Man, i love Caleb's work. the writing, the passion, the homework you can tell he does prior, it's honestly why i keep watching these tv reviews even though i've already purchased a new tv. And now, i'm thinking twice about my choice. anyone want to buy a new a80L? haha. nothing wrong with it, I just want to try this G4.
Congratulations, you made the right ✅️ decision 👏 👍 hope you will enjoy it for many years to come, absolutely the best tv with the highest contrast level on any tv with new processes and higher brightness 🌞 lg 😅all the way,
3:48 You can turn on automatic updates in the LG App Store settings. That way, they update while you aren't using them and won't bother you every time you start up an app.
you say it. true more brightness. i have the lg g3. but the glossy screen with the cx the colors looks deeper. not worth to upgrade from my lg g3 to the g4! only 100 nits brighter in hdr with dynamic tonemapping. i wait till the lg g5!
New LG G4 coming in this Friday. Upgrading from an LG 77 CX and I'm excited like a kid on Christmas. The CX was a TV that I held on to the longest and was my first OLED tv. I was a LED man for the longest time but ended up upgrading my tv's every year, which stopped when I bought the LG CX. I think the best LED TV I had was the Q9FN which I had for about a year and the tv's that followed it were just huge disappointments which finally made me try the LG CX, even though I was afraid of burn in, but after having it since 2020, I had absolutely none and I'm sold on OLED technology and would never go back to an LED tv since the picture quality is unmatched, no matter how many dimming zones they claim they have, it's just not the same as OLED.
@@NotYourAvgJoe24 Unfortunately, the first set was defective and had to be exchanged but the replacement has been flawless and quite an improvement over the CX. I've rewatched a few movies already, Life of Pi being the first one since I think that one really shows off the tv, even though it's an older movie. Games on the PS5 and the Xbox look great and the ones that are capable of 120fps, definitely achieve that on this screen. Overall, I am extremely satisfied, especially considering that I paid as much for the 77CX back in 2020 as I did for the 77G4 this month. You won't be disappointed..
I always remember as a kid that the Goldstar TVs that you would see in the store were the cheap TVs. You didn’t even think about buying them because you knew they were gonna be crap. They sure have came along way.
What LG I’ve done with G4 is not to increase the brightness but improve the quality overall by making subtle improvements that is visible. Just by increasing brightness doesn’t make the TV better but how it handles near dark areas & shadow details. Also better posterisation mitigation which is common in streaming and sat TVs.
Meanwhile the other TV's have brigher HDR and more HDR impact as a result. I know. I swapped from S95C to G4. It is not as bright with HDR highlights and more so in game mode.
@Joonz14 Yea I play both of those. Everything looks amazing on it because it's an OLED and it's actually bright. Windows 11 even does auto HDR on most games that don't have HDR and it looks excellent.
Planning to get a 77" G4 next month to upgrade from my current 55" B9 OLED. Still struggling because the B9 looks so good that i don't know if I'll notice too much of a difference
@ well looking over everything the tv has and does and my only complaint is that the remote buttons aren’t backlit is pretty minor compared to all the negatives the other tvs do have
@@stephenearly4057 The only thing it has that other remotes don't is the motion control. That is gimmicky and inconsistent. Not being backlit is not minor as it means everything besides the D pad is unusable when watching at night / light controlled room.
I need help with upgrading to the G4. I have a 65 inch LG G1 and I want to upgrade to the G4. How can I sell it? or are there companies that allows me to upgrade?
Currently, have the 55 LGCX hands down the best TV i have ever owned when its time to get a new tv ill be getting another LG for sure . Glad to see the G4 is a power house
I just done exactly that today 65 G4 ( from Richer Sounds In the UK) AND they throw in an LG wireless surround system free with this TV (£2199 cash and the sound system is normally £699 so a decent mid range one) pretty good deal I reckon
@@snorkelgutt yea no worries, I payed about $2700 here in the states. Like I said in my first comment it was on sale and $800 dollars off of original price so I really couldn’t pass that up.
For the older generation, I’m still rockin’ a 2005 Pioneer Elite Kuro PRO-1150HD. I’ve been wanting to upgrade to 4K for a few years, and I’ve been eyeballin’ the LG panels. I think it may be time.
Heh, your comment feels directed at me, coming from a 2006 Panasonic 42" Plasma - which is still working perfectly fine. Have been considering 4K for quite a few years and today made the leap to a G4, should come somewhere next week. Can't wait to see what a 18 year leap in tech looks like. Also, ironically it's cheaper than what I paid for the Panasonic. Hope that this one last for the next 18 years :)
Finally I can upgrade from my LG C8 OLED. Been waiting for LG to have the top TV. I wanted the Sony A95L but wife won't accept anything without a magic remote.
Same position tbone! My girlfriend loves the magic remote and webos in LG OLEDs. We also have an a80j in the house and she hates it because of the interface and lack of a magic remote.
The A95L is superior to the the G4. Especially because of the QD-OLED in the A95L and the even better picture processing. While HGIG support is something that Sony lacks compared to LG.
@@Buzza235 in terms of 3D look I'm sure G4 will win. But E9 doesn't have this 3d effect and bravia 9 might be good enough when it comes to black levels,blooming control whilst providing bigger more immersive panel and higher brightness/APL (it would be 77" g4 vs 85" bravia as they are similar in cost).
@@gosman949 Oled cannot properly display 4k nit content because its not bright enough so it clip highlights and you lose details, the bravia 9 will have better details and color in hdr highlights.
The picture does look great. My two questions are how does it look with regular SDR from cable or UA-cam Tv? And does this extra brightness help in really dark scenes? Even OLEDs have issues with this in real world scenarios.
if you're considering this TV for watching SDR from cable or yt TV, don't buy it. Buy a Sony X80L or X90L, will be better value for money for your requirement.
@@Sas-wk9lj Thanks, I do watch a lot of 4k movies but since the tv will be used in the family room, SDR content is watched pretty often too. I have a dedicated home theater room for my personal enjoyment but family movies should look good too. I do appreciate and agree with your suggestions though I might just go with the 85 inch Bravia 7 or 9. Sony’s upscaling is the best in my opinion but I was hoping to stay with OLED that might be a bit brighter than my current A80J.
I have G4 83 (turned in G3) and man let me say… this tv rocks. All colors, brightness, smooth gradation etc. and I run PS5 with God of War Ragnarock and have all SONOS (2 subs, 2 back speakers, and 1 SONOS Arc) so my set up is done. Totally worth it. Just mad my studs on the wall couldn’t fit the flush mount in the house. That’s ok.
Every LG OLED tv have a 5 year warranty. Atleast where i live. Had some dead pixels developing on my LG C9 i bought in 2020 and they replaced the panel recently at my home for free. Stellar service!
Also … unclear, is this the same "5-year limited warranty" on the panel they've offered on G-series, and they now specify _long term image retention_ coverage, or is this a new, expanded "bumper-to-bumper" 5-year warranty?
@@ChromeJob When i bought my C9 in 2020 i got a free 5 year panel warranty. LG no longer offer this warranty on the C lineup sadly. The warranty now only cover G and Z series of OLEDs
Excellent review this go round and also I'm loving the fun energy of these reviews lately. This might be the first time I go for the full fat OLED and the G4 is on my list. I really want to watch the peak OLEDS go against the peak Mini-LEDs. Can you make a head to head series for this new gen?
I have the LG 65 inch C2 And I was completely happy with it. The picture was nice. The sound is good and everything was okay until I bought. The 77 inch G4 And now my LG C2 Does not look as good anymore. This TV's Picture quality and processing are amazing. Even the low quality streaming is up graded to a beautiful picture on this new LG G4
Just upgraded from an 8 year old 50" Panasonic LED to a 55" LG G4. Having it wall mounted as well. Also got the LG G1 soundbar free as part of the deal worth £750, and a free 6 year warranty from Richer Sounds
@danielwolstenholme9649 It was on the website, it said under the details of the TV that there was a free LG G1 soundbar included in the deal. Ring Richer Sounds if you can't find it. The only other thing I can think of is that the offer is over and you may have missed it
@danielwolstenholme9649 My TV and soundbar are coming on Tuesday and will be wall mounted by the installer who was recommended to me by Richer Sounds. I'm going to sell the soundbar as I have a Marantz AV receiver paired with Wharfedale speakers. How is yours? I'm very excited to watch 4K UHD blue rays, play on my PS5 and Xbox SX
No reviews I saw ran into the issue, but be aware that there's an issue reported by several owners (including myself) on various forums (avsforum, avforums) when TV is hooked to an AV which handles the various sources through HDMI2. Sometimes (it's very random), switching to this input gives a strange fuzzy picture and the only workaround is to switch off for few mins. Hopefully just some teething issues that LG will fix through firmware, should they acknowledge the problem.
I spent some time on the phone with LG's testing department in AL. The tester was able to replicate the issue and stated he would be submitting a report to LG HQ for a firmware fix. This was in early April when the G4 was first released (but after the Day One update of 3.10.27 released on 4/5/24). Since then, and based on the Korean firmware site, there is no subsequent update. Initially, my reports on various sites were received with doubts and dismissals. Since then, there are many similar reports along with pictures and videos of the exact problem. I also sent a PM to Caleb before he recorded his G4 review and he stated he would look into it. I don't know if his testing unit had these issues, but based on my experience having purchased 3 G4s which all had the same HDMI 2 problems, this is a real and troubling issue which makes this otherwise spectacular TV problematic.
@@pkalellis Do you think there will be a fix for this or do we abandon ship and return the TVs? I am reading about tons of returns to Best Buy on AVS forum
@@rjaraiedi I still have several weeks in my return window so I will wait. But what's unfortunate is that the LG reviewers are giving glowing reviews without addressing this very prevent issue. If they discussed this issue in their reviews, maybe this would push LG to move faster on addressing this issue . . . . One can hope.
I love TV reviews on this channel but I wish gaming would be at least mentioned in some capacity given that these TVs are so expensive and a lot of people (including me) would like to hear something about it. Anyways other than that I think reviews are really great.
you want to spend some money, but you don't know on what, that's the kind of situation you're in. You don't really need a TV, you want to spend on the idea that you got no. 1 TV.
@@Sas-wk9lj I'm curious about how the tech has been evolving in different parts of the industry - same reason I watch PC component reviews regularly even if I'm not in the market to buy anything. Not everyone chases reviews for self-validation
have a 65" C9 with over 6k hours, still runs great. no burn in or any other issues. amazing tv's. would love to upgrade, but there is really no reason to as it works so well. Of course a newer C4 or G4 would be much brighter, am looking forward to upgrading. Can I ask, what do you do with your old C9 or old TV's in general?
My C9 has been great. Like all tech, there was a couple of little things that bugged me but overall an amazing tv. I usually pass my old TVs down to my parents, but this time I decided to put it in the spare bedroom.
Since all TVs get reviewed very early in their firmware upgrade cycle, I think it would be useful to have generational comparisons where you have, for example, G3 with latest firmware and G4 with current firmware. I would also like someone, with time on the their hands, to create a website with full firmware upgrade data for each tv set and manufacturer with a curve for features added, features removed, bugs fixed - because at prices like these I want to know that manufacturer is committed to maintaining and improving your multi-thousand dollar “investment” as most people outside of the viewers of this video most likely will keep this or similar TV for 10 years (I know I would as my “temporary” TCL TV that reviews said would last at most 3 years before dying is still working 7+ years later - but being a Roku TV it is still getting firmware updates once a year or so).
Thanks for the review Caleb! The G4 does sound pretty special. Will you be getting the 97" version coming out soon to compare to the older 97" G2? I understand the 97" version doesn't have MLA tech so curious to see how the A11 processing goodness can make up for that at that size.
I have the 77G4 and 65A95L and i can tell you that pack a lot more punch than the A95L. That is because HDR and on the PS5, it has much more clarity and even some kind of 3D pop. It is even brighter in most cases than the X95K miniled which i also have. But the overall image is just amazing. Looks like they copied Sony and improved this. The A95L lowers it brightness on the PS5, the G4 just doesn’t. Much more enjoyable
This is the info I was looking for. I've already had an s90c, and 800a 8k, but they lack motion and upscaling. I'm looking for better and thought I'd get either an A95L or a G4. It's tough, because the S90D in 77" is cheaper than both, but I don't think Samsung has the upscaling, processing, definitely not the motion processing or the 3D effect.
I was gonna go with the Sony’s 95L but I couldn’t pass up on a brand new 65’ G4 during this past Cyber Monday from Best Buy. Saved $800 off original price. Gonna go pick it up this Saturday, I’m so stocked
@@martinchitembo1883 I find the audio pretty good on the E7 with no problems with the dialog. Infact, at times, I'd suggest the dialog is better on the E7 speakers than my surround system :)
When I bought the C2 a couple years back, the G series weren’t compelling enough to step up to. G series is now all I would consider from LG. Tempted to get one 👀
I have a old CX here and, man, I so glad that it kepts the old system interface. It's so more beautifull, so more easy to use! It doesn't get in the way of what your are watching. Seriously, it's the best OS for TVs I ever use.
Does this mean that you no longer need to adjust between Cinema and Cinema Home (bright or accurate) like you need to on the G3? Rather the G4 will automatically adjust if it should be in accurate mode or brighter depending on your viewing environment?
What exactly is so different about the G4 compared to the G3? If it is - as you say - significantly better than the G3, then why wasn't there a side by side comparison? Sure, the G4 has received some improvements like the new processor etc. But how does it look in reality? Can you even see the differences or do you need to use a magnifying glass? The G3 is currently available for a good price and I don't see any reason to pay significantly more money for the G4.
Great review! I am an owner of an 83" OLED G4 and S95TR matching Sound Bar - overall very happy, however is anyone experiencing weird sound issues when connected wirelessly via "WOW Orchestra" where you here the sound cut out for a millisecond randomly over time? Like it appears to the ear as a "cut out / popping" sound - it's driving me insane! Please escalate with LG if you think you might be able to help get this issue to their attention!
Just got mine yesterday, it’s incredible. Not as colourful as my S95c , but the processing is just as good as Sony’s. You will not regret this tv, go ahead and buy!
@@yeorges You can choose to ignore reality but what I stated is a fact. WRGB OLED is based off white light so when it gets brighter the white light is what increase the brightness so the colors will get duller. QD oled use quantum dots that emit color not white light so when it gets bright the colors will be brighter and more saturated than on a wrgb oled.
@@keithskoglund10 That is not possible beucase of tech limitations, the qd oled panel is supeior to lg because it uses quantum dots for brightness and not white light like lg.
Amazing review, I wonder what is the perfect diagonal, since the resolution for all of them remains the same. Can somebody see individual pixels on 77+ inches ?
I have the G4 55". And i have a a reasonably lit room. Can somebody give me the best picture quality settings? I have now the picture mode set to automatic switch on. Oled pixel brightness 50
Received and installed the 77 inch G4 in August. It is a good looking , high-quality tv with a great picture which is what I expected. I can’t say I’m exactly blown away by anything in particular though. It can get pretty bright though I guess I need to play with picture settings to get the full potential of the tv. TVs have all gotten so good that it is hard to see any huge differences over another. Watching 4k and 8k videos on UA-cam look outstanding but I think I have a problem with my Appletv connection where it looks better and brighter in HDR mode rather than in Dolby Vision mode. The App on the tv looks way better, Can’t figure that out but this will be a TV that I will keep for a long while.
Caleb you need to stop this, my house is starting to look like a Bestbuy! lol. The older models, like the A95L should still be in the contest. If an older tv wins best tv of the year, then so be it!
whats the tv like for just out of the box without having to adjust display settings for streaming youtube videos etc does it upscale the image much? and also watch the picture like for just watching normal tv?
that was a great review Caleb, I love the really thin bezel all around. one more thing Caleb, I can't quite make out that album behind you. thanks again Caleb 👍
Great review, as always. I bought my G4 a week ago, and it's been amazing, however, I and a couple of dozen other owners on avs forums have encountered a problem when switching from the inbuilt streaming apps (seems to only happen after watching for more than 10 mins) back to hdmi 2. The screen goes grainy with lines through it, and only unplugging the TV seems to fix it. Have you guys encountered this issue? I'm still waiting to hear back from lg for a solution. Thanks, and sorry for tagging on a reply. @Caleb_Denison
Can you please put out the comparison video between this tv and the a95l soon please, my return window is closing and I want to know which one to keep! Thank you! Love the channel!!!
Thank you LG, you're helping me saving a lot of money by not buying the A95L. :D I just made a list of which features are better on which TV and there are way more arguments to get the G4 over the A95L.
Caleb said on the Samsung S95C review that the HDR peak brightness is 1600+ nits & 1560 nits all window sizes. How can this be the brightest OLED when its 1500 nits? Rtings measured 1400 nits on this panel as well which is lower than the S95C still.
@@Sansho54 Good to know. I know all of this is AI driven but Rtings did the resting and they even found it peaks at 1400 nits in real testings. WOLED is the issue here. LG needs to step there game up. Relaying on old technology and then, high prices is not cutting it anymore. This is the first time in a decade that I jumped to Samsung S95D. QD-OLED, 144hz, Vsync, Low latency etc. etc.
@@PCHardwireI agree that it is better than the G4, for me Personally I’m leading to the G4 because the A95l doesn’t come in a 83 inch and the room I am putting it in is quite large.
Now more than ever… a showdown review between the Sony A95L and the LG G4 is needed. I am literally waiting to hear how Caleb weighs in before I make my purchase. Please, please, please do this showdown ASAP!
lol same here, the funny thing I was going to purchase a95L today but decided to see some review videos of it before going to store to increase the hype. Ended up seeing this video and now I can’t decide 😂
@ShadowArabesque I realized it when I played back videos from my youtube channel on the TVs. I can literally see the items in my house and they're ridiculously over saturated and wrong and on the samsung QD-OLED. The LG WOLED looks much more real.
Why does Caleb keep saying “the numbers don’t matter”? How does that make any sense? Do the numbers only not matter with the G4? That’s logic makes ZERO sense. It appears the G3 and G4 have similar brightness levels, and that’s why he keeps saying “the numbers don’t matter”. Why bother taking measurements if you are just going to say that the measurements are irrelevant.
i''m so gonna buy this when the G5 comes out hehe.
this guy gets it 😁
I just did that with the C3
But the G5 has MLA booster ++ and has a QD panel.
Amen brother
Yeah I'll be doing the same.
Man, i love Caleb's work. the writing, the passion, the homework you can tell he does prior, it's honestly why i keep watching these tv reviews even though i've already purchased a new tv. And now, i'm thinking twice about my choice. anyone want to buy a new a80L? haha. nothing wrong with it, I just want to try this G4.
New G4 77" coming in tomorrow upgraded from an 55" C1 🤟
Update here once you get it 🙏 was thinking of making the same upgrade
Congratulations, you made the right ✅️ decision 👏 👍 hope you will enjoy it for many years to come, absolutely the best tv with the highest contrast level on any tv with new processes and higher brightness 🌞 lg 😅all the way,
@@robertdawood9920 hope it will be worth the upgrade and that it will not be to big from 9 feet haha.
Congrats! Enjoy it! Its too expensive for me unfortunately.. otherwise i would have known
@Archangel0582 I won't either but I wanted a bigger screen, 55 to 77 will be huge upgrade.
3:48 You can turn on automatic updates in the LG App Store settings. That way, they update while you aren't using them and won't bother you every time you start up an app.
That's way too risky for people like myself who has unstable power or who's have limited power. (Between 10am to 3pm, my room power is turned off)
@@AntonioCunninghamthen don't do it LoL
@@AntonioCunningham It only does it while the TV is turned on. For instance, while you're using Netflix, Disney+ and Amazon Prime might update :)
@@Tomiply I don't want to take that risk. I've had devices brick because auto updates so I'm not taking that chance. Especially on an expensive TV
@@AntonioCunningham buy a UPS.
Just got the 83" installed yesterday! It is amazing. Upgraded from a 77" CX and it was a big difference in brightness and picture quality.
you say it. true more brightness. i have the lg g3. but the glossy screen with the cx the colors looks deeper. not worth to upgrade from my lg g3 to the g4! only 100 nits brighter in hdr with dynamic tonemapping. i wait till the lg g5!
@@jantjedewaal we always justify the mistakes we make!
Isnt the 83 a different panel? 😅
@@EDIIIZ not on the g4. G3 it was, sort of - G3 was lacking MLA in 83", G4 isn't
@@jackalclone1 oh thanks!
New LG G4 coming in this Friday. Upgrading from an LG 77 CX and I'm excited like a kid on Christmas. The CX was a TV that I held on to the longest and was my first OLED tv. I was a LED man for the longest time but ended up upgrading my tv's every year, which stopped when I bought the LG CX. I think the best LED TV I had was the Q9FN which I had for about a year and the tv's that followed it were just huge disappointments which finally made me try the LG CX, even though I was afraid of burn in, but after having it since 2020, I had absolutely none and I'm sold on OLED technology and would never go back to an LED tv since the picture quality is unmatched, no matter how many dimming zones they claim they have, it's just not the same as OLED.
How is it mate? I’m doing to same. Going from a CX55 to a G465
@@NotYourAvgJoe24 Unfortunately, the first set was defective and had to be exchanged but the replacement has been flawless and quite an improvement over the CX. I've rewatched a few movies already, Life of Pi being the first one since I think that one really shows off the tv, even though it's an older movie. Games on the PS5 and the Xbox look great and the ones that are capable of 120fps, definitely achieve that on this screen. Overall, I am extremely satisfied, especially considering that I paid as much for the 77CX back in 2020 as I did for the 77G4 this month. You won't be disappointed..
17:15 "If there is way to give an extra Gold Star.." - funny, that's exactly LG's old company name - GoldStar ;)
Lucky Goldstar!
Lucky Strike 😂😂😂😂@@entreprenerd1963
@@entreprenerd1963 After they merged with Lucky Chemical 🙂
TIL! I remember GoldStar, but didn't know it was the same company. Thanks for the lesson.
I always remember as a kid that the Goldstar TVs that you would see in the store were the cheap TVs. You didn’t even think about buying them because you knew they were gonna be crap. They sure have came along way.
What LG I’ve done with G4 is not to increase the brightness but improve the quality overall by making subtle improvements that is visible. Just by increasing brightness doesn’t make the TV better but how it handles near dark areas & shadow details. Also better posterisation mitigation which is common in streaming and sat TVs.
It’s actually even better than Sony‘s Bravia 9, the OLED feels more natural and smoother and the color saturation is amazing…
Meanwhile the other TV's have brigher HDR and more HDR impact as a result. I know. I swapped from S95C to G4. It is not as bright with HDR highlights and more so in game mode.
@@exhibitD79I am swapping now from the D90 Samsung to the G4
I wall mounted a 55" G4 for a gaming monitor with a 4090. I sit about 5 or 6 feet away, and it's glorious.
This is my dream setup too! Just curious to ask what games u are playing to see its glorious power. Cyberpunk, horizon, etc?
@Joonz14
Yea I play both of those. Everything looks amazing on it because it's an OLED and it's actually bright. Windows 11 even does auto HDR on most games that don't have HDR and it looks excellent.
I just bought this TV the LG 77inch G4 And it's the beautifulest picture that I've seen on a TV
Ah yes, the most "beautifulest" picture in the world!! 😆
Planning to get a 77" G4 next month to upgrade from my current 55" B9 OLED. Still struggling because the B9 looks so good that i don't know if I'll notice too much of a difference
I love the magic remote. Only thing I’d really change is having backlit buttons. That it definitely needs
It could also do with being in brushed steel just to make it look and feel more premium.
I detest it. Multi thousand-dollar tv and they can't be bothered to make the remote backlit, something a $100 tv has.
@ well looking over everything the tv has and does and my only complaint is that the remote buttons aren’t backlit is pretty minor compared to all the negatives the other tvs do have
@@stephenearly4057 The only thing it has that other remotes don't is the motion control. That is gimmicky and inconsistent.
Not being backlit is not minor as it means everything besides the D pad is unusable when watching at night / light controlled room.
I need help with upgrading to the G4. I have a 65 inch LG G1 and I want to upgrade to the G4. How can I sell it? or are there companies that allows me to upgrade?
Currently, have the 55 LGCX hands down the best TV i have ever owned when its time to get a new tv ill be getting another LG for sure . Glad to see the G4 is a power house
Hi, thanks for this informative Video! I am a proud owner of the LG G4 in 65 Inch. Ist is an excellent TV. Greetings from Germany!
Just ordered my 65 inch g4 after having the same tv for the past 10 years 😅 supper excited
Wish i was yu
@robinsmith8918 yea definitely worth it !!! 🤩
I just done exactly that today 65 G4 ( from Richer Sounds In the UK) AND they throw in an LG wireless surround system free with this TV (£2199 cash and the sound system is normally £699 so a decent mid range one) pretty good deal I reckon
Just got the 65inch on Black Friday. So excited to get this bad boy
how do u like it
I ordered mine earlier this week during Cyber Monday, gonna go pick it up this Saturday, I’m so stocked
How much did you pay,if you don,t mind me asking? It,s 1800 euro now on sale where I live🙂
@@snorkelgutt yea no worries, I payed about $2700 here in the states. Like I said in my first comment it was on sale and $800 dollars off of original price so I really couldn’t pass that up.
@@Scuba_steve0487 thanks, I,m really tempted getting this G4, the price is right, and time to sell my C1 I guess.
Finally i have been waiting for this great review 👏
For the older generation, I’m still rockin’ a 2005 Pioneer Elite Kuro PRO-1150HD.
I’ve been wanting to upgrade to 4K for a few years, and I’ve been eyeballin’ the LG panels. I think it may be time.
Heh, your comment feels directed at me, coming from a 2006 Panasonic 42" Plasma - which is still working perfectly fine. Have been considering 4K for quite a few years and today made the leap to a G4, should come somewhere next week. Can't wait to see what a 18 year leap in tech looks like. Also, ironically it's cheaper than what I paid for the Panasonic. Hope that this one last for the next 18 years :)
Just upgraded from the C2 to G4. Amazing.
Finally I can upgrade from my LG C8 OLED. Been waiting for LG to have the top TV. I wanted the Sony A95L but wife won't accept anything without a magic remote.
😂 "wife wants magic 🪄 remote"
Good one ✅
Terrible excuse lol
Same position tbone! My girlfriend loves the magic remote and webos in LG OLEDs. We also have an a80j in the house and she hates it because of the interface and lack of a magic remote.
Sony is best.
The A95L is superior to the the G4. Especially because of the QD-OLED in the A95L and the even better picture processing. While HGIG support is something that Sony lacks compared to LG.
For Magic remote I stay with LG for years ! Can not imagine remote without this cursor
I bought an LG TV just for the Magic remote but the OS sucks......... I bought an Apple TV and that remote rocks. Suck it LG
@@crashn2me105 what do you think sucks about the WebOS?
Agreed
I hate it lol
The "Magic Remote" is either a love it or hate it type of thing. It drives me crazy, but I know some folks like you who LOVE it.
The picture looks amazing!! If I were in the market for a new TV, this would be at the top of my list. What a great review!
not worth to upgrade if you have the lg g3. fair review is at avsforums!
how is g4’s upscaling compared to Sony a95l/bravia 9
G4 low profile looks really good
We need a head to head with the A95L!
I want to see Bravia 9 review/comparison. One of those two sets I'm getting this year coming from LG E9 oled
Same here. Patiently waiting for the Bravia 9 to come out to see the comparisons...
the Bravia 9 will not touch an OLED screen. So go ahead and buy the LG.
No point comparing it to a mini led. Oled wins every time.
@@Buzza235 in terms of 3D look I'm sure G4 will win. But E9 doesn't have this 3d effect and bravia 9 might be good enough when it comes to black levels,blooming control whilst providing bigger more immersive panel and higher brightness/APL (it would be 77" g4 vs 85" bravia as they are similar in cost).
@@gosman949 Oled cannot properly display 4k nit content because its not bright enough so it clip highlights and you lose details, the bravia 9 will have better details and color in hdr highlights.
Can I still buy a separate ATSC 3.0 tuner and connect to TV?
The picture does look great. My two questions are how does it look with regular SDR from cable or UA-cam Tv? And does this extra brightness help in really dark scenes? Even OLEDs have issues with this in real world scenarios.
if you're considering this TV for watching SDR from cable or yt TV, don't buy it. Buy a Sony X80L or X90L, will be better value for money for your requirement.
What are you smoking,
LG is king in upscaling and smoothing sdr content @@Sas-wk9lj
@@Sas-wk9lj Thanks, I do watch a lot of 4k movies but since the tv will be used in the family room, SDR content is watched pretty often too. I have a dedicated home theater room for my personal enjoyment but family movies should look good too. I do appreciate and agree with your suggestions though I might just go with the 85 inch Bravia 7 or 9. Sony’s upscaling is the best in my opinion but I was hoping to stay with OLED that might be a bit brighter than my current A80J.
What do you think about the Sound compared to the a80l?
Another great review! Love the channel.
I have G4 83 (turned in G3) and man let me say… this tv rocks. All colors, brightness, smooth gradation etc. and I run PS5 with God of War Ragnarock and have all SONOS (2 subs, 2 back speakers, and 1 SONOS Arc) so my set up is done. Totally worth it. Just mad my studs on the wall couldn’t fit the flush mount in the house. That’s ok.
your tv cost more than your apartment. Save you money on TVs and buy a house!!
@gosman949 you sound like a real estate agent.
@gosman949 some of us have enough money to do both. Sit down old man.
any idea which is the best 75 inch tv?
Every LG OLED tv have a 5 year warranty. Atleast where i live.
Had some dead pixels developing on my LG C9 i bought in 2020 and they replaced the panel recently at my home for free. Stellar service!
Not every!! My C7 did not. Only newer g series!
Also … unclear, is this the same "5-year limited warranty" on the panel they've offered on G-series, and they now specify _long term image retention_ coverage, or is this a new, expanded "bumper-to-bumper" 5-year warranty?
Well thats dissappointing as hell if they removed the 5 year warranty of the C series OLED
@@DainHunter what five year warranty?
@@ChromeJob When i bought my C9 in 2020 i got a free 5 year panel warranty.
LG no longer offer this warranty on the C lineup sadly. The warranty now only cover G and Z series of OLEDs
How come he used DE 2000 for HDR measurements? Isn’t the best practice to use the ITP formula for HDR?
Excellent review this go round and also I'm loving the fun energy of these reviews lately. This might be the first time I go for the full fat OLED and the G4 is on my list. I really want to watch the peak OLEDS go against the peak Mini-LEDs. Can you make a head to head series for this new gen?
I have the LG 65 inch C2 And I was completely happy with it. The picture was nice. The sound is good and everything was okay until I bought. The 77 inch G4 And now my LG C2 Does not look as good anymore. This TV's Picture quality and processing are amazing. Even the low quality streaming is up graded to a beautiful picture on this new LG G4
Just upgraded from an 8 year old 50" Panasonic LED to a 55" LG G4. Having it wall mounted as well. Also got the LG G1 soundbar free as part of the deal worth £750, and a free 6 year warranty from Richer Sounds
I have the last Panasonic Plasma (🥃🪦) and finally think I'm ready to upgrade this year. I'm sad, and happy 😢🎉
How do you find the soundbar, just got the same deal!
@danielwolstenholme9649
It was on the website, it said under the details of the TV that there was a free LG G1 soundbar included in the deal. Ring Richer Sounds if you can't find it. The only other thing I can think of is that the offer is over and you may have missed it
@@Arseverse Sorry not sure if I made it clear, I did order the same thing earlier today! Should arrive next week, how are you enjoying yours so far?
@danielwolstenholme9649
My TV and soundbar are coming on Tuesday and will be wall mounted by the installer who was recommended to me by Richer Sounds. I'm going to sell the soundbar as I have a Marantz AV receiver paired with Wharfedale speakers. How is yours? I'm very excited to watch 4K UHD blue rays, play on my PS5 and Xbox SX
Visiting Best Buy today and I really hope this will be on display with the A95L. It’s such a tough choice 😩
First world problems be like
No reviews I saw ran into the issue, but be aware that there's an issue reported by several owners (including myself) on various forums (avsforum, avforums) when TV is hooked to an AV which handles the various sources through HDMI2. Sometimes (it's very random), switching to this input gives a strange fuzzy picture and the only workaround is to switch off for few mins.
Hopefully just some teething issues that LG will fix through firmware, should they acknowledge the problem.
Thanks for writing about that issue.
Same issue here. HDMI2 issues with distorted picture
I spent some time on the phone with LG's testing department in AL. The tester was able to replicate the issue and stated he would be submitting a report to LG HQ for a firmware fix. This was in early April when the G4 was first released (but after the Day One update of 3.10.27 released on 4/5/24). Since then, and based on the Korean firmware site, there is no subsequent update. Initially, my reports on various sites were received with doubts and dismissals. Since then, there are many similar reports along with pictures and videos of the exact problem. I also sent a PM to Caleb before he recorded his G4 review and he stated he would look into it. I don't know if his testing unit had these issues, but based on my experience having purchased 3 G4s which all had the same HDMI 2 problems, this is a real and troubling issue which makes this otherwise spectacular TV problematic.
@@pkalellis Do you think there will be a fix for this or do we abandon ship and return the TVs? I am reading about tons of returns to Best Buy on AVS forum
@@rjaraiedi I still have several weeks in my return window so I will wait. But what's unfortunate is that the LG reviewers are giving glowing reviews without addressing this very prevent issue. If they discussed this issue in their reviews, maybe this would push LG to move faster on addressing this issue . . . . One can hope.
I love the video and it says stand is possible but I can’t find it for the G4 83in TV. Any ideas??
Dave
I love TV reviews on this channel but I wish gaming would be at least mentioned in some capacity given that these TVs are so expensive and a lot of people (including me) would like to hear something about it. Anyways other than that I think reviews are really great.
the G3 was considered as one of the best TVs for gaming... and the G4 is even better
Ordered the 65 today.
I'm looking forward to a g4 v a95l v s95d shootout (and maybe bravia 9 tossed in too)
you want to spend some money, but you don't know on what, that's the kind of situation you're in. You don't really need a TV, you want to spend on the idea that you got no. 1 TV.
@@Sas-wk9lj I'm curious about how the tech has been evolving in different parts of the industry - same reason I watch PC component reviews regularly even if I'm not in the market to buy anything. Not everyone chases reviews for self-validation
Absolutely loving my 65” G4. Coming from a C9, They’ve finally fixed their truemotion issues.
have a 65" C9 with over 6k hours, still runs great. no burn in or any other issues. amazing tv's. would love to upgrade, but there is really no reason to as it works so well. Of course a newer C4 or G4 would be much brighter, am looking forward to upgrading. Can I ask, what do you do with your old C9 or old TV's in general?
My C9 has been great. Like all tech, there was a couple of little things that bugged me but overall an amazing tv.
I usually pass my old TVs down to my parents, but this time I decided to put it in the spare bedroom.
Was the interpolation on the c9 bad?
@@paulcox2447 It wasn't the best, well to my eyes. Struggled on certain types of shots.
Since all TVs get reviewed very early in their firmware upgrade cycle, I think it would be useful to have generational comparisons where you have, for example, G3 with latest firmware and G4 with current firmware.
I would also like someone, with time on the their hands, to create a website with full firmware upgrade data for each tv set and manufacturer with a curve for features added, features removed, bugs fixed - because at prices like these I want to know that manufacturer is committed to maintaining and improving your multi-thousand dollar “investment” as most people outside of the viewers of this video most likely will keep this or similar TV for 10 years (I know I would as my “temporary” TCL TV that reviews said would last at most 3 years before dying is still working 7+ years later - but being a Roku TV it is still getting firmware updates once a year or so).
I've had this stewing in my Watch Later folder since May. Glad I finally made time to watch it. Definitely keeping the G4 at the top of my watch list.
Thanks for the review Caleb! The G4 does sound pretty special. Will you be getting the 97" version coming out soon to compare to the older 97" G2? I understand the 97" version doesn't have MLA tech so curious to see how the A11 processing goodness can make up for that at that size.
Excellent review! You've got me saving my pennies, nickles, and quarters now! You HAD ME at ALMOST AS GOOD AS A REFERENCE MONITOR!
I have the 77G4 and 65A95L and i can tell you that pack a lot more punch than the A95L. That is because HDR and on the PS5, it has much more clarity and even some kind of 3D pop. It is even brighter in most cases than the X95K miniled which i also have. But the overall image is just amazing. Looks like they copied Sony and improved this. The A95L lowers it brightness on the PS5, the G4 just doesn’t. Much more enjoyable
how is the sound on the G4 compared to the world class sound on the A95L?
@@gosman949 i use the q990b as my soundsystem with sound ai pro, that sounds really good. The TV speakers itself aren’t as good as the X95L
@@gosman949the G4 sounds better.
This is the info I was looking for. I've already had an s90c, and 800a 8k, but they lack motion and upscaling. I'm looking for better and thought I'd get either an A95L or a G4. It's tough, because the S90D in 77" is cheaper than both, but I don't think Samsung has the upscaling, processing, definitely not the motion processing or the 3D effect.
Hey, how is the stutter? Are they fix the 24p stutter in muvies ? Dts in sound?
You sure LG didn't pull a fast one and sent you a calibrated set?
All reviewers small and big say it’s calibrated out of the box. So nope
I was gonna go with the Sony’s 95L but I couldn’t pass up on a brand new 65’ G4 during this past Cyber Monday from Best Buy. Saved $800 off original price. Gonna go pick it up this Saturday, I’m so stocked
Wish they'd revert to the built in bar of dedicated front facing speakers as per the E7.
That speaker on the tv was a beast powered by Harman kardon,so good like a cheap sounder.
@@martinchitembo1883 I find the audio pretty good on the E7 with no problems with the dialog. Infact, at times, I'd suggest the dialog is better on the E7 speakers than my surround system :)
@@martinchitembo1883Harman Kardon got bought out by Samsung.
Is the stand hard to assemble?
When I bought the C2 a couple years back, the G series weren’t compelling enough to step up to.
G series is now all I would consider from LG. Tempted to get one 👀
Yeah, I hear that. That's how I feel now too. The g series is the only way to go if getting lg oled.
let's have common pool money and get g4
G2 was already ahead of C2
Is it axiium/Wisa compatible??? I have Klipsch speakers.
I have a old CX here and, man, I so glad that it kepts the old system interface. It's so more beautifull, so more easy to use! It doesn't get in the way of what your are watching. Seriously, it's the best OS for TVs I ever use.
Is a Loewe Inspire exactly...?
Great video. Any chance of doing a Bravia 9 vs G4? Im really curious about how the Bravia 9 will stack up against the G4. Thanks.
Same here.
Does this mean that you no longer need to adjust between Cinema and Cinema Home (bright or accurate) like you need to on the G3? Rather the G4 will automatically adjust if it should be in accurate mode or brighter depending on your viewing environment?
What exactly is so different about the G4 compared to the G3? If it is - as you say - significantly better than the G3, then why wasn't there a side by side comparison? Sure, the G4 has received some improvements like the new processor etc. But how does it look in reality? Can you even see the differences or do you need to use a magnifying glass? The G3 is currently available for a good price and I don't see any reason to pay significantly more money for the G4.
did you not watch the entire video?
@@gosman949Not everyone shares the same budget. Read before commenting 🤡
Great review! I am an owner of an 83" OLED G4 and S95TR matching Sound Bar - overall very happy, however is anyone experiencing weird sound issues when connected wirelessly via "WOW Orchestra" where you here the sound cut out for a millisecond randomly over time? Like it appears to the ear as a "cut out / popping" sound - it's driving me insane! Please escalate with LG if you think you might be able to help get this issue to their attention!
Great tv. Amy smart person will wait for the G5 and grab a expensive G4 TV without "brand new tax"
How does it do with 24fps movement? I have an A2 and 24 fps media is a choppy mess.
2:11 that is not correct. It has ~4-5ms input lag. Not 0.1ms. That would be the pixel response time which is a different thing from "input lag".
Want the G4 this year.😊
me too
Can I be comfortable that put of the box with energy saver mode turned off, I will have a great picture as is?
6 year warranty on all TVs at Richer Sounds in UK 👍
I just said that to my wife watching this on my 2 month old C3.
😮
Nice review. Concise. Thank you!
If I was an L.G display executive, this review would make me blush 😅
you just know they're watching these
Just got mine yesterday, it’s incredible.
Not as colourful as my S95c , but the processing is just as good as Sony’s. You will not regret this tv, go ahead and buy!
I have a G3. This worth the upgrade?
No
Why didn't they add MLA to C5?
LG is KING when it comes to picture quality. I've seen the G4 in person and it's just breathtaking.
great tv but not as good as the sony a95l when it comes to color volume and bright highlights in hdr.
I own the a95l and will get a g4 to do a direct comparison. Seems like g4 might be better regardless of technical specs
I don’t believe you
@@yeorges You can choose to ignore reality but what I stated is a fact. WRGB OLED is based off white light so when it gets brighter the white light is what increase the brightness so the colors will get duller. QD oled use quantum dots that emit color not white light so when it gets bright the colors will be brighter and more saturated than on a wrgb oled.
@@keithskoglund10 That is not possible beucase of tech limitations, the qd oled panel is supeior to lg because it uses quantum dots for brightness and not white light like lg.
Amazing review, I wonder what is the perfect diagonal, since the resolution for all of them remains the same. Can somebody see individual pixels on 77+ inches ?
I love my G3, I couldn't wait any longer. The G4 looks awesome though.
Right? It feels like you can never win with tech. My G3 isn’t even a year old yet and I see this. I don’t regret, it’s still a fantastic TV.
@@cmdnoob Differences between them are almost nothing. Enjoy the G3, look at upgrading after some years go by to a G10 with QDEL.
I have the G4 55". And i have a a reasonably lit room. Can somebody give me the best picture quality settings? I have now the picture mode set to automatic switch on. Oled pixel brightness 50
It truly does look incredible
Received and installed the 77 inch G4 in August. It is a good looking , high-quality tv with a great picture which is what I expected. I can’t say I’m exactly blown away by anything in particular though. It can get pretty bright though I guess I need to play with picture settings to get the full potential of the tv. TVs have all gotten so good that it is hard to see any huge differences over another. Watching 4k and 8k videos on UA-cam look outstanding but I think I have a problem with my Appletv connection where it looks better and brighter in HDR mode rather than in Dolby Vision mode. The App on the tv looks way better, Can’t figure that out but this will be a TV that I will keep for a long while.
Caleb you need to stop this, my house is starting to look like a Bestbuy! lol. The older models, like the A95L should still be in the contest. If an older tv wins best tv of the year, then so be it!
Is there a stand available for the 77" G4? I do not want to wall mount the TV.
I hope you make a video about the comparison between the C2 (which I own) and a C4. Is it worth the upgrade or keep my current tv?
C4 is a little brighter and has a little more color, but the C2 isn't far behind. Probably not worth the upgrade.
Is there any difference between the different sizes like in the samsung 90-95 tvs?
LG would be Lucky to receive a GoldStar from you!😅
whats the tv like for just out of the box without having to adjust display settings for streaming youtube videos etc does it upscale the image much? and also watch the picture like for just watching normal tv?
that was a great review Caleb, I love the really thin bezel all around. one more thing Caleb, I can't quite make out that album behind you. thanks again Caleb 👍
Jimmy Smith, The Sermon
@@Caleb_Denison thanks Caleb
Great review, as always. I bought my G4 a week ago, and it's been amazing, however, I and a couple of dozen other owners on avs forums have encountered a problem when switching from the inbuilt streaming apps (seems to only happen after watching for more than 10 mins) back to hdmi 2. The screen goes grainy with lines through it, and only unplugging the TV seems to fix it. Have you guys encountered this issue? I'm still waiting to hear back from lg for a solution. Thanks, and sorry for tagging on a reply. @Caleb_Denison
Is there any way Sony android x85k model lock app such as UA-cam
Can you please put out the comparison video between this tv and the a95l soon please, my return window is closing and I want to know which one to keep! Thank you! Love the channel!!!
هل معالج هذه الشاشة يرفع دقة وجودة الصوره على الستلايت؟؟
Thank you LG, you're helping me saving a lot of money by not buying the A95L. :D
I just made a list of which features are better on which TV and there are way more arguments to get the G4 over the A95L.
I hope you’re seeing the TVs in person before pulling the trigger on one or the other 👍
Lmao $400 bucks saving. You’re rich now 😂😂
More like 1500,
Bought an 77" for €3400@@Jordanfiend361
@@Jordanfiend361 sounds like a comment from someone who can't afford either TV. 😃
Is it worth it to upgrade from CX to the G4? 55"
I can’t wait to buy this is in 2027!
I already have a C7 from 2027.
Caleb said on the Samsung S95C review that the HDR peak brightness is 1600+ nits & 1560 nits all window sizes. How can this be the brightest OLED when its 1500 nits? Rtings measured 1400 nits on this panel as well which is lower than the S95C still.
As Caleb said in the video, it’s reacting to real content differently than test windows. Sony has been doing this as well with their OLEDs since 2021.
@@Sansho54 Good to know. I know all of this is AI driven but Rtings did the resting and they even found it peaks at 1400 nits in real testings. WOLED is the issue here. LG needs to step there game up. Relaying on old technology and then, high prices is not cutting it anymore. This is the first time in a decade that I jumped to Samsung S95D. QD-OLED, 144hz, Vsync, Low latency etc. etc.
@j.rfrazier1855 rtings has real world content brightness measurements and it's still not the brightest oled
In the market right now between this and a95L
I’m in the same boat. I’m leaning more towards the G4 only because the A95l doesn’t have a 83 inch version.
A95l is better. Trust that. G4 is not what Caleb is describing. I’ve had both side by side. A95l just looks better.
@@PCHardwire Please elaborate.
@@PCHardwireI agree that it is better than the G4, for me Personally I’m leading to the G4 because the A95l doesn’t come in a 83 inch and the room I am putting it in is quite large.
If u see both next to each other the A95l looks slightly better
Is there a "defeat" feature on this LG if you want to use your own speaker set-up?
It would be great if LG could incorporate QD-OLED technology into its panels
They're using MLA technology instead. That massively boosts brightness as well as color luminance.
@@Icipher4 True.
@@Icipher4compared to the previous G3/2 sure but still is much less in the color gamut and volume department compared to QD
QD-oled = Oversaturated colour with pink tint as a bonus
@@garryj6311 Source?
Now more than ever… a showdown review between the Sony A95L and the LG G4 is needed. I am literally waiting to hear how Caleb weighs in before I make my purchase. Please, please, please do this showdown ASAP!
lol same here, the funny thing I was going to purchase a95L today but decided to see some review videos of it before going to store to increase the hype. Ended up seeing this video and now I can’t decide 😂
😂😂😂There are too many QD-OLED and Sony fans who can't stand the fact that their favorite one has been defeated.
QD-OLED colors look terrible so thank god. SO over saturated.
@@dougclendening5896 Omg I thought I was the only person who thought that
@ShadowArabesque I realized it when I played back videos from my youtube channel on the TVs.
I can literally see the items in my house and they're ridiculously over saturated and wrong and on the samsung QD-OLED.
The LG WOLED looks much more real.
Why does Caleb keep saying “the numbers don’t matter”? How does that make any sense? Do the numbers only not matter with the G4? That’s logic makes ZERO sense. It appears the G3 and G4 have similar brightness levels, and that’s why he keeps saying “the numbers don’t matter”. Why bother taking measurements if you are just going to say that the measurements are irrelevant.
I have a 77” G2 should I upgrade to a 77” G4 or is that just crazy to do?