I was looking at the 255 FSH Sport H and then walked by the 222S. Decided that fit our lifestyle way better as we don’t fish. Almost 40K difference between the two. Win Win.
I would also recommend to consider the type of water you plan on boating in. Bigger boats deal with chop or rough water better then smaller boats. Comparing the my sx240 vs my friends 20ft prop boat, there’s a big difference in ride quality in the rough.
Hopefully one day these boats will adopt subfloor ballast like the dedicated wake boats. If you get the wake version of the 22ft, you have very very little storage space.
Thanks for reviewing! Both look like great boats. Just wondering if you have spent any time with the AR220. Interested to hear how the TR-1s handle the additional weight of this year’s model.
They have been making them a bit quieter each year over the last 8 years. I am not sure what they have in store for 2024 but I can tell you that they are light years better than they were when they first came out.
Not sure. We're in the panhandle area. I'd check with the local dealer there. Boaters Exchange or Riva Pompano would be the only people I know that could have info like this.
@@JetBoatPilot I didn’t see it on your website under the 2023 22’ option. I will email your company, could you reply with the link so I can purchase along with some other items for the discount. Thanks.
Life jackets are required to be readily accessible. Having them in a storage locker is not acceptable. Why don’t boat manufacturers accommodate this USCG requirement. How do you trim a Yamaha jet boat when there are waves for a better ride? Seems you need to run at a higher speed which makes for a rougher ride. .
Hi Will, great video! How can I get the SeaDek (Left and Right sections) for the swim platform hatch on the 252? My 252SE does not have the SeaDek under the seat cushions. Seems like a nice option to remove the cushions and have more non-skid standing room back on the swim platform.
Wondering how the 222 handles in a 3 foot rollers. Putting this in an inland lake called lake st Clair. While it’s not a Great Lake it’s not small. Square waves from every direction and boat traffic on weekends adds to the mix.
A big factor in deciding between these is their storage dimensions. What is the height of each with the tower collapsed? I’m wondering what size of garage will be needed for each boat.
I believe you'll need a minimum of 10 feet with the 25 and 9 feet for the 22. In the past I believe some have been able to make the 21 footers fit into a 8 foot opening bit requires some extra work to get that low. Most garages don't have the requisite length to fit either unless you have a workshop.
Love the content! any idea on head clearance on the 22' model while standing at the helm? I'm 6'3" and would prefer not to hit my head while moving around under the Bimini.
The real difference is the engine choice, the twin TR1s are pathetic compared to the twin 1.8s now 1.9s. Same price once you look at the same engine option.
Is it really 22'6"? I can't find any info on this. Every stat I found says either 22even or 22'2'". This is interesting that Yamaha can't simply publish the correct number.
I just pulled a tape on it and you're right. The number is 22' feet exactly. We were looking at the wrong spec when we made the video. The spec we pulled from was likely the length on trailer spec. The actual boat length is 22'. I can't edit the video without pulling it down completely. It was not our intent to mislead. We apologize for the misinformation. We'll add this detail in the description.
I think I’m going to get an ar220 as my starter boat. Has so many great features at good price point. However concerned about its durability in ocean. Will these boats be ok in salt water. I read that salt water can damage the jet drive.
Enjoy your videos Will. Ive watched your videos on the new sea doo switch and on the yamaha jet boats. We like both and are having a difficult time deciding which one to get. The 21ft cruise switch with the 230 motor or the AR250 yamaha. I noticed you touched on yamaha's reliability and low maintenance...but you didnt mention anything about the reliability or amount of maintenance that would be required on the sea doo switch. I would greatly appreciate your expert advice on this matter before i make my decision. Thank you
Historically the Yamaha gets the nod for most reliable. Seadoo typically gets the nod for most innovative. Time will tell how reliable the Switch is. If reliability is your number 1 item on your priority list then Yamaha is your beet choice.
You will notice a huge difference in performance. i have read several reviews on the switch. Even with the 230, if you get 5 or 6 people on it, it is very very slow. AR250 all day long between these two.
I have owned several boats over the years but never a jet boat. Thinking about a Yamaha but not sure the size. Just me, the wife and two dogs. We are in our low 50s. Would like to take up wake boarding and water ski. Have a newer Toyota 4 runner and boat launch literally 4 miles away.
@@chrisneill4765 Ah, I understand you now. Apparently there was an issue with providing a solar panel attached to the canvas and newer boats do not come with the solar charger any longer. I was unaware of this at the making of this video.
How are these on fuel consumption when wake boarding and surfing? I've always heard that jets are horrible on fuel. That said, I really like the looks and features of these boats.
They get about the same fuel Mileage as a traditional i/o, maybe a little better. Twin engine boat with 360 hp burns about 10 gph. Twin engine boat with 230 hp burns about 7.5 gph. The fuel hungry jet boats are the supercharged ones. Naturally aspirated are not that bad.
@@josephviveros5980 that boat is before connext Era. I think you have one pump that fills all three bags simultaneously. The switch should be near the helm. Also should have dump ports on either side of the boat so you get a visual when rear bags are full.
Great review! In terms of ride, how do they compare? Also how does the SX220 compare in ride and features to the 195s? I like the layout of the 195s, but the hull doesn’t look like it would ride well.
I don't have alot of time on rough water yet. But I do know it will ride immensely better than the 19. 25 definitely rides better than 22. It's heavier and longer. But both ride great!!!
I think the almost $20,000 difference in price is going to be the deciding factor for many people.
I was looking at the 255 FSH Sport H and then walked by the 222S. Decided that fit our lifestyle way better as we don’t fish. Almost 40K difference between the two. Win Win.
@@mikecournoyer Good choice. Cheaper. Easier to tow. More practical if you're not fishing.
I would also recommend to consider the type of water you plan on boating in. Bigger boats deal with chop or rough water better then smaller boats. Comparing the my sx240 vs my friends 20ft prop boat, there’s a big difference in ride quality in the rough.
For sure, the old expression we hear is "there is no replacement for displacement"
wring
Great video… helped us make our minds up.
Hopefully one day these boats will adopt subfloor ballast like the dedicated wake boats. If you get the wake version of the 22ft, you have very very little storage space.
Agreed. They easily need another 1,200lbs+ of ballast without it taking from the maximum weight capacity like it currently does.
great review thanks
You're welcome
Thanks for reviewing! Both look like great boats. Just wondering if you have spent any time with the AR220. Interested to hear how the TR-1s handle the additional weight of this year’s model.
We've not gotten our hands on a 220 but if Yamaha wants to send us one we'll be glad to do a thorough comparison to the 222.
buy it
Do you know if Yamaha is taking strides to make the boats quieter? Would the new ones be any quieter than the old ones?
They have been making them a bit quieter each year over the last 8 years. I am not sure what they have in store for 2024 but I can tell you that they are light years better than they were when they first came out.
What about the wave?
Where in the Port St Lucie area can these boats be found. How about trailer launching and loading easy or difficult? 15:32
Not sure. We're in the panhandle area. I'd check with the local dealer there. Boaters Exchange or Riva Pompano would be the only people I know that could have info like this.
So you think the DRiVE X is worth it? Debating on the 255 XE vs XD.
yes
@Sharon Braselton realized drive x isn't on the 255 so nvm.
Will JBP sell marine mat for the 22’ for under the seat pad in swim deck area? Thanks.
Yes we already have that pad on file.
@@JetBoatPilot I didn’t see it on your website under the 2023 22’ option. I will email your company, could you reply with the link so I can purchase along with some other items for the discount. Thanks.
@@mattkatemaybee1979 ok email at will@jetboatpilot.com
Did Yamaha discontinue the 255? I’ve been researching them a few weeks now and it looks like the 275 is now the only option to get twin SVHOs.
No you can still get the SVHO in the 255
@@JetBoatPilot interesting! I don’t see it on their website. Thanks for the reply!
@@JetBoatPilot I’m dumb, I didn’t see the “wake series” tab on their site. I see the svho models now.
@@John-vh1fk good deal!
Wifey says every inch counts, and the bigger the better, and I agree😂😂😂
I hope you have money
Life jackets are required to be readily accessible. Having them in a storage locker is not acceptable. Why don’t boat manufacturers accommodate this USCG requirement. How do you trim a Yamaha jet boat when there are waves for a better ride? Seems you need to run at a higher speed which makes for a rougher ride.
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Wholly crap. To wordy. Get to the point.
Hi Will, great video! How can I get the SeaDek (Left and Right sections) for the swim platform hatch on the 252? My 252SE does not have the SeaDek under the seat cushions. Seems like a nice option to remove the cushions and have more non-skid standing room back on the swim platform.
Email me at will@jetboatpilot.com and I'll get you a quote on Monday
Wondering how the 222 handles in a 3 foot rollers.
Putting this in an inland lake called lake st Clair. While it’s not a Great Lake it’s not small. Square waves from every direction and boat traffic on weekends adds to the mix.
Was wondering the same. Everyone says go with as much boat as you can afford for the LSC.
@@michalp2362 yeah. I heard the same. Looking at the 252 SD also, price difference Though.
Not sure if this was mentioned, what is the total length on trailer with lounge folded in in the 22'?
@MrRes1cue not sure, email me at will@jetboatpilot.com and I'll check Monday and get back to you.
A big factor in deciding between these is their storage dimensions. What is the height of each with the tower collapsed?
I’m wondering what size of garage will be needed for each boat.
I believe you'll need a minimum of 10 feet with the 25 and 9 feet for the 22. In the past I believe some have been able to make the 21 footers fit into a 8 foot opening bit requires some extra work to get that low. Most garages don't have the requisite length to fit either unless you have a workshop.
The "Great Big" sun shade on the 25' boats is considerably smaller than it was on the 242x. I don't know why they made it smaller.
Love the content! any idea on head clearance on the 22' model while standing at the helm? I'm 6'3" and would prefer not to hit my head while moving around under the Bimini.
What’s a good all around boat including fishing
We really love the Yamaha FSH. Its great for fishing but also for the family.
@@JetBoatPilot thank you.
The real difference is the engine choice, the twin TR1s are pathetic compared to the twin 1.8s now 1.9s. Same price once you look at the same engine option.
Is it really 22'6"? I can't find any info on this. Every stat I found says either 22even or 22'2'". This is interesting that Yamaha can't simply publish the correct number.
I just pulled a tape on it and you're right. The number is 22' feet exactly. We were looking at the wrong spec when we made the video. The spec we pulled from was likely the length on trailer spec. The actual boat length is 22'. I can't edit the video without pulling it down completely. It was not our intent to mislead. We apologize for the misinformation. We'll add this detail in the description.
@@JetBoatPilot Thanks for that!
@@rustedfruit9870 you're welcome
Great video. Thanks. Question, what is the top speed for 22 and 252.
Top we've seen has been 48 on the 222 and the 252 was a little less. It's been a while but I think we saw 46 on our 252S before we sold it.
I wish Yamaha would make a center console that was about 4 ft more forward and have a larger cockpit area like some of the boat down under.
really nice review comparison, just likes and subscribed ...happy & safe boating
Awesome! Thank you!
Are JBP shirts available to order? Don't see any merch link on website.
Here: jetboatpilot.com/products/jetboatpilot-logo-tshirt
great job, thank you
Great Walkaround!!
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Current chaparral owner. The 252SD is my next boat!!!
Just wish the 250 hp engines were an option!
It's really well done.
Great detailed Video...
Thank you from Germany.
You're welcome!
I think I’m going to get an ar220 as my starter boat. Has so many great features at good price point. However concerned about its durability in ocean. Will these boats be ok in salt water. I read that salt water can damage the jet drive.
Definitely ok to use in salt water. Just don't leave in salt water for more than a few days at a time.
@@JetBoatPilot I assume you would flush the drive similar to how you flush jet skis after use. ? Thanks for the fast response.
@@FernandoGonzalesPortillo yes, they use the same engines
Thanks to let us know more about these Jets
What is your specific question/request?
Enjoy your videos Will. Ive watched your videos on the new sea doo switch and on the yamaha jet boats. We like both and are having a difficult time deciding which one to get. The 21ft cruise switch with the 230 motor or the AR250 yamaha. I noticed you touched on yamaha's reliability and low maintenance...but you didnt mention anything about the reliability or amount of maintenance that would be required on the sea doo switch. I would greatly appreciate your expert advice on this matter before i make my decision. Thank you
Historically the Yamaha gets the nod for most reliable. Seadoo typically gets the nod for most innovative. Time will tell how reliable the Switch is. If reliability is your number 1 item on your priority list then Yamaha is your beet choice.
@@JetBoatPilot thankyou Will.
@@wynnloftis365 you're welcome
You will notice a huge difference in performance. i have read several reviews on the switch. Even with the 230, if you get 5 or 6 people on it, it is very very slow. AR250 all day long between these two.
Wow - great video👍
good stuff
I have owned several boats over the years but never a jet boat. Thinking about a Yamaha but not sure the size. Just me, the wife and two dogs. We are in our low 50s. Would like to take up wake boarding and water ski. Have a newer Toyota 4 runner and boat launch literally 4 miles away.
Either 19 footer or 21/22 footer would be where I would start you
I’m confused, how does this 252SD have the SVHO motors? I though these were only in the 255’s.
You're correct, it does not have SVHO. Wrong engine covers.
Great job, pro review!
Thanks Cap!
So they decided to actually provide the solar panel again.
They did? When did this happen?
@@JetBoatPilot you showed it in your video.
@@chrisneill4765 Ah, I understand you now. Apparently there was an issue with providing a solar panel attached to the canvas and newer boats do not come with the solar charger any longer. I was unaware of this at the making of this video.
@@JetBoatPilot Yeah, I was wondering when I saw it if they'd come back to it. Honestly, I have one that I can deploy on the boat that's likely better.
Can you compare 25' x 27', please.
Let me see if I can set that up.
buy 275
Here's our 25' vs 27' comparison ua-cam.com/video/r8uOL9b4hrA/v-deo.html
How are these on fuel consumption when wake boarding and surfing? I've always heard that jets are horrible on fuel. That said, I really like the looks and features of these boats.
They get about the same fuel
Mileage as a traditional i/o, maybe a little better. Twin engine boat with 360 hp burns about 10 gph. Twin engine boat with 230 hp burns about 7.5 gph. The fuel hungry jet boats are the supercharged ones. Naturally aspirated are not that bad.
@@JetBoatPilot that is great to know! Thanks for the reply and the review!
@@05subisti you're welcome
I've got the 21 now i want a 25 lol.
@waylonharper1126 the 25 rides so much better!
Do you compare Yamaha against any other jet boats?
Yes we do but don't have access to other brands very often.
Just bought my first Yamaha. Do you have a video on how to use the ballast bags?
2013 Yamaha 212x
No, but can make one. What year is your boat? Which model?
@@JetBoatPilot 2013 Yamaha 212x little older but anything helps. Thank you
@@josephviveros5980 that boat is before connext Era. I think you have one pump that fills all three bags simultaneously. The switch should be near the helm. Also should have dump ports on either side of the boat so you get a visual when rear bags are full.
Can the canopy on the 25 ft fit the 22 ft?
You mean the sun shade?
Great review! In terms of ride, how do they compare? Also how does the SX220 compare in ride and features to the 195s? I like the layout of the 195s, but the hull doesn’t look like it would ride well.
I don't have alot of time on rough water yet. But I do know it will ride immensely better than the 19. 25 definitely rides better than 22. It's heavier and longer. But both ride great!!!
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@@JetBoatPilot both 22 and 25 footers
@V Smith there's many options. 22 footers start around 60k and go up to about $85k. 25 Starts around 80K and goes up to over 110K
@@JetBoatPilot thanks.
@@9rider11 you're welcome
If you can get one.