Small not zzunami proof , alsoake with composite material or Roman self healing cement or weightless cement float with plastic to reduce weight, not metal which can go inside reinforcement, ROMAN CEMENT IS SEA WATER AND CAO, SO SIMPLE, SO WEIGHT MUST BE LESS, ADD IN CABON FIBRE INTO CEMENT AND CHECK WEIHHT AND STRENGTH , SOMEHOW METAL FLOAT EXPOSED CANNOT BE CALLED LATEST, EVEN CARS ARE COMPOSITE FIBERS😅😂
Ou don't need a degree in anything to see why it doesn't work.... They could use that water movement to generate electricity and also use suction pipes for desalination plants helping the tide to remain reduced...... Oh what about using the seawater to make electricity..... Now they'd have multiple benefits from the seawater all whist keeping the tide low...
I didn't need to watch your full video to see that it was going to be a failure. Just watching the short was enough to understand that water was still going to penetrate the lagoons from around and under the caissons.
So when I was a kid an aunt of mine went to Venice and I did some research about Venice and well what I found was insane. Lets stop the bullshit and actually do something that should have been done 140 years ago and evacuated the entire city of Venice. So really really stupid reality is Venice has been sinking and the sinking can not stop because stupidly the entire city is on a slap that has been crumbling and about 140 years ago people claim it was put on stilts but what in reality was done was pilers were placed diagonally into the base to slow its collapse because turns out over 200 years ago is when it was first found out that Venice is over a giant sink hole that there is a void under the city that the entire city will eventually fall into and every thing that is being done is not changing the fact that the city will fall into that void and in fact this new flood defense is not going to change the reality that that city is falling apart. In reality every single person still living in Venice is a moron. Reality is over 90% of that city is under water and unlivable. Hell around 80 years ago buildings were built on top of the old city that already fell into the void the city is constantly falling in and new buildings built on top of the old ones. The foundation that these buildings are on is quick sand and every existing building has unrepairable structural damage that is failing faster and faster. The reality is that entire city is only barely not dead and in reality scientists are horrified at the insanity that morons refuse to leave a place that actually should have fully collapsed almost 50 years ago and the fact its not fully fallen in is by random bullshit chance. This 7 billion dollar structure changes nothing about the reality that that city is a zombie city because its a corpse that should already be dead but is barely alive. These morons keep spending billions up on billions to trillions every single year to keep that city from fully collapsing. People call people morons when they refuse to move away from an area that has tornados that rip apart their houses every year but Venice is even stupider to live in because Venice should not exist because Venice is worse because it should have already fully collapsed but 1 of those ancient nearly 140 year old posts that was placed into the city is holding the entire city up and its breaking and when that single pole fully breaks or breaks enough which should have happened over 40 years ago but when it does break every single moron living in Venice will die. Venice is living on borrowed bullshit time and reality check should have been abandoned over a century ago because its a dead city.
Oof... and well, the ships’ flood-prevention gates allegedly did not work which lead to the 20th century disaster. The 21st century submersible imploded. Either way, it seems as though you’re correct... is this shit gonna happen again in a century...? Future generations, do not make it a trilogy...
Except the Titanic did everything it was supposed to do. the ship wasnt designed to withstand the massive amount of damage the iceberg caused, so it actually did a really good job at slowing down the flooding.
There was nothing wrong with the titanics engineering or build quality they just werent planning on some dumbass captain ramming full speed into an iceberg
When I was in elementary school in Venice, a survey was given to our class with 3 choices of resolving the high tide in Venice, out of the choices I remember picking Moses, fast forward to 20 years later. I had moved to the USA and went to Italy for a year with my husband and his job during that year (2018) was to work on the Moses project. Funny how life works sometimes
In our town they put some barriers into the city river. It worked great in no longer flooding the homes… problem is that the flooding ended up in another part of town where the flooding was much worse ….
Yeh it sounds like a bad idea for a river where the water has to end up somewhere, just becomes a dam. This one in particular is just the ocean though, where it doesnt need to divert anywhere.
Most the surrounding areas are beaches, and there is flooding protection in those areas already. Though it might make the flooding start "swallowing" beaches, but I am not sure... but it will likely mean more of the beaches get flooded instead.
Build homes in natural floodplain. Homes flood. **surprised Pikachu face** Divert river so that the floodplain doesn't flood anymore. Floods just go somewhere else along the river. **surprised Pikachu face again**
@@Felamine Amazing how accurate this is. I’ve lived in a flood plain my whole life, and yet people keep being surprised when they build houses by the river and they flood. Like, the town becomes an island twice a year and those fields become lakes, what did you think was going to happen? You’d think the problems with building at the very bottom of a river valley would be self evident, and yet
@@enricomontanari1390 few years is definitely not enough time to engineer and construct a better solution. A problem of that magnitude will cost hundreds of millions, if not billions and take years to design and then even longer to actually build.
Damn. Could they not attach some type of mesh netting (something without holes amor parts that would trao wildlife) that could lift and fall with the steel parts to block debris from getting in? Or is that unfeasible? Does anyone here know?
Hundreds of years ago, it was really strategically placed. Venice was a huge trading hub, and it gave easy access to the many ships that would come through.
@@masterofthecontinuum that’s true yes but possibilities for the future are normally a big defining factor in many economic investments and putting a heavy city in marshland that close to the ocean has major red flags. But that also could be the bias of what is know today vs then talking.
What do you mean? It does work. The completion of the project was delayed by many years and it ended costing much more than it was initially expected. But after completion it works perfectly.
@@eduardobone8857 Not my comment, credit goes to @patricksanders858: As soon as they were lifted, sand and rocks began to fill in behind it and they couldn't be lowered all the way down. Smart.
@@neutronalchemist3241Deltawerken in the Netherlands would have cost €6.35 billion euros converted from the Guilders. The deltawerken is bigger and more sophisticated than MOSE.
@@neutronalchemist3241 please do your homework if you make such a false statement. The Deltawerken have multiple levee's in multiple different places to strengthen and shorten the coastline and an inflatable rubber tube that holds back water. Besides that, in the years we built the Oosterschelde deltawerken, they maintained the nature preserve, where they are currently modifying and improving the Afsluitdijk to restore the old habitats.
@@jgowner6076 Yeah, and leeves are earth dams. So you just stated that the Deltawerken is a series of dams. Please, switch on your brain before typing. Had you had at least a minimal knowledge of what you are talking about, you should have known that Venice's lagoon ALREADY has embankments protecting it (murazzi). They had been built in 18th century. It's not that they had to wait for the Dutch to teach them how to pile up dirt. What has to be regulated now, due to the mutated conditions of the lagoon and of the city in the past two and half centuries, is the passage of water in the OPENINGS between the embankments (bocche di porto) WITHOUT ALTERING THEM. They didn't want to build other embankments and didn't want to build evident structures like the Maeslantkering. Do you really think someone needs aid to build a flood gate?
Lagon would become stinky mess if deprived of its dynamic relation with the sea. It's an environment with a very complex equilbrium both at a sediment level and at a wildlife level. The solution had to be one capable of retaining this equilibrium and as such first of all not something permanent and naturally with the option of fast reverting back to a normale state.
For everyone saying it doesn't work it works. It isn't always actuated as it obviously blocks maritime traffic so they decided to use this device only if the tide exceeds a certain level.
Thames barrier method would gave been better. With this you are hoping the hinges dont cease up or get clogged with sand or silt. Thames uses a rotation system.
I looked it up on several news sites and most agree that it has been working fine since 2021, though it wasn't fully complete until 2023, but with the rising tide and sea level from climate change it will likely work for far less time than expected, about 30 years. Though it was always thought to be a temporary solution they expected 100 or so years. And there are concerns about ecological and environmental consequences. But it does currently work.
Jakarta is a totally different case. And just so you know both in Jakarta and in venice the issue is not something like "the ocean advancing". In Jakarta the city is sinking and in Venice the tides are a seasonal issue.
If youve seen the movie LIFT: kevin hart uses it to escape when he kidnapped a guy, that guy is Ned a.k.a. Jacob😂 the guy from tom hollands movie spiderman
@@areyousur3 if you think it’s about the classical type of farms, then the the animal food lobby got to you too. It’s not about farms, it’s about meat factories that house 2000+ cows, or more than 5000 pigs or hundreds of thousands of chickens. That results in 100,000,000 chickens, 12,000,000 pigs and 4,000,000 cows in a country the size of New York with 18,000,000 citizens. So it’s not about the farmer with dozens of cows, it’s about the factories that produce so much damage to the environment
@@Danferplus by the way: We’ve been fighting water here since 600 BC, started building terpen around 500 BC and started regaining land in the form of polders in 1852.
it depends on the restaurants you go to. ive been to venice last year, and the more "hidden" restaurants have both better prices and much better service
Yeah, this is a pretty standard flood defense system. Usually deployed in rivers, not lagoons, but the concept is the same, and its only real failure mode (one of the flaps not rising, either due to the water not getting pumped out properly or the hinges failing) will most likely only happen to one or two of the flaps at a time, so even if part of it fails, the rest will still minimize the damage
Yes, it's a bad thing because it shows a political bias. Ask Venice people who has suffered from high water level for decades and now they don't. It works.
@@ario203ita5he said that because shortly after its installation, sand and other debris got sucked into the space underneath and stopped them from lowering
At first i was wondering how they would lift those things up because the water is gonna be so heavy to move but its so smart the solution they came with
I've seen the tumbnail and all has been made clear. Venice put ramps in the water, so the main character can do some sick trickson their jet-ski or boat or whatever and earn more exp so they can porgress the main quest faster and stop the flood.
While i was in Venice, i asked why they didn't use Moses for each high tide. The answer: it costs $328,000 each time it's raised. And that cost is paid through Venetian taxes.
Compressed air wouldn't cost 300 thousand dollars Granted power is necessary to pump the air and there is some cost but you would think they would have thought of a power supply that doesn't break the bank And the system is manned or supervised at all times so that should affect the cost Sounds like nonsense
And it's bullshit. Tides, even high tides, are required to keep the lagoon water clean. That's why the Moses is lifted only for tides over 90cm, that are the ones that put buildings in danger.
@@bered4894 The Dutch are the reason the Dutch don't have webbed feet. Most of their land is below sea level and they have learned a thing or two about keeping it dry.
@@PhilJonesIII looking at old maps they did more than that they drain entire areas that were never even land lol Still pretty cool but odd looking towards back then
I live above the site of a 1909 dam on the Ohio River that used a similar system called “Bear Trap” gates. Same idea as this, except the sections were manually raised and lowered. That was abandoned in 1921 to make way for fixed crest dams with locks (which I note the system in this video also needed for some reason). It is astonishing that over one HUNDRED years later, they’re still making the same mistakes. There must have been some special interest behind this design for SURE!
Excuse my manners but when you said "special interest" did you meant corruption? I just can't help myself and wonder how massive corruption is in one of the highest cost of living per capita places such as Venice compared to us here in the third world SEA
They are Not stupid a fixes Dam would Ruin Venice skyline 🤮🤮🤮 they have to make one that only goes up when there is Need and than hide again. Also if Ohio failed 90 years ago doesn’t mean we cannot try in 2023 what logic is that you Even Said it’s Not the same System that was Manual
I feel like the people behind this project were looking for a practical way to stop general flooding from high tide. I don't think this would protect them from the types of waves people in tje comment are thinking of. But I do think it will severely reduce the damage of most massive waves not related directly to high tide.
It does not need to stop water from entering the lagoon altogether, it just needs to decrease the flow rate. Water enters the lagoon due to tidal effects, and a tidal cycle lasts approx. 8 hours. In fact, over the several times it has been tested it worked, and not all the three barriers needed to be raised
"Here's how its supposed to work " is the correct way to explain it because even now,the MOSE project is not technically finished. It has been operating two years in experimental mode. Engineers say they are still completing the last backup systems. 26 November 2022.
I have read that corrosion interferes with its operation, and that maintaining it has proven to be very expensive. Apparently, this was not a good plan.
Yeah and the fact they have forgotten important geography notes regarding rivers and their maintenance issues; deposition. Rivers carry crap along with them and when they lose energy such as near the mouth where they meet the sea. When the ramps go up and stop the flow there’s only one place where the crap can go that was carried downstream. It’s a problem along the sea coast too requiring harbours especially to be dredged routinely because of all the sand, trash and mud that gets thrown at the bottom.
and too expensive to make it work, because it's not automated, so it's humans doing everything. And besides, it's not profitable for Venice to use it every time it should, because otherwise tourists can't come and go by boat, so they made a raised walkway system and watertight barriers in the city...
What you did read were forecasts "the corrosion WILL interfere, the maintenance WILL be expensive". The system worked pretty well for over two years by now.
This project is one of the biggest corruption scandal in Venice. The mayor and 34 politicians and businessmen been arrested some years ago in link with this affair. Venise will always be Venice 😅
Funny thing is, there's only a problem because of the "preserve it" mentality. Venice has always been sinking, always will. People used to have the good sense to keep building upward. They stopped building.
@@thisguy4505Exactly. This is truly the problem. They need to start building back as well as up and move inland. There’s no need to preserve this watery grave. Just build inland and if you want to build up, then demo the bottom and replace the old destroyed materials and rebuild the areas higher. Seems to me a simple solution. But when the people decide to stop making an effort, nature will eat you alive.
I promise you a private company could've completed this project for less than 1 billion. The amount of money laundered for the "public servants" is astonishing
They could've, and probably should've, built Levee's, leaving small gaps where these special Mose barriers are placed, so that vessels can still pass through when required.
If they named it MOSES instead of MOSÈ maybe it would have work and parted the sea. This just lifts the water, throws it on the other side while the incoming tidal waves begin to roll in and cascade over this mosè of art 🧀. Mosè: 😲🫴 LIFT Flood: *blinks twice* Moses: 😅⚠️ You should’ve asked for my staff, they would have helped! Moses AGAIN: *throws stick in water* Flood: 🌪️🌊 Mosè: 😑 😡🤬🧀 🗑️ Moses: *whistles* 🙄📜 Mosè: 😔
The lagoon is artificial actually. Had "Mother Nature got his way", it would have been completely filled by sediments in 16th century. Since Venetians wanted their city to still be built on water, they changed the course of a pair of rivers. The lagoon had been saved, and the sediments started to build the nowadays delta of the Po river.
The stupidity of this design is mind boggling. The platforms rise up and leave an empty space. Ofcourse there will be sedimentation so every time the platforms are up you will get dirt under them untill they won't properly close anymore. They will thus need to be regularly cleaned which is costly. Also, having all of the moving and important bits underwater will of course increase maintenance costs as you will need to work under water more and also have more work as the water will increase corrosion to those parts. I am Dutch and I agree with the other comments saying they should probably have consulted us...
You’re absolutely right. I am but a simple man but even I would have asked you guys for help concerning a problem with flooding. Pretty arrogant of them to not get advice from the country in the whole world that knows all there is to know in this matter. 👍🏻🇸🇪
@@adolphin9348 LOL, I am not that delusional. Currently writing my thesis on water infrastructure operation and maintenance as part of the study land and water management. The thing is that not every civil engineer has the right knowledge to work with watermanagement structures. There are special engineering firms for major water management projects and most of them are Dutch...
See I thought it was going to be some genius idea like making a counter wave to cancel out the incoming waves but just making a wall isn't going to do much depending on the height
@@nnlopossodire tbf, most of the flooding is due to the misshaped and warped ground, I think it puddles up then just spills over that’s how a lot of shops and places get flooded quite bad regularly. Surprised they don’t use sandbags as often
@@coreymckinney7423 why would they use sandbags if it doesn't reached their houses.. houses are on a higher level than the streets, that's why they don't care if there's water on them, just put some boots on and you're fine
@@nnlopossodire you are correct houses are built higher, but the shops and restaurants are not. It’s not necessarily for the people who want to walk around in the wet, it’s for protecting the inside and the items they hold inside these building that is important.
@@ryanbianchi6582 normally it should be used every day and yet they don't, why? too expensive to make it work, because it's not automated, so it's humans doing everything. And tourists would be stuck every day on one side or the other of the barrier, a barrier that is financed by the presence of tourists who come by boat... So they made a raised walkway system and watertight barriers in the city... Much cheaper, but still temporary.
We met an architect from Venice on our way back from Venice and learned about this from him. He said this was the most expensive and time consuming they ever did which does not even work. 😂
Only negative pressure can work. An opposing pressure of water being pumped continuously back at the natural surging pressure could reduce flooding significantly. Along with other barriers placed at increments further out . Breaking down the rage of natural water surge reduces damage, flooding,...
Find out why this $7BN flood defence system isn’t enough in our full video - ua-cam.com/video/4hKXOfQ6JmE/v-deo.html
Wow ! First you emphasize it then you criticise it
Small not zzunami proof , alsoake with composite material or Roman self healing cement or weightless cement float with plastic to reduce weight, not metal which can go inside reinforcement, ROMAN CEMENT IS SEA WATER AND CAO, SO SIMPLE, SO WEIGHT MUST BE LESS, ADD IN CABON FIBRE INTO CEMENT AND CHECK WEIHHT AND STRENGTH , SOMEHOW METAL FLOAT EXPOSED CANNOT BE CALLED LATEST, EVEN CARS ARE COMPOSITE FIBERS😅😂
Ou don't need a degree in anything to see why it doesn't work.... They could use that water movement to generate electricity and also use suction pipes for desalination plants helping the tide to remain reduced...... Oh what about using the seawater to make electricity..... Now they'd have multiple benefits from the seawater all whist keeping the tide low...
Because humans suck as spezies
I didn't need to watch your full video to see that it was going to be a failure. Just watching the short was enough to understand that water was still going to penetrate the lagoons from around and under the caissons.
“Here’s how it’s *supposed* to work”
Oh boy this gonna be good
It does work, did a presentation on this in highschool
Made it sound like it was gonna be a flunk
and yet, it worked
And as predicted it failed, horribly
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
How Venice stops floods: *GIANT CHEESE*
okay good, I wasn’t the only one who did a double-take at the thumbnail thinking it looked like cheese wedges 😂
good one
lol
Wallus get out of here,
And go find gromit
you get it
"Heres how its supposed to work."
- Titanic engineer
So when I was a kid an aunt of mine went to Venice and I did some research about Venice and well what I found was insane. Lets stop the bullshit and actually do something that should have been done 140 years ago and evacuated the entire city of Venice. So really really stupid reality is Venice has been sinking and the sinking can not stop because stupidly the entire city is on a slap that has been crumbling and about 140 years ago people claim it was put on stilts but what in reality was done was pilers were placed diagonally into the base to slow its collapse because turns out over 200 years ago is when it was first found out that Venice is over a giant sink hole that there is a void under the city that the entire city will eventually fall into and every thing that is being done is not changing the fact that the city will fall into that void and in fact this new flood defense is not going to change the reality that that city is falling apart. In reality every single person still living in Venice is a moron. Reality is over 90% of that city is under water and unlivable. Hell around 80 years ago buildings were built on top of the old city that already fell into the void the city is constantly falling in and new buildings built on top of the old ones. The foundation that these buildings are on is quick sand and every existing building has unrepairable structural damage that is failing faster and faster. The reality is that entire city is only barely not dead and in reality scientists are horrified at the insanity that morons refuse to leave a place that actually should have fully collapsed almost 50 years ago and the fact its not fully fallen in is by random bullshit chance. This 7 billion dollar structure changes nothing about the reality that that city is a zombie city because its a corpse that should already be dead but is barely alive. These morons keep spending billions up on billions to trillions every single year to keep that city from fully collapsing. People call people morons when they refuse to move away from an area that has tornados that rip apart their houses every year but Venice is even stupider to live in because Venice should not exist because Venice is worse because it should have already fully collapsed but 1 of those ancient nearly 140 year old posts that was placed into the city is holding the entire city up and its breaking and when that single pole fully breaks or breaks enough which should have happened over 40 years ago but when it does break every single moron living in Venice will die. Venice is living on borrowed bullshit time and reality check should have been abandoned over a century ago because its a dead city.
Oof... and well, the ships’ flood-prevention gates allegedly did not work which lead to the 20th century disaster.
The 21st century submersible imploded.
Either way, it seems as though you’re correct... is this shit gonna happen again in a century...? Future generations, do not make it a trilogy...
Except the Titanic did everything it was supposed to do. the ship wasnt designed to withstand the massive amount of damage the iceberg caused, so it actually did a really good job at slowing down the flooding.
@@DiamondFireball👊
There was nothing wrong with the titanics engineering or build quality they just werent planning on some dumbass captain ramming full speed into an iceberg
The next Fast and Furious movie will definitely have Dom Toretto driving over these in reverse 😂😂
don’t give them any ideas
Too late! 😂
These were featured in Kevin Hart’s new Netflix movie “Lift”.
@@BeenCleverForever came here it say this : /
A boat
This would be a perfect way to justify random ramps in bond movies.
It’s a submarine ramp
Or tomb raider 2, the game
Mission impossible
😆
Tony Hawk's Pro skater, imagine the possibilities for grinding 😂
When I was in elementary school in Venice, a survey was given to our class with 3 choices of resolving the high tide in Venice, out of the choices I remember picking Moses, fast forward to 20 years later. I had moved to the USA and went to Italy for a year with my husband and his job during that year (2018) was to work on the Moses project. Funny how life works sometimes
That's such a crazy story
Interesting
What were the other choices?
Very jewish solution indeed!you don’t really solve any problem but you ask other people to solve it!
@@ertanuca5463begone from this chat
In our town they put some barriers into the city river. It worked great in no longer flooding the homes… problem is that the flooding ended up in another part of town where the flooding was much worse ….
Yeh it sounds like a bad idea for a river where the water has to end up somewhere, just becomes a dam. This one in particular is just the ocean though, where it doesnt need to divert anywhere.
described a dam
Most the surrounding areas are beaches, and there is flooding protection in those areas already. Though it might make the flooding start "swallowing" beaches, but I am not sure... but it will likely mean more of the beaches get flooded instead.
Build homes in natural floodplain. Homes flood.
**surprised Pikachu face**
Divert river so that the floodplain doesn't flood anymore. Floods just go somewhere else along the river.
**surprised Pikachu face again**
@@Felamine Amazing how accurate this is. I’ve lived in a flood plain my whole life, and yet people keep being surprised when they build houses by the river and they flood. Like, the town becomes an island twice a year and those fields become lakes, what did you think was going to happen? You’d think the problems with building at the very bottom of a river valley would be self evident, and yet
“Sir, our town is flooding, what shall we do?”
“…bring out the flood cheese.”
Plot twist: it didn't
It works for the majority. As planned. Fred money got to his head, he's gone clickbait crazy journo
it works i live in venice and works
@@aeristheblack3725 Didnt they said its not a real solution for the problem and in a few years it will be a problem again?
@@johnny666At least you have a pretty wide gap of time where you can plan better solutions to that problem
@@enricomontanari1390 few years is definitely not enough time to engineer and construct a better solution. A problem of that magnitude will cost hundreds of millions, if not billions and take years to design and then even longer to actually build.
If the Dutch say it won't stop water, it won't stop water
Considering that they built their whole modern economy on anything water related, id agree with you
@@A-G-F-mate 1/3 of their country is built on land reclaimed from the sea, they drained out the water and then declared a new country there 💀
You know what Austin Powers father said about the Dutch
I live in Venice and I assure you that it works
@@WonderBroadcast As a Dutch guy I promise you, Venice will flood sooner or later.
I think it works. I've seen in the movie "The Lift" on Netflix
I was waiting for this comment😂
@@BrandonOlivier-Hallyo same
I also watched them on LIFT on Netflix
As soon as they were lifted, sand and rocks began to fill in behind it and they couldn't be lowered all the way down. Smart.
yeah should been like the panama canal where they can control water getting in and debris wouldn't fall under moving parts.
😂😂😂😂
I’m sure it worked in a sterile lab before nature happened
Lmao, it never even touched the ground
Damn. Could they not attach some type of mesh netting (something without holes amor parts that would trao wildlife) that could lift and fall with the steel parts to block debris from getting in? Or is that unfeasible?
Does anyone here know?
They didn’t even listen to my beaver breeding program
😂
That's a dam shame
@@JamoonXerxesSauber Dam it you beat me to it
All around Venice people exclaim "god, damn it!"
“Strategically placed” yeah if only they had done that for the city itself
Hundreds of years ago, it was really strategically placed. Venice was a huge trading hub, and it gave easy access to the many ships that would come through.
@@masterofthecontinuum that’s true yes but possibilities for the future are normally a big defining factor in many economic investments and putting a heavy city in marshland that close to the ocean has major red flags. But that also could be the bias of what is know today vs then talking.
@@Adultfeetmanyeah pretty sure the founders of Venice were not like "shit this is gonna flood in thousands of years from now".
@@iplyrunescape305 they should have consulted there crystal ball that’s their problem
I remember hearing about this on PBS when it was just a theoretical plan. That was about 27 years ago.
The Dutch experts said this would fail miserably.
It did.
They should've taken their advice and knowledge
What, no it didn’t
@@flashxcate it did
What do you mean? It does work. The completion of the project was delayed by many years and it ended costing much more than it was initially expected. But after completion it works perfectly.
@@eskiltester3913How did it fail?
@@eduardobone8857 Not my comment, credit goes to @patricksanders858:
As soon as they were lifted, sand and rocks began to fill in behind it and they couldn't be lowered all the way down. Smart.
Archeologists in 4024: so... what the hell was this?
…..cheese art?
@@Efflorescentey 😂😂😂 cheeese
Underwater mouse trap?
A tribute to the Italian cheese gods of course
@AlekThink Think Alek Think….we aren’t making it past 2050
I really hate when the story doesn’t explain what it’s supposed to and there’s no link to the video.
London has one of these The Thames Barrier it cost £1.6B in todays money and was built in 1982
MOSE total lenght is three times the Thames barrier, and has not piers the ships can collide with.
@@neutronalchemist3241Deltawerken in the Netherlands would have cost €6.35 billion euros converted from the Guilders. The deltawerken is bigger and more sophisticated than MOSE.
@@jgowner6076 The Deltawerken is just a series of dams. In Venice they didn't want a dam.
@@neutronalchemist3241 please do your homework if you make such a false statement. The Deltawerken have multiple levee's in multiple different places to strengthen and shorten the coastline and an inflatable rubber tube that holds back water. Besides that, in the years we built the Oosterschelde deltawerken, they maintained the nature preserve, where they are currently modifying and improving the Afsluitdijk to restore the old habitats.
@@jgowner6076 Yeah, and leeves are earth dams. So you just stated that the Deltawerken is a series of dams.
Please, switch on your brain before typing.
Had you had at least a minimal knowledge of what you are talking about, you should have known that Venice's lagoon ALREADY has embankments protecting it (murazzi). They had been built in 18th century. It's not that they had to wait for the Dutch to teach them how to pile up dirt. What has to be regulated now, due to the mutated conditions of the lagoon and of the city in the past two and half centuries, is the passage of water in the OPENINGS between the embankments (bocche di porto) WITHOUT ALTERING THEM. They didn't want to build other embankments and didn't want to build evident structures like the Maeslantkering. Do you really think someone needs aid to build a flood gate?
The Dutch are the premiere flood protection/water barrier builders. Their flood gate systems and river lock systems are ingenious.
Lagon would become stinky mess if deprived of its dynamic relation with the sea. It's an environment with a very complex equilbrium both at a sediment level and at a wildlife level. The solution had to be one capable of retaining this equilibrium and as such first of all not something permanent and naturally with the option of fast reverting back to a normale state.
@@GiulioImparato Look for Oosterschelde.
Italy should have just asked them for an estimate to do it and dickered to an agreement.
@@GiulioImparato You're unnecessary..
@@thisisntthewholesomefuture649
Nah i think the unnecessary one is you. That comment sheds great insight
For everyone saying it doesn't work it works. It isn't always actuated as it obviously blocks maritime traffic so they decided to use this device only if the tide exceeds a certain level.
and also if the sea level continues to rise, it won't be effective in 50 years anymore
JESUS AND GOD LOVE EVERYONE TURN TO GOD BEFORE ITS TO LATE
I live in Venice, and the mose has stopped several extreme tidal events in the past year.
Thames barrier method would gave been better. With this you are hoping the hinges dont cease up or get clogged with sand or silt. Thames uses a rotation system.
The Dutch: “ha, skill issue”
There are nothing similar in Netherlands
ok zoomer 🥱
Their language might suck ass but they are efficient enough at least
@@guanovolante7833You're right the dutch did it much better check how they did it it in Zeeland with the oosterschelde 😂😂
@@guanovolante7833because they got better stuff
When he said "here's how it's SUPPOSED to work"...
Tldr: it doesn't work 😂
It actually does.
I looked it up on several news sites and most agree that it has been working fine since 2021, though it wasn't fully complete until 2023, but with the rising tide and sea level from climate change it will likely work for far less time than expected, about 30 years. Though it was always thought to be a temporary solution they expected 100 or so years. And there are concerns about ecological and environmental consequences. But it does currently work.
@@EmmyEmber8lol global warming....
What does tldr mean?
@@gamebreaker60 it means "Too long, Didn't read". Basically just summing something up
I saw it in action in the movie Lift. Didn't know they had their own Thames Barrier now.
This was featured in the movie available in netflix named, LIFT. ❤
Jakarta tried something similar.. they decided to relocate the entire city because it’s easier than HOLDING BACK THE OCEAN!
No, they are relocating the government and leaving us the residents drowning 😂
It's because the soil is sinking due to excessive mineral water extraction under Jakarta city.
@@Itsnotmeysieyou are still alive and have a choice
Jakarta is a totally different case. And just so you know both in Jakarta and in venice the issue is not something like "the ocean advancing". In Jakarta the city is sinking and in Venice the tides are a seasonal issue.
Relocate the city STILL there is people in Jakarta and still gonna be sink
It’ll work somewhat till Mother Nature says no
Mother?
@@Amin10XD what do you mean “mother?” That’s what nature is called
That's what I said...does anybody know how tall the barriers are? 😒🤔
Only to prevent certain floodings I'd say, if it's a tsunami then it's a different story
More of a mother-in-law
You gotta love the guy in 1253 who thought it was a great idea to build there
If youve seen the movie LIFT: kevin hart uses it to escape when he kidnapped a guy, that guy is Ned a.k.a. Jacob😂 the guy from tom hollands movie spiderman
They should have called us, The Dutch, and it would have been completed around 2011 or 2012.
Guess who designed it... the Dutch
Why are the Dutch allowing their farms to be destroyed?
@@areyousur3 if you think it’s about the classical type of farms, then the the animal food lobby got to you too. It’s not about farms, it’s about meat factories that house 2000+ cows, or more than 5000 pigs or hundreds of thousands of chickens. That results in 100,000,000 chickens, 12,000,000 pigs and 4,000,000 cows in a country the size of New York with 18,000,000 citizens. So it’s not about the farmer with dozens of cows, it’s about the factories that produce so much damage to the environment
@@Danferplus they call it “jewel of national engineering”…. I can’t seem to find any Dutch company that mentions designing it
@@Danferplus by the way: We’ve been fighting water here since 600 BC, started building terpen around 500 BC and started regaining land in the form of polders in 1852.
If you've ever been to Venice you'll know nothing is cheap, the price of a cup of coffee is enough to make your eyes water.
nope. ever been, never will.
like any "famous" city, its just a hustle and expensive for no better reason than greed.
let it sink.
Get outa town
only in San Marco, where you are in the top 3 most known square in the world, with a small orchestra playing for you.
it depends on the restaurants you go to.
ive been to venice last year, and the more "hidden" restaurants have both better prices and much better service
Bro you got scammed. I pay 1.80€ for a spritz in venice
Was blessed to be able to visit Venice in 2016. I really hope this works so this gem of Italy can be preserved and ppl can continue visiting.
The very first image conjured the idea something I would not have expected.... *WAVE RACE 64* ramps
I wish they would make a new Wave Race game.
@@DerekMoore82I mean…. The Venusians are on it
Loved that game!
I saw the thumbnail and instantly thought of giant pasta sheets
@@88porpoiseyou had no business making my spit laugh at my screen
It's never a good thing when starting out with, " here's how it's suppose to work.....". 😢
It does work, idk why he said that
Yeah, this is a pretty standard flood defense system. Usually deployed in rivers, not lagoons, but the concept is the same, and its only real failure mode (one of the flaps not rising, either due to the water not getting pumped out properly or the hinges failing) will most likely only happen to one or two of the flaps at a time, so even if part of it fails, the rest will still minimize the damage
Yes, it's a bad thing because it shows a political bias.
Ask Venice people who has suffered from high water level for decades and now they don't.
It works.
no... thaya actually the correct terminology. Do you understand how dofficilt itbis making technologu against nature? Extremely compkicated.
@@ario203ita5he said that because shortly after its installation, sand and other debris got sucked into the space underneath and stopped them from lowering
Mother Nature: "Hold my beer."
At first i was wondering how they would lift those things up because the water is gonna be so heavy to move but its so smart the solution they came with
Theyre just preparing in secret for future kaiju attacks
Lmao hahaha
Yes, the Gojira would trip and fall in this. Looks very effective!
I've seen the tumbnail and all has been made clear. Venice put ramps in the water, so the main character can do some sick trickson their jet-ski or boat or whatever and earn more exp so they can porgress the main quest faster and stop the flood.
That's chill. I like when I actually learn facts from youtube.
😂😂😂
I remember when I saw it as a conceptional work when I was a child. Now I see it here. Wow! Full circle moment
While i was in Venice, i asked why they didn't use Moses for each high tide. The answer: it costs $328,000 each time it's raised. And that cost is paid through Venetian taxes.
Compressed air wouldn't cost 300 thousand dollars
Granted power is necessary to pump the air and there is some cost but you would think they would have thought of a power supply that doesn't break the bank
And the system is manned or supervised at all times so that should affect the cost
Sounds like nonsense
@@chrisgriffith9252dawn probably doesn’t even own a passport
@@DontBeAWollyy
Probably right on that
And it's bullshit.
Tides, even high tides, are required to keep the lagoon water clean. That's why the Moses is lifted only for tides over 90cm, that are the ones that put buildings in danger.
Air is free though... lol
"the project began in 1987"
Me too
@@robomonkey1018😂🎉
They should've started in 2020 so they could know a little more about moving water.
Im in 3456
Catch up
Should have asked the Dutch😂
Should have listened when they spoke
@@oliverklozhoffwhat did the dutch say and do against flooding
@@bered4894 The Dutch are the reason the Dutch don't have webbed feet. Most of their land is below sea level and they have learned a thing or two about keeping it dry.
@@PhilJonesIII looking at old maps they did more than that they drain entire areas that were never even land lol
Still pretty cool but odd looking towards back then
@@PhilJonesIII exactly !
He looked like he was having fun.
I totally thought those were two giant pieces of cheese and for some reason was not surprised
nature.... finds a way.
That's not the quote.
Nature is called a mother and its one of humanity's bitches
@@SalvableRuinwhat is the quote then?
@@jmtheholograma way finds.... nature
@@jmthehologram
Nature... uh, finds a way.
I live above the site of a 1909 dam on the Ohio River that used a similar system called “Bear Trap” gates. Same idea as this, except the sections were manually raised and lowered. That was abandoned in 1921 to make way for fixed crest dams with locks (which I note the system in this video also needed for some reason). It is astonishing that over one HUNDRED years later, they’re still making the same mistakes. There must have been some special interest behind this design for SURE!
Excuse my manners but when you said "special interest" did you meant corruption? I just can't help myself and wonder how massive corruption is in one of the highest cost of living per capita places such as Venice compared to us here in the third world SEA
@@aericacio Italy is one of the most corrupt countries in the world it’s ruled by the mafia
the dams in Venice have to work only when there's a high tide.
They are Not stupid a fixes Dam would Ruin Venice skyline 🤮🤮🤮 they have to make one that only goes up when there is Need and than hide again. Also if Ohio failed 90 years ago doesn’t mean we cannot try in 2023 what logic is that you Even Said it’s Not the same System that was Manual
Those special interests definitely don't live in Venice.
Tom Cruise is SO gonna want to go over these with a jet ski in his next mission impossible movie.
I feel like the people behind this project were looking for a practical way to stop general flooding from high tide. I don't think this would protect them from the types of waves people in tje comment are thinking of. But I do think it will severely reduce the damage of most massive waves not related directly to high tide.
It does not need to stop water from entering the lagoon altogether, it just needs to decrease the flow rate. Water enters the lagoon due to tidal effects, and a tidal cycle lasts approx. 8 hours. In fact, over the several times it has been tested it worked, and not all the three barriers needed to be raised
It was a $7 Billion blunder...hahahahahahaha!!!
At least it was spent on themselves not ukraine
@@yzrippin would've been more useful given to ukraine
@@PrintScreen. no they’re a waste anyway
@@nygreek743goofy ahh statement
he he. $7BN ? more like $100Mil max. rest gone into pockets. corruption in western countries are on another level.
$7 billion for a few doorstops
"Here's how its supposed to work " is the correct way to explain it because even now,the MOSE project is not technically finished. It has been operating two years in experimental mode. Engineers say they are still completing the last backup systems.
26 November 2022.
*Floods the coast. Water goes around
I have read that corrosion interferes with its operation, and that maintaining it has proven to be very expensive. Apparently, this was not a good plan.
Yeah and the fact they have forgotten important geography notes regarding rivers and their maintenance issues; deposition. Rivers carry crap along with them and when they lose energy such as near the mouth where they meet the sea. When the ramps go up and stop the flow there’s only one place where the crap can go that was carried downstream. It’s a problem along the sea coast too requiring harbours especially to be dredged routinely because of all the sand, trash and mud that gets thrown at the bottom.
and too expensive to make it work, because it's not automated, so it's humans doing everything.
And besides, it's not profitable for Venice to use it every time it should, because otherwise tourists can't come and go by boat, so they made a raised walkway system and watertight barriers in the city...
Just fyi, we're masters of bad plans 😂
It was a bad plan indeed - Venice residents are really fed up with it and with the huge cruise ship wanted to get in
What you did read were forecasts "the corrosion WILL interfere, the maintenance WILL be expensive".
The system worked pretty well for over two years by now.
Her feeling those things don't rise High Enough
New Orleans, Louisiana need something like this!
If they consulted the dutch they would fix the problem for half the price and for twice the time
This project is one of the biggest corruption scandal in Venice. The mayor and 34 politicians and businessmen been arrested some years ago in link with this affair. Venise will always be Venice 😅
You are missing the point totally, my friend. The real objective is not to stop water, but to make a few rich with public money.
Building earth dams doesn't require any particular skill. It's not like being able to do them makes you an "expert" in anything regarding water.
Rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic.
Funny thing is, there's only a problem because of the "preserve it" mentality. Venice has always been sinking, always will. People used to have the good sense to keep building upward. They stopped building.
@@thisguy4505Exactly. This is truly the problem. They need to start building back as well as up and move inland. There’s no need to preserve this watery grave. Just build inland and if you want to build up, then demo the bottom and replace the old destroyed materials and rebuild the areas higher. Seems to me a simple solution.
But when the people decide to stop making an effort, nature will eat you alive.
I promise you a private company could've completed this project for less than 1 billion. The amount of money laundered for the "public servants" is astonishing
At first glance of the small thumbnail, I thought it was some kind of giant noodle looking structure and I was infintely more excited for that tbh.
The waves "woah look at that cool ramp"
the flat side is what stops incomng water
Exact same as the Thames barrier that was started almost 50 yrs before. Began in 74, finished in 82 opened in 84.
Thames barrier works. This Italian crap is as bad as their cars
True ...
... but having lived close to the Thames since 1974, once finnished not long after I turned 10, it has yet to fail once ...
@@nigelftMemphis!
Yes, and the Thames barrier actually works.
They could've, and probably should've, built Levee's, leaving small gaps where these special Mose barriers are placed, so that vessels can still pass through when required.
It absolutely looks like a play ground for jet skis
No one better than dutch in the water
Sounds like a residential taxing nightmare
This is why people don’t actually pay their taxes in Italy 😅
Better than having your house/your store flooded. In america you dont pay the state to pay corporation, thats sad
@@alessandro7805well the ramp didn’t work. So they paid for nothing. That’s what they were talking about, I presume.
The whole city is a UNESCO site. Euro funds paid for it, or at least the whole Italy.
@@blueshoes5145 It works
Should help some with storm surges like canal lock gates, but looks a little low.
This is another reason why I love Venice.
Nobody:
The Dutch when they’re bored
It’s not boredom tho, it’s a last ditch effort to survive the coming apocalypse
@@cyborgbob1017 that ditch pun was amazing
@@cyborgbob1017join a doomsday cult and build a bunker. People can move away from the shore at the same time we make advancements in green energy.
Expensive temporary solutions, glad we aren't alone
Mose, the singular version of moses 😂
If they named it MOSES instead of MOSÈ maybe it would have work and parted the sea. This just lifts the water, throws it on the other side while the incoming tidal waves begin to roll in and cascade over this mosè of art 🧀.
Mosè: 😲🫴 LIFT
Flood: *blinks twice*
Moses: 😅⚠️ You should’ve asked for my staff, they would have helped!
Moses AGAIN: *throws stick in water*
Flood: 🌪️🌊
Mosè: 😑
😡🤬🧀 🗑️
Moses: *whistles* 🙄📜
Mosè: 😔
Regardless of whatever we try to do. Mother nature will always make sure she gets her way
Why did you use a period instead of a comma?
Not in all cases we can make things go extinct after all
I wish that were true. But just look at what we've done to her planet.
@@SalvableRuinbecause periods signify flow in RL. Commas signify flow in punctuation only... LMAO
The lagoon is artificial actually. Had "Mother Nature got his way", it would have been completely filled by sediments in 16th century. Since Venetians wanted their city to still be built on water, they changed the course of a pair of rivers. The lagoon had been saved, and the sediments started to build the nowadays delta of the Po river.
The stupidity of this design is mind boggling. The platforms rise up and leave an empty space. Ofcourse there will be sedimentation so every time the platforms are up you will get dirt under them untill they won't properly close anymore. They will thus need to be regularly cleaned which is costly.
Also, having all of the moving and important bits underwater will of course increase maintenance costs as you will need to work under water more and also have more work as the water will increase corrosion to those parts.
I am Dutch and I agree with the other comments saying they should probably have consulted us...
Welcome to Italy 🤷🏻♀️
You’re absolutely right. I am but a simple man but even I would have asked you guys for help concerning a problem with flooding. Pretty arrogant of them to not get advice from the country in the whole world that knows all there is to know in this matter.
👍🏻🇸🇪
Of course being a Dutch makes you above some hundreds of civilian engineers, damn internet is becoming a curse to common sense lol
@@adolphin9348 yes, but only if you wear clogs 👍🏻😂
@@adolphin9348 LOL, I am not that delusional. Currently writing my thesis on water infrastructure operation and maintenance as part of the study land and water management. The thing is that not every civil engineer has the right knowledge to work with watermanagement structures. There are special engineering firms for major water management projects and most of them are Dutch...
I really appreciated this video. Thank you
I thought those were defensive SpongeBobs
Giant cheese wedges can never go wrong
That dock worker about to lose some fingers in the mooring 😵💫
I saw this in the movie LIFT (Kevin Hart) and I didn't thought that it is a actual thing.
See I thought it was going to be some genius idea like making a counter wave to cancel out the incoming waves but just making a wall isn't going to do much depending on the height
"Nature finds a Way,"
- Ian Malcolm
It’s still floods, we were there a couple weeks ago😊
That's because they don't use it until the water reaches a certain level :)
@@nnlopossodire tbf, most of the flooding is due to the misshaped and warped ground, I think it puddles up then just spills over that’s how a lot of shops and places get flooded quite bad regularly. Surprised they don’t use sandbags as often
@@coreymckinney7423 why would they use sandbags if it doesn't reached their houses.. houses are on a higher level than the streets, that's why they don't care if there's water on them, just put some boots on and you're fine
@@nnlopossodire you are correct houses are built higher, but the shops and restaurants are not. It’s not necessarily for the people who want to walk around in the wet, it’s for protecting the inside and the items they hold inside these building that is important.
Ironically these were in the new movie Lift on Netflix so they could make their getaway from interpol.
I like how the name is derived from Moses, who parted the Red Sea
Moses used the right cheese. 🧀
Gouda not Swiss. 🧀 😋😂
These types of things always seem to break when you need them most... either that or they just don't work as well as intended.
Not in the Netherlands, only in every other country trying to do it without our help. Idiot cultures deserve idiot prices
Is there a time you would need this less than the most? 😂
@@ryanbianchi6582 normally it should be used every day and yet they don't, why? too expensive to make it work, because it's not automated, so it's humans doing everything.
And tourists would be stuck every day on one side or the other of the barrier, a barrier that is financed by the presence of tourists who come by boat...
So they made a raised walkway system and watertight barriers in the city...
Much cheaper, but still temporary.
No doubt you don’t have to be an engineer to see that idea was a failure from the start
Venice is gonna be underwater city
This is the best civ 6 graphics mod ive seen yet 💪🏾
Ngl the yellow circles looked like we had medallions from fn
My ass thought it was a ramp 💀
I love the little hinge sounds they added lol
Now a cool boat ramp too lol 😂
I read the title as "How Venice stops FOODS" and I thought the 2 big yellow things were swiss cheese
They've been trying to get that thing to work for as long as I have been alive
And from 2020 it is working.
Omg right! i remember a Modern Marvels episode about it when I was a kid XD
So you’re 3?
No but for real it doesn't seen that long ago..but they started that project back in 2003
I'm sorry for your loss of moneys.
We met an architect from
Venice on our way back from Venice and learned about this from him. He said this was the most expensive and time consuming they ever did which does not even work. 😂
It actually works but ok.
Fake
Incredibly ingenious!!!
Only negative pressure can work. An opposing pressure of water being pumped continuously back at the natural surging pressure could reduce flooding significantly. Along with other barriers placed at increments further out . Breaking down the rage of natural water surge reduces damage, flooding,...