We Attempted a WORLD RECORD on a CNC Machine and This Happened…
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- Опубліковано 25 лип 2024
- They say Feeding at 2000 IPM is Impossible. This 15 flute end mill from Kennametal takes on 1018 steel attempting to reach 2000 IPM in our Heller HF 5500 beast mill.
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00:00 Is 2000 IPM on a CNC Machine??
00:22 Kennametal's 15 Flute Finishing EndMill
00:34 Titan & Barry at Heller HF 5500
01:08 Machining 2000 IPM
05:03 Titan & Barry Finish Machining
05:18 Kennametal’s Endmill After Machining
05:28 academy.titansofcnc.com
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Hello Titans! Are you going to EMO Germany event?
Yes, Heller booth on Tuesday at 2pm
Then BLASER on Wednesday at 2pm and then DN Solutions at 2pm on Thursday.
See ya there!
Stephane our Sales rep @Evard Précision waits you with a drink on Hall 4, Stand D28
Hell I wish I was going to EMO… and I don’t even work in this industry… it’s just cool to make shit 👍💪
I still can NOT believe that tool survived. Not only did it survive but it actually worked well. Crazy
There is so much that can be said about every aspect of this setup in order for this to work. The machine capabilites, the workholding, the tool holder, the grade of carbide of the tool. All of it had to come together to make this happen. Incredible.
Add coolant and push it even harder....2400IPM...maybe 2500....
coolant while machining steel will actually not help but decrease tool life@@ajwilson605
@@ajwilson605 Doesn't work like that in steel.
@ajwilson605 air blast is coolant. Many coatings used nowadays needs a little bit of heat to work properly and prevent built up edge. Liquid coolant on this process would destroy the cutting edges in minutes due to thermal shock.
It was such a nice sounding cut, I had no idea you guys already ran this on the other side of the shop until it was done 😂😂
As one lathe guy to another please please I need more of your content and if possible maybe a little fusion 360???? Tbf you are all amazing 👏
My machine cant even rapid travel this fast.
Mine can't either but they begin spindle stalling at anything over 3000 mm/min in anything harder than plastics and with any meaningful tool engagement. You need powerful servos but you also need an insanely powerful spindle with high torque for shenanigans like this
Same lol
Mine could do it if it were dropped out of an airplane
One tool per part… when money is no object…
@@michaeltrilck5680 But like they said... if you are running 100ipm, it's time to seriously re-evaluate running 400 or 600 and even up to 1000.
If this doesn't get you excited about machining, nothing will! Awesome work guys🦾
i still remember the first ever 200 IPM in Haas machine on aluminium 😎... now it's 10X on steel 😱 this is what Titan always says raise to greatness.. machine greatness... see the smile on his face 🙂🙂 like never before.. good work barry.. hats off 🤙🏼powerful Peoples make places powerful 👍🏼
one day is going to be 4000IPM and we be shatting bricks all over again.
Titan and Barry aren’t afraid of a challenge. Love it!
Great content! Thanks for showing the world what’s possible, too many shops have guys running tools at lethargic MRR because they haven’t began to understand the full potential of the machine, work holding and tooling solutions.
Love how you guys are always pushing the limits. Keep up the great work! 👊
That tool sounded amazigly good for that speed. Very nice!
That must have been a fun phone call to make to your Kennametal rep...."Hey, gues what? 2000 IPM in steel, it lived and is still in good shape!"
This is freaking insane! So awesome guys! Great job!!!
🤯🤯 absolutely amazing, honestly at a loss for words right now that the tool survived and worked as well as it did
Extreme leavel of machining, you guys are pushing every limit of the machines. Keep going with such interesting vedios.
Everytime I start getting discouraged about going into the CNC trade(still an apprentice) I just pop up titans of cnc and watch the awesome stuff you all are doing and it gets me right back into it! Keep up the great videos!
Why do you get discouraged?
You're pretty much set for a career, most of the engineering automation has already happened, the next revolution that will pull millions out of work is in the soft fields like journalism, banking, graphic design et cetera etc
This is really insane, but in my opinion the 1000IPM on the 3/8 Cutter was way more insane it had nearly the same MRR with 40 compared to this (48) but at HALF the diameter so way more fragile tool. But still a great video love those limit checks
Barry taking it to the next LEVEL!!
I can't believe that that tool is doing that kind of machining.
The accuracy of this machine tool has to be very good to do this kind of dry metal machining.
Woow...!! You are crazy guys, but really, you inspire me and my guys to go beyond. We never know so far we can go until we try it.
Thanks guys for this inspirational video..!!
Holy fuck! 😳😳 "try that in your Haas" 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
German machines are awesome 💪🏻
Mark from Haas Automation would like a word with you XD
This is awesome 😂, wonder what would happen on a 15 year old DMG linear motor mill that can do 100 meters per min, 4000IPM next?
Guys, I'm Belarusian, and I don't know English very well. But how I would like to work with you and learn skills from you. You're awesome!
This was so awesome to watch!!
That is Insane!! That is scary fast. You and your team Kill it Every time. Thanks for Sharing and the all the information
Epic! They used to say running a 4 minute mile was “impossible”😅 Always push for more!
Lol! Working in full panic mode, and then Greatness!! Haha love it!
Titan, Barry.....awesome, doing crazy and showing crazy is what i think it takes to break the current mold and bring manufacturing back to north america. ❤
Some insane cuts! So cool!
This rpm and feed applies to smaller machines. Part rigidity helps keep this endmill from chipping or breaking too
If it was slotting , I had a feeling it would break immediately but since it’s doing the periphery, I had a feeling it was gonna last doing that. I never knew they made a 15 flute endmill
Amazing. Some machines don't even have this fast of a rapid travel. Good job!
One badass end mill, Top notch machining center!!!!!!!!!!!!
Congratulations !!!! Simply, WOW !!!
The fact it survived was impressive. Let alone running that fast. In steel. Now let's all remember. They ran it dry. Absolutely amazing work.
the tool wouldn't make it with coolant on, because of the thermal shock
Chinesium. 😂. Great video!
Great job guys.... Boom! Bang!
Funny how things go.
I can remember the history of tools and machines.
Cnc machines could do more then the available tools 30 years ago.
Then the carbide grades getting better and the machines were to slow in speed and processor capacity, a corner was some strange form but nut 90°.
Now the machines getting quicker and quicker with the "thinking capacity", better processors, rigid frames and stronger motors...... I see it as an constant battle between machine builders and tool manufacturers 😅
Let's see what in the coming years happens, I think very interesting stuff 😊
Ssssooooo.... That was effin kool!! Mind is blown!! U guys effin rock!!
This reminds me of the 4 minute mile record that literally took forever to break which was in 1954. Athletes be like 4 min mile? pffft that is impossible which is why the record stood for so long. But since that day in 1954 1,755 athletes have broken it. Surely with the advancements of technology in the machines and tooling this is a really great example of pulling a Morpheus from the Matrix "I'm just trying to free your mind" approach. Granted I don't have a spare Heller sitting around my garage to attempt this nor would I consider it looking at the expense of a tech coming out to repair my machine afterwards but I like the point you guys make. It's ok to push things harder and faster. As always much love and gratitude. 💥💪
What is more amazing than the metal coming off is the mass of the machine that is moving at that speed repeatably to make it happen. Charles
Nice!
Would be nice to see the MRR values.
I think the acceleration of the machine is also just as impressive.
Yeah that was insane!
That's nuts crazy quick all good sounding cuts no squawking an the tool look just as good as new. what did the MRR end being? our machines haven't even got rapids that move that fast.
Getting some strong Rodney Dangerfield vibes @1:15 😂 love it!
Barry the terminator, "lm in need for speed", whole new meaning to the quote, amazing 😮
I would love to see microscopic before and after photo imaging of the milling cutter.😊
Todos tem o meu respeito, pela simplicidade e umildade. Meus parabéns
Hi, great mindset. The first one needs to be a bit crasy. Best Regards from Germany
Wowww 😍🔥🔥
Push it further!!
Now that's Crazy speed!
I would like to see a video on how you come up with your parameters for your tools. I know Kennametal has the Novo but I haven’t used it much to know how to really get the results I’m looking for. Like for your high efficiency tool paths, or if you want to do a helical plunge and so on.
love the knurled surface finish!
Titan and Barry together are Epic!
Thank you for this video. I never seen before
That was probably the smoothest sounding run in steel I have ever heard. Absolutely no bogging down on the spindle or the axis servos. A shot of the load meters would have been insightful.
Thats because its not taking much of a cut. The chips are needles.
Try putting it in an ER-collet 😂 I think the rigidity of the tool-holder and the part itself helped a lot there. The tools can often take a hell of a beating if you do it right. Some times I just go for the sound and load, then see how the tool looks after 😂
I used to fabricate the swarf conveyors/coolant tanks for these machines!💪💪👍👍
WOW - The material removal Rate - BOOM Spindle bearings also be like BOOM ha ha. Great job. Def worth a test to see whats possible !! It looks like 2200 is possible
Waow thats so crazy, i love it. ❤👌🤜
We use heller machines to turn the journals of crakshafts. They are beasts.
If you've got the RPM, the torque, the table drive speed, and the rigidity, you can hit your chip load target and the limit becomes heat management at the cutter edge and ultimately the dynamic pressure on the cutting edge. Cut faster, it has to increase.
Спасибо за впечатляющее видео, коллеги.
never would call myself a cnc operator but i did .100 deep 4 inch dia at maybe 1,100 rpm at 20 ipm with a custom index cutter that I made on a prototrak bridgeport. I know very well thats nothing but i used kennametal inserts which are the bomb imo.
Amazing machine
the try that in a small town refrence was awesome
Very impressive! I kinda wanted to see a finishing pass to take care of the ripples on the work piece.
I would have never thunk it. Cool stuff to learn.
MAN that is crazy. The 4 axis Mori Seiki I run can hit 240 IPM in 100% rapid and 9000 RPM. It couldn't do anything close to this.
Your mori could remove just as much with a slower feedrate and a higher chip load with a insert cutter.
Wonder what the tool wear will be like? I mean you can do this feed rate but if it wears the tool out faster than a more normal feed rate?
The first time I was drilling with a carbide coolant thru drill the math worked out to 30 ipm feed into a part.... the most nerve wracking thing I have ever done because there wasnt the ability to fix this part. Now that fast is common
Barry! I'm so amazed of how much thought is behind it. Firstly You picked a steel grade with around 0,75% carbon and high manganese content for its low ductility to provide good chip breaking and to avoid tool pullout. Secondly You used a finishing tool for it's small edge radius to minimalize cutting forces. Am i right that You picked the axial and radial DOC to have some spare torque just in case? Those are just my first thoughts but i bet there was a lot more behind it. BTW in those vices the workpiece was never going anywhere. Greets as allways, You Guys rule!
More smaller flutes also means the core of the tool is larger and more solid. But you have to take a hell of a lot into consideration before hitting the yeet button on a cycle like this. OMG scary.
The grade he used is a Mild/Low carbon steel 1018, 0.18% carbon , high ductility.
@@matthewbehrens7091 He used 1080 grade, not 1018 1:48
It says in the video 1080, but in the description it says
"This 15 flute end mill from Kennametal takes on 1018 steel attempting to reach 2000 IPM in our Heller HF 5500 beast mill."
@@Jatsekusama
Makes me proud to see that German quality still exists. Heller makes crazy machines and just around the corner from me aswell. Southern germany still rocks when it comes to high tech machining in metal, software and engineering.
0.26mm/flute! That's cray cray!
Mad Baz! You are good value mate! haha.
Wow!!!! that's Crazy! Boom!!!!
That was fun, but the finish looked a little rough. Not sure if that is how its supposed to look but it would interesting to see at what rate of feed the finish smooths out.
The part and the tool are the star but look at the faces of the boys in the background..they see pushing the limit most days….. but this one had a few jaws dropping and then stare of unbelievable amazement. If this team is going wow then then rest need to tug the forelock in respect.
I regularly pocket mill a 3/4 endmill 1.5in down in Z at 2500rpm, 50in/min taking .095 per wall in 1018 welded parts
That's one fast boi👀
Nobody done it before, since the CEO never let anyone, try, without forking the money out of their pocket for when it fails. That's why the Titans are up there, since HR people that got their degrees in "emotional damage" and "buhuhus look at me, I am sad", are not involved in the production and management of the people and the product. To be in the top, is once again proven by Titan, by pushing boundaries and sharing their success with the clients and employee's. That's a tribe that I would be proud to be part of. Keep on going, may fairness always be part of your core creed.
the fact that these tools can cut that much steel at this rate is just CRAZY!! how does the cutter stay sharp!???
They were saying how the machine is scary fast. At my last job I worked on a Makino and it had a 4,000 ipm rapid. It was hard to get used to flipping the parts on the other side because the whole machine would be rattling and shaking around me
Great video on high speed machining but what is the metal removal rate? Being involved with carbide tooling for 28 years with SecoTools this was one lesson I learn't Cheers Ian
:-) Amazing! Nice job!
Very very good 👍👍👍
Pessoal vocês são feras!!!! Show!
What's the material removal rate vs a conventional feed? I feel like you could remove the exact same material per minute with a conventional tool path.
That's what I was thinking as well. Those are needles coming off that thing so it isnt much of a cut. You could take a bigger cut with a slower feed rate. My question would be which is wearing the cutter out quicker? Titan doesnt have to pay for cutters as they are given to him from the manufacturer to demo. So that cutter (if its a 3/4") costs 330 bucks on MSC and a shop that has to pay for that thing has to consider that. Also machine wear. 2000 IPM puts a lot more wear on everything than 500ipm and so on. I think most shops would opt for a insert type cutter in this situation. Inserts are cheaper to change and usually have at least 4 sides as well. Once that thing is dull it has to be resharpened and that costs even more. I have to pay for my cutters. Just my .02
5:16 Got ‘em, but they do look worn AF. Can’t really expect better out of a finishing mill doing all of it’s own roughing completely dry though. You guys violated that tool. 😅
I needed a seatbelt emoji for this video!
Please keep machining like this to see how long the tool lasts/ what makes it break
Nuts but I love it I’m trying to figure out how to get customers so I can have machines like this
Sweet! 👌
holy crap.. this machine dynamic. And that with this Kind of Spindle. Hard to hit i guess.
Nice!
WICKED!👍🏻
Kudos on the record but what’s the mmr here? Looks like a very small radial. I’m wondering would you run these conditions everyday or it’s just fun to mess around
"Kennametal says it won't survive... BUT WHAT IF IT DOESN'T?!"
i love this attitude lmao
Please just hit the FEED button speed it up! sounds beautiful
Too much fun.
Which grade of steel and what’s the step over
You make it like 1018 is tough, only because you compare it to leaded (you coud perhaps go even faster) or Chinesium which might seem easy at first until an inconsistency eats your tool.