Superman's Forgotten Arch-Nemesis

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  • @Mallory-Malkovich
    @Mallory-Malkovich Рік тому +100

    It's depressing how relevant these radio plays still are almost a century later.

    • @jesseredwards
      @jesseredwards Рік тому +2

      I know 😢

    • @briangilbert8733
      @briangilbert8733 3 місяці тому +1

      W O R D !!! (Typed 15 days before the 2024 U.S. Election.) Praying FOR America vs. those who would prey ON America! 🇺🇸 💙

  • @VelkanKiador
    @VelkanKiador Рік тому +24

    One thing I kinda find delightful is just how tirelessly Batman and Robin are working to recover Superman once he goes missing. It gives them a real sense of comradery and friendship, knowing that Batman won't give up on Superman and go to great lengths bringing him back home.

  • @nutherefurlong
    @nutherefurlong Рік тому +79

    I like the idea of Clark Kent as an actual investigator instead of just a bumbling front for Action Dude

    • @therealcountryboys
      @therealcountryboys Рік тому +12

      Id say thats a mischaracterization of Clark. Clark is nerdy and clumsy but hes always a great investigative reporter

    • @Multi_Purpose_Weirdo
      @Multi_Purpose_Weirdo Рік тому +9

      Yes, I love the idea of a lower-power Superman / Clark who also has to use his investigative reporting skills, and sometimes to solve the mystery he has to team up with an even better detective... a lunatic who dresses like a bat

    • @SingularityOrbit
      @SingularityOrbit Рік тому +3

      @@Multi_Purpose_Weirdo If you take away the "lower-power Superman" part, that description is who Superman is in the comics _right now._ The only difference is that he's more often a double act with his fellow reporter and wife, Lois. Probably for the best, since the "lunatic who dresses like a bat" part is rather more accurate in the comics as of this post. In the Superman/Batman title, though, which is set "in the early years of their superheroic careers" (comic book chronology is confusing), those two were a great buddy investigation team.

  • @michaelramon2411
    @michaelramon2411 Рік тому +20

    17:41 "Like a mighty jet-propelled rocket". I love this line because it sounds awesome while also being completely nonsensical - jet engines and rockets use completely different propulsion methods, and smushing them together would get you something very dangerous that wouldn't fly at all.
    All Superman similes should be equally absurd.

  • @kaboombox1581
    @kaboombox1581 Рік тому +17

    It’s amazing how Superman in the radio show really fleshed out the Man of Steel we all know and love. It expanded his powers (flight), gave us his weakness (Kryptonite) as well as one of his greatest stories.

  • @MrRedFoxorMrelzorrorojo
    @MrRedFoxorMrelzorrorojo Рік тому +53

    Let me put it this way... I love that Superman on the radio beat the everliving shit out of the Klan. Good stuff.

  • @Drekal684
    @Drekal684 Рік тому +26

    The most unbelievable part of this story, is that Latimer would feel anything like guilt or remorse over the evil he's wrought. In my experience, if Superman had tried that on a real world equivalent they would've gone "yeah I did so what?" and laughed about it.
    Which says something, right? People like him IRL are more like comic book supervillains than the villain in a radio show based on a comic book!

    • @andrewgreenwood9068
      @andrewgreenwood9068 11 днів тому

      Fascists are hard villians to write because they are so evil and stupid that they almost always come across as ridiculous

  • @JonathanEzor
    @JonathanEzor Рік тому +35

    Howdy, Steve! I was introduced to The Adventures of Superman radio show in the 1970s when I sent in a bunch of box tops from Kellogg's Corn Flakes and got my 4-LP collection of the first few stories. I agree with you about how wonderful the radio show was. Only years later did I learn that the actors from the radio show, led by Bud Collyer, also voiced the same characters in Filmation's 1960s Superman cartoons.

    • @superinsane1988a
      @superinsane1988a Рік тому

      Well Steve thank you I've never heard a broadcast or recording of the Superman radio show It's like one of those things out of sight out of mind and I'm 58 years old and big time Superman fan going back I was 12 when i started first collecting comic books. And just like you are saying everything then was is relevant now and that's like really scary considering that's how long ago and that there are still Hitler type people in politics Today we're gonna see it in the next Presidential election as well will there be either party Both parties have delusions of grandeur Yes I know that's a Star Wars from han solo but it fits real well.
      Again thank you for enlightening me of the radio show TV. What tyrannic is I had some questions about how Superman was depicted depict it like with the kryptonite and you answered the question like it doesn't really take away his powers or anything not like the kryptonite of now that takes away his powers you explaining that made it clear as water Thank you again

  • @francoislacombe9071
    @francoislacombe9071 Рік тому +49

    I'm fairly certain that Superman's fast ball, especially unrestricted because of his amnesia, would have killed any human catcher in a most gruesome way. 😱

    • @SupercriticalSnake
      @SupercriticalSnake Рік тому +25

      According to xkcd's "What If?" article titled "Relativistic Baseball", if Superman could throw the ball at 90% of the speed of light (approx. 270,000 kilometers per second), the ensuing blast of x-rays and superheated plasma would vaporize an entire stadium and trigger a fireball that destroyed everything within a mile of his pitch.

    • @SteveShives
      @SteveShives  Рік тому +26

      Yes, but could he hit the strike zone?

    • @queenannsrevenge100
      @queenannsrevenge100 Рік тому +4

      @@SupercriticalSnake physics for the win!

    • @AnEnemySpy456
      @AnEnemySpy456 Рік тому +3

      Vaporizing the batter means he gets to go to first base though so it's a bad strategy.

    • @SingularityOrbit
      @SingularityOrbit Рік тому

      @@SteveShives *amongst many, many other things,* yes.

  • @matti.8465
    @matti.8465 Рік тому +17

    I love how he just grabs Batman with his arm and takes him flying. Most versions of him wouldn't let him do that.

  • @miguelvelez7221
    @miguelvelez7221 Рік тому +15

    This story as a lifelong fan of Superman, and of comic book superheroes in general always makes me (irrationally, I know... Sue me.) proud.
    A sybol of fiction that embodies our better angels had real world impact in a fight against bigotry and oppression and was an example to youg people that "evil", isn't cool.
    Literally, guys stopped being Klansmen because kids thought it was stupid.
    And... That's part of why Superman will always be my absolute favorite American superhero.

  • @coomtothebroom778
    @coomtothebroom778 Рік тому +4

    As time goes on and society declines, I appreciate stories based on superheroes fighting corrupt and hate-inspiring public figures.

  • @ivane5110
    @ivane5110 Рік тому +4

    This will always be one of, if not THE, favoriteman show (including cartoons, movies and everything except the silver or bronze age comics) despite my love for George Reeves' and Chris Reeve's portrayals. It has to be how many years I spent with this series. I never marathon listened (well not more than an arc or two). So, despite not realizing atthe time, I lucked out and got to revisit this Superman and his Metropolis more regularly than their's or any others' except the mentioned comics. And the icing on the cake was years after the fact finding out that my other favorite noncomic show (Filmation's Superman series & JLA appearances) were the same voice actor, Bud Collier. But unlike nearly all the others it was such hard-hitting stories like this that really brought the character to life for me. Even this Batman, who was so far down the detective skills scale that he made [insert name of literally any other Batman] seem like Sherlock Holmes, has a place in my heart still these decades later. Great job spotlighting this show. I've hoped for this since you started this series.

  • @michaelsinnreich6626
    @michaelsinnreich6626 Рік тому +10

    It says a lot how this is still so relevant 80 years later

  • @gigangreg7837
    @gigangreg7837 Рік тому +16

    Great video. It would be cool to see you cover more of these radio show villains that Superman faces; the Laugher, the Yellow Mask, etc. There is a tragic dearth of this stuff on UA-cam.

  • @Rubberman202
    @Rubberman202 Рік тому +12

    Huh... and here I thought this video was going to be about the Ultra-Humanite. Still, as someone not familiar with Superman outside of what managed to stick around in pop culture, I found this a very fascinating and enjoyable deep dive into one aspect of Superman's legacy, and a good villain for him to go up against.

  • @ProxyExpy
    @ProxyExpy Рік тому +4

    This shit is why Superman is my favorite superhero. He's such a good boi, and intolerant of racism.

  • @Jogproof
    @Jogproof Рік тому +11

    Gosh It's crazy that the Radio Show is more political than the Bendis/Taylor version of Jon Kent when people constantly praise that run even though he does far less than this Clark all because they want to pretend gay kids don't exist.

  • @ke6nber
    @ke6nber Рік тому +3

    Twice during this video I forgot that I wasn't listening to one of my old time radio Apps. And then I wondered why Steve Shives is suddenly on this OTR show...?
    Good video, Mr. Shives. I do enjoy your work. And have for quite a while.

  • @BobSperber
    @BobSperber Рік тому +4

    Hollywood has been wrestling for decades to try and make Superman interesting and relevant again and failing. They should go back to the roots. This radio show actually has real characterization.

  • @georgesheridan8185
    @georgesheridan8185 Рік тому +6

    DC could bring Latimer back as a stand-in for... someone...

  • @tomatoisjp
    @tomatoisjp Рік тому +2

    This video was surreal for me. I've listened to a smattering of episodes over the years, particularly the beginning of the series and the atom man saga (which were available on cds when i was younger) so i know various supporting cast (like inspector Henderson) and was aware of the kryptonite ending up with the Laugher, but not enough that i was spoiled on either of these tales.

  • @WaitTryFail
    @WaitTryFail Рік тому +19

    Comic book companies should release new radio shows as podcast

    • @CaptRuffino
      @CaptRuffino Рік тому +3

      Luckily they still do! Check out the Batman audio adventures and Sandman.

    • @blueroseknight
      @blueroseknight Рік тому +2

      Marvel released a limited Squirrel Girl series. It was FANTASTIC.

    • @walterhoward5512
      @walterhoward5512 Рік тому +1

      They have a Flash audio drama on HBO Max.

    • @cyber_kariel9197
      @cyber_kariel9197 Рік тому +1

      there's a graphic novel reworking of the Klan of the Iron Cross that's real good

    • @shockwave75
      @shockwave75 Рік тому

      There's a Wolverine story podcast as well.

  • @bokmcdok
    @bokmcdok Рік тому +1

    That part about them not wanting to wait for Superman to starve is especially symbolic. Part of the reason that the Nazis stepped up their execution camps was because the Jews weren't starving to death as quickly as they expected them to.

  • @garbotoxins840
    @garbotoxins840 Рік тому +1

    I think a video on Jack Kirby's Superman would be interesting, with his loneliness in Forever People #1 and Superman's Pal Jimmy Olsen #147, and his legacy in Kamandi #29. Kirby had a lot of respect for the character, and seeing him have a crack at the character was fascinating. For my money, it just might be the best Superman ever.

  • @laikapupkino1767
    @laikapupkino1767 Рік тому +5

    There really was a march by WWI Veteran's that was fired on by police, in 1932 in D.C.; which I'm sure was still pretty fresh in a lot of people's memories when this radio show aired in 1946. They'd been given bonds that they couldn't cash for X number of years, and were demanding they get their money right then, because the Depression had settled in + jobs were scarce. President Hoover ordered them fired on, two died; and the rest were beaten and their encampments trashed to make them disperse. Probably had something to do with FDR getting elected. A fictional villain echoing a despicable act by one from real life. Hoover (who scapegoated Mexican Americans as the cause of the Great Depression + had actual US citizens deported) would fit right in with his descendants in today's GOP; (who would be howling that these radio episodes are the product of this dangerous newfangled invention called WOKENESS if they aired nowadays, nearly 80 years later)

  • @georgesheridan8185
    @georgesheridan8185 Рік тому +3

    The organ stings are beautiful.

  • @moosevelt9148
    @moosevelt9148 Рік тому +3

    Now I want a story where Aquaman collects all of that Kryptonite and tries to kill Superman for illegally dumping it in the oceans, lol
    Also, what was the first radio crossover between Batman and Superman like?!?

  • @jbz4788
    @jbz4788 Рік тому +4

    I knew kryptonite was always weird but I never knew it used to work like that.

  • @joearnold6881
    @joearnold6881 Рік тому +2

    I love Superman, literally the most powerful being around, using tricks and gadgets to defeat regular human.
    They give the mayor who changed sides…
    freaking Romeo & Juliette poison!

  • @MrFilbot
    @MrFilbot Рік тому +2

    It’s goofy that saying “up and away!” Just makes him fly even though he didn’t know he could fly. Like a magic word, open says a me. 😆

  • @RaptorJesus
    @RaptorJesus Рік тому +1

    So wait. Latimer got this knowledge from...the Laugher. And then Superman involves Batman and Robin..
    Did..did the Joker die in prison in this?

  • @stevegeorge6880
    @stevegeorge6880 Рік тому +6

    Given how long my play of the video held on the title card, I assumed we were just going to get an audio podcast for this episode. If you ever decide to do that for videos on the old Superman radio show, perhaps with cracks and squeaks for old-timey radio sound quality, that would be righteous.

  • @TheMikemedia
    @TheMikemedia Рік тому +4

    Hello everyone. Superman here:
    Virtue, integrity, and kindness are good things. Intolerance, discrimination, and small-mindedness are bad.
    Please write this down on a piece of paper, keep it in your wallet, refer to it often, and you too can be Super.

    • @PolarBalcony563
      @PolarBalcony563 9 місяців тому

      This message is brought to you by Vought

  • @Seánasadventure
    @Seánasadventure Рік тому +1

    The Superman radio show is so fun and underrated

  • @richardmark9161
    @richardmark9161 Рік тому +1

    That first scene you played with the governor and George Latimer reminds me of the scenes with the governor and the character of James Taylor in Mr. Smith goes to Washington.

  • @WolfRamAndHart
    @WolfRamAndHart Рік тому +1

    I thought you were going straight to the Ultra-Humanite! He was originally Superman's nemesis, I think in Action Comics 10, before Luther caught on. He's still has quality appearances in the comics and some Justice League animated episodes, but not that well known.

  • @joelbizzell1386
    @joelbizzell1386 Рік тому

    I could listen to you talk about Superman for hours, Steve.

  • @1chiTheKiller
    @1chiTheKiller Рік тому

    I watched this with my high end headphones on, and when the radio segments pop up it was just magical. Sounded absolutely wonderful. :)

  • @Multi_Purpose_Weirdo
    @Multi_Purpose_Weirdo Рік тому +2

    These are the American values we need right now

  • @redangelsophiasvideoproduc92
    @redangelsophiasvideoproduc92 Рік тому +1

    But isn’t it interesting to see the symbiosis between prejudicial hate-groups and labor-and-environment exploiting billionaire capitalists?
    Given that symbiosis - one way to explore it would be if George Latimer (the prejudicial hate-monger) were brought back to team up with Lex Luthor (the labor-and-environment expoiting billionaire capitalist) for Superman to fight against that duo.
    The reason why we will probably never see that has nothing to do with Latimer not being from the DC comic books. There are other DC villains who first appeared in other media and then later made it into the comics - such as Harley Quinn. The _real_ reason why we will never see such a mash-up is because by now, DC is part of a huge corporate conglomerate that is unlikely to ever sign-off on such a story.

  • @williamblakehall5566
    @williamblakehall5566 Рік тому +1

    Steve, thanks for this, this was fascinating.

  • @Kolyarut
    @Kolyarut Рік тому +3

    It's impossible not to grin at that big hero "up, and away!" moment. Seeing a Superman/Batman crossover would be borderline mundane in any other era, but in this media in particular it's actually pretty exciting still. This whole show actually seems to have held up pretty well, aside from that awful baseball stadium organ music. I'm not the biggest fan of John Williams's Superman theme (I like it, but it's quite Golden Age), and obviously it's thirty years too soon for it to feature here, but mentally substituting it into this scene takes it to the next level.

  • @mcdent6034
    @mcdent6034 Рік тому

    Thanks Steve, being born in the late 70’s, I was introduced to Christopher Reeves’ Supes, and was never compelled to look any further into what I felt was a boring 2 dimensional character. This era of supes sounds infinitely more interesting than what I’ve been exposed to

  • @Magnus1964
    @Magnus1964 Рік тому +1

    I always thought “Candy Meyer” was a bizarre name for a tough private eye. It just doesn’t have that film noir vibe. If you said that was your favorite adult entertainer on Bourbon Street, that’d sound about right.

  • @allanolley4874
    @allanolley4874 Рік тому +1

    Wow Batman and Robin show up in Superman vs. Kryptonite and to think they called Avengers: Infinity War the most ambitious crossover in history.

  • @LikeaRolandStone
    @LikeaRolandStone Рік тому

    ❤ that studio set up

  • @se9865
    @se9865 Рік тому +1

    I imagine Superman might have been able to beat Nolan Ryan to the first million dollar contract by a couple decades.

  • @scotttheil7824
    @scotttheil7824 Рік тому

    Thanks Steve for the overview and review. Well Done. Too bad Superman didn't have a crossover with the other radio show that used a DC character, Hop Harrigan.

  • @finnmcool2
    @finnmcool2 Рік тому +3

    I love the implication that bigots have only the loosest hold on reason and sanity.

    • @RadarLakeKosh
      @RadarLakeKosh Рік тому +2

      By "implication," do you mean "fact?"

    • @timtheskeptic1147
      @timtheskeptic1147 Рік тому

      When you're afraid, paranoid and hateful, it takes just a slight push.

  • @jewpac867
    @jewpac867 Рік тому

    Old school Superman went hard, no joke!

  • @ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΑ-ε1ω
    @ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΑ-ε1ω Рік тому +2

    Grim story 😢😢😢😢

  • @ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΑ-ε1ω
    @ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΑ-ε1ω Рік тому +2

    😂😂😂😂😂😂
    I love Clark

  • @glennledrew8347
    @glennledrew8347 10 місяців тому

    As recent years are revealing, apathy and lassitude among the good people is the key to the ascendancy of the bad. We are far enough removed in time from the last cataclysmic push of the authoritarians to have largely forgotten the danger.

  • @michaelmitchell4989
    @michaelmitchell4989 Рік тому +3

    Golly! Superman was woke! 🤓

  • @arrow1414
    @arrow1414 Рік тому

    Would that coersed confession be admissible in court back then let alone now?😅

  • @georgesheridan8185
    @georgesheridan8185 Рік тому

    Where'd you get the t-shirt?

  • @calebleland8390
    @calebleland8390 Рік тому +2

    Wait! You mean to tell me that comics and their related medias have always been woke? Geez, who woulda thought? Oh, yeah, those of us who are actual fans and not idiots.
    And yes, it actually pained me to use the word woke like a common knuckle dragger. I fucking hate that word and what right wingers have done with it.

  • @PrincessOzaline
    @PrincessOzaline Рік тому

    Interesting that they didn't bring in other comic villains, but did bring in other comic heroes. But yeah just like how there was a recent comic inspired by the Clan of the Firey Cross maybe Latimer should get a modern comic too... maybe a sequel? There is a story in the Daring New Adventures of Supergirl that deals with a resurgent Nazi threat. Maybe it's even the best Supergirl ever?

  • @pishposh4506
    @pishposh4506 Рік тому

    How have you not made a Christopher reeve video for this series yet???

  • @stickmangrit
    @stickmangrit Рік тому +4

    it's about Supes v KKK isn't it?

  • @THE_Dodge_Morningstar
    @THE_Dodge_Morningstar Рік тому

    😂Clark Kent was star pitcher Bud Smith.

  • @doggodoggo3000
    @doggodoggo3000 Рік тому +1

    and how

  • @ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΑ-ε1ω
    @ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΑ-ε1ω Рік тому +2

    Well
    You can always count on Batman 😊😊😊

  • @cassiedevereaux-smith3890
    @cassiedevereaux-smith3890 Рік тому

    Same as it ever was....

  • @alfredodedarc
    @alfredodedarc 8 місяців тому

    Trumper- how can he be a fan of such a straight arrow American character and still support Trump? I’m out of here.

  • @superinsane1988a
    @superinsane1988a Рік тому +1

    Well Steve thank you I've never heard a broadcast or recording of the Superman radio show It's like one of those things out of sight out of mind and I'm 58 years old and big time Superman fan going back I was 12 when i started first collecting comic books. And just like you are saying everything then was is relevant now and that's like really scary considering that's how long ago and that there are still Hitler type people in politics Today we're gonna see it in the next Presidential election as well will there be either party Both parties have delusions of grandeur Yes I know that's a Star Wars from han solo but it fits real well.
    Again thank you for enlightening me of the radio show TV. What tyrannic is I had some questions about how Superman was depicted depict it like with the kryptonite and you answered the question like it doesn't really take away his powers or anything not like the kryptonite of now that takes away his powers you explaining that made it clear as water Thank you again