“Moreover, once you purchase a Luxury (Premium) Battle Pass, you can continue to redeem its rewards in subsequent seasons if you don’t finish it during the current season. There’s no need to worry about not having enough time to complete it.” “In addition to the monetization system outlined above, achievements and events will provide free costumes and other cosmetic items. Free UNITS will also be distributed, allowing you to purchase paid cosmetics without spending money while still enjoying cosmetic items. Your hard work will speak for itself as you look good on the battlefield!” I BETTER NOT HEAR A SINGLE PERSON IN THE OW COMMUNITY ASK TO BRING BACK LOOTBOXES I have been saying Overwatch should implement the ability to earn paid cosmetics by earning currency in game but everyone kept giving me shit me saying they’ll never do it and that they should bring back lootboxes. Marvel Rivals did just that without lootboxes. OW and the community have NO EXCUSES now Thank you Marvel Rivals, I feel so validated right now
@MrCalalf I got 27 more legendaries in the 1 and a half years playing overwatch for free than paying for battle passes in overwatch 2 the past 2 years and I didn't have to pay over 100 dollars for a couple of bundles of skins
@@MrCalalf Note that the major reason OW players went on about lootboxes alot was simply the major difference in progression due to current ow2 compared to ow1, atleast for playing and lvling, atleast got something that they were grinding for, Duplicates rewarded a currency so even if you didn't get what you wanted, if you saved up enough you could just buy it outright with just the earned currentcy from just playing the game and earning lootboxes. YOU DIDN'T HAVE TO SPEND IRL MONEY FOR ANY OF IT. You always got something even if you didn't spend any money on buying lootboxes. Remember when ow2 first launched the game pretty much got cut in half and was more predatory, i haven't gone back to ow2 since and alot of people just simply don't trust blizzard anymore to make something THAT promising, the lootboxes was the closest thing alot of players got to even getting something worth while. Obviously they can't go back because of the laws but simply why alot of people have that sentiment
It is very nice. Though I am curious. Am I the only one who still thinks that more than ten dollars for a skin is just too much? I know value is subjective, and it makes sense that special skins from the MCU would be more, but I guess i'm just worried that people have confined themselves to expensive skins. In other words, they just see it as the way things are rather than actually considering the value of the product.
@@MinkDaddyPeople are going to get their favorite skins and honestly some skins that are free in most games are better then the expensive ones. At least for me 🤷🏿♂️😅
@@LacTose90 I can agree and I was just about to say this. There is 33+ heros with plans to be more and just like in any other game their will be people who main certain people so spending $10 for a skin ur gonna use every game makes sense. Also there is the whole thing with the battlepass and how well they made it out. The most important part to take out is that this is a free to play game with so much to offer and if I just have to spend $10 for a skin and they keep pushing out amazing gameplay and fixed I have 0 problem with that. Small price to pay for supporting a company that ACTUALLY CARES.
@ChompieWompie it's certainly better than overwatch 2. I can see what both of you are saying, too. As long as people use their brains and understand they're not just slaves of a capitalist system with no choice, then I'm happy.
It also gives the game another trait to make it different from competitors. Making it first person who draw attention to COD, OW, CS, Valorant, the Finals, R6S, APEX, and every other big fps game currently on the market. With third person, the only real big comparisons are Fortnite and Helldivers. Still competition but significantly less in that area. Not even counting that people will be more likely to buy skins that they can see on their own character.
TLDR: skins cost a little cheaper than in most games, two major currencies that being Latice (premium currency) and units (free currency) you can buy skins with free units or buy them out right with Latice. Units will be earned by just playing the game. Edit: I have this weird talent, a talent of starting wars in the reply section like WHAT?
@@Kabal39 The $24 bundle was the legendary bundle tier. That one skin itself wasn't $24. We need to see how much the skin alone cost outside the bundle.
I hope they won't be like overwatch where if you have for example 500 free tokens and 1000 paid ones you can't buy a 1500 cost skin, you have to have 1500 of either currency not a combination
@@AgentSmith939Travis Willingham also voices two characters in this game. But I don’t agree that Nolan should voice DP. He sounds way too similar to Rocket and not because it’s literally Nolan but because Deadpool is just him but goofy. Rocket is him but cocky. He’s a great voice actor but he sounds too recognizable, if that makes sense
Yeah the voice actors/actresses are awesome in this game like the names they were able to get to voice. An example being Kiriko's VA from OW is voicing Peni Parker afaik and from what I could hear from Cloak and Dagger, it might be Juno's VA. It's awesome. Interested to see if there is any legal issues or conflict of interest when it comes to their contract or w/e for OW2 since they're gonna be doing VA work for this game.
Are there any others in the hero shooter genre? I’m a fighting game player so I see many stance characters but I don’t play any other hero shooters unless u count deadlock.
This is the exact same monetization system as Overwatch, them saying "we will give some currency for free" doesn't mean anything since they don't say how much, Overwatch does give you free currency just by playing but not enough to be able to buy new cosmetics regularly You will likely get just enough currency to buy epic skins but not enough for legendary
@@ni9274with enough patience you can save for two seasons to buy like 2 skins, but it's better small but constant challenges than a long term challenge for one skin, it's more satisfying. but i know the challenges the devs have and i wish someday it could be like that. there's nothing better than the winton shitpost.
@@ni9274 overwatch doesnt allow you to use their free, earnable currency for shop skins however, only the hero gallery ones. Rivals stated they will be letting you earn free currency to buy paid shop skins, thats the difference between them
How so? Doesn't matter how much you play, you will never buy the premium battle pass with free currency. Moreover, the skins on the premium battle pass might never return, so if you don't buy it and "collect " the items you missed out.
@@karlkhai51 it’s actually very hard, many studios have tried to take down dominating games like COD, destiny and Overwatch and almost all of them have failed and ended up closing down. Sony just tried this with Concord and look at how that went
@@reti5828 going “woke” had nothing to do with the failure of the game, it was the game as a whole that didn’t improve on anything Overwatch already had and had bad gameplay so there was no reason for players to switch to Concord. And maybe you don’t understand what woke means but Overwatch is the wokest game around it’s just the most popular in its genre so people ignore it
Good monetization, but it still looks like a mobile game while running significantly worse than OW or pretty much any other esports game does. And it''s developed by a chinese company. But more competition is good and 3rd person is different.
@ idk that shi was looking pretty nice on my set up. Either way I believe the characters will speak for themselves and ppl will play for a while just cause of that. Ik i will
The fact we get monetization like this from Netease of all companies still blows my mind. In terms of aesthetics, that Loki bundle alone has sold me (I'm a *MASSIVE* fan of the show).
@@Kabal39 Even if it isn't in the grand scheme of things - it's pretty good, especially for a F2P title. Whoever is in charge of Rivals marketing has done an amazing job over the year and with hype secured all they needed is to show that monetization is going to be fair to secure a good launch n' players for months ahead. Honestly just smart marketing and a good product all around.
@@Kabal39 This monetization system lives rent free in your head lol. It's not bad compared to others and if you don't like it, get this, you don't have to buy anything! Stop commenting on people's praise of the system, apparently, you don't have the brains to understand what a relative comparison is.
"some of the best monetization I ever seen in game" What ? Their monetization is literally copy pasted OW monetization but you can keep the battlepass longer. In games like helldiver 2 you can earn everything for free, in Marvel Rivals it will likely be like ovewatch, you get a few premium currency every seasons just enough to buy one epic skin
I love being able to complete the battle pass without a time limit. I have health issues that make it impossible for me to play some days which means I can't always complete time-sensitive things. This also means that some of the quirky/fun/relatively rare high-level items from a battle pass don't require no-lifeing the game. There's no real "loss" to the devs for this style either, because you'd still have to buy the next season's battle pass if you want the newer items.
Yeah, honestly, I don't see ANY REASON why the battlepass should be FOMO. Respect the players' time, and the players will respect you. That is the problem with OW, they don't respect the players' time and could get away with it due to being the only 'good' game in its genre. Not anymore. If OW got put into the ground, I'd be happy. OW is too good of a game for the devs to maintain, so just put the dying dog down.
@@Chazza-01 expect it works, just look at something like war thunder and how it handles its events and bps with their paid tiers skips etc. If fomo didnt work, it wouldnt be so widespread in the entire industry.
@@Kaspiderv2 It is widespread in the industry because the gaming industry is full of games which do not respect the players time. Sometimes reputation is better than wringing the player base for every penny
For that price of the battle pass and to be able to progress it on your own time is truly fantastic. The items it gives already look very worth too! Amazing work!
4:27 I feel the exact same way for a lot of the same reasons you said! I also think it just fits with it being a bunch of Marvel superheroes so well, makes it feel even more fun
Same makes it more unique makes it feel like not everyone sitting across the map everyone got no choice but to push bc they melee characters and only can do damage by be up close and personal
I'm surprised but glad Marvel Rivals took lessons from Helldivers 2 and have permanent things but mostly being able to choose what you want instead of being stuck on a linear path! So much better than a lot of games. I can't wait to play this tomorrow night!
Digital Extremes are gonna have a (heh) rival in terms of the most lovable devs xD But for real, I'm happy they are taking such a customer friendly approach, let they stream and talk to the community from time to time and I see a bright future ahead for the game
I wish we knew a studio name for the people working on this game instead of just "net ease" because they certainly don't have a good monetization reputation. These devs should reap the good reputation
a rule i have when playing games with a battlepass was i wouldnt buy the bp till i completed it cause ive had quite a few bps i bought and never finished, a game that allows u to keep unlocking it even after the season is over seems like a massive win for the company cause it insentivises people like me to purchase the battle pass even before they finish theres no worry about not being able to finish it
Exactly cuz for casual players we rlly don’t have enough time to finish battle passes like fortnite especially if the ‘good’ skin is at the last tier on a timer
man this is NICE, you get everything in a bundle and the battlepass can be done at any time, tbh i hope they do what the finals does and lets you buy anything at anytime regardless if it leaves the store, the finals has the best free to play monetization imo so i hope more companys follow behind them
I really hope that overwatch looks at this and realises that they are in a bit of danger from this. People were already slightly worried about the gameplay alone, but also having this battlepass system really makes me hope they decide to actually do something like this. (this is definitely a bit of cope for sure but its good to hope once in a while)
I think every game like this has that problem because the "dps" role/class is the most popular but yeah I agree they should focus on releasing a few more strategists and vanguards
Wolverine is the tankiest Marvel character between his adamantium skeleton and his healing factor. Plus because he's an up-close relentless brawler, he fits into the Vanguard role. It'd be a lot like Venom or Thor, not there because they have a bunch of defenses and shields, but because they get up in the enemy's face and take the focus.
It is insane that Marvel Rivals monetization model actually sounds like it respects their players time and money. I'm a grown man who is about to cry with how beautiful that sounds to me as a free-to-play player.
exactly, free epic skins for f2p’s too, and not only that, these devs were the people that made the collector stuff in msw making them like 200$ 💀 Im glad they’re reaching their deserved progress for there time and hard work in this game
Wolverine jumps on hulks arm and gets thrown Flats: was that the team up with Hulk? bruh, get a load of this guy. he always gets me with these unaware moments 😅
A worry about the battle pass that I have is if working on a previous pass comes at the cost of rewards on a current pass. Like if I spend 20 tokens on the previous pass I can't get a part of the current pass because I don't have the ability to gain more tokens. I hope you can always earn the chrono tokens because its sort of a "reward" for playing after finishing the battle pass which could let you get a head start on the next one
So if it works like helldivers battlepasses, you have multiple pages of items per pass and you can buy things on the first page in any order and once you have spent enough coins unlocking stuff on the first page you get access to the second... then once you've spent enough between the first 2 pages to pass the threshold the next page unlocks. It lets them still stack the last pages with potentially the most exciting things... but you as a player have some control over the order you unlock things since you can skip things you care less about and only grab the stuff you care most about on each page as it unlocks. It feels a bit more like meeting the player halfway than a linear battlepass.
I don't like that Wolverine is a dps and not a tank, because he is literally a tank in the comics. That's why he dresses in the bright yellow suit, to attract attention so enemies shoot at him.
I feel like they're getting EVERYTHING right with Marvel Rivals. They clearly put a lot of thought into their release strategy, because one, early december is a perfect time to release a game, and two, the insane number of heroes they're giving us right away. And to top that off, they've made a point of having extremely consumer-friendly monetization and exciting cosmetics. I sincerely hope that this game never loses this level of quality.
@4:30 i was already hyped with the reveal of Magik during the first initial reveal, seeing all the other melee characters coming out after her has me more hyped.
Words cannot describe how excited I am to play this. Literally everything they’ve announced is EXACTLY what everyone says Overwatch does poorly. I really hope the competition gives Blizzard a bit of a wake up call.
With the sheer number of melee characters, high mobility, especially vertical mobility, and vertical dynamics to all the maps this game really feels like a cross between an arena hero shooter like its trying to be and a platform fighter and im so here for it
Cloak and Dagger seems to be similar to Hel's mechanics in smite where you change between light and dark and have different abilities in it. Seems nice!
Flats, am just gonna help you here with MCU and the normal stuff. The MCU is the movies and series, MCU stands for Marvel Cinematic Universe, and the normal is the comic books and all other content marvel has released
So glad someone else shares my notion on melee characters and how the only form of skill expression isnt a character with projectile or hitscan coded ranged weapons..
I’m 34 now buts it’s crazy how far free to play games have come. When I was a kid it was basically cheap flash games on ebaum’s world. Kids these days are eating good. Good quality games without spending a dime.
Ya, they have definitely won me over. The battlepass system, the monetization, and all heroes for free is just amazing. Definitely giving this game a shot!
No one remembers that the catch with the halo infinite battle pass was that you could ONLY progress it by completing challenges. The backlash was extreme and it changed later on where you progress by just playing.
Actually peak having you not have to rush to get everything on the Battle pass since you can always get it without worrying about having everything on the battle pass gone
So the pass is like Helldiver2, that you can redeem any item in any season after. The thing is, Super Credit in HD2 can be found in the map by playing normal games, but they said Chrono tokens can be earned by doing tasks and events. The important question here would be, even though the pass will never expire, do these tasks and events only go active after we buy a pass, and do they expire after the season ends?
I love battlepasses that you can finish whenever like the ones in Deeprock and Decieve Inc. since I don't have enough time to game as much to unlock the skins I want.
Honestly was not expecting them to allow people to continue Battle passes after the seasons are over, but I'm pleasantly surprised. I think this is a very fair model as well. I think letting you continue them as long as you pay is a pretty fair way to balance it. If I'm not feeling the game for a while but like the costumes I can just hop on, buy it and be done for a while
If anything the battle pass for rivals maybe similar to the ones in Hell Divers 2. HD2 uses Medals as currency and you can buy what you want and not everything in each section.
Theory (Guys like this later if it's true), but I feel like the S1-onwards battle passes should be able to afford the next battle pass, but I wouldn't be shocked if the S0 couldn't afford the next one, since it's half as long. Part of this is my S1 battle pass theory. Season 0 is gonna draw in a lot of players, but if the game has balance issues or anything, it may die off a little bit by the time Season 1 launches in a month. Season 1: Deadpool. Deadpool will absolutely bring in tons of players, a Deadpool-themed battle pass could do incredibly well too. It's practically free money. Imagine Jeff in a Dogpool outfit, or a legendary Gwenpool skin for Deadpool himself. He's the obvious money-maker choice for a big start to their standard battle passes.
I wonder if they’ll do different versions of characters like for example making some characters be a vanguard or a duelist or a support. Kind of like marvel vs capcom. You could do different version of characters or a different loadout essentially. That would be interesting on the opposing team’s perspective you wouldn’t know if their spidey is a duelist or a support or whatever.
Having battle passes be permanent is so good. I feel like timed passes makes people less likely to buy them. Like for me if I see a pass that I like but i know I won’t be able to play much that season for some reason I won’t buy the pass, but if I can earn it whenever then I’m more likely to buy a pass and therefore play the game more. I wish all games with passes did this!
I remember when Blizzard announced that they were doing a mobile Diablo with NetEase and people lost their minds. Now NetEase is blowing people's minds with Marvel Rivals. Not that people were wrong on their Diablo Immortal take (vastly different monetization for one,) but it's a great turn around for NetEase to be redefining people's expectations on what kind of quality they might get with a free to play licensed game. NetEase is going from a disappointing announcement at a Blizzcon, to producing a game that might well steal a ton of players from a top Blizzard game.
Dude so happy they are taking the systems from like Halo, Deep rock, and Helldivers for the battle passes. Not having a time limit is FANTASTIC
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A plus in comparison to OW, is that the game is 3rd person, so you actually see your character skin.
you can see your weapon in ow
@@ni9274yeah but not the whole skin
@@ni9274okay?
@@ni9274so you are paying 20 dollars for a weapon skin?
@@cratebox7311I die all the time so I see mine often. Sounds like a skill issue
“Moreover, once you purchase a Luxury (Premium) Battle Pass, you can continue to redeem its rewards in subsequent seasons if you don’t finish it during the current season. There’s no need to worry about not having enough time to complete it.”
“In addition to the monetization system outlined above, achievements and events will provide free costumes and other cosmetic items. Free UNITS will also be distributed, allowing you to purchase paid cosmetics without spending money while still enjoying cosmetic items. Your hard work will speak for itself as you look good on the battlefield!”
I BETTER NOT HEAR A SINGLE PERSON IN THE OW COMMUNITY ASK TO BRING BACK LOOTBOXES
I have been saying Overwatch should implement the ability to earn paid cosmetics by earning currency in game but everyone kept giving me shit me saying they’ll never do it and that they should bring back lootboxes.
Marvel Rivals did just that without lootboxes. OW and the community have NO EXCUSES now
Thank you Marvel Rivals, I feel so validated right now
You could buy skins and cosmetics with coins during the loot box era it wasnt litterally only loot boxes
@@jimzh7669 but with this, you don’t need lootboxes, basically proving that lootboxes are an unnecessary.
@MrCalalf I got 27 more legendaries in the 1 and a half years playing overwatch for free than paying for battle passes in overwatch 2 the past 2 years and I didn't have to pay over 100 dollars for a couple of bundles of skins
what nooo. I love gambling, it's so cool and fun.
We should totally add gambling to more games, it's not harmful to the consumer at all.
@@MrCalalf Note that the major reason OW players went on about lootboxes alot was simply the major difference in progression due to current ow2 compared to ow1, atleast for playing and lvling, atleast got something that they were grinding for, Duplicates rewarded a currency so even if you didn't get what you wanted, if you saved up enough you could just buy it outright with just the earned currentcy from just playing the game and earning lootboxes.
YOU DIDN'T HAVE TO SPEND IRL MONEY FOR ANY OF IT. You always got something even if you didn't spend any money on buying lootboxes.
Remember when ow2 first launched the game pretty much got cut in half and was more predatory, i haven't gone back to ow2 since and alot of people just simply don't trust blizzard anymore to make something THAT promising, the lootboxes was the closest thing alot of players got to even getting something worth while.
Obviously they can't go back because of the laws but simply why alot of people have that sentiment
I don't see any issues with their monetization system. The fact that the entirety of the game (all maps and heroes) are unlocked for free is a win.
It is very nice. Though I am curious. Am I the only one who still thinks that more than ten dollars for a skin is just too much? I know value is subjective, and it makes sense that special skins from the MCU would be more, but I guess i'm just worried that people have confined themselves to expensive skins. In other words, they just see it as the way things are rather than actually considering the value of the product.
@@MinkDaddyPeople are going to get their favorite skins and honestly some skins that are free in most games are better then the expensive ones.
At least for me 🤷🏿♂️😅
@@LacTose90 I can agree and I was just about to say this. There is 33+ heros with plans to be more and just like in any other game their will be people who main certain people so spending $10 for a skin ur gonna use every game makes sense. Also there is the whole thing with the battlepass and how well they made it out. The most important part to take out is that this is a free to play game with so much to offer and if I just have to spend $10 for a skin and they keep pushing out amazing gameplay and fixed I have 0 problem with that. Small price to pay for supporting a company that ACTUALLY CARES.
@ChompieWompie it's certainly better than overwatch 2.
I can see what both of you are saying, too. As long as people use their brains and understand they're not just slaves of a capitalist system with no choice, then I'm happy.
@@MinkDaddyindustry standard
Tbf Flats, Third-person does allow for more melee characters in games. I'm glad they are leaning into that.
Not only that, but you can actually see the skins you are using and not just their hands lol.
It also gives the game another trait to make it different from competitors. Making it first person who draw attention to COD, OW, CS, Valorant, the Finals, R6S, APEX, and every other big fps game currently on the market.
With third person, the only real big comparisons are Fortnite and Helldivers. Still competition but significantly less in that area.
Not even counting that people will be more likely to buy skins that they can see on their own character.
this 100%...more melee is better. I dont mean all melee but having a good mix is the way to go.
now we just need a funny character with an uppercut, punch, and slam that goes towards the ground all in 1 character to make this game perfect 👅👅🤤🤤🤤
Fats not flats
TLDR: skins cost a little cheaper than in most games, two major currencies that being Latice (premium currency) and units (free currency) you can buy skins with free units or buy them out right with Latice. Units will be earned by just playing the game.
Edit: I have this weird talent, a talent of starting wars in the reply section like WHAT?
Also battlepass once bought can be completed anytime so no more fomo.
30 dollars aren’t a little cheaper lmao
@@Kabal39 The $24 bundle was the legendary bundle tier. That one skin itself wasn't $24. We need to see how much the skin alone cost outside the bundle.
@@Kabal39 cheaper than what ow2 sells 1 skin for bozo
I hope they won't be like overwatch where if you have for example 500 free tokens and 1000 paid ones you can't buy a 1500 cost skin, you have to have 1500 of either currency not a combination
I can’t believe they got steve blum to voice Wolverine, lowkey awesome
He’s also voicing Venom. Now let’s hope Nolan North will do Deadpool since he is already voicing Rocket.
@@AgentSmith939Travis Willingham also voices two characters in this game. But I don’t agree that Nolan should voice DP. He sounds way too similar to Rocket and not because it’s literally Nolan but because Deadpool is just him but goofy. Rocket is him but cocky. He’s a great voice actor but he sounds too recognizable, if that makes sense
@ yeah he does Doom and Thor.
I can understand what you mean, they sound quite alike.
He always voices him tbh. I love that, and he probably loves it too since he’s usually the go to Wolverine
Yeah the voice actors/actresses are awesome in this game like the names they were able to get to voice. An example being Kiriko's VA from OW is voicing Peni Parker afaik and from what I could hear from Cloak and Dagger, it might be Juno's VA. It's awesome. Interested to see if there is any legal issues or conflict of interest when it comes to their contract or w/e for OW2 since they're gonna be doing VA work for this game.
Can't believe this is flat's first time seeing a stance switch character
Are there any others in the hero shooter genre? I’m a fighting game player so I see many stance characters but I don’t play any other hero shooters unless u count deadlock.
I think deadlock counts as a MOBA and I've seen lots of stance switch characters in MOBAs
@@YUSSUFXVII would almost count Ramattra as a soft stance switch. I’m not sure about the Hero Shooter genre, but there are plenty in MOBAs
@@YUSSUFXVI Stance switching characters are super rare in hero shooters unless it's just a ability to do more damage for a short time like Ramattra.
@@CROSSFADE69 Yeahh never thought of rammatra in that way but I can see it
Flats a marvel guy now love to see it
no hes just being paid for sponsorship..... he legally has to lol
@@ifancy4142 he would literally have to say it is sponsored.
@@ifancy4142the sponsorship is already over yet he still is covering news of the game 🤷
@ifancy4142 "he legally has to" uhhh he also legally would have to disclose that it's a sponsorship which he doesn't. So no sponsor here... LOL
@@ifancy4142 he likes it. whether or not he's sponsored is irrelevant
the best monetization system I've seen, because everything revolves around playing the game and not that the game and collecting are different things.
This is the exact same monetization system as Overwatch, them saying "we will give some currency for free" doesn't mean anything since they don't say how much, Overwatch does give you free currency just by playing but not enough to be able to buy new cosmetics regularly
You will likely get just enough currency to buy epic skins but not enough for legendary
@@ni9274with enough patience you can save for two seasons to buy like 2 skins, but it's better small but constant challenges than a long term challenge for one skin, it's more satisfying. but i know the challenges the devs have and i wish someday it could be like that. there's nothing better than the winton shitpost.
@@ni9274 overwatch doesnt allow you to use their free, earnable currency for shop skins however, only the hero gallery ones. Rivals stated they will be letting you earn free currency to buy paid shop skins, thats the difference between them
How so? Doesn't matter how much you play, you will never buy the premium battle pass with free currency. Moreover, the skins on the premium battle pass might never return, so if you don't buy it and "collect " the items you missed out.
@@CarveronGamer depending if they gives premium currency in the bp there shouldnt be any reason to not buy a bp since it only costs 5 dollars usd
This is how transactions should be I hope the devs of marvel rivals and net ease really know we are loving what they are doing
What I find really funny is just given how Marvel works. This could very easily end up becoming it's own alternate reality storyline for the comics
You can really tell they’re trying to put Overwatch in the ground
Not that hard to do now honestly.
@@karlkhai51 it’s actually very hard, many studios have tried to take down dominating games like COD, destiny and Overwatch and almost all of them have failed and ended up closing down. Sony just tried this with Concord and look at how that went
@@Mccpotinc thats cuz they went woke, i feel like marvels is not only appealing to hero shooter fans but also marvel itself fans which is a big plus
@@reti5828 going “woke” had nothing to do with the failure of the game, it was the game as a whole that didn’t improve on anything Overwatch already had and had bad gameplay so there was no reason for players to switch to Concord. And maybe you don’t understand what woke means but Overwatch is the wokest game around it’s just the most popular in its genre so people ignore it
@@Mccpotinc Not hard to do when you actually make a good game without scummy monetization
This game is such a W.
Good monetization, but it still looks like a mobile game while running significantly worse than OW or pretty much any other esports game does. And it''s developed by a chinese company. But more competition is good and 3rd person is different.
@ idk that shi was looking pretty nice on my set up. Either way I believe the characters will speak for themselves and ppl will play for a while just cause of that. Ik i will
@@Cuthalu Yeah good point, cuz you gotta have at least and decent PC setup to run it smoothly. Two of my backups lag from time to time.
The fact we get monetization like this from Netease of all companies still blows my mind. In terms of aesthetics, that Loki bundle alone has sold me (I'm a *MASSIVE* fan of the show).
Yeah its impressive that netease of all companies did this game.
What’s Netease’s reputation? I assume one of their former or current games has some scummy practices?
This honestly might be one of the best monetization systems I’ve ever seen in a free to play game
How lmao
@@Kabal39name a Better one
@@Kabal39 Even if it isn't in the grand scheme of things - it's pretty good, especially for a F2P title. Whoever is in charge of Rivals marketing has done an amazing job over the year and with hype secured all they needed is to show that monetization is going to be fair to secure a good launch n' players for months ahead. Honestly just smart marketing and a good product all around.
@@Kabal39 fym how? You can get all cosmetics except battlepass free with units, and the battlepasses never expire
@@Kabal39 This monetization system lives rent free in your head lol. It's not bad compared to others and if you don't like it, get this, you don't have to buy anything! Stop commenting on people's praise of the system, apparently, you don't have the brains to understand what a relative comparison is.
Jeff skin looks so good
As much as I like it I'm going to bide my time and wait for Legendary Jeff skin
Netease showing they can do some of best monetization I ever seen in games
30 dollar skins is the best thing you’ve seen?
@@Kabal39Battle pass system is much better and you can earn all skins for free
@@Kabal39 where did you see 30 dollars? lol criticism is fine but don't be disingenuous.
"some of the best monetization I ever seen in game" What ? Their monetization is literally copy pasted OW monetization but you can keep the battlepass longer.
In games like helldiver 2 you can earn everything for free, in Marvel Rivals it will likely be like ovewatch, you get a few premium currency every seasons just enough to buy one epic skin
@@Kabal39 stop deleting my comment
I love being able to complete the battle pass without a time limit. I have health issues that make it impossible for me to play some days which means I can't always complete time-sensitive things. This also means that some of the quirky/fun/relatively rare high-level items from a battle pass don't require no-lifeing the game. There's no real "loss" to the devs for this style either, because you'd still have to buy the next season's battle pass if you want the newer items.
Yeah, honestly, I don't see ANY REASON why the battlepass should be FOMO. Respect the players' time, and the players will respect you. That is the problem with OW, they don't respect the players' time and could get away with it due to being the only 'good' game in its genre. Not anymore. If OW got put into the ground, I'd be happy. OW is too good of a game for the devs to maintain, so just put the dying dog down.
@@Chazza-01 expect it works, just look at something like war thunder and how it handles its events and bps with their paid tiers skips etc. If fomo didnt work, it wouldnt be so widespread in the entire industry.
@@Kaspiderv2 It is widespread in the industry because the gaming industry is full of games which do not respect the players time. Sometimes reputation is better than wringing the player base for every penny
Using MVC2 music on the background is brilliant on the editors part.
My FAVORITE type of fighting is melee!! Im so beyond excited to play the melee characters like Wolverine!
For that price of the battle pass and to be able to progress it on your own time is truly fantastic. The items it gives already look very worth too! Amazing work!
4:27 I feel the exact same way for a lot of the same reasons you said! I also think it just fits with it being a bunch of Marvel superheroes so well, makes it feel even more fun
Same makes it more unique makes it feel like not everyone sitting across the map everyone got no choice but to push bc they melee characters and only can do damage by be up close and personal
Now we gotta put Flats onto Comics Explained and Comicstorian for peak comics
Rip comicstorian
condolences to Sir Comicstorian
condolences to Mr Comicstorian
condolences to Mr Comicstorian
condolences to Mr Comicstorian
5:00 he starts talking about monetization
I hope they add more of the X-Men like Cyclops and Nightcrawler
Dude that Jeff skin is so fucking adorable
Starting a Marvel Rivals video in Overwatch then switching to the actual MR news just gives me the giggles. 😆
I'm surprised but glad Marvel Rivals took lessons from Helldivers 2 and have permanent things but mostly being able to choose what you want instead of being stuck on a linear path! So much better than a lot of games. I can't wait to play this tomorrow night!
18:16 they really turned Cloak into a Zenless Zone Zero Ethereal
Digital Extremes are gonna have a (heh) rival in terms of the most lovable devs xD
But for real, I'm happy they are taking such a customer friendly approach, let they stream and talk to the community from time to time and I see a bright future ahead for the game
I wish we knew a studio name for the people working on this game instead of just "net ease" because they certainly don't have a good monetization reputation. These devs should reap the good reputation
@@Gerwhal agreed, those are *definitely* not the guys that was helping with Diablo Immortal xD
Marvel Rivals is coming out Swinging Hard!!!
I love that if you don't finish the Battle Pass you can still do it in the next Season.
same! i can get burnt out from games bc i feel like i have to grind to finish the pass in time since i work a lot, this is nice
100% agree about it needing to be standard for battle pass lasting, good to see
Dagger is voiced by Xanthe Huynh, and yes, she also voices Juno!!
Moira mains eating good with Scarlet and Cloak&Dagger. Lets goooo
Don't let the Moira mains play cloak and dagger they're never gonna use dagger😂😂
@@GenshinGhostthat’s was good 😂😂
while it's kinds similar to Moira
Cloak is more of disruptions
while Moira is just other than heal is dps ngl :|
If anybody is wondering the song is from Marvel versus Capcom 2 Clock Tower theme
a rule i have when playing games with a battlepass was i wouldnt buy the bp till i completed it cause ive had quite a few bps i bought and never finished, a game that allows u to keep unlocking it even after the season is over seems like a massive win for the company cause it insentivises people like me to purchase the battle pass even before they finish theres no worry about not being able to finish it
Exactly cuz for casual players we rlly don’t have enough time to finish battle passes like fortnite especially if the ‘good’ skin is at the last tier on a timer
Cloak and dagger look like they work like Hel from smite, where one form is a healer/support while the other is dps
man this is NICE, you get everything in a bundle and the battlepass can be done at any time, tbh i hope they do what the finals does and lets you buy anything at anytime regardless if it leaves the store, the finals has the best free to play monetization imo so i hope more companys follow behind them
I really hope that overwatch looks at this and realises that they are in a bit of danger from this. People were already slightly worried about the gameplay alone, but also having this battlepass system really makes me hope they decide to actually do something like this.
(this is definitely a bit of cope for sure but its good to hope once in a while)
Ngl, Wolverine shouldve been a Vanguard instead. We have 18 duelists out of a 33 hero cast. It's more than half the characters in one role.
I think every game like this has that problem because the "dps" role/class is the most popular but yeah I agree they should focus on releasing a few more strategists and vanguards
@@mechaflood2247 from the leaks it seems like the next 4 heroes will be 2 vanguard(one of the Mr.fantastic) and 2 strategists(1 ultron)
bruv Wolverine on Vanguard Really?
do you even know Wolverine
Wolverine is a blender machine( DPS ) in game and comics
Wolverine is the tankiest Marvel character between his adamantium skeleton and his healing factor. Plus because he's an up-close relentless brawler, he fits into the Vanguard role. It'd be a lot like Venom or Thor, not there because they have a bunch of defenses and shields, but because they get up in the enemy's face and take the focus.
@@PWNDotcom3299 juggernaut or colossus will be a better tank than Wolverine
Cuz Wolverine being a tank will not utilize he animalistic agile aspect
Being able to take my time with the BP instead of it feeling like a second job is huge to me.
It is insane that Marvel Rivals monetization model actually sounds like it respects their players time and money. I'm a grown man who is about to cry with how beautiful that sounds to me as a free-to-play player.
exactly, free epic skins for f2p’s too, and not only that, these devs were the people that made the collector stuff in msw making them like 200$ 💀 Im glad they’re reaching their deserved progress for there time and hard work in this game
You know what? They convinced me, I'm pre-downloading Marvel Rivals.
So much BIG news here ! Love to see it 👏
Wolverine jumps on hulks arm and gets thrown
Flats: was that the team up with Hulk?
bruh, get a load of this guy. he always gets me with these unaware moments 😅
Fiiiiiiine! Im sold. I'll be playing the game when I can get it. Much better battlepass system
13:10 👏👏👏👏👏 legitimately an amazing addition.
100% agree with loving the melee characters. Its such a fun archetype and there seem to be a bunch of styles too.
Im so happy for this game honestly, Its Looking Amazing, Cannot wait for this
A worry about the battle pass that I have is if working on a previous pass comes at the cost of rewards on a current pass. Like if I spend 20 tokens on the previous pass I can't get a part of the current pass because I don't have the ability to gain more tokens.
I hope you can always earn the chrono tokens because its sort of a "reward" for playing after finishing the battle pass which could let you get a head start on the next one
So if it works like helldivers battlepasses, you have multiple pages of items per pass and you can buy things on the first page in any order and once you have spent enough coins unlocking stuff on the first page you get access to the second... then once you've spent enough between the first 2 pages to pass the threshold the next page unlocks. It lets them still stack the last pages with potentially the most exciting things... but you as a player have some control over the order you unlock things since you can skip things you care less about and only grab the stuff you care most about on each page as it unlocks. It feels a bit more like meeting the player halfway than a linear battlepass.
I don't like that Wolverine is a dps and not a tank, because he is literally a tank in the comics. That's why he dresses in the bright yellow suit, to attract attention so enemies shoot at him.
3:45 he ate two of the biggest ults in the game like it’s nothing. He’s still a tank.
@ He’s tanky for sure but not a tank
I feel like they're getting EVERYTHING right with Marvel Rivals. They clearly put a lot of thought into their release strategy, because one, early december is a perfect time to release a game, and two, the insane number of heroes they're giving us right away. And to top that off, they've made a point of having extremely consumer-friendly monetization and exciting cosmetics. I sincerely hope that this game never loses this level of quality.
That Mantis from the battle pass looks better than most OW2 mythics, ngl. Especially since it comes with fitting emotes and stuff.
9:30 the MCU TAX
@4:30 i was already hyped with the reveal of Magik during the first initial reveal, seeing all the other melee characters coming out after her has me more hyped.
There are also a hero progression system where you get free cosmetics like new KO icons.
Words cannot describe how excited I am to play this. Literally everything they’ve announced is EXACTLY what everyone says Overwatch does poorly. I really hope the competition gives Blizzard a bit of a wake up call.
With the sheer number of melee characters, high mobility, especially vertical mobility, and vertical dynamics to all the maps this game really feels like a cross between an arena hero shooter like its trying to be and a platform fighter and im so here for it
Overwatch better start taking notes now that they have competition. They’ve been too comfortable for too long
Cloak and Dagger seems to be similar to Hel's mechanics in smite where you change between light and dark and have different abilities in it. Seems nice!
Flats, am just gonna help you here with MCU and the normal stuff. The MCU is the movies and series, MCU stands for Marvel Cinematic Universe, and the normal is the comic books and all other content marvel has released
So glad someone else shares my notion on melee characters and how the only form of skill expression isnt a character with projectile or hitscan coded ranged weapons..
Love the X they made with the Fast Ball Special. He's not an X-Men he's THE XMAN
I’m 34 now buts it’s crazy how far free to play games have come. When I was a kid it was basically cheap flash games on ebaum’s world. Kids these days are eating good. Good quality games without spending a dime.
They gave Wolverine his old ability to super heat his claws!? That's awesome!!
letting you complete the battlepass at any time justifies it for me to dump a lot more money than originally planned
huge W
Ya, they have definitely won me over. The battlepass system, the monetization, and all heroes for free is just amazing. Definitely giving this game a shot!
No one remembers that the catch with the halo infinite battle pass was that you could ONLY progress it by completing challenges. The backlash was extreme and it changed later on where you progress by just playing.
This is the competition that Overwatch needed. Rivals is about to pop off
I was a DPS Doom player so I'm super excited for a game that embraces the malay combat.
Actually peak having you not have to rush to get everything on the Battle pass since you can always get it without worrying about having everything on the battle pass gone
Need more Rivals content!
12:45 ooooooooohh my god its like war robots frontiers. Best battlepass i've ever seen
So the pass is like Helldiver2, that you can redeem any item in any season after.
The thing is, Super Credit in HD2 can be found in the map by playing normal games, but they said Chrono tokens can be earned by doing tasks and events.
The important question here would be, even though the pass will never expire, do these tasks and events only go active after we buy a pass, and do they expire after the season ends?
the anti-FOMO bit of not having a time limit on the battle pass is enough to get my support and $5 (10 later ofc)
Still wish the EU or someone would pass laws requiring all paid content/battlepass access to not have time limits and outlaw FOMO marketing BS...
I love battlepasses that you can finish whenever like the ones in Deeprock and Decieve Inc. since I don't have enough time to game as much to unlock the skins I want.
Honestly was not expecting them to allow people to continue Battle passes after the seasons are over, but I'm pleasantly surprised. I think this is a very fair model as well. I think letting you continue them as long as you pay is a pretty fair way to balance it. If I'm not feeling the game for a while but like the costumes I can just hop on, buy it and be done for a while
MASSIVE??!!!??
If anything the battle pass for rivals maybe similar to the ones in Hell Divers 2. HD2 uses Medals as currency and you can buy what you want and not everything in each section.
Theory (Guys like this later if it's true), but I feel like the S1-onwards battle passes should be able to afford the next battle pass, but I wouldn't be shocked if the S0 couldn't afford the next one, since it's half as long. Part of this is my S1 battle pass theory. Season 0 is gonna draw in a lot of players, but if the game has balance issues or anything, it may die off a little bit by the time Season 1 launches in a month. Season 1: Deadpool. Deadpool will absolutely bring in tons of players, a Deadpool-themed battle pass could do incredibly well too. It's practically free money. Imagine Jeff in a Dogpool outfit, or a legendary Gwenpool skin for Deadpool himself. He's the obvious money-maker choice for a big start to their standard battle passes.
Steve Blum on Wolverine once again 😤😤 life is good
I can't wait for Deadpool!
Not having to worry about finishing the BP is HUGE
the battle pass sounds like mythic shop in overwatch in the concept the way you can get stuff even if you didn't finish it the previous season
I wonder if they’ll do different versions of characters like for example making some characters be a vanguard or a duelist or a support. Kind of like marvel vs capcom. You could do different version of characters or a different loadout essentially. That would be interesting on the opposing team’s perspective you wouldn’t know if their spidey is a duelist or a support or whatever.
This getting recommended after ow season 14 trailer reaction is crazy
Cloak n Dagger looks so cool
Having battle passes be permanent is so good. I feel like timed passes makes people less likely to buy them. Like for me if I see a pass that I like but i know I won’t be able to play much that season for some reason I won’t buy the pass, but if I can earn it whenever then I’m more likely to buy a pass and therefore play the game more.
I wish all games with passes did this!
5$ for season 0 pass?! 😲 I'm not complaining
Yo good choice from the editor to use Marvel Vs Capcom 2 music for this lol
I love cloak and dagger that looks so fun
God I wish everything wasn’t already moving away from ps4 era I still haven’t gotten a 5 or a PC
allowing you to go back to old battlepasses also negates account selling which is a huge W
Waiting 2 weeks from now for Flats inevitable "Marvel Rivals Duelist Problem" video :P
This is gonna be like if battleborn and over watch had a child and I’m so pumped.
I. CAN'T. WAIT
Good monetization is the confirmation that this game will be great, I’m excited
I remember when Blizzard announced that they were doing a mobile Diablo with NetEase and people lost their minds. Now NetEase is blowing people's minds with Marvel Rivals. Not that people were wrong on their Diablo Immortal take (vastly different monetization for one,) but it's a great turn around for NetEase to be redefining people's expectations on what kind of quality they might get with a free to play licensed game. NetEase is going from a disappointing announcement at a Blizzcon, to producing a game that might well steal a ton of players from a top Blizzard game.