If you think about it, all four movies, in a weird way, have to be canon or connected in some strange events. Depending on where it connects. So, if the first movie is canon, than it fits in somewhere after the 3rd season or just ‘fits’ in as a missing memory of the events that have happen. I could be wrong, but that’s what I’m kinda thinking from remembering from watching these movies.
Actually could fit into the timeline in a rather funny way. It would happen after the soul society arc (Bount arc in the anime), and it would happen just before the Arrancars start showing up, because Rukia has her powers back. So why would Ichigo not recall seeing Rukia after SS/the Bounts until they reunite in the Arrancar arc? Because everyone’s memories revolving around the Blanks were erased due to Senna’s sacrifice. A tiny bit of a stretch, sure. But it’s likely Rukia was sent to the world of the living due to an influx of hollows from the blanks wandering around. Thus making her appearance in the movie related to the blanks therefore erasing the memories of her going to the world of The Living during that period of time. 😊 And that’s how it fits into the anime’s continuity and the manga’s canon! 👍🏼
I've always loved Senna! When I first saw her and she flies into the air summoning her staff and shoots a tornado with flowing maple leaves. Just beautiful.
Kubo said Senna is supposed to be Renji and Rukia’s daughter in an alternate timeline, which explains why she looks almost identical to Ichika with a swapped color scheme.
@lelapinenterre you made me teary eyed 🥲 that's so sweet. I'm glad she gets to live on through another character ❤ though I hope a flashy character with abilities like Senna joins the cast. Something about her staff and tornadoes is so cool
You can consider all Bleach movies something that could happen in the manga story. If it was One Piece, you would have all that material included in the story as different arcs
Actually Kubo himself said that he prefers the Ulquiorra and Vasto Lorde Ichigo fight in the opening of Hell Verse to the Anime and only drew it the way he did because of quota issues regarding Shonen Jump. He also provided concept art for how he thought it should be
@@nicolaemihai3581not necessarily, diamond dust rebellion directly contradicts the main story and facts that we know about how zanpakuto work, also it just doesn’t fit anywhere. As for fade to black, it doesn’t really have a place in the story and there’s no where we can find to properly fit it into the timeline. Hell verse movie has been stated to be 0% cannon by kubo because he really hates how it was executed and only likes the intro 😂
@@owlflameI agree with the movies but believing now that it's Canon when not believing it before doesn't make sense to me. A friend of mine lirerally said to me "you were right the movie events are canon" I said "buddy i showed you the panels years ago and you said that doesn't prove anything." 😂
Best Bleach movie imo. Heart-gripping story, memorable character in Senna, and the action in it wasn’t bad either. Seemed like a cool short filler arc; I even like that Ichigo didn’t need to use his Hollow mask to defeat Ganryū
@@soulslayergamer2318 Personally I watch the movie right after SS arc in my head cannon. That way it seems like Aizen still is building his army and we can see what Ichigo can do on his own without his hollow interference (like in the Arrancar arc). Plus it makes it seem random when it does happen
@@shirosaki15 Question 407 (2022.11.07) Will Ichika’s Zanpakutō turn out to be Mirokumaru, the same one owned by Senna? A: That won’t happen. They’re two different people and Mirokumaru isn’t a name I came up with.
@ironclad-m3q According to the interview included in Bleach Artbook JET, Senna's design is actually the design that Kubo was thinking of when making Rukia and Renji's child; he notes that she is like their child from a parallel universe and that the only thing different about Ichika Abarai is her color scheme. Guess I was wrong, but not too far off got them mixed up😅
I love how these two were shown to correlate one another in the source material yearsss ago but thanks to Kubo’s well-needed and gifted additional detail can finally forges them seamlessly together very nicely
Just seeing Senna's face brought back so many fun memories but also the ending. Watched it a few years after it came out and I thought it was just gonna be awesome fighting, I was not ready for her heart clutching story.
@@the_psycho536 Thats hilarious to think about. I can just imagine Ichigo saying "Hey Rukia, remember when we fought all those Blanks and had to stop some guy from using the... thing? And save... Person?"
I love the panel that it's so easily referencing Senna with her scarf and the leaves my jaw practically dropped when it showed that part in the episode.
It's been known that Kubo likes getting his grubby little hands in all the bleach products because he loves his world building. Hell Arc COULD be special for Kubo to look at everything he's written and finally define what is and what's not canon.
It only proves how incredibly complicated bleach's story and lore are also it proves how god damn powerful the verse is because now the whole movie is confirmed canon every single feat and statement of every single character in that movie becomes ture. Damn , kubo really is creating history with this anmie.
@@PopsRBleach has the least complex power system and world in all of shonen, yet has the most complex powers of individuals and locations out of all of them. Finally JJK, Naruto and One piece fans will shut up.
I think Ichigo remembers her now though seeing as he knows he went to the Valley of screams and how unpleasant it was. Possibly due to the soul king training.
I have a simple theory - I like Bleach so I watched all movies, fillers, non canon manga chapters and light novel and kubo sensei made everything gold for us 😊
fun fact: in one of the filler episodes there's a cameo of senna ! i can't remember which episode, but the gang was in a café and on the table behind them the back of her head showed.
I adore Kubo taking inspiration from others to build on his own material. This also happened with Shunsui's Zanpakuto spirit which were an anime original.
Well if I recall correctly, in the movie multiple people stated that they all will lose their memories of the female Soul Reaper because she is part of that area. So essentially the movie’s events technically happened but everyone forgot about it due to how entities from the Valley of Screams aren’t supposed to exist. It reminds me of the Nobodies from Kingdom Hearts, they aren’t supposed to exist but the empty bodies of people still persist to exist despite not having a heart anymore.
Exactly, idk how people miss this Senna didn't actually exist so the memory of her was lost. Atleast to everyone who saw her except Ichigo, so it makes perfect sense as to why the movie doesn't get referenced in the Manga or anime until now.
@ I was hoping I remembered that correctly. The Valley of Screams became more prominent because Aizen destroyed the Cleaner entirely in the Dangai. I remember that being the main cause for the events of the movie.
@@movespammerguyteam7colorsAizen didn't destroy the Cleaner by the time the movie came out. The movie takes place between Soul Society arc and Arrancar arc, whereas Aizen destroyed the Cleaner (it came back a week later) during Deicide arc. Of course, the canon events of the movie/Shinenju Incident could be tweaked to better fit the timeline somewhat so who knows.
The only part I don't like is Urahara saying people dont retain any memories when they cross over. The boy from the cockatiel, Rukia, and Rukia's sister all did.
@kanyerahming I'll rephrase. The video says that only the anime, with the mid-episode screen, references movie 1. But the manga already did that with Ichigo telling Riruka that he's already been to the Valley of Screams.
Kubo is consolidating all the Bleach lore, plugging the plot holes and making all the necessary changes and retcons before Hell arc. He's really cooking Hell arc to be something phenomenal.
Kubo liked the movie so much he retroactively declared it canon. He even modeled Ichika Abarai's design after Senna. This is in stark contrast to the Hell verse movie that was supposed to be canon ahead of time, but they didn't stay true to Kubo's vision of Hell, so he's taking it upon himself in a Bleach continuation. The Hell Arc which we only have one chapter of so far.
@ I think Ichigo saying that he’s been to the kyogoku is enough he’s never been shown to be there in the series besides in the memories of nobody movie it’s common sense
@@OvercookedOmlette The post card for episode 32 literally says he went to the valley of screams for the Shinenju who was Senna, the events of the film happened around the time Ichigo and the gang are training to fight Aizen
Kubo not only giving fans exactly what they want but also completely fixing the issues with being rushed at the last arc. Dang its good to be an anime only fan
id say make all movies canon, theyre addition to lore and can be considered lost memories anyways,like the memorie wipe in the first movie and the 3rd best movie...
Why is everyone glossing over the fact that Ichigo himself told Riruka that he's been to the Valley of Screams? That never happened in the anime.. So it's definite proof that the movie is canon.
It was actually really well done how it was written in to show people that movie 1 was canon and the dialogue was tied in with a cute Riruka moment- where Ichigo acknowledges that she really had to try to contain the Valley pocket because she can usually only use her ability on things she likes.
Ichigo did say he went to the Valley of scream in the manga as well, With Kubo telling people to go watch the 1st movie. It's been canon for 8 years now.
Diamon dust has been stated by kubo to be non canon and impossible because nobody can have the same zanpukto at the same point. I.e no two hiyroumaros at once.
@@Longbow6625 That was Noriyuki Abe’s doing not Kubo’s, Kubo himself said he was hated the arc and it’s the reason he was involved with the anime more often, he said it in a Klub outside interview.
Kubo did actually say that most of the Bleach movies are actually canon. As hard as it is for most people to see that. They actually took place in the middle of most arcs.
He literally hints and said this is one of his only movies he considers cannon except for the fight scene in the hell movie with ichigos vs ukiora( I can't remember how to sell his name)
I mean this is no surprise because I remember the Bount Arc character Jin Kariya showing up later in the following arc in Ichigo's flashback if I remember correctly. So even an awful filler arc can be deemed canon in anime.
Kubo has fit bits of non canon material into the manga and make some of it canon. Toshiro's glimpse into his backstory of how he heard Hyorinmaru is part of the manga yet that scene was in the Zanpakuto rebellion arc which was non canon filler, other than the Zanpakuto designs drawn by Kubo himself. We are lucky he puts tiny details like this into bleach, it's a treasure for us old time bleach fans who recognize it.
I mean something that is a canon component of the series doesn't exactly make the film canon. Hellverse, Strong World, you get the point. I think there should just be an official statement "Yes this is canon to the manga" like for Naruto: The Last...
Senna was, and still is, best girl. It broke my heart a little bit when Ichigo told her that she had a gravestone when she didnt. I'm happy that she is canon now, but sad that it doesn't matter much because she basically got erased from existence.
Kubo is gathering all his past lore and is fixing the canon.
The man, is cooking hard.
Kubo: ✍🏻✍🏻🔥🔥
Let him cook 🗣️🔥🔥🔥
If you think about it, all four movies, in a weird way, have to be canon or connected in some strange events. Depending on where it connects. So, if the first movie is canon, than it fits in somewhere after the 3rd season or just ‘fits’ in as a missing memory of the events that have happen. I could be wrong, but that’s what I’m kinda thinking from remembering from watching these movies.
The 1st movie doesn't fit in with the continuity of the timeline, lore wise it does.
Actually could fit into the timeline in a rather funny way. It would happen after the soul society arc (Bount arc in the anime), and it would happen just before the Arrancars start showing up, because Rukia has her powers back.
So why would Ichigo not recall seeing Rukia after SS/the Bounts until they reunite in the Arrancar arc? Because everyone’s memories revolving around the Blanks were erased due to Senna’s sacrifice.
A tiny bit of a stretch, sure. But it’s likely Rukia was sent to the world of the living due to an influx of hollows from the blanks wandering around. Thus making her appearance in the movie related to the blanks therefore erasing the memories of her going to the world of The Living during that period of time. 😊
And that’s how it fits into the anime’s continuity and the manga’s canon! 👍🏼
Also the whole image in that panel screamed Senna…IM SO HAPPY!
Senna? The soundtrack?
@@neevhingrajia3822 The Senna soundtrack is main theme of the character from the movie
@@Alex_Scher Right, I must've forgotten that lol, cuz I mainly remember it from when it played whenever Rukia used her zanpakuto
@@neevhingrajia3822- Yeah, it was later repurposed after the movie as a little theme for both Rukia and ‘moments of surprise’ in general 😊
@@DannyShaq26 Oh is that right? Damn does that soundtrack slap hard tho, gave me goosebumps the first time I heard it
Ichigo himself told riruka that he's been there and the valley of screams is anything but cute
SENNA IS REAL 😭😭😭😭 MY HAPPINESS WAS IMMEASURABLE AND MY DAY WAS MADE
But still she is gone now.😭😭😭
@@Aizen_99999 she's a normal human now, when she died as shinigami she reincarnated to a human
@@valentdsshe never was a soul reaper
@@valentdsno she was nothing from the start she just appeared and then she is completely gone now back to nothing
She reincarnated as ichika
I've always loved Senna! When I first saw her and she flies into the air summoning her staff and shoots a tornado with flowing maple leaves. Just beautiful.
Kubo said Senna is supposed to be Renji and Rukia’s daughter in an alternate timeline, which explains why she looks almost identical to Ichika with a swapped color scheme.
@lelapinenterre you made me teary eyed 🥲 that's so sweet. I'm glad she gets to live on through another character ❤
though I hope a flashy character with abilities like Senna joins the cast. Something about her staff and tornadoes is so cool
I was under the impression for years that memories of nobody is the only cannon bleach movie.
You can consider all Bleach movies something that could happen in the manga story. If it was One Piece, you would have all that material included in the story as different arcs
Actually Kubo himself said that he prefers the Ulquiorra and Vasto Lorde Ichigo fight in the opening of Hell Verse to the Anime and only drew it the way he did because of quota issues regarding Shonen Jump. He also provided concept art for how he thought it should be
@@nicolaemihai3581not necessarily, diamond dust rebellion directly contradicts the main story and facts that we know about how zanpakuto work, also it just doesn’t fit anywhere. As for fade to black, it doesn’t really have a place in the story and there’s no where we can find to properly fit it into the timeline. Hell verse movie has been stated to be 0% cannon by kubo because he really hates how it was executed and only likes the intro 😂
@@konradoles1848yes but that is IT, he actually hates everything else about the movie
@@nicolaemihai3581 gee way to bring up One Piece in a place it doesn't belong. Why mf always gotta bring up one piece for some reason 🙄
It was confirmed in 2016 people just refused to accept it
Well because before it wasn't confirm and people think all the movie is filler since before isn't related to the manga
Real
Facts
@@owlflame
Fair point
@@owlflameI agree with the movies but believing now that it's Canon when not believing it before doesn't make sense to me.
A friend of mine lirerally said to me "you were right the movie events are canon"
I said "buddy i showed you the panels years ago and you said that doesn't prove anything." 😂
I've been saying that shit for years and nobody believed me 😭🙏
You knew it just by reading manga?
@@masumgaji2886Officially it was stated in the Novels.
@@soulslayergamer2318 where can I read the novels???
@@masumgaji2886on the shonen jump app. Spirits are forever with you and can't fear your own world
@@masumgaji2886 yes it was directly referenced by the mentioning of the valley of screams
_memories of nobody_ remain as arguably my fav bleach movie due to how heartfelt it was & im glad it was somewhat canon 😢
Best Bleach movie imo. Heart-gripping story, memorable character in Senna, and the action in it wasn’t bad either. Seemed like a cool short filler arc; I even like that Ichigo didn’t need to use his Hollow mask to defeat Ganryū
I guess in that time Ichigo didn't Had His Hollow Mask Till yet.
Think it likely the movie Kubo had most involved in
@@Henbot Senna was designed by Kubo(according to him, what renji and rukia's daughter from another world would look like), so probably yes
@@kannan07 it make sense
@@soulslayergamer2318 Personally I watch the movie right after SS arc in my head cannon. That way it seems like Aizen still is building his army and we can see what Ichigo can do on his own without his hollow interference (like in the Arrancar arc). Plus it makes it seem random when it does happen
In CFYOW light novel, the final battle take place in the Valley of Scream and Tokinada mentioned about Ryodoji Clan, the enemy from movie 1.
You mean the League of Not Nice?
@@trollerpilotxiv3079 lmao, thought i was the only one who remenbered that.
@@trollerpilotxiv3079yea
@@ShadowFri3nd They did a cover of Be Prepared from The Lion King. How could we forget them after that?
CFYOW also made the Zanpakuto rebellion arc canon
Bro when I saw that line I pointed at the screen like Leonardo DiCaprio
I did too, I was like the blanks and Senna are canon now, I actually liked the Bleach movies 1-3, my second favorite is the Diamond Dust Rebellion.
Kubo liked Senna so much that he gave Renji and Rukia’s daughter that same design.
Kubo said originally Senna was Rukia and Renji's daughter from another timeline. That's why Ichika and Senna's design are similar.
@@shirosaki15 that's not what he said lol
@@NewWorldDreams47 yes he did
@@shirosaki15 Question 407 (2022.11.07)
Will Ichika’s Zanpakutō turn out to be Mirokumaru, the same one owned by Senna?
A: That won’t happen. They’re two different people and Mirokumaru isn’t a name I came up with.
@ironclad-m3q According to the interview included in Bleach Artbook JET, Senna's design is actually the design that Kubo was thinking of when making Rukia and Renji's child; he notes that she is like their child from a parallel universe and that the only thing different about Ichika Abarai is her color scheme.
Guess I was wrong, but not too far off got them mixed up😅
I love how these two were shown to correlate one another in the source material yearsss ago but thanks to Kubo’s well-needed and gifted additional detail can finally forges them seamlessly together very nicely
Just seeing Senna's face brought back so many fun memories but also the ending. Watched it a few years after it came out and I thought it was just gonna be awesome fighting, I was not ready for her heart clutching story.
I was sad she didn't atleast reincarnate as something else wither human or soul reaper
Tbf, I think this film was really easy to consider canon, since they lost their memories of the events of that film.
On that topic, I want to imagine their memories of the event without Senna. I bet they're quite confused.
@@the_psycho536 Thats hilarious to think about. I can just imagine Ichigo saying "Hey Rukia, remember when we fought all those Blanks and had to stop some guy from using the... thing? And save... Person?"
@@JoJoZiddy Literally
@@JoJoZiddy”Come on ichigo, of course I remember the sen… san…. Memory rock?”
@@SecondOmega "Rukia you big stupid, we've been in this graveyard all day. Wait, why did you bring me here? I told you I'm non-union!"
I love the panel that it's so easily referencing Senna with her scarf and the leaves my jaw practically dropped when it showed that part in the episode.
The memories of nobody movie was confirmed to be canon years ago
Weeeeell, that's one more piece of the bleach universe which Kubo can cook with if he continues hell arc
It's been known that Kubo likes getting his grubby little hands in all the bleach products because he loves his world building. Hell Arc COULD be special for Kubo to look at everything he's written and finally define what is and what's not canon.
Dude (Kubo)'s gathering all the characters and forming up an army
It only proves how incredibly complicated bleach's story and lore are also it proves how god damn powerful the verse is because now the whole movie is confirmed canon every single feat and statement of every single character in that movie becomes ture. Damn , kubo really is creating history with this anmie.
LOL @ Bleach's story/lore being complicated. It really doesn't get much simpler.
@@PopsRBleach has the least complex power system and world in all of shonen, yet has the most complex powers of individuals and locations out of all of them.
Finally JJK, Naruto and One piece fans will shut up.
@@albuspercivalwulfricbriand5363 What do those fans have to do with anything?
When I heard the valley of screams shi all made sense to me 🙏
It was canon but eventually forgotten like Rukia said at the end of the movie he'd eventually forget her because she was also a time paradox. 😢
I think Ichigo remembers her now though seeing as he knows he went to the Valley of screams and how unpleasant it was. Possibly due to the soul king training.
Kubo really changing the whole anime for the upcoming arc after this respect at its finest to him 🫡
This isn't a change. This scene is in the manga.
@ Yeah i realized after watching this video 😭
@@Ayaanra30
Don't worry, you're fine.
@infernousgaming1393 well I'm still glad we are getting new anime only content for the hell arc
@@Ayaanra30
Me too.
i remember watching memories of nobody when I was 12. that scene where ichigo was carrying senna. I was bawling my eyes out lol
I have a simple theory - I like Bleach so I watched all movies, fillers, non canon manga chapters and light novel and kubo sensei made everything gold for us 😊
"This one time, Senna ate a sandwich."
When Ichigo said he went to the Valley of Screams before but never mentioned Senna broke my heart since he doesn’t remember her 😢
fun fact: in one of the filler episodes there's a cameo of senna ! i can't remember which episode, but the gang was in a café and on the table behind them the back of her head showed.
I adore Kubo taking inspiration from others to build on his own material. This also happened with Shunsui's Zanpakuto spirit which were an anime original.
Well if I recall correctly, in the movie multiple people stated that they all will lose their memories of the female Soul Reaper because she is part of that area. So essentially the movie’s events technically happened but everyone forgot about it due to how entities from the Valley of Screams aren’t supposed to exist. It reminds me of the Nobodies from Kingdom Hearts, they aren’t supposed to exist but the empty bodies of people still persist to exist despite not having a heart anymore.
Exactly, idk how people miss this Senna didn't actually exist so the memory of her was lost. Atleast to everyone who saw her except Ichigo, so it makes perfect sense as to why the movie doesn't get referenced in the Manga or anime until now.
@ I was hoping I remembered that correctly. The Valley of Screams became more prominent because Aizen destroyed the Cleaner entirely in the Dangai. I remember that being the main cause for the events of the movie.
@@movespammerguyteam7colorsAizen didn't destroy the Cleaner by the time the movie came out.
The movie takes place between Soul Society arc and Arrancar arc, whereas Aizen destroyed the Cleaner (it came back a week later) during Deicide arc.
Of course, the canon events of the movie/Shinenju Incident could be tweaked to better fit the timeline somewhat so who knows.
The only part I don't like is Urahara saying people dont retain any memories when they cross over. The boy from the cockatiel, Rukia, and Rukia's sister all did.
I'd forgotten how good the Bleach movies were.
Senna was such an amazing character IMHO.
Senna was one of my favorite characters. I hope it was Canon!
I noticed that just yesterday, while watching the episode I was kinda confused as to why Ichigo said that, but then remembered the movie.
I never saw the movie so I was just confused at them introducing a new concept out of nowhere
This movie was almost everything bleach is supposed to be, touching its most essential topics.
Would it have better antagonists it'd be a solid 10.
Yeah the only issue were the villains tbh
SENNA ALWSYS HAS BEEN CANON IN MY HEART
And Cfyow is canon too les goo🔥🔥
it was always canon
SAFWY & CFYOW was Canon.
Senna was a really good character. It's the only character I've ever shed a year over
One of my favourite movie in Bleach. Because Senna was there.
Welcome back NFZen, and thank you for the speculation video as always!
The manga already confirmed this though.
That’s what he said in the video
@kanyerahming I'll rephrase. The video says that only the anime, with the mid-episode screen, references movie 1. But the manga already did that with Ichigo telling Riruka that he's already been to the Valley of Screams.
@ again, the video literally talks about the manga. Go to 0:27.
The ending of that movie had me in tears.
I'm so glad that Kubo made it canon
"The anime"
The manga chapters is out since multiple years where Ichigo confirmed that he already went to it 😂
Yeah we've stated for years that it was Canon it was everyone else who denied it.
@pacmiller7564 which is funny because now everyone is saying it is Canon because of the anime when it's the same statement.
@@muchoyurdem5260Fr I think most of the denial came from powerscalers 🥴and you know how they are.
@@pacmiller7564 That's probably true. But I'm also somewhat a scaler for fun and i always knew/said it's Canon.
Which manga chapter was it again? I want to reread it to refresh my memory.
Kubo is consolidating all the Bleach lore, plugging the plot holes and making all the necessary changes and retcons before Hell arc. He's really cooking Hell arc to be something phenomenal.
Ah yes the girl Ichigo truly should’ve ended up with
I want this music. I've heard it so many times now it never gets old.
he canonized it and allowed it to be used in bleach content going forward (like in cfyow)
Kubo liked the movie so much he retroactively declared it canon. He even modeled Ichika Abarai's design after Senna.
This is in stark contrast to the Hell verse movie that was supposed to be canon ahead of time, but they didn't stay true to Kubo's vision of Hell, so he's taking it upon himself in a Bleach continuation. The Hell Arc which we only have one chapter of so far.
The Hellverse Film was always supposed to be its own thing
I honestly had no idea the movie wasn't canon till now
I just assume all anime movies are canon
Memories of Nobody was such a good movie. Gave me my first anime crush too
It was never supposedly filled it was confirmed cannon since 2016
The video explained how the manga stated some concepts were canon but never the entirety of the movie
@ I think Ichigo saying that he’s been to the kyogoku is enough he’s never been shown to be there in the series besides in the memories of nobody movie it’s common sense
Guys if its been proven canon it's canon, no need to argue on the past
@@OvercookedOmlette The post card for episode 32 literally says he went to the valley of screams for the Shinenju who was Senna, the events of the film happened around the time Ichigo and the gang are training to fight Aizen
@@BC_KAMI I don't think he has ever said he was there in manga
Caught that throw away line from ichigo as well
It is a nice movie
Worth watching
I kneel Kubo. I kneel
Kubo not only giving fans exactly what they want but also completely fixing the issues with being rushed at the last arc. Dang its good to be an anime only fan
If I could hear that snowball from that distance, that wasn’t just snow.
Real Bleach Fans know it Since Years that the First Movie is Canon.
real
Real bleach fans don't even watch anime or read manga
@danguy6591 Anime fans in general tbh
@danguy6591 That Comment doesn't even make Sense.
this is one of my favorite anime movies. I have such a special emotional connection to it because of someone dying around the time i first saw it.
id say make all movies canon, theyre addition to lore and can be considered lost memories anyways,like the memorie wipe in the first movie and the 3rd best movie...
The only one that isn't for hundred percent is Hell verse due to him not liking that one
Senna, we wont forget you. And i think that movie is very healing. A slice of life even
Why is everyone glossing over the fact that Ichigo himself told Riruka that he's been to the Valley of Screams?
That never happened in the anime.. So it's definite proof that the movie is canon.
It was actually really well done how it was written in to show people that movie 1 was canon and the dialogue was tied in with a cute Riruka moment- where Ichigo acknowledges that she really had to try to contain the Valley pocket because she can usually only use her ability on things she likes.
Senna was in an episode in the anime too. She was sitting with her back shown in a cafe where ichigo was
Which episode?
The Credit song for memories of nobody is my favorite OST from the entire series.
Episode 32 was great even without action.
@@Atticus-Catnipp every tybw episode has been great the action and battles aren't needed to make bleach peak the lore and stroy make it top tier alone
My favorite bleach movie is now Canon. What a great day to be alive
The problem is the fan base wants to say what’s canon and what isn’t. Kubo has the final say
Ichigo did say he went to the Valley of scream in the manga as well, With Kubo telling people to go watch the 1st movie. It's been canon for 8 years now.
It was confirmed in the manga itself as well in 2016. It just flew over everyone's head.
I'm sure I remember Ichigo telling Riruka in this part of the manga that he'd been to the Valley of Screams before.
In conclusion, until proven different, the Hell Movie is only one that's not canon.
precisely
Technically the opening to Hell Verse was the only thing from a movie confirmed canon until this episode released
Diamon dust has been stated by kubo to be non canon and impossible because nobody can have the same zanpukto at the same point. I.e no two hiyroumaros at once.
It was cannon for a long time. Ichigo mentioned the valley of screams in the manga as well.
I'm still here thinking the bount arc wasn't canon until characters started showing up
The Bount arc is not canon and it doesn’t fit into the timeline also Kubo hated it
@Chillchildren999 so why do we have characters from it? Is there something I can google that discusses this?
@@ChillDeathgod post series novels canonized the bount arc via returning characters that are still themselves(bounts)
@@Longbow6625 That was Noriyuki Abe’s doing not Kubo’s, Kubo himself said he was hated the arc and it’s the reason he was involved with the anime more often, he said it in a Klub outside interview.
@@Fearienify No they didn’t also the Bounts have showed up in zero Bleach games
Kubo did actually say that most of the Bleach movies are actually canon. As hard as it is for most people to see that. They actually took place in the middle of most arcs.
Your name was indeed in that tombstone, Senna. Indeed it was 😭
Lol the google itself says that memories of nobody is the only cannon movie in bleach.
Memories of Nobody was such a great movie and it aged beautifully.
He literally hints and said this is one of his only movies he considers cannon except for the fight scene in the hell movie with ichigos vs ukiora( I can't remember how to sell his name)
This was such an underrated anime movie. This and Diamond Dust rebellion too.
The music in that movie was some of the best in bleach
that first movie with that girl is the best bleach one imo the ending is just
I mean this is no surprise because I remember the Bount Arc character Jin Kariya showing up later in the following arc in Ichigo's flashback if I remember correctly.
So even an awful filler arc can be deemed canon in anime.
The Bount arc is not Canon and Kubo hates it
This makes me extremely happy. Thank you 🙏 .
Senna is real!!!
Loved that the movie was brought up in the ep. Kubo's been cooking!
Kubo has fit bits of non canon material into the manga and make some of it canon. Toshiro's glimpse into his backstory of how he heard Hyorinmaru is part of the manga yet that scene was in the Zanpakuto rebellion arc which was non canon filler, other than the Zanpakuto designs drawn by Kubo himself. We are lucky he puts tiny details like this into bleach, it's a treasure for us old time bleach fans who recognize it.
Kubo on his redemption arc, not leaving his story in shambles like *cough* Gege *cough*
Its crazy I just watched the first bleach movie yesterday lol
If movie is Canon, it will be one of Ichigo's biggest losses
Memories of Nobody hits you right in the feels 😢
I mean something that is a canon component of the series doesn't exactly make the film canon. Hellverse, Strong World, you get the point.
I think there should just be an official statement "Yes this is canon to the manga" like for Naruto: The Last...
The ending in this movie was too much….😢
That movie was so good it hurt our feels at the end... it was AMAZING!
The ribbon and the maple leaves on that panel 😢 Senna best girl forever
Senna was, and still is, best girl. It broke my heart a little bit when Ichigo told her that she had a gravestone when she didnt.
I'm happy that she is canon now, but sad that it doesn't matter much because she basically got erased from existence.
Memories of Nobody is my favorite Bleach movie and I'm really glad that is considered canon now
It was one of the best bleach movies and anime movies at the time. So, it makes sense he made it cannon.
That's actually a pretty clever way to make Movie lore canon to The Standard Canon
I was so surprised when i heard this, kubo is amazing 😊