Pac literally had the number one record in the world when he was in prison he could have came out and signed with anybody and still been super relevant.
Not really its not that simple…..Pac was old news in 96! Rap had shifted to a new era. A new sound…Pac was still sounding like 1991-92. Death Row/Drama/East vs West really brought his career interest and momentum! Nobody was really thinking about Pac. It was wayyyyyyyyyyy too many classic albums dropping in 95/96 ….u had to be there! Its a lot of exaggeration about Pac’s importance he was really just another rapper amongst thousands
That shit is cap lmao, pac did not need mobb depp to stay relevent, pac was way bigger than mobb depp. mobb deep needed to diss pac to stay relevent lmao, other way around
@@TheSupremeDunk95 he dropped a number one album… say what again? Were you even alive? In the black community he was on FIRE in 95/96 😂 the hottest he’d EVER been… cut it out
@@Tomfrom_woodsbefore because he was always in trouble and you add the governmental pressure being put on labels at the time like time warner and you’ll see why a controversial act like pac might make labels pause… But, all that said he was a multi platinum artist by 93
Niggaz be saying anything nowadays, pac not even here to defend himself anymore so niggas can just say anything because no one can check them. like that BS michael jackson story lmao.
There’s context…Pac was old news at that point….his era was 1990-1994 he was apart of the west coast/G Funk era….Mobb Deep was the NEXT ERA the new wave 1995-99! The era of Biggie, Wu, Nas, etc. They were the next wave that was taking over! I knew about Pac in 8th-9th-10th grade….When Mobb Deep came out with “Infamous” I was a senior in highschool/freshman in college! Tupac was played out by that time….only the cornballs and squares listened to Pac at that point. The cutting edge older crowd 18-26 in college and in the streets we were NOT listening to no Tupac in 95-99…..we were deep into Big, Wu Tang, Mobb Deep, Lox, The Roots, CNN, Ras Kass, etc….Tupac was old news. We listened to Pac, Snoop, etc back in highschool and junior high 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@TheSupremeDunk Was it really like that (genuine question) ? Based on numbers, Tupac went back to his NY roots with Me Against the World, and that album went platinum + outsold even Bruce Springsteen while he was in prison. When he got out and released All Eyes on Me, the shit went 5x platinum in 3 months, before he released any form of a diss track against Biggie or any NY rapper. How was he old news?
Prodigy spoke on this when he was in his car talking about pac he said him and pac would have been rocking in present time he wasnt ready for what pac was trying to do at the time. Majesty stretch brother gave him a book that pac used to right his ideas in and he said he had similar ideas but 2pacs iseas was more advanced and organized.
Calling cap. Pac had his son place already by the time his first album dropped. By the time Pac was beefing with Mobb, he was way more known and sucessful than them. The Infamous is a hip hop classic but it didn’t initially move units like that
Rifkind tells a story of how they actually loved each other and mecca redirects to the verse dissing Pac then sends out an rip to prodigy but none for Pac. Nasty work.
Some of these NY dudes be hating on Pac heavy. He's not here to defend himself and Suge is incarcerated. All of sudden everyone has something to say. Where were y'all at in 96? Silent
I'm calling 🧢, Pac thought mobb deep dissed him on survival of the fittest, that why he dissed them. He was the biggest rapper in 96 so didn't need attention. GTFOH
Pac had no beef with the “east coast”. Stop it! He was doing an album with Buckshot, Tek and Steele during the so called beef. Y’all get on my nerves with the bullshit!
That story sounds suspect as hell. Tupac was coming off multiple multi-platinum albums, 3 movies and a bunch of other shit and he needed mobb deep who had one album that barely went gold to be relevant? Dudes just say what they want about ‘pac now that he’s dead. And then homie reciting the Tupac diss. Smh. Rest in Peace to the great Tupac Amaru Sakur
It’s the 90’s. Every celebrity that wasn’t named Michael Jackson / prince / Whitney Houston / were not as big as we think they were. Today’s relevant isn’t the same as 90’s relevant. It makes perfect sense. No social media/ no high speed internet/ and rap was not as international as it is now…
Yes, beautiful as you eloquently stated they were basically gloating about the diss, when this came out, I remember listening to both 2Pac and Mobb Deep and yes, the song was hard by MD but like you said to 30 years later, be gloating off of the lyrics and then not only on this episode, but many episodes them directly saying that 2Pac did not have lyrics and even when they had people from New York up there saying 2Pac was known all around the world he was held in the same regards as a Bob Marley They just look like they seen a ghost and of course they had no supporting dialogue and just would move onto the next subject.! When I’m watching the news I listen very careful when I’m watching these podcast. I see the body language. I listen to some of the terminology that’s being pushed and even if people From New York is reading these comments I think they should be fair and do the same. The bias is unreal.! we all like who we like, and in our culture, we don’t have to always tear down one artist to big up the other one !
Notice Mecca asked why nobody didn’t come to Steve’s office. Mecca knows Steve’s family is “connected” but he still asked that question. But Mecca talks about Vlad asking those kinds of questions.
I love how quiet the shop is when the convo isn’t opinion based. Tryna catch every single gem dropped. This dudes dad signed James Brown and the first rap band. Was literally born to dominate the music industry. Never had to worry about money a day in his life. Good for him.
All Bias aside let’s look at the numbers at that time & era . Tupac - Strictly 4 My Niggas ( Release Feb 93 ) Certified Gold in Sept 93 Certified Platinum in April 95 - Me Against The World ( Released Mar 95) • Certified Platinum in July of 95 - All Eyes On Me (Released Feb 96 ) • Certified 5 X Platinum in April 96. - Makaveli / Killumanti 7 Day Theory (Released Nov 23rd 96) • 2X Platinum Jan 97 • 3X Platinum April 97 - Mobb Deep The Infamous (Released April 95) Certified Gold June 95 Certified Platinum Feb 2020 Hell on Earth (Released Nov 96 ) Certified Gold April 97 . And this isn’t to slander or shade, this are the numbers and straight facts. How did Tupac need to Diss Mobb Deep to be relevant. Pac was on the Biggest Hip Hop label in the industry at the time ( Death Row) & even before that, he was already a Platinum selling artist. Now I can understand if Pac wasn’t as big in New York, cause like I said before New York was focused on New York artist & always had that bias. But the numbers do not Lie. At the time Pac was out selling Nas, Mobb Deep, Big & almost every other rapper on the east coast at the time. It’s 2025, the false narratives gotta stop, same with the coastal bias nonsense, especially if the numbers & facts are available for everyone to see.
Mobb Deep Infamous only sold 7,100 albums first week. Tupac definitely didn't need to diss them to stay relevant. He made them bigger because I'd never heard of them until he dissed them.
@micahwest2793 Exactly, facts, he didn’t need to diss them to stay relevant at all. & In Havoc own words from a interview he did “The nigga was saying our names. I didn’t know what the fuck the beef was about. I didn’t even care. I was like damn, did you hear that? 2Pac dissing us. We about to sell some records.”
Dead Prez was just mentioned at the end. Please continue on that note. These Hip-Hop stories don't end, especially when it comes to 2pac. It always sounds like he's lived multiple lives, Buddhist-like.
Pac was not relavant as people think in 1995….Hiphop is about whats NEW whats fresh! In 95 Pac was outdated. Pac had been out since 1990 i was in 8th grade! In 95 I was a FRESHMAN IN COLLEGE!! Think about that! Mobb Deep was that NEXT shit….thats all we was playing was Mobb Deep, Wu, Big, AZ, etc…..nobody wanted to hear no fuckin Tupac. Except old heads and females. My stepdad was listening to Tupac gtfoh hahaga
@@TheSupremeDunk mobb deep were making noise in hip hop, still far from mainstream. Pac was everywhere, MTV news was reporting about his every move. Stop lying to people
@@TheSupremeDunk Pac was the biggest thing smoking in 1995. Why would he need mobb deep. Man Foh with this cap. He was already a movie star and had the number 1 album in the country. Beat out the Beatles. But he needed mobb deep. 😂😂😂yeah okay
1:54 start of the video!! Jesus Christ it be torture watching 2-3 minute long intros!! Especially of a Another man trying to show his outfits off and shyt 🤦♂️
@@allgasnobrakes919 bruh, why so hostile? Just sharin some NY History. Anyway back in the days , late 80s when Delancey Street was at its peak, we Ain't have no respect for the south we perceived y'all as corny. No offense, just a little history. 😊
@@ronalddesjardins3547 Mobb first 2 albums barely sold 200k first week together. Pac all eyes on me sold over 600k first week and 5 million in 3 months. y'all gotta stop putting pac against these rappers
I’m from the East Coast! Is narcissism and biased automatically built in the DNA of someone from New York and I’m not saying because there’s people who know hip-hop don’t actually have this type of bias! But people saying and naming the artist or groups that were bigger than Tupac are ridiculous ! Even if the record sales would’ve been equal, which, of course it was not out of all of them combined but his music was more diverse, and he talked about issues and he tried to uplift people a lot his music! It appears in many cases, the circumference of the five burrows limit of is the intelligence!!!
I hear you and I agree about PAC but it makes sense it’s always a business and PAC was smart about it he even said his advice to rappers was “rap for the b!tches bc niggas don’t buy albums b!tches do” so I believe him when he said for PAC it was just as much as a business decision as it was genuine beef. I’m not saying PAC didn’t have issues with them other ninjas I’m just saying he definitely saw the business implications it could have. RIP 2Pac the GOAT
Rifkind has this way of telling these stories where his expression always look like he’s impressed with himself, but also surprised like he can’t believe it happened lol
Math Hoffa it is evident that your platform is so pro NY, like 2Pac couldn’t have taken out mob easily on a track ! You guys are repeating the lyrics with so much joy like it’s some type of badge of honor! This is the attitude that really created the East Coast West Coast beef. It wasn’t the problems that bad boy and death row it was the superiority complex of certain people out of NY! I’m from your side. I seen it in real time, I’ve been around the same people.!! The only problem I have is if you really don’t like Tupac & the West Coast like Kendrick come out and just say it !! close to 30 years later with all the super analysis, the critique of his lyrics by saying he’s not lyrical. You would’ve think by now that you guys would’ve came up with a blueprint to show that you could do it better, haven’t seen it. !!
Yeah he did. Remember they said BIG basically asked him what you doing at one of the shows and Pac said trying to sell records. I don't think he was just on some pure clout chase shit but a lot of it was him checking the slick talk disrespect that no one mentions anymore that went on when he was locked up.
@ Steve is just repeating what big said and others said. As many people do in everyday life. That’s how stories always go. If pac said this IF (because big never said this when Pac was alive). He definitely didn’t go around saying it to everybody
Everyone was intimidated by pac he was on a different level to his whole competition let’s keep it real, I’m a New York baby and I have to keep it real pac nas mobb deep jayz biggie was not on pacs level at that in the 90s pac ticked allllllllll boxes
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 pac dissed mobb deep when he came home why did pac have to dis them to remain relevant he was literally the biggest rapper in the world 😂😂😂😂😂😂. Nikkas talk alot of shit but after im gone because the fear me in the physical form.
Pac was famous in 94 but for the hip hop scene in nyc pac wasnt no factor. Mobbdeep was big back then. Pac dissed all the bigdogs from nyc fuggees big nas mobbeep. Before he went to jail pac wasnt part of hip hop royalty conversations. They all was
@@tone901 😂😂😂 Mobb Deep Infamous sold 7,100 copies first week. Tupac went platinum while he was in jail and already had movies and gold records. Tupac got big from his first album with Brenda's Got A Baby. You people must be kids or just haters.
@El_terrible1985 typing this I feel old. You had to he there brother. Before pac got shot. We loved the movies. And his singles like keep your head up and a few more. Pac was never in no hip hop debates atleast not in nyc.
How did pac need mobb deep when he had the #1 album in the country and to he honest i only heard pac diss them in the makaveli album not all eye's on me he was already dead when makaveli dropped so how did he need them this dude is full of crap
New York when it comes to Hip Hop seems to have always been in a bubble. Thinking everything big there is big everywhere else. No wonder New York Hip Hop fell off.
If Jimmy Iovine wanted too... He could go buy himself a pair of G-Nikes and a Gold chain a Blue flannel and tell stories of him and Dr Dre riding down on MTV execs. If he wanted too he could tell this kinda story. " Tupac was my roommate" then every so called brotha on the show acts in complete shock!!! GTFOH this what the culture has become ? At this time it was Tupac and Dave Hollister those brothers was roommates this savage just ran the record company. Yooooo!!!! rewriting history
This story is a lie 😒. Why would 2pac diss mobb deep to stay relevant when 2pac,nas,Busta Rhymes, and the fugee's were the biggest star's of 1996 in hip-hop. That shit doesn't make no sense 😮. 2PAC already had the number 1 album in 1995 from jail!
He been on so many interviews talking about pac slap him on his head and never mentioned pac saying abt staying relevant... Lies lies lies again... U trying to be relevant Rifkind
lol at a multiplatinum artist needing to diss a group who only went gold to remain relevant. Revisionist history at its finest. Mobb was never more poppin than Pac. RIP Pac and Prodigy 🙏🏾🕊️
Fam!!!💥🔥💥🔥💥🔥💥..first of all happy new year to anyone reading this..the kid who rhyming here…I believe his name is Gat Murdah..if I’m wrong no disrespect..this dude is NICE! This my second time hearing him..first heard him on that “I’m So Special “ joint…and he shined..”can’t DFG get money no more “💰💰💰…now this…I’m definitely checking for sun..Big Reg from Gates Ave …BK all day!
Pac was the biggest thing smoking in 1995. Why would he need mobb deep. Man Foh with this cap. He was already a movie star and had the number 1 album in the country. Beat out the Beatles. But he needed mobb deep. 😂😂😂yeah okay
@tone901 901 I lpvebhom like a brother . Am a type that understand the reason people act the way they do. The first thing is to know if he has empathy , he has more than that.
Notice how Westcoast media or artists never bring up biggie. It would be nice if Eastcoast would do the same . Unless we can have a decent balanced conversation.
This Tupac infatuation is hilarious to me... He said it though " even when I die my soul will ride forever" These new yt people need to be stopped... Steve has never presented himself like this prior to podcast. He's no different that Jimmy Iovine , Tommy Matola etc another white dude with money. Only difference is Steve been fronting like he was outside vs just being a record exec. You lived off you daddy's money and was put in position due to who your father was. Next he gonna be on his Fat Joe SHIT!!
Pac was not better tham Mobb Deep. Idc what was going on with him. He was still trying to figure out who he wanted to be. He was spinning on his back with digital underground and was mad he wasn't getting no love. Thats why he ran to the west.
This krazy to call Tupac irrelevant or old news during his career once strictly for my niggaz came out everyone knew who pac was juice poetic justice above the rim made him a household name
Pac literally had the number one record in the world when he was in prison he could have came out and signed with anybody and still been super relevant.
Not really its not that simple…..Pac was old news in 96! Rap had shifted to a new era. A new sound…Pac was still sounding like 1991-92. Death Row/Drama/East vs West really brought his career interest and momentum! Nobody was really thinking about Pac. It was wayyyyyyyyyyy too many classic albums dropping in 95/96 ….u had to be there! Its a lot of exaggeration about Pac’s importance he was really just another rapper amongst thousands
@@bigj0000 thats what i am thinking how come pac was jot getting a lot of label attention before and after he went to jail
That shit is cap lmao, pac did not need mobb depp to stay relevent, pac was way bigger than mobb depp. mobb deep needed to diss pac to stay relevent lmao, other way around
@@TheSupremeDunk95 he dropped a number one album… say what again? Were you even alive? In the black community he was on FIRE in 95/96 😂 the hottest he’d EVER been… cut it out
@@Tomfrom_woodsbefore because he was always in trouble and you add the governmental pressure being put on labels at the time like time warner and you’ll see why a controversial act like pac might make labels pause… But, all that said he was a multi platinum artist by 93
Pac was more famous than Mobb Deep but he had to diss them to stay relevant? Bullsh*t this show can be very east coast bias.
Facts
Niggaz be saying anything nowadays, pac not even here to defend himself anymore so niggas can just say anything because no one can check them. like that BS michael jackson story lmao.
There’s context…Pac was old news at that point….his era was 1990-1994 he was apart of the west coast/G Funk era….Mobb Deep was the NEXT ERA the new wave 1995-99! The era of Biggie, Wu, Nas, etc. They were the next wave that was taking over! I knew about Pac in 8th-9th-10th grade….When Mobb Deep came out with “Infamous” I was a senior in highschool/freshman in college! Tupac was played out by that time….only the cornballs and squares listened to Pac at that point. The cutting edge older crowd 18-26 in college and in the streets we were NOT listening to no Tupac in 95-99…..we were deep into Big, Wu Tang, Mobb Deep, Lox, The Roots, CNN, Ras Kass, etc….Tupac was old news. We listened to Pac, Snoop, etc back in highschool and junior high 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@TheSupremeDunk lol dog whatever it is ur smoking u should probably sell it. u new yorkers are seriously delusional
@@TheSupremeDunk Was it really like that (genuine question) ? Based on numbers, Tupac went back to his NY roots with Me Against the World, and that album went platinum + outsold even Bruce Springsteen while he was in prison. When he got out and released All Eyes on Me, the shit went 5x platinum in 3 months, before he released any form of a diss track against Biggie or any NY rapper. How was he old news?
Prodigy spoke on this when he was in his car talking about pac he said him and pac would have been rocking in present time he wasnt ready for what pac was trying to do at the time. Majesty stretch brother gave him a book that pac used to right his ideas in and he said he had similar ideas but 2pacs iseas was more advanced and organized.
I remember that story!💯
Facts
Calling cap. Pac had his son place already by the time his first album dropped. By the time Pac was beefing with Mobb, he was way more known and sucessful than them. The Infamous is a hip hop classic but it didn’t initially move units like that
Big facts... we gotta stop letting these Aliens tell our story. Pac was already a Elvis of sorts Movies and Music a full fledge stud.
Pac understood hip hop its obvious u dont...move on
@@jamalevans1574 smart man. This guy is a clown 🤡
@@castolano your story, huh ?? Lmao. - its his story- he lived it- he lived with PAC. Ya too fake woke, lol.
YOU DIDN'T KNOW THE MAN! You Pac fans are so delusional
Rifkind tells a story of how they actually loved each other and mecca redirects to the verse dissing Pac then sends out an rip to prodigy but none for Pac. Nasty work.
NY niggas🤣
New York hate pac to this day lmao, shit is funny as hell
@@illmatic9096west coast has nothing on new york. Those west coast beats are the worst sounding trash ever, sounds like electronic garbage.
@@Vub. I love both coast bro, it all about preference tho. New York is more winter vibes and LA has a more summer vibe, its both cool tho
@@Vub. Every region has producer's that provided great beats. Get out your bubble play boi
Some of these NY dudes be hating on Pac heavy. He's not here to defend himself and Suge is incarcerated. All of sudden everyone has something to say. Where were y'all at in 96? Silent
Pac is NY too , and the the thoro NYC cats didnt stay quiet , Mobb Deep, CNN , etc didnt stay quiet.
@awyzeguy Nore stay sneak dissin Pac he's a hater. Most NY dudes don't look at Pac as a New Yorker. Mobb wasn't silent but they weren't on Pac level.
Stop the Stan bs. Nobody is afraid of Suge, Pac or anybody if they were alive or not incarcerated. Isn't Pac originally from the East coast.
😂 Where were they in 96? Teenagers & children
Well in 96 the real newyork gangsters already violated him and I like 2pac music but let's be real
I'm glad the comments called out the bs. Yall talk about Pac more than Biggie because he's the goat and forever relevant.
I'm calling 🧢, Pac thought mobb deep dissed him on survival of the fittest, that why he dissed them. He was the biggest rapper in 96 so didn't need attention. GTFOH
For real Mobb Deep Infamous sold 7,100 albums first week 😂
2005: "There was no East Coast-West Coast beef...."
2025: "So, during the East Coast-West Coast beef...."
PICK ONE!!
Rip 2pac the 🐐🐐
Pac had no beef with the “east coast”. Stop it! He was doing an album with Buckshot, Tek and Steele during the so called beef. Y’all get on my nerves with the bullshit!
Exactly people forget the outlaws are all from the East coast
Thank the media for that…
That story sounds suspect as hell. Tupac was coming off multiple multi-platinum albums, 3 movies and a bunch of other shit and he needed mobb deep who had one album that barely went gold to be relevant?
Dudes just say what they want about ‘pac now that he’s dead.
And then homie reciting the Tupac diss. Smh.
Rest in Peace to the great Tupac Amaru Sakur
It’s the 90’s. Every celebrity that wasn’t named Michael Jackson / prince / Whitney Houston / were not as big as we think they were. Today’s relevant isn’t the same as 90’s relevant. It makes perfect sense. No social media/ no high speed internet/ and rap was not as international as it is now…
You dudes are Pac barbs
@@tone901 No matter how you poo poo heads spin it, the shit still doesn't make sense. Mobb Deep was never bigger or more relevant than Tupac lol.
Yes, beautiful as you eloquently stated they were basically gloating about the diss, when this came out, I remember listening to both 2Pac and Mobb Deep and yes, the song was hard by MD but like you said to 30 years later, be gloating off of the lyrics and then not only on this episode, but many episodes them directly saying that 2Pac did not have lyrics and even when they had people from New York up there saying 2Pac was known all around the world he was held in the same regards as a Bob Marley They just look like they seen a ghost and of course they had no supporting dialogue and just would move onto the next subject.! When I’m watching the news I listen very careful when I’m watching these podcast. I see the body language. I listen to some of the terminology that’s being pushed and even if people From New York is reading these comments I think they should be fair and do the same. The bias is unreal.! we all like who we like, and in our culture, we don’t have to always tear down one artist to big up the other one !
2 intros is wild gang
Starts at 1:36
I literally just commented about that shyt!! Math thinks we wanna see his outfits and shoes and shyt to hear the content of the titles he uploads 🤦♂️
🙏🏽
Fast forward past that trash 😂
Zip right pass that bullshit 😂😂😂😂
Notice Mecca asked why nobody didn’t come to Steve’s office. Mecca knows Steve’s family is “connected” but he still asked that question. But Mecca talks about Vlad asking those kinds of questions.
Exactly
To be fair the way he asked it seemed pretty obviously sarcastic lol 3:20 I don’t think he was actually expecting a straight response to that
@@joojoobaw Did you miss when he said “His grandfather wasn’t there, why didn’t they come to HIS (meaning Steve’s) office”
@@culcre apparently yes I did 😂
I love how quiet the shop is when the convo isn’t opinion based. Tryna catch every single gem dropped. This dudes dad signed James Brown and the first rap band. Was literally born to dominate the music industry. Never had to worry about money a day in his life. Good for him.
🎯🎯🎯
All Bias aside let’s look at the numbers at that time & era .
Tupac
- Strictly 4 My Niggas ( Release Feb 93 )
Certified Gold in Sept 93
Certified Platinum in April 95
- Me Against The World ( Released Mar 95)
• Certified Platinum in July of 95
- All Eyes On Me (Released Feb 96 )
• Certified 5 X Platinum in April 96.
- Makaveli / Killumanti 7 Day Theory
(Released Nov 23rd 96)
• 2X Platinum Jan 97
• 3X Platinum April 97
- Mobb Deep
The Infamous (Released April 95)
Certified Gold June 95
Certified Platinum Feb 2020
Hell on Earth (Released Nov 96 )
Certified Gold April 97 .
And this isn’t to slander or shade, this are the numbers and straight facts. How did Tupac need to Diss Mobb Deep to be relevant.
Pac was on the Biggest Hip Hop label in the industry at the time ( Death Row) & even before that, he was already a Platinum selling artist.
Now I can understand if Pac wasn’t as big in New York, cause like I said before New York was focused on New York artist & always had that bias.
But the numbers do not Lie. At the time Pac was out selling Nas, Mobb Deep, Big & almost every other rapper on the east coast at the time. It’s 2025, the false narratives gotta stop, same with the coastal bias nonsense, especially if the numbers & facts are available for everyone to see.
Mobb Deep Infamous only sold 7,100 albums first week. Tupac definitely didn't need to diss them to stay relevant. He made them bigger because I'd never heard of them until he dissed them.
@micahwest2793 Exactly, facts, he didn’t need to diss them to stay relevant at all.
& In Havoc own words from a interview he did
“The nigga was saying our names. I didn’t know what the fuck the beef was about. I didn’t even care. I was like damn, did you hear that? 2Pac dissing us. We about to sell some records.”
This dude named his album pac juice but still allow ppl to lie on pac on his show lol damn.
I remember that album. He was still battle rapping and had the shirts to go wit it. Still one of the funniest album titles. 😂
Dead Prez was just mentioned at the end. Please continue on that note. These Hip-Hop stories don't end, especially when it comes to 2pac. It always sounds like he's lived multiple lives, Buddhist-like.
“Im doing it to stay relevant “??? 🧢 Who was more relevant than Pac at that? Definitely not Mobb Deep
Pac was not relavant as people think in 1995….Hiphop is about whats NEW whats fresh! In 95 Pac was outdated. Pac had been out since 1990 i was in 8th grade! In 95 I was a FRESHMAN IN COLLEGE!! Think about that! Mobb Deep was that NEXT shit….thats all we was playing was Mobb Deep, Wu, Big, AZ, etc…..nobody wanted to hear no fuckin Tupac. Except old heads and females. My stepdad was listening to Tupac gtfoh hahaga
@@TheSupremeDunkman, stop lying. Pac was the biggest name in rap....lol
@@TheSupremeDunk mobb deep were making noise in hip hop, still far from mainstream. Pac was everywhere, MTV news was reporting about his every move. Stop lying to people
Mobb was the biggest group at that time.obvious u wasnt around
@@TheSupremeDunk Pac was the biggest thing smoking in 1995. Why would he need mobb deep. Man Foh with this cap. He was already a movie star and had the number 1 album in the country. Beat out the Beatles. But he needed mobb deep. 😂😂😂yeah okay
1:54 start of the video!! Jesus Christ it be torture watching 2-3 minute long intros!! Especially of a Another man trying to show his outfits off and shyt 🤦♂️
They gotta make 💵💵💵💵. Are you not from New York, it's a throwback to when we used to shop for leathers and furs on Delancey Street.
@@videobrownsvillestop it... You was at Ross and TJ max and canal Street
@@videobrownsville Thank you. They only understand when they get the bread, bag and butter.
@@allgasnobrakes919 bruh, why so hostile? Just sharin some NY History. Anyway back in the days , late 80s when Delancey Street was at its peak, we Ain't have no respect for the south we perceived y'all as corny. No offense, just a little history. 😊
@@videobrownsville Yep and we always and STILL view y’all as Fast talking Lying Sneaky Backstabbing mfkrs…Your Point 🤷♂️
NY bias, they still mad at the 🐐 😂😂
I don't blame them
@@tone901They should blame Diddy because he started it
What goat?
Mobb deep ain’t never been big enough outside of ny to keep anyone relevant
Huh?
@ what
@@ronalddesjardins3547 Mobb first 2 albums barely sold 200k first week together. Pac all eyes on me sold over 600k first week and 5 million in 3 months. y'all gotta stop putting pac against these rappers
I agree with that wasn’t nobody listening to mobb deep in the Midwest for sho…shit still don’t lol
I’m from the East Coast! Is narcissism and biased automatically built in the DNA of someone from New York and I’m not saying because there’s people who know hip-hop don’t actually have this type of bias! But people saying and naming the artist or groups that were bigger than Tupac are ridiculous ! Even if the record sales would’ve been equal, which, of course it was not out of all of them combined but his music was more diverse, and he talked about issues and he tried to uplift people a lot his music! It appears in many cases, the circumference of the five burrows limit of is the intelligence!!!
Well said... That's the problem that been happening for years... They constantly undermining pac every chance they get
Tupac me against the world was number 1 when he was in prison before he ever layed a diss record these New York dudes be delusional
Did it to be relevant??!! Gtfoh smh... pac was the biggest rap artist in 94- til now
That’s what i am saying pac did not need that he was too talented
I hear you and I agree about PAC but it makes sense it’s always a business and PAC was smart about it he even said his advice to rappers was “rap for the b!tches bc niggas don’t buy albums b!tches do” so I believe him when he said for PAC it was just as much as a business decision as it was genuine beef. I’m not saying PAC didn’t have issues with them other ninjas I’m just saying he definitely saw the business implications it could have. RIP 2Pac the GOAT
PAC was not even goin gold in 94
@ stop he went platinum
eebpinkett6450 mobb sleep wasn't that big at the time. Pac helped them by saying their names
Steve a cool dude I respect him a lot pac mobb deep and nas ghostface Raekwon collaboration in 96 would’ve been dope damn shame we didn’t get that
Rifkind has this way of telling these stories where his expression always look like he’s impressed with himself, but also surprised like he can’t believe it happened lol
I DONT WANNA SEE GAT RAPPING AT ALL
His bars are better than Math's
@@unclemurdablackandyellow5481 I got bars,let me rap!!!
You see how they put Young Chris at the end of the videos now 😂😂😂
That's cuz you a big time hater..as if YOU do anything that anybody want to see or hear🤦🏾♂️
Bruhhhhhhhhh he nice wtf are you talking about he nicer than math hoffa you smoking crack with your frosted flakes
lol Pac was in the news every 6 months he was more relevant in the 90’s than John Gotti
cap
@@tone901 nothing but facts there’s no way to even argue it
I see why pac went to LA New York still hate the man
Math Hoffa it is evident that your platform is so pro NY, like 2Pac couldn’t have taken out mob easily on a track ! You guys are repeating the lyrics with so much joy like it’s some type of badge of honor! This is the attitude that really created the East Coast West Coast beef. It wasn’t the problems that bad boy and death row it was the superiority complex of certain people out of NY! I’m from your side. I seen it in real time, I’ve been around the same people.!! The only problem I have is if you really don’t like Tupac & the West Coast like Kendrick come out and just say it !! close to 30 years later with all the super analysis, the critique of his lyrics by saying he’s not lyrical. You would’ve think by now that you guys would’ve came up with a blueprint to show that you could do it better, haven’t seen it. !!
Foh pac ain’t say that lmao
Right, I know pac looking down like what the hell is this fool talkin about 😂
Yeah I definitely don't think Tupac said that either
Yeah he did. Remember they said BIG basically asked him what you doing at one of the shows and Pac said trying to sell records. I don't think he was just on some pure clout chase shit but a lot of it was him checking the slick talk disrespect that no one mentions anymore that went on when he was locked up.
@@dawb86Reggie Wright was there and said he never said that. These ppl love to lie.Pac and Biggie didn't even get close.
@ Steve is just repeating what big said and others said. As many people do in everyday life. That’s how stories always go. If pac said this IF (because big never said this when Pac was alive). He definitely didn’t go around saying it to everybody
Steve talking tough but forgetting when suge and them smacked his daddy up and Steve had to pay for extra extra security
Cap
PAC was east coast, dam just watch above the rim pac was smart to go were he was celebrated,PAC had the best girls,music,and style
Pac had a mobb deep diss song called "If they love their kids og" yall should check it out
The real beneficiaries of goofy rap beefs are the executives. We lose generational artists and they move on to the next group of fools
Smfh the pac slander has to stop are you kidding me Pac only diss mobb to stay relevant. 🤦🏾♂️
Rip prodigy
That's a whole fact
Everyone was intimidated by pac he was on a different level to his whole competition let’s keep it real, I’m a New York baby and I have to keep it real pac nas mobb deep jayz biggie was not on pacs level at that in the 90s pac ticked allllllllll boxes
Wish there was more video footage of a lot of 90s recording sessions. Back when artist worked in the studio together
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 pac dissed mobb deep when he came home why did pac have to dis them to remain relevant he was literally the biggest rapper in the world 😂😂😂😂😂😂. Nikkas talk alot of shit but after im gone because the fear me in the physical form.
You have to understand these New Yorkers are speaking from there perspective that’s all they know. Outside of New York Pac was that guy period😂
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Watching this always makes me happy.
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Pac was famous in 94 but for the hip hop scene in nyc pac wasnt no factor. Mobbdeep was big back then. Pac dissed all the bigdogs from nyc fuggees big nas mobbeep. Before he went to jail pac wasnt part of hip hop royalty conversations. They all was
These Pac fanboys don't want to hear that 😅
@@tone901 😂😂😂 Mobb Deep Infamous sold 7,100 copies first week. Tupac went platinum while he was in jail and already had movies and gold records. Tupac got big from his first album with Brenda's Got A Baby. You people must be kids or just haters.
Mobb deep was never bigger than 2pac in any state or country in the world. Stop lying to yourself
@@tone901 😂
@El_terrible1985 typing this I feel old. You had to he there brother. Before pac got shot. We loved the movies. And his singles like keep your head up and a few more. Pac was never in no hip hop debates atleast not in nyc.
Steve will go down in history as one of the greatest record executives ever. Dude is a paragon of how to do it.
The Best in history Mr Tupac Shakur
2160p is the truth! 📺
How did pac need mobb deep when he had the #1 album in the country and to he honest i only heard pac diss them in the makaveli album not all eye's on me he was already dead when makaveli dropped so how did he need them this dude is full of crap
Religiously Dope‼️ W
Steve is nobody to celebrate. He gave 1 of my clients who sold millions of records a 4 point contract... Why is he celebrated? 👎🏾
And your idiot friend singed the contract ?? Good for him 😆👍🏻
Find me an exec that hasn't done that? Most people don't need to be celebrated if we put them under a microscope
Because he was responsible for getting classic albums to the masses. You get what you negotiate. 🤷
@soulcrushaolskool6866 Facts, still it doesn't make it right. And it's about 3x fewer points than my average client.
@@tecumseh821 Most execs will screw you over, but not this bad.
That track is a straight banger some real hip hop
Homie look like triple h on the thumbnail🤣🤣
New York when it comes to Hip Hop seems to have always been in a bubble. Thinking everything big there is big everywhere else. No wonder New York Hip Hop fell off.
If Jimmy Iovine wanted too... He could go buy himself a pair of G-Nikes and a Gold chain a Blue flannel and tell stories of him and Dr Dre riding down on MTV execs. If he wanted too he could tell this kinda story. " Tupac was my roommate" then every so called brotha on the show acts in complete shock!!! GTFOH this what the culture has become ? At this time it was Tupac and Dave Hollister those brothers was roommates this savage just ran the record company. Yooooo!!!! rewriting history
The fact that I pause the vid a fast forward 2 minutes every video is so diabolical but like I said before I get it but damn😂
He dissed mob deep, because they dissed him first .
This story is a lie 😒. Why would 2pac diss mobb deep to stay relevant when 2pac,nas,Busta Rhymes, and the fugee's were the biggest star's of 1996 in hip-hop. That shit doesn't make no sense 😮. 2PAC already had the number 1 album in 1995 from jail!
He been on so many interviews talking about pac slap him on his head and never mentioned pac saying abt staying relevant... Lies lies lies again... U trying to be relevant Rifkind
does Math have the best internal clock ever or something? One second after he calls for a 5 minute break somebody’s car alarm goes off 😂
lol at a multiplatinum artist needing to diss a group who only went gold to remain relevant. Revisionist history at its finest. Mobb was never more poppin than Pac. RIP Pac and Prodigy 🙏🏾🕊️
And that crap still wasn’t harder than Hit em Up
Hitemup is so trash, honestly.
Fam!!!💥🔥💥🔥💥🔥💥..first of all happy new year to anyone reading this..the kid who rhyming here…I believe his name is Gat Murdah..if I’m wrong no disrespect..this dude is NICE! This my second time hearing him..first heard him on that “I’m So Special “ joint…and he shined..”can’t DFG get money no more “💰💰💰…now this…I’m definitely checking for sun..Big Reg from Gates Ave …BK all day!
What max b song is that during the darucci commercial
Pac was the biggest thing smoking in 1995. Why would he need mobb deep. Man Foh with this cap. He was already a movie star and had the number 1 album in the country. Beat out the Beatles. But he needed mobb deep. 😂😂😂yeah okay
Facts!! Fake azz NY bias. Gtfoh w BS
Dudes under 50 act like Tupac was always at the level he was on..when he passed. I’ve seen him at clubs in l.a. solo before he got to Death Row
Gat stuck with sideways hat look. Once you hit 40 you gon look madd goofy my 🥷
The Tupac barbs are watching like 😡
Pac literally was what 50 cent is back in the day he planned this whole beef he was very smart
Bunch of nobodies yapping. Makaveli de don lives on.
You probably wouldn't even like Pac if you met him, wasn't the coolest guy to be around apparently
@tone901 901 I lpvebhom like a brother . Am a type that understand the reason people act the way they do. The first thing is to know if he has empathy , he has more than that.
I don't believe Steve.
Nah you don't want to believe him.
@ Wrong. If anyone is phony they are phony.
Notice how Westcoast media or artists never bring up biggie. It would be nice if Eastcoast would do the same . Unless we can have a decent balanced conversation.
Great song comes on at :56 seconds
I didn’t know gat rap yo 🔥🔥
Who there interviewing next Tupac’s neighbours?
After that Fat Joe interview. This channel needs to be cancelled!!!!!
I pray math saves somebody studio time and leaves his pad and pen in 2024! BLESSINGS!!!
whats the song called at the end
Another Classic math
MAX B's influence is all over this intro
This Tupac infatuation is hilarious to me... He said it though " even when I die my soul will ride forever" These new yt people need to be stopped... Steve has never presented himself like this prior to podcast. He's no different that Jimmy Iovine , Tommy Matola etc another white dude with money. Only difference is Steve been fronting like he was outside vs just being a record exec. You lived off you daddy's money and was put in position due to who your father was. Next he gonna be on his Fat Joe SHIT!!
Aye that host was rappin his ass off in the beginning sheesh
I am at the point where I just listen to the intro
how did they pull Drop A Gem On Em if it's on the album? Smh
From radio
They gotta let Kim Talk it gets too quiet they dont know what to ask next
Damn they doing the intro and outros now holy fuck sakes lmao
New York is TETHERVILLE!!!! 🤣
GAT AND MATH ARE BOTH FIRE RAPPERS.
FUCK THE HATERS AND KEEP GOING FELLAS💪🏾
Bra stop lying. Lmaoo
Pac was not better tham Mobb Deep. Idc what was going on with him. He was still trying to figure out who he wanted to be. He was spinning on his back with digital underground and was mad he wasn't getting no love. Thats why he ran to the west.
This krazy to call Tupac irrelevant or old news during his career once strictly for my niggaz came out everyone knew who pac was juice poetic justice above the rim made him a household name
Then with dear mamma and all the legal issues he was solidified
Lies
The glazing is real on the East Coast
Don't be mad cause your region Don't count and NEVER will
@ don’t get mad cause your region fumbled the ball 🏈 and never got it back!! “ niggas rapping the 70’s still never went Gold”
Over a minute in and still an intro. Shits exhausting.
You do know you can skip it right?🤨
This sounds crazy!!! Mobb Deep was never bigger then 2pac😂😂😂😂 Maybe on the east coast but not worldwide 😂😂😂
New york dudes are too bias 🤷🏾♂️
I knew he would say OB4CL first‼️💯
Ny dudes hate on PAC til this day
Steve is apart of Gangland since birth.
It was hip hop and the media turned it into a coastal war