I use Viridian (DS) + French Ultramarine (DS) + Permanent Alizarin Crimson (Winsor & Newton). I think that Viridian makes the granulation better. And by the way: Viridian is the most underrated color. Mix it with Yellow Ochre for example or another light Ochre or Yellow you'll get beautiful muted greens.
Hello... New with Wc here. I didn't even know the name Moonglow before starting this tutorial that wanted Moonglow as one of the colours... As I have quite an amateur palette - with a few loose profesional pans and tubes I didn't have Anthraquinoide Red (hadn't even heard about it until I started looking into what is Moonglow. . I bought a half pan of PAC a while ago, so instead of Anthraquinoide I tried PAC. So I mixed like you (Viridian, Ultramarine and PAC, but wanted to check the internet if I'd done right or wrong. This is exciting! And thank you so much for this channel, Kris deBruine! I'm learning a lot!
I use Ultramarine PB29, Viridian PG18 and Quin Coral PR209 or Quin Red PV19. I find that using PG7 instead of the original viridian PG18 (while it's a good replacement to achieve the hue) makes the end result to show less green separation. This is because PG18 is granulating while PG7 is not. The disadvantage of using PG18 is that it is lower tinting strength and you need more quantity than PG7 to achieve the same hue, however I still prefer it to PG7 for this mix.
I love PG7!!! As a color or when it's added to make a "Turquoise" for example... Some brands have it in their tubes... Phthalo Turquoise Sennelier!!! Many others. Thank you for sharing!
While PR 178 may be more light fast than PR 177, it still shows issues with being fugitive. I believe any red that is middle of the road or cooler, would be fine as long as Veridian and ultramarine are used. That is if you want to achieve the same separation properties.
I loved this!!! Wow! It took some effort... the main reason we may like our 'convenience' colors ready to go when we're ready to paint 😊 I love your art!!! Thank you for sharing from a California Gramma ❤
Hi Joyce. I'm not sure. Daniel Smith lists the color as "Excellent Lightfastness". However if you look on their color charts, you see t is marked an "unverified ranking". For most people it is probably not a big deal. But if your art is being sold, and it will be hanging on a wall for decades, it could be a BIG deal. I did this video because I've had my audience ask about how to MIX Moonglow from scratch. Thanks for watching. ~Kris
And the 3rd question: I have my watercolor (the white nights) only in pans now. I want to mix them into the moonglow, is it possible, or I have to buy paints in tubes only to mix my own color and put it in a pan?
I don't use pans. But, I don't think you could get enough pigment load from a pan, to mix a large amount of pigments to get a bunch of Moonglow. When using pans, most people just mix what they need for a specific painting.....one painting at a time. But as I said earlier. Everyone has their own preferences.
Thank you! I want to know, if I mix my own moonglow, can I put it in the tube and / or in a pan so I could take it outside to paint??? Is it going to be as others my paints in pans??
You can certainly mix up a large amount of the "Moonglow" paint and put it in a pan, so you can bring it with you. I don't tend to do that. I prefer a limited palette of colors on my palette and then mix the colors I need, as I paint. But everyone has their own preferences.
I wish Anthraquinoid red was more solidly lightfast. Pyrrol crimson is a similar hue and lightfast but just isn't as beautiful on it's own. Pyrrols in general, while really strong, seem a bit flat and uninteresting to me
No mars black, you need pg18 viridian to make a duplicate for moonglow. Red plus blue plus mars black will be something else. It could look like a DS primatek because of the graulating black pigment. Something like amethyst (without the sparkles). Experiment!
Thanks for your helpful reply to this question. I totally agree with your final statement -- Experiment!! That is the best way to learn about the colors on our palette. They can do so much more than we imagine. Have a great day. ~kris
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Great video,I just signed up for your newsletter. Thank you for generosly sharing your talents
You're welcome.
Thank you, love the turquoise mixing recipes 😍
Great!!!
I use Viridian (DS) + French Ultramarine (DS) + Permanent Alizarin Crimson (Winsor & Newton).
I think that Viridian makes the granulation better.
And by the way: Viridian is the most underrated color. Mix it with Yellow Ochre for example or another light Ochre or Yellow you'll get beautiful muted greens.
Thanks for the tip!!
Thanks! I've never been crazy about that color, but I'll definitely see how it comes out with yellow ochre. 😉
Thanks for watching.
Hello... New with Wc here. I didn't even know the name Moonglow before starting this tutorial that wanted Moonglow as one of the colours...
As I have quite an amateur palette - with a few loose profesional pans and tubes I didn't have Anthraquinoide Red (hadn't even heard about it until I started looking into what is Moonglow. .
I bought a half pan of PAC a while ago, so instead of Anthraquinoide I tried PAC. So I mixed like you (Viridian, Ultramarine and PAC, but wanted to check the internet if I'd done right or wrong.
This is exciting!
And thank you so much for this channel, Kris deBruine! I'm learning a lot!
I use Ultramarine PB29, Viridian PG18 and Quin Coral PR209 or Quin Red PV19.
I find that using PG7 instead of the original viridian PG18 (while it's a good replacement to achieve the hue) makes the end result to show less green separation. This is because PG18 is granulating while PG7 is not.
The disadvantage of using PG18 is that it is lower tinting strength and you need more quantity than PG7 to achieve the same hue, however I still prefer it to PG7 for this mix.
Thank you so much for sharing your recipe. I appreciate it and so do my viewers. Have a great day! ~Kris
I love PG7!!! As a color or when it's added to make a "Turquoise" for example... Some brands have it in their tubes... Phthalo Turquoise Sennelier!!! Many others. Thank you for sharing!
Thanks for watching!!
While PR 178 may be more light fast than PR 177, it still shows issues with being fugitive. I believe any red that is middle of the road or cooler, would be fine as long as Veridian and ultramarine are used. That is if you want to achieve the same separation properties.
Hey. This is great feedback. Thanks for sharing.
I really like moonglow. Prefer it over Payne’s grey, especially for night scenes.
I agree. It is a BEAUTIFUL color. Thanks for watching and leaving feedback. ~Kris
I used what I had, pyrrol scarlet. It did a good job.
Thanks for sharing. I agree -- use what you have and see if you can get the Moonglow mix. Also...have fun!! :-)
I loved this!!! Wow! It took some effort... the main reason we may like our 'convenience' colors ready to go when we're ready to paint 😊 I love your art!!! Thank you for sharing from a California Gramma ❤
Yes. I agree. They call them "convenience" for a reason. :-) Have a great day.
I agree with you
I love Moonglow! Why didn't DS use these colors?🤔
Hi Joyce. I'm not sure. Daniel Smith lists the color as "Excellent Lightfastness". However if you look on their color charts, you see t is marked an "unverified ranking". For most people it is probably not a big deal. But if your art is being sold, and it will be hanging on a wall for decades, it could be a BIG deal. I did this video because I've had my audience ask about how to MIX Moonglow from scratch. Thanks for watching. ~Kris
This is great because I use a lot of Moonglow, but have never tried mixing it! I will now…..thanks! Jo in France 🇫🇷
You're so welcome! Thanks for watching.
You are right
Brilliant! Thank You very much Kris!
You're welcome. Thanks for watching
Thank you for this!
You're welcome. Thanks for watching.
Thanks, definitely give this ago. In the past I used to use (ds)Graphite Grey + (WN)dio-Violet(PV23)
I hope you find this helpful. Thanks for leaving a comment.
I like Denise's gray from da vinci. While its not exactly the same its pretty close and its light fast
Great suggestion. Thanks.
Thank you
You're welcome
And the 3rd question: I have my watercolor (the white nights) only in pans now. I want to mix them into the moonglow, is it possible, or I have to buy paints in tubes only to mix my own color and put it in a pan?
I don't use pans. But, I don't think you could get enough pigment load from a pan, to mix a large amount of pigments to get a bunch of Moonglow. When using pans, most people just mix what they need for a specific painting.....one painting at a time. But as I said earlier. Everyone has their own preferences.
Thank you, it was very informative and helpful
Glad it was helpful!
Thank you! I want to know, if I mix my own moonglow, can I put it in the tube and / or in a pan so I could take it outside to paint??? Is it going to be as others my paints in pans??
You can certainly mix up a large amount of the "Moonglow" paint and put it in a pan, so you can bring it with you. I don't tend to do that. I prefer a limited palette of colors on my palette and then mix the colors I need, as I paint. But everyone has their own preferences.
I wish Anthraquinoid red was more solidly lightfast. Pyrrol crimson is a similar hue and lightfast but just isn't as beautiful on it's own. Pyrrols in general, while really strong, seem a bit flat and uninteresting to me
Thanks for sharing
Another question: can I mix red, blue and mars black to get the moonglow color?
Sorry, I can not speak to the use of Mars Black. I don't keep any blacks on my watercolor palette.
No mars black, you need pg18 viridian to make a duplicate for moonglow. Red plus blue plus mars black will be something else. It could look like a DS primatek because of the graulating black pigment. Something like amethyst (without the sparkles). Experiment!
Thanks for your helpful reply to this question. I totally agree with your final statement -- Experiment!! That is the best way to learn about the colors on our palette. They can do so much more than we imagine. Have a great day. ~kris