making it very difficult for companies to legally manufacture it. In the next while, a lot of these American based companies will go under and BPC will largely be black market.

    • @pthithic
      @pthithic 5 місяців тому

      @@mitchellhooperstrongman interesting. I think peptide sciences goes out of their way to say their peptides are made in the USA, and they're definitely still shipping... So...not sure what's going on

    • @NutriWaveLab
      @NutriWaveLab 20 днів тому

      There's a well-known Austrian peptide called Cerebrolysin, which has shown effectiveness in treating developmental delays in children, as well as conditions like Parkinson’s and Alzheimer’s. Since 1992, it has been listed as an essential medication in many parts of the world. Unfortunately, despite its success in helping millions globally, it hasn’t received FDA approval in the U.S. So, the fact that BPC-157 hasn't been approved in America doesn’t mean it’s ineffective or incapable of saving lives.

  • @luckystrke
    @luckystrke 5 місяців тому +1

    You're great, thanks for making these! 🙏

  • @markmoon9024
    @markmoon9024 5 місяців тому +3

    I interested if Mitch feels there is a benefit to injecting over ingesting bpc 157. Trying to help recover plantar fasciitis but also many other body and muscle issues.

    • @NutriWaveLab
      @NutriWaveLab 20 днів тому

      You shouldn't take this stack for more than two months. Your receptors need a break because by the third month, it loses its potency and effectiveness. After two months, it's best to switch to a different stack, and then, after another two months, you can return to TB-500 and BPC-157. Overall, it's one of the most effective combinations for recovery. You can also add GHK-Cu for even better results.

  • @flexlikeag
    @flexlikeag 5 місяців тому +2

    Love the series

  • @toby4598
    @toby4598 5 місяців тому +7

    I hope this leads on to video about full ped use. great to hear your perspectives

    • @pauldavies7251
      @pauldavies7251 5 місяців тому +1

      Don't be so naive ffs 🤦‍♂️

    • @toby4598
      @toby4598 5 місяців тому

      ​@@pauldavies7251naive about what exactly? Things have to open up at some point. Obviously, sponsors don't want it. But, I choose to be optimistic that people will pave the way to PED use becoming more open soon.

    • @Lucas_Jeffrey
      @Lucas_Jeffrey 5 місяців тому

      He can't talk about AAS. It's unethical to even discuss it. Everyone knows Strongmen use AAS to be competitive. But the appropriate action is not to discuss it, to not inadvertently encourage viewers and fans to consider it for themselves.
      EDIT: Peptides are different. As simple amino-acid chain messenger proteins, the risk profile is like

    • @toby4598
      @toby4598 5 місяців тому +1

      ​@@Lucas_JeffreyUnethical according to you. In my opinion, the experience of trusted public figures is very valuable. Especially given the fact that most pro-strongmen will undoubtedly be able to talk about side effects they have experienced and reasons to not take PEDs. Keeping everything in the dark doesn't stop people using PEDs, it just leads to them doing so less safely and to making preventable mistakes.

  • @Donrosco1
    @Donrosco1 5 місяців тому +1

    Thanks for the good content.
    It’s appreciated.
    👍👌

  • @justnii2056
    @justnii2056 5 місяців тому +5

    There are no tests in mr olympia and wsm. Thats that game

    • @warlordmel
      @warlordmel 5 місяців тому

      There isn't in ANY Strongman comp, no matter the level... Not just top shows...

    • @justnii2056
      @justnii2056 5 місяців тому +1

      @@warlordmel there are actually natural wsm which are tested

    • @warlordmel
      @warlordmel 5 місяців тому

      @justnii2056 Wait what? Never ever heard of?? 🤔
      Is it a new thing? But still, prob ppl use gear, just not doing any comps, get off the gear, then sign up as a competitor get tested, do the comp.. Win...
      I mean ppl are tested In the Olympics as well, ppl get caught 24/7..
      IF you in the future could see if anyone EVER used Roids etc, tested ppl and had a competition... You know it, the weights would be way lower.. Doubt any of those in a Tested WSM been natural all their lives 🤷‍♂️

    • @Lucas_Jeffrey
      @Lucas_Jeffrey 5 місяців тому

      @@justnii2056 I've never heard of this, but it makes sense and I'd be interested to see some content on it. Strongman is so destructive, dangerous and rife with injury, it seems almost foolhardy to do it without enhancement.
      Steroids Vs. Strongman, it's almost the lesser of two evils.

  • @JasonPoston
    @JasonPoston 5 місяців тому +1

    Great video but BPC 157 is NOT illegal in the US. That’s not true. In October 2023 it was labeled a category 2 drug and compounding pharmacies are not allowed to make it for prescription use by a doctor. However, it can still be made and sold in research labs without a prescription. The same exact labs that made pharmaceutical grade can still make BPC 157 for research use in a separate building in their lab. As we read this certain pharmacies in the US are still selling their last stock of BPC157… the long term business is selling for “research purposes”.

    • @rdallas81
      @rdallas81 4 місяці тому

      Thanks for that info Jason

  • @johningham1880
    @johningham1880 5 місяців тому +4

    Slight clarification needed. Not all hormones are cholesterol based (steroids). Insulin, for example, is a peptide hormone. Any endogenous chemical with a widespread regulatory function in the body (I.e. an endocrine function) is a hormone.

    • @mitchellhooperstrongman
      @mitchellhooperstrongman  5 місяців тому +1

      Oversimplification leaves out these details, thank you for giving more info!

  • @truehellbeliever6664
    @truehellbeliever6664 5 місяців тому +2

    You are brave for doing this! LHBK!!!

    • @wileecoyote5749
      @wileecoyote5749 5 місяців тому

      There's no backlash in the sport. Nothing to lose

    • @thecruellestmonth
      @thecruellestmonth 5 місяців тому

      Brave for talking about perfectly legal compounds?

  • @ArichManas
    @ArichManas 5 місяців тому +10

    2:46 "and then we call that a protein"
    Shows a picture of DNA...

    • @justinstuart9109
      @justinstuart9109 5 місяців тому +3

      Then confuses steroid hormones for all hormones, forgetting peptide hormones exist

    • @ArichManas
      @ArichManas 5 місяців тому +4

      @@justinstuart9109 But keeps mentioning insulin which IS a peptide hormone :D

    • @AlphaLionTrillionaire
      @AlphaLionTrillionaire 5 місяців тому +1

      It is a protein 🤦

  • @youtubeconnollyfamily
    @youtubeconnollyfamily 5 місяців тому +1

    Amazing video. Personally I’m ok with it when athletes take steroids if they’re not punching one another. I know you’re not talking about those same steroids these guys took, but when Sammy Sosa going against Mark McGuire when I was a child was the most amazing thing ever lol. Seeing men pick up massive weights is awesome to watch. As long as you’re not trying to fight someone. I’m OK with people taking steroids if they are allowed to.

  • @adrian-gr8hg
    @adrian-gr8hg 5 місяців тому +3

    I just received my first peptide order of BPC/IP coincidentally. Thanks Mitchell.

    • @DadGetsFit
      @DadGetsFit 5 місяців тому

      Let us know how it works! I've been interested I'm trying them because I don't wanna use gear but I love being strong and want to get the most out of my body while I can (I'm 38)

    • @stevelee3144
      @stevelee3144 5 місяців тому

      Bpc 157 mixes with 500 works incredible. There’s a reason why it’s called the Wolverine drug. Was Peptide science

  • @jakewatts7302
    @jakewatts7302 5 місяців тому +2

    bpc157 is very legal in the US

  • @noobpownown
    @noobpownown 5 місяців тому +7

    If you don't have your health, you don't have anything.

  • @ollydaniel4880
    @ollydaniel4880 5 місяців тому +2

    This series is so good, thanks for doing all the research for me Mitch 🧐

    • @mitchellhooperstrongman
      @mitchellhooperstrongman  5 місяців тому +1

      Make sure to subscribe and turn on notifications so you don't miss them!

    • @ollydaniel4880
      @ollydaniel4880 5 місяців тому

      @@mitchellhooperstrongman Subscribed as soon as I watched you win the Arnolds UK, awesome to see!

  • @kishan2239
    @kishan2239 5 місяців тому +8

    Hey Mitch, have you already talked about PED's? Most of it is obvious, but will you talk about the different types and go into detail? It's been quite a taboo on youtube, but the series is called "no stone unturned." Guess I'll have to wait and see.

    • @busabros2480
      @busabros2480 5 місяців тому +9

      he's basically already answered that question in the "supplements" episode. the answers no.

    • @Blueswailer
      @Blueswailer 5 місяців тому +2

      He already inferred/said in the beginning of the supplementation episode that he won't delve into that area.

    • @bruuhhhh
      @bruuhhhh 5 місяців тому +5

      He said he doesn't feel it's ethical to cover specifics, I would assume because he doesn't want to influence other people to do the same thing

    • @Fitsuuu
      @Fitsuuu 5 місяців тому +1

      @@bruuhhhh Which is fine, I don't need to know his stack. I would just love to hear his opinion on the subject

    • @Nolan-55
      @Nolan-55 5 місяців тому +10

      ​@Fitsuuu I think actions speak louder than words. The fact every high level athlete takes gear rather it's strongman, PL, arm wrestling whatever, should tell you their opinions on the matter. If you want to be a high level competitor, there isn't a debate on what you have to do.

  • @miked319
    @miked319 5 місяців тому

    Love this video and your peptide journey, well done and honest, I will be following!
    Thanks

  • @ThanksYep
    @ThanksYep 5 місяців тому +20

    10:38 “How does it make you a better dad and a father?” Wtf is this BS? Correlating peptide use to parenthood is a quite a choice. This sounds super religious/cultish

    • @lphtahoe
      @lphtahoe 5 місяців тому +4

      Yup! That storyline was kinda surprising….
      Especially when he goes onto call it ‘Russian roulette’.

    • @atodaso1668
      @atodaso1668 5 місяців тому +3

      Did you not listen to what came afterwards? It makes it so that he can train heavy, be the WSM Arnold champ etc, and still have enough energy and mobility left over to play with his kid.

    • @TheQShow
      @TheQShow 5 місяців тому +1

      That was definitely a little odd, especially considering how far down it ended up. Although I understand his passion for the potential of peptides allowing folk to have a much better quality of life as they age

  • @edstar7894
    @edstar7894 5 місяців тому +1

    Peptides are primary messengers. They bind to outside of cell, and promote a secondary messenger to be produced within the cell which then tiggers physiological changes at cellular level.
    Steroids which are lipid (or cholesterol as Mitch stated), move through the cell membrane (don’t need a primary messenger) and act immediately to trigger physiological changes.
    The former artificially promotes a natural process which you body is designed to do, whereas the later bypasses your natural process and act’s directly.
    On this basis there is reasonable expectation that Peptides may be safer than steroids, but they are still accelerating processes in your body which it is not designed or evolved to do.
    Like with steroids, you body will still experience a deficit if you withdraw and it’s ability to produce its own primary messenger will be lowered until/if you recover.

  • @kerrykelly9591
    @kerrykelly9591 5 місяців тому +4

    we really really really really need to get mitch on JRE!

  • @EnriqueAndrade-bz3mm
    @EnriqueAndrade-bz3mm 3 місяці тому +1

    Took tb500 alone bpc gave me insomnia since it has strong nootropic effects also so I stopped. It’s been over 8 months since then and the pain I had in my knees and back have not returned. If I deadlifted once I would be done for weeks, completely gone. Tb works

  • @Peterpower11
    @Peterpower11 5 місяців тому +15

    steriods next?🙂

    • @ColdStone52
      @ColdStone52 5 місяців тому +2

      This a joke ? 😂

    • @Washyourbellybutton
      @Washyourbellybutton 5 місяців тому

      Why would it be? It's completely legal in Canada. He can speak openly about it if he wishes.

    • @dappas8682
      @dappas8682 5 місяців тому +15

      He really should address the heavy steroid use in strongman if he’s being transparent…

    • @everythingstrength1485
      @everythingstrength1485 5 місяців тому +2

      To hear them ALL tell it...their "natural"....my ass 🧐🙄

    • @TangoKilo-fp8uu
      @TangoKilo-fp8uu 5 місяців тому +7

      @@everythingstrength1485There isn’t a single professional strongman that has ever claimed to be natural.

  • @jordanlewis4308
    @jordanlewis4308 5 місяців тому +1

    Homeboy wrote his script like I am supposed to grade it or something 😂😂😂😂😂

  • @christopher5622
    @christopher5622 5 місяців тому +5

    When are we getting the anabolic steroid stack video?

  • @imccrae1
    @imccrae1 5 місяців тому +2

    Thank you for having such an honest, transparent discussion on this subject.

  • @Training4Life-q4w
    @Training4Life-q4w 5 місяців тому +3

    still waiting for a video on the difference in strength and performance for a trained athlete who uses nothing but natural food to help them perform vs an athlete who depends on man made pharmaceuticals. Just curious for your thoughts on the subject because of your educational background and personal experience

  • @Ryanlyfts
    @Ryanlyfts 5 місяців тому +1

    Love the series Mitch.

  • @ioptums1952
    @ioptums1952 5 місяців тому +4

    Just tell the people your PED cycle , its not gonna change how great you are at strongman. But for us that train would be helpful to know

    • @ur-inannak9565
      @ur-inannak9565 5 місяців тому

      All the common PEDs were created decades ago, what he takes is not going to be any different from the stuff everyone uses. T, Dbol, Primo, etc.

    • @Hhhlll7778
      @Hhhlll7778 5 місяців тому +1

      Come on , it’s common knowledge what Strongmen use , there’s no benefit for him to discuss it here

    • @allylilith5605
      @allylilith5605 5 місяців тому +1

      no, it would be harmful because too many people like you *think* it would be useful. him telling what he does exactly leads to tons of people blindly copying it without having any idea what they are doing and running the full risks without any reason.
      reach your natural limit, hire him or another pro strongman as coach and they will guide you properly if that is truly what you want.
      but if you arent on the edge of getting to the pro level naturally, dont bother trying to imitate a pro's cycle. it's harmful without benefits

    • @deltalima6703
      @deltalima6703 5 місяців тому +1

      Anyone thats going to use steroids does already. Its not ethical to lie or not mention it, its just hypocritical.

    • @allylilith5605
      @allylilith5605 5 місяців тому +4

      @@deltalima6703 he doesnt lie and does mention that he isnt natural. there are absolutely people who would start taking steroids or increase their doses just to imitate him. He's handling it perfectly: being honest and not pretending to be natural, but also not leading people down the path to do it themselves.
      counterpoint: anyone for who it makes sense to take steroids for performance, knows what to take, and doesnt rely on youtube videos for their information

  • @ln5282
    @ln5282 5 місяців тому +1

    Awesome video. Really well done.

  • @spyross2391
    @spyross2391 5 місяців тому +3

    So basicaly this is a video to sell peptides.

  • @TL13579
    @TL13579 5 місяців тому +1

    Damn Mitch. I don't think anyone expected this.

  • @justsayin7865
    @justsayin7865 5 місяців тому +4

    Shouldn't call it no stone unturned if you're not going to talk about everything like steroids

  • @espenstoro
    @espenstoro 5 місяців тому

    A very sensible take. Always always always get your bloodwork done before getting on anything, and have it analyzed by a professional. You can read up on individual values and see if they're in the normal range, but you don't know the context of multiple values relative to various conditions that could be good or bad when playing around with hormones. A doctor knows what to look for. Be safe.

  • @DiesIrae3434
    @DiesIrae3434 5 місяців тому +3

    Pregnancy is inherently dangerous. We prescribe birth control because the (well studied, widely documented) side effects are significantly less than the risks associated with pregnancy.
    Taking hormones to maximize athletic performance is not in the same realm at all. I'm not saying that, if safe, it shouldn't be allowed. Just that the two are not equivalent, or even really related ideas.
    And for the very small fraction of people who have pathologic hormone profiles, those are appropriately treated.

    • @allylilith5605
      @allylilith5605 5 місяців тому +1

      there are other very easy ways to prevent pregnancy. for performance and other things, not so much
      edit: your argument would make sense if birth control pills were about making pregnancies safe, not about temporarily preventing them

    • @DiesIrae3434
      @DiesIrae3434 5 місяців тому

      @@allylilith5605Hormonal implant or IUD are the most effective forms of birth control. Copper IUDs are an option, but side effects are not well tolerated by many. OCP or patches are not as good, still hormonal. Condoms are another tier down; given typical use, almost 1/5 women will become pregnant if they rely only on condoms.
      And again, we're talking about taking a medicine to avoid an unintended effect, versus using chemical means to change your body in some way. Again, I'm not completely opposed, I'm just saying they are not comparable aims. You can have all of the health benefits of exercise without taking PEDs/peptides/what have you.