For anyone who wishes to know, Kil'jaeden with Myra's has a simple interaction. Kil'jaeden's portal is a 30 card deck of random demons that refreshes each time a card is drawn. Myra's would draw 30 cards, and then refresh the deck. This also means that Fanottem would be a 30 mana card at the start of each turn with Kil'jaeden.
Fanottem will always be 30, since it refills immediately to 30 after you draw. So you could play Myra's, Fanottem drops to 0, but then immediately the deck refills to 30 as the effect resolves.
To be fair to the HS devs, V-07-TR-0N was a raid boss in Wrath of the Lich King, so the on the noseness was before their time & that boss fight was tight.
Suggestion for Rarran: in addition to the Hearthstone cards on screen, try to also put the Card that the guest is referring to on their game. For example, in this video at 22:30 CGB cites some Magic cards, it would have been good if they also appeared alongside Lumia
Zeph's wish triggering Covert that badly was the gift I didn't know I wanted in 2024. Dude hadn't even figure out what the card did and had a full past trauma melt down of a wish IRL that didn't come true.
I dont really know if Rarran thought about it, but showing a short 10-20 second video with what a specific card does (in this case Zephrys) will greatly decrease the amount of explaining he has to do, plus other benefits. /decrease, sorry
Agreed, and as you said it would have other benefits aside from just the explanation, a lot of cards are really cool in concept but it's the animation and the visuals that bring the whole thing together, like with the ryecleaver.
Love these videos. Something that might be cool in the future would be to show CGB and the viewers a GIF or something of the card being played, like Ryecleaver and Avatar of Hearthstone. Partly for clarity but also because some are just cool.
So far that's my favourite series on UA-cam this year. I cannot describe how much I love the trio of Mr.R, CGB and Cimo. You guys are so charismatic in a calming way, if that's makes sense. Keep it up! ❤
Mark already made a video where he gave the opponent Kil'Jaeden so he could mill them enough that they mill while the portal is empty before the game checks the portal and refills it.
Cunning Wish just sounds like the remote duel experience during early Covid where setups weren’t standardized so people would just slip side deck cards into their hand
I play Lumia in Reno Paladin in Wild. As it turns out stuff like Quest Warlock really struggle at dealing with the card. It basically turns their deck off, if you time it well.
You *can* actually draw enough cards in one effect to fatigue even with Kiljaden's Portal in Wild. Mark demonstrated it in a video for those curious to see that "fatigue protection" nullified. = )
32:20 you can actualy cheat the ceaseess expanse with its battecry thanks to murmur (Your Battlecry minions cost (1), but immediately die after being played.)
If they reintroduced the Duels Mode with the anniversary cards like Avatar of Hearthstone, Bob the Bartender, the Gift cards and the Epic Neutral spells as their own Expansion then I’m sure it would be everywhere in Duels especially considering Paladin had a 5 cost Spell Signature Treasure that turned all of your minions in hand, deck, field and those that are summoned into 3 mana 3,3’s then it would be used as often as possible to the point they either ban the card from the format or the anniversary set itself wouldn’t appear as an option at all.
38:12 that's not what mechanically happens: 1) deck is gone and replaced with 30 random demons 2) each turn do it again with new bonus 3) you can still fatigue if you draw over 30.
@@abrvalg321 Each instance, not turn. Myra's will draw all 30, then as soon as it resolves the deck goes back to 30. This also means in order to hit fatigue, you need to draw 30+ in a single action.
The think about Ceaseless Expanse is that it gets cheaper really quickly. Which imo is easy to tell, just some quick math: If players play an average of 30 cards over 10 turns (that's low for modern HS), and draw 30 cards between both players over 10 turns, and also 20 minions die (1 on each side per turn, on average), then Ceaseless Expanse will already be reduced by 80. That's a slow game of HS by modern standards. Just add 1-2 more turns, and it's playable. Then you get a 0 mana board-wipe that also comes with a 15/15. All of that was low balling it. From what I have seen, Ceaseless Expanse will usually be playable around turn 11. Sometimes later, but I have also seen turn 9.
Commander is a great format to play casually with friends. There's also plenty of websites that let you print out proxies of your cards so you don't have to give hasbro money for expensive cardboard
Hey Rarran, cool video like always! I think its would be nice to add important context for zephrus for yours future guests - while its obviously was insanely strong and cool, but it wasn`t broken, like people from outside can think, BECAUSE of basic and classic card pool limit, and this cards can be good or okay, but from approximately 2021 year they are kinda slow, so in terms of power lvl zeph is absolutely fair, not even busted. Thx for CGB on channel, hope to see him more!
The only issue with the card is it costs 6. It basically has super taunt that heals you for at least 9 (unless they have something that does more than 9 damage in one swing they are literally wasting their time going face). It's also honestly "big enough" that it's usually really inconvenient or not possible to kill through straight up damage from spells.
@@amethonys2798 Could be good with rush, really good with charge. Instant removal + 9 HP swing (meaning you are now much less likely to die from a single hit), with pseudo taunt. Probably way too big of a swing though against aggro.
The YY algorithm has become really obnoxious about where it places ads nowadays. But it put one right after CGB made that noise from reading Myra's, and that is the funniest thing I have seen in weeks.
One of the most fun videos to watch. I think such cards that have really interesting effects and gets you excited, what you could do with them is one of the best things about hearthstone. Still so many more to show, maybe in a second part? Did he see mechacathun already?
Kiljaden is such an interesting card. It can only played in an extreme state of the game. Either the game has to be super slow so u can benefit the infinite value or super fast that u consistently reach fatigue and need an out
"Draw until you have 10 cards, then destroy your deck," may not sound nearly as impressive as "Draw the rest of your deck" but it's still pretty great.
I used to run a not very good Rogue Mimiron's Head deck with conceal to get the proc and then cold blood and tinker's sharpsword oil to get enough damage on it for the OHKO. Very fun deck, won more than I lost with it, usually it was a mech yeti and an antique healbot surviving or similar that I could then throw Mimiron's Head and Conceal onto. Didn't take it very high though, obviously. While I can't argue if it's strong enough for current Hearthstone, Lumia looks strong as a single card power level compared to old legendaries. I don't think it looks any worse than Rag Lightlord or Boom, mainly from coming out so much faster.
I run Lumia in my wild Highlander Paladin list. Yes it dies to removal. Coupled with Spirit of the Badlands, you could play multiple copies. The effect shuts down damage-based combo decks. At the very least, when played at the right time, this has saved me by stalling out at least 1 turn, maybe 2 if they don't spend their turn removing it. Decent for control, good counter for combos, but very niche in it's application.
Dunno what you have, Lumia is actually a pretty good card. It is/was very good in libram paladin. To be fair libram paladin isnt an insane deck, but got me to legend tho. And Lumia was a pretty fk good card there, because it stopped many more aggresive decks :)
Murloc Holmes is very similar to the Yugioh card Mind Crush (guess if a card is in your opponent hand and if it is they have to discard it), where you can either wait for the opponent to play/add stuff to their hand or if you're a meta slave do an educated guess right away.
The clowns who released Entomb (Priest card) and Djinn of Zephyrs (for buff Priest) in the same Adventure of only two dozenish cards, and didn't fix them maybe EVER... also made Zephrys somehow. Context; Djinn duplicates spells cast by you on FRIENDLY minions. Entomb shuffled an ENEMY minion into your deck. For no reason at all, their spaghetti code felt that the target of Entomb was "friendly" and as such Djinn would also shuffle himself into your deck. It was never fixed before both rotated, and maybe not ever. It really is giving monkeys typewriters and they'll eventually produce Shakespeare for the fact that Zephrys worked and without major issues.
You should totally have CGB rate Hearthstone's board wipes at some point. He's definitely seen a couple, but I bet stuff like Blood Boil and Psychic Scream would be his jam
Rarran hasn't seen MarkMckz fatigue an opponent that played Kil'Jaeden. If you can make your opponent draw all 30 demons and enough fatigue damage to kill them all within a single card effect you win.
I would love if they put Majordomo in the next core set but removed the health effect so your health doesn’t change when it’s effect triggered. Would probably be playable
Executus was actually playable in wild. Rogues would cheat it out, play Tess, Tess would replay ALL cards they played this game which would include Shadowstep to bring Tess back and whatchamacallit give your hero stealth for one turn. From there you would simply spend the entire game untargetable and dishing out 8 damage shots.
Speaking of Mechs one card you could consider showing in the future is Fel Cannon, my favorite HS card. I think it'd be interesting to see how non-HS players evaluate it.
So getting wishing well with replicating spore is really bad. UNLESS you also get cash cow. One game i got 2 cash cows and a wishing well for my spores. Won the game with ease after that, every spore would generate me 2 random legendaries
I would kill for alchemy cards to be wacky like this. Juggle the performance and ominous lockbox feel like they're getting close to that but man hearthstone cards really are uh, out there lmao
Poor old man CGB. First he was subjected to the terrifying power of Tearlaments by Cimo, then he was introduced to the power of A.I. with Zephrys.
rarran singlehandedly keeping hearthstone alive
For real, I tried watching Kripp and the others play bazaar but it just doesn't grab or keep my attention like Hearthstone still does.
This gets commented like on every video 5 times lmao but I agree honestly
Nah
hearthstone is long gone but rarran is forever
@kekech lol cope
People from other card games, specifically paper tcgs, reading Zephyrs for the first time has quickly become one of my favorite things to hear
For anyone who wishes to know, Kil'jaeden with Myra's has a simple interaction. Kil'jaeden's portal is a 30 card deck of random demons that refreshes each time a card is drawn. Myra's would draw 30 cards, and then refresh the deck. This also means that Fanottem would be a 30 mana card at the start of each turn with Kil'jaeden.
Fanottem will always be 30, since it refills immediately to 30 after you draw. So you could play Myra's, Fanottem drops to 0, but then immediately the deck refills to 30 as the effect resolves.
Mark has shown you can fatigue someone with the Demon Portal tho.
@@trypich8121 Yes, but you need to draw more than 30 cards in a turn. Otherwise, it gets refilled back to 30.
What happens if you kil'jaeden and next turn play Jailor?
The knower of things! 🏆 based king
To be fair to the HS devs, V-07-TR-0N was a raid boss in Wrath of the Lich King, so the on the noseness was before their time & that boss fight was tight.
The look on magicthegatheringman's face once he learns what Zephrys actually does 😂
5:32
Pretty sure his name is Mesa Falcon Guy
I need a side by side of Cimo’s reaction and CGB’s
That's mesa falcon guy to you
I looooove Zephrys best card design ever made ✋😘👌
Lumia is played in Holy Wrath Paladin in wild and is an absolute powerhouse in that deck which often secures the win as a second form of Time-out.
Suggestion for Rarran: in addition to the Hearthstone cards on screen, try to also put the Card that the guest is referring to on their game. For example, in this video at 22:30 CGB cites some Magic cards, it would have been good if they also appeared alongside Lumia
I agree
these three really hit the jackpot with this video format
I fully expected this to be blue spiraling about zephrys for 50 minutes
Zeph's wish triggering Covert that badly was the gift I didn't know I wanted in 2024. Dude hadn't even figure out what the card did and had a full past trauma melt down of a wish IRL that didn't come true.
It's 2025.
But otherwise I agree, *entirely*
I dont really know if Rarran thought about it, but showing a short 10-20 second video with what a specific card does (in this case Zephrys) will greatly decrease the amount of explaining he has to do, plus other benefits.
/decrease, sorry
Agreed, and as you said it would have other benefits aside from just the explanation, a lot of cards are really cool in concept but it's the animation and the visuals that bring the whole thing together, like with the ryecleaver.
Decrease you mean.
Exactly, my bod. I edited
Super good idea👍
Watching Rarran absolutely lose his shit at CGB desperately trying to comprehend Rycleaver is the best thing I've ever seen
I think CGB didn't understand Ceaseless also discounted from any minion dying, including tokens
I also don't think he realized it counts cards from both players.
Love these videos. Something that might be cool in the future would be to show CGB and the viewers a GIF or something of the card being played, like Ryecleaver and Avatar of Hearthstone. Partly for clarity but also because some are just cool.
Man i wish these videos were weekly. such a good content just talking about cards with these fun reactions/discussions.
I want them daily lmao (I know that's not feasible, I just love it). This is my favourite content on UA-cam right now.
19:45, "in terms of like flavour" HAH. Flavour. It's a sandwich.
So far that's my favourite series on UA-cam this year. I cannot describe how much I love the trio of Mr.R, CGB and Cimo. You guys are so charismatic in a calming way, if that's makes sense. Keep it up! ❤
I don't think CGB realized Ceaseless Expanse counts your opponent's things too.
19:40 sometimes HS just says "fk it just play it 1 time and you will know how it works" and i love it for that
Mark already made a video where he gave the opponent Kil'Jaeden so he could mill them enough that they mill while the portal is empty before the game checks the portal and refills it.
Cunning Wish just sounds like the remote duel experience during early Covid where setups weren’t standardized so people would just slip side deck cards into their hand
I play Lumia in Reno Paladin in Wild. As it turns out stuff like Quest Warlock really struggle at dealing with the card. It basically turns their deck off, if you time it well.
You should try to collab with mark and show your guests the combo pieces and have them guess what the combo is
^^^^^ this!!
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Really good idea!
You *can* actually draw enough cards in one effect to fatigue even with Kiljaden's Portal in Wild. Mark demonstrated it in a video for those curious to see that "fatigue protection" nullified. = )
A short where you side by side Cimooooo and CGB’s reactions to Zepherys would go crazy LOL
CGB's palpable joy and confusion is so contagious. It's exactly what I needed to see today.
32:20 you can actualy cheat the ceaseess expanse with its battecry thanks to murmur (Your Battlecry minions cost (1), but immediately die after being played.)
If they reintroduced the Duels Mode with the anniversary cards like Avatar of Hearthstone, Bob the Bartender, the Gift cards and the Epic Neutral spells as their own Expansion then I’m sure it would be everywhere in Duels especially considering Paladin had a 5 cost Spell Signature Treasure that turned all of your minions in hand, deck, field and those that are summoned into 3 mana 3,3’s then it would be used as often as possible to the point they either ban the card from the format or the anniversary set itself wouldn’t appear as an option at all.
38:12 that's not what mechanically happens:
1) deck is gone and replaced with 30 random demons
2) each turn do it again with new bonus
3) you can still fatigue if you draw over 30.
You don't get a new deck every turn but every demon you draw gets replaced at the end of the draw phase
@@abrvalg321 Each instance, not turn. Myra's will draw all 30, then as soon as it resolves the deck goes back to 30. This also means in order to hit fatigue, you need to draw 30+ in a single action.
@@SunbleachedAngel the 30 demons change every turn, no matter how many you drew in a turn. The full 30 pool resets every turn to give it the bonus.
8 minutes of Rarran licking Zephrys' toes and I eat it right up. Zephrys is my favorite card ever designed. What an OG.
Interaction with Myra's and Killjaiden is that it draws 10 demons then shows 20 demons destroyed and then you still have endless portal...
The think about Ceaseless Expanse is that it gets cheaper really quickly. Which imo is easy to tell, just some quick math: If players play an average of 30 cards over 10 turns (that's low for modern HS), and draw 30 cards between both players over 10 turns, and also 20 minions die (1 on each side per turn, on average), then Ceaseless Expanse will already be reduced by 80.
That's a slow game of HS by modern standards. Just add 1-2 more turns, and it's playable. Then you get a 0 mana board-wipe that also comes with a 15/15.
All of that was low balling it. From what I have seen, Ceaseless Expanse will usually be playable around turn 11. Sometimes later, but I have also seen turn 9.
Never ever going to touch Magic with a 10 foot stick, but CGB's reactions are always hilarious! Definitely a solid dude
I've already lost, already bought 3 commander decks since the rarran/cgb collabs started 😭😭🙏🙏
Commander is a great format to play casually with friends. There's also plenty of websites that let you print out proxies of your cards so you don't have to give hasbro money for expensive cardboard
Hey Rarran, cool video like always! I think its would be nice to add important context for zephrus for yours future guests - while its obviously was insanely strong and cool, but it wasn`t broken, like people from outside can think, BECAUSE of basic and classic card pool limit, and this cards can be good or okay, but from approximately 2021 year they are kinda slow, so in terms of power lvl zeph is absolutely fair, not even busted. Thx for CGB on channel, hope to see him more!
Rarran needs to show them Puzzlemaster Khadgar too
I've seen Lumia randomly pop out of more Gorgonzormus than be played from hand.
The only issue with the card is it costs 6. It basically has super taunt that heals you for at least 9 (unless they have something that does more than 9 damage in one swing they are literally wasting their time going face). It's also honestly "big enough" that it's usually really inconvenient or not possible to kill through straight up damage from spells.
@@amethonys2798 Could be good with rush, really good with charge. Instant removal + 9 HP swing (meaning you are now much less likely to die from a single hit), with pseudo taunt. Probably way too big of a swing though against aggro.
The YY algorithm has become really obnoxious about where it places ads nowadays. But it put one right after CGB made that noise from reading Myra's, and that is the funniest thing I have seen in weeks.
One of the most fun videos to watch. I think such cards that have really interesting effects and gets you excited, what you could do with them is one of the best things about hearthstone. Still so many more to show, maybe in a second part?
Did he see mechacathun already?
Kiljaden is such an interesting card. It can only played in an extreme state of the game. Either the game has to be super slow so u can benefit the infinite value or super fast that u consistently reach fatigue and need an out
Every vid with cgb is a banger
"Draw until you have 10 cards, then destroy your deck," may not sound nearly as impressive as "Draw the rest of your deck" but it's still pretty great.
Before they nerfed Pipsi, Lumia saw play in Pipsi Paladin (late Perils in Paradise meta). It actually did work in that deck to keep you alive.
I've had a fair deck with Lumia in Highlander Paladin, playing multiple a game can really mess up the tempo of your enemy
Lumia was played in pip paladin before the deck was killed by nerfing two of the most important cards in the deck
I used to run a not very good Rogue Mimiron's Head deck with conceal to get the proc and then cold blood and tinker's sharpsword oil to get enough damage on it for the OHKO. Very fun deck, won more than I lost with it, usually it was a mech yeti and an antique healbot surviving or similar that I could then throw Mimiron's Head and Conceal onto. Didn't take it very high though, obviously.
While I can't argue if it's strong enough for current Hearthstone, Lumia looks strong as a single card power level compared to old legendaries. I don't think it looks any worse than Rag Lightlord or Boom, mainly from coming out so much faster.
I run Lumia in my wild Highlander Paladin list. Yes it dies to removal. Coupled with Spirit of the Badlands, you could play multiple copies. The effect shuts down damage-based combo decks. At the very least, when played at the right time, this has saved me by stalling out at least 1 turn, maybe 2 if they don't spend their turn removing it. Decent for control, good counter for combos, but very niche in it's application.
I don’t think CGB realized that The Ceaseless Expanse gets discounted from opponent’s game actions as well.
Dunno what you have, Lumia is actually a pretty good card. It is/was very good in libram paladin. To be fair libram paladin isnt an insane deck, but got me to legend tho. And Lumia was a pretty fk good card there, because it stopped many more aggresive decks :)
I've stopped playing hearthstone now. Rarran;s content is enough to scratch that cardgame itch once in a while.
Murloc Holmes is very similar to the Yugioh card Mind Crush (guess if a card is in your opponent hand and if it is they have to discard it), where you can either wait for the opponent to play/add stuff to their hand or if you're a meta slave do an educated guess right away.
not showing CGB mimiron gathering animation was biggest mistake! :D
One overlooked weakness that zeph had was he often undervalued the importance of secret removal which was really annoying when secret hunter was meta.
The clowns who released Entomb (Priest card) and Djinn of Zephyrs (for buff Priest) in the same Adventure of only two dozenish cards, and didn't fix them maybe EVER... also made Zephrys somehow. Context; Djinn duplicates spells cast by you on FRIENDLY minions. Entomb shuffled an ENEMY minion into your deck. For no reason at all, their spaghetti code felt that the target of Entomb was "friendly" and as such Djinn would also shuffle himself into your deck. It was never fixed before both rotated, and maybe not ever.
It really is giving monkeys typewriters and they'll eventually produce Shakespeare for the fact that Zephrys worked and without major issues.
Suprised Rarran didn't show him Holy wrath ceaseless combo
You should totally have CGB rate Hearthstone's board wipes at some point. He's definitely seen a couple, but I bet stuff like Blood Boil and Psychic Scream would be his jam
5:20 correction it will look at the number of cards in both players hands and how much mana they have as well.
Rarran hasn't seen MarkMckz fatigue an opponent that played Kil'Jaeden. If you can make your opponent draw all 30 demons and enough fatigue damage to kill them all within a single card effect you win.
I would love if they put Majordomo in the next core set but removed the health effect so your health doesn’t change when it’s effect triggered. Would probably be playable
Hey Rarran, this video format is amazing. Please don't stop with it, thank you dude:)
Zephrys could be anything! Even Fireball!
No way Sancazel is better than Greybough or Rocket Hopper or even Doomguard. Rarran not a true spore connoisseur smh my head
The whole setup of two experts in their own respective fields evaluating each other's things is so satisfying
SEE! GEE! BEE!
wait, wrong interviewer
Shout-out to Cimo!
i wish he pointed out it is both players for Ceaseless Expanse
Seing people's reaction to Zephyrs is always the best part
Yay new covertgoblue and Rarran video! My day just got better
rarran and cgb best duo on youtube
Executus was actually playable in wild. Rogues would cheat it out, play Tess, Tess would replay ALL cards they played this game which would include Shadowstep to bring Tess back and whatchamacallit give your hero stealth for one turn. From there you would simply spend the entire game untargetable and dishing out 8 damage shots.
Boulderfist Ogre.
I refuse to believe it's been this long as CGB hasn't seen Zeph. There's just no way, he had to have been brought up by now
I don't play classic HS or even arena anymore, but I really enjoy these videos!
Mimimron's head worked in the time portal deck.
For the whole play, Moldara should have been a 5 mana cost too, just for the fun of only being about the number 5
Speaking of Mechs one card you could consider showing in the future is Fel Cannon, my favorite HS card. I think it'd be interesting to see how non-HS players evaluate it.
"You can no longer fatigue" I think Mark has some disagreements with you sir
When can I play The Bazaar can someone tell me???
I forgot Lumia was a real card that just came out.
Sometimes I wish rarran had little videos to show how the cards work especially for something like murloc holmes
7:06 Now imagine this statement if Zenonzard didn't shut down
feel like moldara was a druid card that they just gave to warrior to make the druid warrior tourist card work for druid decks
CGB trying to parse the ryecleaver was the least well-spoken I've ever seen him be rofl
I don't think CGB caught that Ceaseless counts BOTH players given he thought it would only be discounted to 60.
let's goooo i love these vids & magicthegatheringman is my fav guest
Can't believe CGB would throw shade on our man Voltron!
ty Rarran for this blessing of a video
I just saw Moldara in a starship warrior list
I genuinely thought Lumia was a fake card, i have never seen it played or even randomly summoned
The video we've all been waiting for.
Rarran still traumatized by getting sanc'azeled 1st time he played against replicating spores
We're so back!
Should’ve also showed him new Zephrys
Sanc'Azel is exactly what I thought YuGiOh "pendulum" would be about (spoilers: it isn't)
So getting wishing well with replicating spore is really bad. UNLESS you also get cash cow. One game i got 2 cash cows and a wishing well for my spores. Won the game with ease after that, every spore would generate me 2 random legendaries
If you replace your deck with the demon portal and play Myra's - what happens?
I'd be curious to see this format with Bazaar.
I would kill for alchemy cards to be wacky like this.
Juggle the performance and ominous lockbox feel like they're getting close to that but man hearthstone cards really are uh, out there lmao
Does somebody have a link for CGB's sweatshirt? Looks pretty cool
One month late for a New Year, still a great gift!
Rarran not talking about Nomi when showing Myra's had me disapointed :(