@mrcynthiag mrcynthiag all the money from her book goes to mental health studies so how is she making money of this? She is just trying to figure out what happend and she's helping others too. Just leave this poor woman alone.
Psychosis can be caused by a lot of things. She reverses cause and effect and makes up that brain disease is the cause of itself. And that love does not heal. She makes up that the power of love is a lie but that communication, which is how we actually love, matters. This woman speaks in empty rhetoric and mind numbing cliches. Functional families share who they are with one another and understand we all need to be seen, felt and heard. It is amazing he never shared the truth with his family not once. This is amazing. This woman is not amazing. Very limited. Suicidal people often have families they can share their reality with. Dysfunctional families often have rigid unspoken rules and rigid roles and a chief control freak who controls communication. They tend to think in terms of all or nothing thinking and don’t talk about the abuse. This mother has not reckoned with crap.
Sue seems like an intellectual, reflective, sophisticated and decent person. This proves that not all individuals who've committed heinous crimes, have had a terrible upbringing.
@Louis Ross Yes, Dylan was a teenager but he was not 5 years old, by 17 you know right from wrong, he PLANED the shootings so I do not know how memtialy ill he was, I am not sure you can plan something so horrable and not be aware it s wrong, not sure I buy that, but as a mother I would like to think it if it had been my child
@@robincoffman6723 I’m wondering if you just listened to everything that Sue Klebold said. She knows that he was mentally ill. I have listened to her speak on many occasions. I think she has been very brave and selfless through the numerous talks she has given to try and educate people about mental illness, suicide and mass shooting. She could have moved and faded into the background. She never sprawls of her husband or her other son, giving them privacy. She has chosen to share her very personal life to help others. For this, Sue Klebold has my utmost respect.
the amount of pain this woman had to go through is unbelievable. It's her child who she gave birth to, raised and loved unconditionally. Her sweet little boy turned out to be a monster who destroyed so many lives. Dylan left such a big burden for her to carry for the rest of her life. Unbelievable how she managed to stay strong and be so reflected about this absolutely horrible topic.
I wish nothing but the best to Sue Klebold. She had the courage and strength to come out and speak about her son. I feel very sorry for the people who have commented negatively about this poor mother who lost her son in the most appalling manner. She has suffered enough without faceless people hiding behind their keyboards passing judgement on her and her family.
So crazy that he went to prom just 3 days before the massacre happened. Which means, he went to prom, knowing he was gonna be killing people that were there. Maybe even his date, and the friends they went with. From what I've gathered, they were gonna try blowing up the cafeteria, so the library would fall on top of all the kids IN the cafeteria, knowing some of their friends were gonna be in there. So they didn't care if people they were good friends with were gonna be killed.
Nope they didn't care at all. They even say in their final video to some of their friends "If you guys survive..." showing the thought was in their mind they'd kill their friends. They didn't care.
people mention the reason as being bullying but all of their victims were nerdy kids and sophomores, basically people that had done nothing to them, yet during the attack they let a jock run away. they were idiots.
ot is and as wrong as it is we do not view the deaths of cold blooded killer as....tragic, but the victims deaths are sad , tragic and senseless , Maybe it s a defect in thinking but it is how most think
I think to so many they feel she's a idiot for not noticing especially when people said the guns were lieing in the open but I just always hear Eric held onto them. But in in my opinion I feel she trusted him enough as her son. She asked but dragging it out of him was most likely something she didn't wanna do. But I don't blame her because no one just suddenly kills, kinda like "my kid would never". But sadly he did
Not excusing Dylan at all, but I’m definitely seeing a huge influence that Eric had on Dylan. Eric definitely added more fuel to his mental health and motivated a form of action. I just wish they were not friends at all. This is why it’s so important to make sure you choose your friends and close ones very wisely.
The 90’s were different, kids had a lot more freedom then they do now. Parents trusted the kids more and generally that was fine. Sue had a tragic case of the world starting to change and none of the parents were prepared for it. They had not altered the parenting to the new world. Sadly he slipped through the cracks, and she missed a lot that MANY 90’s parents would have also missed. For the most part I think parents try to be more involved these days. I feel horrible for her, she clearly cared so much, just missed things we all could have missed back then.
The journals the two boys kept were completely different in their tone and showed a drastic difference between both boys and a destructive dynamic. Eric Harris’s journal was all violence, swatstikas, weapons, along with who he hated and why he thought they deserved to die. Dylan on the other hand drew hearts and spent a great deal of time ruminating over and lamenting his inability to find true love. What was unnerving about this was that Dylan and Eric weren’t society’s rejects, poor students, or the children of criminals or broken homes. Both these boys came from middle class gentrified families Susan Klebold is unique in the fact that she fully accepts Dylan’s crimes and legacy. She doesn’t engage in victim blaming or avoidance or evasion of what Dylan did. She openly admits her son was a mass murderer because he was seriously ill and they failed to recognize it and get him proper help
Dylan is often pictured as the poor depressed boy who just wanted to commit suicide and was "dragged" into all of this but that's not true. Just like Eric he was a person full of hate and pure evil. Going trough his diaries the day before the planned bombing/shooting he even wrote "have fun". Absolutely disgusting.
I honestly feel for this woman just as much as I feel for the rest of the victims. She had absolutely no idea what was going on with her son, and not because of lack of trying. She would have done all she could if she had even the slightest clue of what was going on in her son's head. For the rest of her life she has to suffer because of the actions of Dylan and Eric. Breaks my heart. I hope that one day she will know peace and that she won't blame herself for this tragedy. There is nobody to blame but Eric and Dylan
I have suicidal thoughts AND homicidal thoughts. Its more common among suicidal people than you think. Its just even harder to talk about and get help for. I tried to talk to my therapist about it and they instantly just think you are a threat or they have to warn others. Ok I get you need to be caucious BUT I cant talk and get help for it if you may call the police cause you assume WANTING and WILL DO are the same. Unfortunately most so called professionals dont know how to deal with.
I honestly think that in this world , everybody have suicidal thoughts at some point in their life. Some are strong but the weak ones tend to harm people around them. As you said when you talk to your therapist about it they instantly think that you're a threat instead of helping you and that's just sad.
kane Fatima I think there is a difference between depression that causes suicidal thinking, and a mentally healthy person going through a hard time and thinking that they are incredibly overwhelmed. And certainly one thought about "Well, what would happen if I'd just die now" isn't the same thing either. I don't think that everyone is suicidal at some point in their life, not everyone is mentally ill. Depression is an illness and there is still not enough help out there for the people who actually suffer from it.
So ein Stein Very well said. The thought of dying alone would instantly lead to a horrible feeling for a healthy person, while a mentally deseased person would feel relief from all the sadness from the thought of dying alone. I think when people say they have thought about suicide, the general idea of suicide or the thought of yourself dying but rather as a scenario is ment and not really the thought of dying to be freed from whatever worries you. I hope you get my point.
Fabio Matu Maybe it's because of a language barrier (I'm German), but I never heard someone saying they thought about suicide when they actually thought about the scenario of being dead. I think suicide is a term that is used in a much more alarming context, especially a context of depression, a very dark time in someone's life or a traumatic event. Healthy people who are going through a hard time and are overwhelmed and exhausted. Maybe at some point they think: "oh some people commit suicide" But every healthy Person immediately rejects this thought. I wouldn't consider that suicidal. People who seriously think of suicide as an option worth considering, that is what I'd call suicidal. It's dangerous to generalize something as awful as suicide and depression. It's incredibly important to differentiate when you talk about it.
So ein Stein Na gut, das macht es etwas einfacher :D Was ich meinte ist genau das. Dass psychisch gesunde Leute eventuell während einer sehr schlechten Phase zwar über Selbstmord nachdenken, jedoch nie ernsthaft, sondern eher als Szenario; im Sinne von :"Naja, wer würde mich schon vermissen?" oder "Ich müsste mich nie wieder mit meinem Alltag rumschlagen". Ich weiß nicht, ob wirklich gut rüberkommt, was ich meine, aber im Endeffekt ist es einfach nur folgender Unterschied: eine psychisch gesunde Person denkt niemals ernsthaft darüber nach, sich umzubringen, aus welchem Grund auch immer - es ist nur ein Fantasiespiel - während eine suizidale Person den Selbstmord ernsthaft in Betracht zieht, als eine bessere Alternative zum eigenen Leben. Der Alltag wird so unerträglich, dass dieser Person die Möglichkeit des Nicht-Denken-Müssens als bessere Alternative erscheint. Ich denke, dass wir uns da ziemlich einig sind. Mich interessiert in letzter Zeit aber viel eher die Frage, wie Depressionen und Suizidalität zu Mordgedanken werden. Offensichtlich gibt es da einen starken Zusammenhang, denn 2% aller Selbstmorde in den USA werden zusammen mit Morden begangen.
If there's any kids out there thinking of a shooting or violent crime just think about the effect it will have on your family and ppl that loved you ...if you need to speak with someone immediately call a friend or trusted family member and seek help ..you will either be killed or in jail for the rest of your life ..please get help there's no reason to hurt innocent ppl and the pain you would cause the victims families. 🙏
I was a kid susan when I heard about this maybe 14. Our high school was the next one to almost get shot up in September of 1999. In plano texas. I don't know if you ever heard about it but there were a lot of schools that can relate to your loss ma'm. . Don't worry, we all love you and god will forgive you for your mistakes. We all make them. As long as you have remorse, and you keep your faith, god will always love his children. And I know what it's like to be in your sons shoes. I almost went to prison myself, had I not had that wake up call. I would be dead today. So keep up your strong words of wisdom, the only ones that hate you, really just hate themselves.
It was a pleasure to listen to Mrs Klebold she had lot to share with us, only wish we could hear from the Harris's, it would put more of us at ease, and understanding what really was going on in their sons lives.
The Harris's trashed their son's cross the same night. Sue praises her son. Sue is just like Eric. In this interview, all she wanted to do was to out this chomo.
@@orphanrafferty1955 they didnt trash their own son's cross. Daniel Rohrbaugh(sp)s father did that because he didn't feel that victims and killers should be memorialized in the same place. The Harrises have always been very private. I'm sure they suffered and mourned his death just as much as Sue mourned Dylan's.
@@daily_gamer6080 as of now, judging by your said conclusion: 1) i don't believe you have killed any psychopaths. 2) i believe you are dumb enough to ask Joyce Rafferty to babysit your own kids.
All that stress she endured in the last 20+ years caused her hair to turn gray. I blame Dylan. Sue did everything right to raise him, but Dylan went down a dark satanic path.
As a mature gentleman myself, it is very important for every institutions especially our schools to have anti-bullying programs, loneliness awareness, mental illness awareness, strong security, & weapon control to try to make the world a kinder safer place for our society period. I am not saying we should be paranoid what I really mean is that we should be very cautious of any boy, any girl, any man, and any woman who possesses any dangerous weapons because it is a matter of time before they start going on a deadly rampage which they will end up harming & murdering innocent people. Also they will harm themselves which would lead them to commit suicide. That is why it is very important to connect with people who are struggling with any problems in their life both mentally & physically. To all my fellow human brothers and sisters around the world stay safe & always remember be genuine & take care of one another.
Nobody knows how this woman was hated and blamed except her. She seems very well spoken and nice. Its too easy to blame parents all the time. I think many people would want her to be their mom, included me. Praying for her strength, and of course for the families of the victims.
It’s easy to blame the parents because that’s usually where the core issues come from, she did nothing but raise a monster and she turned her head when it mattered.
I had no idea she wrote a book and started talking after all these years. After seeing the Diane interviewe on ABC News I was glad she is able to live better. I knew she had gotten divorced and had issues with the older son being on drugs around the time Dylan withdrew. Hope they move past it eventually.
How do you know the older son is on drugs? I've always wondered what became of Eric and Dylans brothers, if they were ever able to have a normal life after this.
The shooting took place three weeks after I arrived in the US for a long term assignment, and I clearly remember this like yesterday. People in the office were talking about this everyday, and I even got calls from family and friends to see if I was ok. My heart goes out to the victims whose lives were cut short and their family. Also, kudos to Sue who took the courage to speak in public about her son. It must be an extremely painful jouney to be exposed and judged by bystanders!
Hi. I am coming from a place of love for this grieving mother. I have no idea what it must feel like to be in her shoes. How much do we know of Dahmer's mom or Hitler's mom, right?!? I can say, however, that this kid raised in upper middle class Colorado must have experienced some sort of trauma. Trauma is the leading cause for pathology. I am a Licensed Therapist, and my clients are not all necessarily pathological. The one factor in those that are, however, is trauma. Mental, physical and psychological trauma cause extreme pathology in the majority of cases. Cutting is an indicator of self injurious behavior that can also indicate homicidal tendencies. There is quite a fine line between suicidal and homicidal tendencies if you ask a forensic Psychologist or Psychiatrist. The fact that neither family group picked up on their children's behavior or impulses is alarming, frankly.
I commend Sue for coming forward about her son and taking responsibility for her child's actions. No parent wants their child to end up this way. Eric's parents should come forward and accept responsibility.
Eric’s parents coming forward and speaking or accepting responsibility would be meaningless to all those who were affected by the tragedy, they are doing the right thing by staying away and quiet.
@@nomashninaidoo7923 Eric was on medication and saw a therapist, his parents knew about his mental health problems and I'm sure in their perspective he was getting help. Just because they don't want to talk about Eric doesn't mean they didn't experience the exact same things Sue did.
@haiku spirit her book is called A Mother's Reckoning Living in the Aftermath of Tragedy. You can buy it from Amazon and eBay. I bought my copy off eBay and I've read it twice. It really is a good read and it made me cry both times. She is a sweet lady and I'd like to hug her if I could
+Overcas Im not from America but thanks. Unfortunately talking dont work for me. Talking is just... well talking. It does nothing to relieve my rage. Especially if the cause is chemical or hormonal (I dont know what causes it for me). I do have reasons why I feel rage but its overly intense and taking my anger out on something doesnt relieve me. I feel taking it out on WHO im enraged by and thats people. It also makes me lack empathy and I get verbally abusive.
I know this lady been threw so much since her own child was involved in something tragic like this rest in peace too all the innocent people was killed
You can be the kindest parent in the world. But kindness doesn't always equate into preceptive or effective. I basically feel a stronger and or more involved parent could have had a very good chance of preventing this tragedy.
And the fact that he had robbed a car full of electronics should have been a dead giveaway. If my son robbed someone I would be making sure to keep my eye on him and put him in therapy regardless of what he says.
I understand she wants to think of her son as being as innocent as she raised him, but Dylan was not as innocent as his mother wants us to think. Whether he was truly bullied or not, it's very clear Dylan did his own bullying - killing students & a teacher, & injuring many other students for the rest of their lives, that's not the sign of a victim, that's a KILLER. If he truly suffered from depression, he found his outlet. I resent that his mother here "paints" a picture of her son that he was some harmless & innocent kid, every parent wants to think of their children as being innocent. He had friends, a girlfriend, a family that loved him, he even went to his prom, these are important & basic necessities a lot of us don't have & we still turn out decent, good people. Reading his journals, looking at his drawn pictures, his videos; Dylan Klebold suffered more than depression, he suffered from hate. Just because people suffer from a mental or emotional disorder, doesn't give them an excuse to kill people. Eric & Dylan didn't decide in 24 hours they were going to kill people, this was a ONE YEAR PLAN with a lot of preparations. They knew what they were doing, depression or not; whether they were bullied or not, they were KILLERS, that's worse.
Yes 💯💯💯 I completely agree with you!! I been saying that for such a long time!! I can see past her bullshit! She is riding on this mental health issue to paint Dylan as an innocent rather than a murderer!
Dylan had friends but was not popular and did not have a girlfriend. Also Sue clearly said she doesn't excuse his actions she just wants to spread awareness and she's allowed to grieve like any other parent
Rose Karina oh yes, spread awareness for Dylan’s mental illness after he killed 13ppl and wounded many others 😑 Seems she wants to use Dylan’s mental illness so ppl will have an understanding and gain sympathy for his murderous actions 😑 NO one is stopping her from grieving for her son. Just as her son did NOT stop himself from committing murder
Your comment is extremely ignorant where mental health issues are concerned. Sue Klebold is not excusing her son’s actions. Maybe if you showed some compassion towards this mother who is grieving her dead son regardless of his actions before he died. And she doesn’t paint him as a innocent bystander.
Dylan's parents never believed in disciplining children with spanking, which is probably the only thing they did wrong in bringing him up. But there are also kids who get whipped every day for no reason and they also turn suicidal and turn to crime.
Such disgusting interview... More a book tour rather toadmit her son threatened to several of his friends... Brought to her & her busband's attention... She'z primiging her book... She is still the sickening textbook example of a narsisistic mother... Finally, parents who ignor warnings are being prosecuted. Even the judge in their vehicle vandalism/trial of the mother's & other family members not attending their sons' trial. As for partners in crime, concerned parents don't allow their kids to hang to hang-out with & continue activities with criminals because friends don't get friends in trouble. "We asked... He said, 'Everthings fine...'"
The mother seems very caught up with the poor state of her insane murderuous son. Her son was a piece of shit that she shat out to kill innocent people. Period.
because a lot view Eric as the complete driving force, not Dylan. Obviously he is still a murderer but it's very questionable if without Eric if he would have had it inside him to hurt people or just himself. Just answering your question obviously not defending two mass murderers lol.
Always keep in mind killers have a choice and enough time to change their minds after thinking about all the destruction and pain they will cause. So a lot of times killing is done by a made up mind, no if ands are buts! Also if my child had did this horrendous act I would constantly be thinking about all the lives my son destroyed and not "woe is my son" and I miss him. This is all she says at all the speeches she's done. Plus she said she didn't believe in evil, wow. To boot she keep acting like he committed suicide over nothing but it was really over selfishness!
Exactly. Narcissistic Sue Klebold is doing it for the money. As long as Sue Klebold can keep blaming everyone else and protray her son Dylan and herself as victims and also claim she is doing it all under the guise of mental illness & suicide awareness then she can keep milking that cash cow for more money. That’s what it is all about, money. Sue Klebold found a way to scam sleeping sheep for money out of a horrible and sad tragedy her son committed all because he sought revenge for not getting what he wanted. For being rejected when he thought he was entitled and led to believe by his mother that he lived in a world where everyone loved & accepted him. Sue built a false reality for her son. Sue Klebold’s other son Byron was a hardcore drug addiict throughout his entire teenage yesrs-all the way through adulthood. Absolutely pathetic.
Pamela Bennett You’re obviously not a parent or you would know that a parent loves their child NO MATTER WHAT. A parent’s loyalty is to their child first, no one else. Dylan will always be her baby and she will always love him.
Good or bad he was still her son so of course she misses him that s natural . As to the rest I never read her book as I dont care for the killers stories no matter the crime. I do read books on the VICTIMS and end up crying my eyes out
@@roksolana-zb4huYeah I’m sure she loved him when she abandoned him all summer to work all day. I’m sure she loved him so much when she neglected his mental health.
She has been asked before. She basically nicely said that she doesn't disagree with the mindset of doing background checks, but it's not an issue she is going to get behind as she doesn't believe it's a helpful area of focus. And she doesn't like guns one bit. It's honestly probably because one of the guns the boys purchased was not purchased legally, they'd have been able to legally get them on their own once they turned 18 as they didn't have a record that would have prevented it, and she's spent so many years studying this stuff that she probably knows all about other weapons that have been used in massacres when they couldn't get a gun (I.E. knives and arson). In other words; no background check would have stopped these two so it would be pointless for her to fight for that as Columbine still would have happened if background checks would have been required. If she had recognized her son being suicidal on the other hand, that would have prevented it so that's her fight.
she said she didn't no nothing was wrong.. my foot.. her son was an alcoholic his nickname vokda was a miss-spelling for his favourite alcohol drink. ... she knew she just in denial still
exactly. they also dragged a black kid out from hiding under a library table, called him racial names and shot him. yeah im sure she had no idea he was racist too 👌 they learn it somewhere.
And don’t forget that her other son was a drug addict at just 14 and her husband was also an alcoholic up until there divorce when he recovered. I wonder why everyone around this woman had mental health issues.
I definitely believe that she is sincere. I sincerely feel for her. On the flip side however I can't imagine the terror the victims went through before being slaughtered just like Isaiah pleading for his mom. There families left with unimaginable pain especially Daniels father. Sure she's very articulate and sincere but maybe since she is highly intelligent she and her husband should have known when the next door neighbor heard them breaking glass sounds coming from Eric's garage. Come on. These parents should have been put in Colorado State Prison for parental neglect and involuntary manslaughter. I remember that horrific day and how Sheriff Stone along with his investigators found pipe bombs and gunshot ammo in the boys room. Thank you for reading. Respectfully.
@@momof3m965Yes but how can this neglectful mother be fooled? He had robbed a car full of electronics she should have kept her eye on him and put him in therapy regardless of what he said.
She stayed out of public eye because she was a self acclaimed activist. Most activists just simply want to be seen and heard, its more attention than anything. Now, she uses this to get it, as well as to make money off of it with books and interviews, since she left her husband in 2014 and never did really have a real job. She needed to stay out of the public eye....
She's lived a lifetime worth of grief. I feel for her and wish her much healing and peace.
18 years so far... Some of the victims were 18 :'(
not long enough
@mrcynthiag mrcynthiag all the money from her book goes to mental health studies so how is she making money of this? She is just trying to figure out what happend and she's helping others too. Just leave this poor woman alone.
Alexandra Axelsson you are a liar. There is no record of that. You dumbasses are blind sheep believing any garbage people feeds you
Psychosis can be caused by a lot of things. She reverses cause and effect and makes up that brain disease is the cause of itself. And that love does not heal. She makes up that the power of love is a lie but that communication, which is how we actually love, matters. This woman speaks in empty rhetoric and mind numbing cliches. Functional families share who they are with one another and understand we all need to be seen, felt and heard. It is amazing he never shared the truth with his family not once. This is amazing. This woman is not amazing. Very limited. Suicidal people often have families they can share their reality with. Dysfunctional families often have rigid unspoken rules and rigid roles and a chief control freak who controls communication. They tend to think in terms of all or nothing thinking and don’t talk about the abuse. This mother has not reckoned with crap.
Sue seems like an intellectual, reflective, sophisticated and decent person. This proves that not all individuals who've committed heinous crimes, have had a terrible upbringing.
@Louis Ross Yes, Dylan was a teenager but he was not 5 years old, by 17 you know right from wrong, he PLANED the shootings so I do not know how memtialy ill he was, I am not sure you can plan something so horrable and not be aware it s wrong, not sure I buy that, but as a mother I would like to think it if it had been my child
@@robincoffman6723 he had anger. He knew it was wrong. And he didn’t want to live anymore.
@@robincoffman6723 I’m wondering if you just listened to everything that Sue Klebold said. She knows that he was mentally ill. I have listened to her speak on many occasions. I think she has been very brave and selfless through the numerous talks she has given to try and educate people about mental illness, suicide and mass shooting. She could have moved and faded into the background. She never sprawls of her husband or her other son, giving them privacy. She has chosen to share her very personal life to help others. For this, Sue Klebold has my utmost respect.
the amount of pain this woman had to go through is unbelievable. It's her child who she gave birth to, raised and loved unconditionally. Her sweet little boy turned out to be a monster who destroyed so many lives. Dylan left such a big burden for her to carry for the rest of her life. Unbelievable how she managed to stay strong and be so reflected about this absolutely horrible topic.
Sue is a great woman. Very well spoken.
Can you imagine how hard her life was after that in that small town ...a town where everyone hated her
@@Nimrodbodeinejr I read her book. She went through pure hell. Her son destroyed her life.
I have so much respect for Sue for opening up and being candid about the whole situation, she didn't deserve the hate that she and her husband got.
Yes 😮😢 she angel to confront her son mental illness sadness he depression
My heart goes out to this great mother she and the victims are in my prayers
I wish nothing but the best to Sue Klebold. She had the courage and strength to come out and speak about her son. I feel very sorry for the people who have commented negatively about this poor mother who lost her son in the most appalling manner. She has suffered enough without faceless people hiding behind their keyboards passing judgement on her and her family.
So crazy that he went to prom just 3 days before the massacre happened. Which means, he went to prom, knowing he was gonna be killing people that were there. Maybe even his date, and the friends they went with. From what I've gathered, they were gonna try blowing up the cafeteria, so the library would fall on top of all the kids IN the cafeteria, knowing some of their friends were gonna be in there. So they didn't care if people they were good friends with were gonna be killed.
Nope they didn't care at all. They even say in their final video to some of their friends "If you guys survive..." showing the thought was in their mind they'd kill their friends. They didn't care.
people mention the reason as being bullying but all of their victims were nerdy kids and sophomores, basically people that had done nothing to them, yet during the attack they let a jock run away. they were idiots.
@@卩丨尺卂卂-d8u John savage wasn’t a jock
@@bobafett3352 who's talking about john savage? I'm talking about the one jock they let go. revisit the case, please.
@@卩丨尺卂卂-d8u oh I’m sorry cause I heard so many times about John savage running away. My fault
People seem to forget that the killers have grieving families as well...as much as those who were murdered. Two way street.
Chomo-lover
ot is and as wrong as it is we do not view the deaths of cold blooded killer as....tragic, but the victims deaths are sad , tragic and senseless , Maybe it s a defect in thinking but it is how most think
I think to so many they feel she's a idiot for not noticing especially when people said the guns were lieing in the open but I just always hear Eric held onto them. But in in my opinion I feel she trusted him enough as her son. She asked but dragging it out of him was most likely something she didn't wanna do. But I don't blame her because no one just suddenly kills, kinda like "my kid would never". But sadly he did
Not excusing Dylan at all, but I’m definitely seeing a huge influence that Eric had on Dylan. Eric definitely added more fuel to his mental health and motivated a form of action. I just wish they were not friends at all.
This is why it’s so important to make sure you choose your friends and close ones very wisely.
Oh yes 👍
The 90’s were different, kids had a lot more freedom then they do now. Parents trusted the kids more and generally that was fine. Sue had a tragic case of the world starting to change and none of the parents were prepared for it. They had not altered the parenting to the new world. Sadly he slipped through the cracks, and she missed a lot that MANY 90’s parents would have also missed. For the most part I think parents try to be more involved these days.
I feel horrible for her, she clearly cared so much, just missed things we all could have missed back then.
Very well spoken!
alot of people dont know that before 9/11 in 2001 ; the world was ALOT more of a a layed back place before those attacks
The journals the two boys kept were completely different in their tone and showed a drastic difference between both boys and a destructive dynamic. Eric Harris’s journal was all violence, swatstikas, weapons, along with who he hated and why he thought they deserved to die. Dylan on the other hand drew hearts and spent a great deal of time ruminating over and lamenting his inability to find true love.
What was unnerving about this was that Dylan and Eric weren’t society’s rejects, poor students, or the children of criminals or broken homes. Both these boys came from middle class gentrified families
Susan Klebold is unique in the fact that she fully accepts Dylan’s crimes and legacy. She doesn’t engage in victim blaming or avoidance or evasion of what Dylan did. She openly admits her son was a mass murderer because he was seriously ill and they failed to recognize it and get him proper help
Miss Moxie GTFO out with that Dave Cullen bullshit 🙄
Dylan is often pictured as the poor depressed boy who just wanted to commit suicide and was "dragged" into all of this but that's not true. Just like Eric he was a person full of hate and pure evil. Going trough his diaries the day before the planned bombing/shooting he even wrote "have fun". Absolutely disgusting.
@@sisterstina3700 Eric wouldve been a serial killer if it werent for dylan, dylan was the one who brought up a school bombing/shooting.
Yes big difference in thinking 🤔 both severely depressed
Brave woman she has changed a lot of my thoughts.
Means she's grooming you, careful, this is solely to out her and wake Littleton up.
She's just like Eric.
@@orphanrafferty1955 I agree. Be careful.
Yes gud 😄😇🧔she shows how u kids hide they true pain n act out 💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💖she angel victim n I'm sure miss her son tremendously
I honestly feel for this woman just as much as I feel for the rest of the victims. She had absolutely no idea what was going on with her son, and not because of lack of trying. She would have done all she could if she had even the slightest clue of what was going on in her son's head. For the rest of her life she has to suffer because of the actions of Dylan and Eric. Breaks my heart. I hope that one day she will know peace and that she won't blame herself for this tragedy. There is nobody to blame but Eric and Dylan
Thank you for the research and work you have done, Sue! May the families affected by this tragedy hold on to God's strength and love!
It's not your fault. I love you.
I don't blame you Sue. I'm sorry that this happened to you and I'm glad that you've reached out to the people who Dylan affected.
I have suicidal thoughts AND homicidal thoughts. Its more common among suicidal people than you think. Its just even harder to talk about and get help for. I tried to talk to my therapist about it and they instantly just think you are a threat or they have to warn others. Ok I get you need to be caucious BUT I cant talk and get help for it if you may call the police cause you assume WANTING and WILL DO are the same. Unfortunately most so called professionals dont know how to deal with.
I honestly think that in this world , everybody have suicidal thoughts at some point in their life. Some are strong but the weak ones tend to harm people around them. As you said when you talk to your therapist about it they instantly think that you're a threat instead of helping you and that's just sad.
kane Fatima I think there is a difference between depression that causes suicidal thinking, and a mentally healthy person going through a hard time and thinking that they are incredibly overwhelmed. And certainly one thought about "Well, what would happen if I'd just die now" isn't the same thing either.
I don't think that everyone is suicidal at some point in their life, not everyone is mentally ill.
Depression is an illness and there is still not enough help out there for the people who actually suffer from it.
So ein Stein Very well said. The thought of dying alone would instantly lead to a horrible feeling for a healthy person, while a mentally deseased person would feel relief from all the sadness from the thought of dying alone. I think when people say they have thought about suicide, the general idea of suicide or the thought of yourself dying but rather as a scenario is ment and not really the thought of dying to be freed from whatever worries you. I hope you get my point.
Fabio Matu
Maybe it's because of a language barrier (I'm German), but I never heard someone saying they thought about suicide when they actually thought about the scenario of being dead. I think suicide is a term that is used in a much more alarming context, especially a context of depression, a very dark time in someone's life or a traumatic event.
Healthy people who are going through a hard time and are overwhelmed and exhausted. Maybe at some point they think: "oh some people commit suicide" But every healthy Person immediately rejects this thought. I wouldn't consider that suicidal. People who seriously think of suicide as an option worth considering, that is what I'd call suicidal.
It's dangerous to generalize something as awful as suicide and depression. It's incredibly important to differentiate when you talk about it.
So ein Stein Na gut, das macht es etwas einfacher :D Was ich meinte ist genau das. Dass psychisch gesunde Leute eventuell während einer sehr schlechten Phase zwar über Selbstmord nachdenken, jedoch nie ernsthaft, sondern eher als Szenario; im Sinne von :"Naja, wer würde mich schon vermissen?" oder "Ich müsste mich nie wieder mit meinem Alltag rumschlagen". Ich weiß nicht, ob wirklich gut rüberkommt, was ich meine, aber im Endeffekt ist es einfach nur folgender Unterschied: eine psychisch gesunde Person denkt niemals ernsthaft darüber nach, sich umzubringen, aus welchem Grund auch immer - es ist nur ein Fantasiespiel - während eine suizidale Person den Selbstmord ernsthaft in Betracht zieht, als eine bessere Alternative zum eigenen Leben. Der Alltag wird so unerträglich, dass dieser Person die Möglichkeit des Nicht-Denken-Müssens als bessere Alternative erscheint. Ich denke, dass wir uns da ziemlich einig sind. Mich interessiert in letzter Zeit aber viel eher die Frage, wie Depressionen und Suizidalität zu Mordgedanken werden. Offensichtlich gibt es da einen starken Zusammenhang, denn 2% aller Selbstmorde in den USA werden zusammen mit Morden begangen.
God bless all of them, I wish them all peace.
I read her book and my heart hurts for her.
If there's any kids out there thinking of a shooting or violent crime just think about the effect it will have on your family and ppl that loved you ...if you need to speak with someone immediately call a friend or trusted family member and seek help ..you will either be killed or in jail for the rest of your life ..please get help there's no reason to hurt innocent ppl and the pain you would cause the victims families. 🙏
I was a kid susan when I heard about this maybe 14. Our high school was the next one to almost get shot up in September of 1999.
In plano texas. I don't know if you ever heard about it but there were a lot of schools that can relate to your loss ma'm. . Don't worry, we all love you and god will forgive you for your mistakes. We all make them. As long as you have remorse, and you keep your faith, god will always love his children. And I know what it's like to be in your sons shoes. I almost went to prison myself, had I not had that wake up call. I would be dead today. So keep up your strong words of wisdom, the only ones that hate you, really just hate themselves.
It was a pleasure to listen to Mrs Klebold she had lot to share with us, only wish we could hear from the Harris's, it would put more of us at ease, and understanding what really was going on in their sons lives.
The Harris's trashed their son's cross the same night.
Sue praises her son. Sue is just like Eric.
In this interview, all she wanted to do was to out this chomo.
@@orphanrafferty1955 they didnt trash their own son's cross. Daniel Rohrbaugh(sp)s father did that because he didn't feel that victims and killers should be memorialized in the same place. The Harrises have always been very private. I'm sure they suffered and mourned his death just as much as Sue mourned Dylan's.
@@orphanrafferty1955 lol wow what are you on man?
@@daily_gamer6080 as of now, judging by your said conclusion:
1) i don't believe you have killed any psychopaths.
2) i believe you are dumb enough to ask Joyce Rafferty to babysit your own kids.
I'm so glad she's finally expressing some of her own pain.
I salute you sue klebold well done for reaching out to others through your own pain
Kids are good at hiding things especially when depressed and not mentally well
She seems like a great lady my heart goes out to her.
All that stress she endured in the last 20+ years caused her hair to turn gray. I blame Dylan. Sue did everything right to raise him, but Dylan went down a dark satanic path.
As a mature gentleman myself, it is very important for every institutions especially our schools to have anti-bullying programs, loneliness awareness, mental illness awareness, strong security, & weapon control to try to make the world a kinder safer place for our society period. I am not saying we should be paranoid what I really mean is that we should be very cautious of any boy, any girl, any man, and any woman who possesses any dangerous weapons because it is a matter of time before they start going on a deadly rampage which they will end up harming & murdering innocent people. Also they will harm themselves which would lead them to commit suicide. That is why it is very important to connect with people who are struggling with any problems in their life both mentally & physically. To all my fellow human brothers and sisters around the world stay safe & always remember be genuine & take care of one another.
Nobody knows how this woman was hated and blamed except her. She seems very well spoken and nice. Its too easy to blame parents all the time. I think many people would want her to be their mom, included me. Praying for her strength, and of course for the families of the victims.
It’s easy to blame the parents because that’s usually where the core issues come from, she did nothing but raise a monster and she turned her head when it mattered.
She’s such a doll, and Dylan put all this on burden on her with his selfish act....
This interviewer is better than Diane Sawyer. I said it.
I had no idea she wrote a book and started talking after all these years. After seeing the Diane interviewe on ABC News I was glad she is able to live better. I knew she had gotten divorced and had issues with the older son being on drugs around the time Dylan withdrew. Hope they move past it eventually.
How do you know the older son is on drugs? I've always wondered what became of Eric and Dylans brothers, if they were ever able to have a normal life after this.
Hafsa M Sue has talked about being distracted by her older son's drug issues at the time...Its one of her televised interviews and in her book.
Lake Jones How do you know that?
The shooting took place three weeks after I arrived in the US for a long term assignment, and I clearly remember this like yesterday. People in the office were talking about this everyday, and I even got calls from family and friends to see if I was ok. My heart goes out to the victims whose lives were cut short and their family. Also, kudos to Sue who took the courage to speak in public about her son. It must be an extremely painful jouney to be exposed and judged by bystanders!
She looks and sounds exactly like my grandmother :( even the same haircut.
Shit, i wished i had killed my grandma too
Make Quebec Great Again tf nigga
Hi. I am coming from a place of love for this grieving mother. I have no idea what it must feel like to be in her shoes. How much do we know of Dahmer's mom or Hitler's mom, right?!? I can say, however, that this kid raised in upper middle class Colorado must have experienced some sort of trauma. Trauma is the leading cause for pathology. I am a Licensed Therapist, and my clients are not all necessarily pathological. The one factor in those that are, however, is trauma. Mental, physical and psychological trauma cause extreme pathology in the majority of cases. Cutting is an indicator of self injurious behavior that can also indicate homicidal tendencies. There is quite a fine line between suicidal and homicidal tendencies if you ask a forensic Psychologist or Psychiatrist. The fact that neither family group picked up on their children's behavior or impulses is alarming, frankly.
I commend Sue for coming forward about her son and taking responsibility for her child's actions. No parent wants their child to end up this way. Eric's parents should come forward and accept responsibility.
Eric’s parents coming forward and speaking or accepting responsibility would be meaningless to all those who were affected by the tragedy, they are doing the right thing by staying away and quiet.
Oh God Bless this mother...this could be any of us moms, God forbid....she is grieving a child too..not your fault
Unlike Eric's parent's she's faced the world ..... The guilt she feels....😢x x x 💜💚💛💕
From what i read, eric's parents may have known for a long time about him. I wonder why they never intervened to help him?
@@nomashninaidoo7923 fear of there son maybe .... or fear of the reality of the situation...., 😌😕😕😕
@@nomashninaidoo7923 Eric was on medication and saw a therapist, his parents knew about his mental health problems and I'm sure in their perspective he was getting help. Just because they don't want to talk about Eric doesn't mean they didn't experience the exact same things Sue did.
She is amazing. God bless her
Im glad Sue has spoken out...this is completely irrelevant but I find her voice so soothing..i wish she had an asmr channel
I don't blame her at all 😔i read her book it was great I highly suggest ppl to read it 💕👍
@haiku spirit her book is called A Mother's Reckoning Living in the Aftermath of Tragedy. You can buy it from Amazon and eBay. I bought my copy off eBay and I've read it twice. It really is a good read and it made me cry both times. She is a sweet lady and I'd like to hug her if I could
Sue Klebold is truly admirable, a very strong woman in both mind and heart. I hope you find the peace you need
we love you sue Klebold ❤️
+Overcas Im not from America but thanks. Unfortunately talking dont work for me. Talking is just... well talking. It does nothing to relieve my rage. Especially if the cause is chemical or hormonal (I dont know what causes it for me). I do have reasons why I feel rage but its overly intense and taking my anger out on something doesnt relieve me. I feel taking it out on WHO im enraged by and thats people. It also makes me lack empathy and I get verbally abusive.
I know this lady been threw so much since her own child was involved in something tragic like this rest in peace too all the innocent people was killed
Sue you are admired by me 💖
"Have pity...she is going through the unimaginable."
Poor woman.
I love Sue. Such a sweet lady.
Lolololololololololol cool, time to wake Littleton up again.
@@orphanrafferty1955 what
Did she profit off the book she wrote about the tragedy?
No, all the proceeds go to suicide prevention or something like that.
@@Anna-ms1pdNo they did not go to any charities, if they did what are the names of the charities. She is lying.
Dylan's brother looks like Dylan. Look at images of Dylan's brother on Google. The resemblance is striking!
I wonder why
That's insane and completely unheard of bro!!!
You can be the kindest parent in the world. But kindness doesn't always equate into preceptive or effective. I basically feel a stronger and or more involved parent could have had a very good chance of preventing this tragedy.
She sensed something was wrong...I would think the bedroom full of assault weapons and explosives might have been a sign.
They were not in his bedroom.
That was Eric
And the fact that he had robbed a car full of electronics should have been a dead giveaway. If my son robbed someone I would be making sure to keep my eye on him and put him in therapy regardless of what he says.
What did the counselors miss
I understand she wants to think of her son as being as innocent as she raised him, but Dylan was not as innocent as his mother wants us to think. Whether he was truly bullied or not, it's very clear Dylan did his own bullying - killing students & a teacher, & injuring many other students for the rest of their lives, that's not the sign of a victim, that's a KILLER. If he truly suffered from depression, he found his outlet. I resent that his mother here "paints" a picture of her son that he was some harmless & innocent kid, every parent wants to think of their children as being innocent. He had friends, a girlfriend, a family that loved him, he even went to his prom, these are important & basic necessities a lot of us don't have & we still turn out decent, good people. Reading his journals, looking at his drawn pictures, his videos; Dylan Klebold suffered more than depression, he suffered from hate. Just because people suffer from a mental or emotional disorder, doesn't give them an excuse to kill people. Eric & Dylan didn't decide in 24 hours they were going to kill people, this was a ONE YEAR PLAN with a lot of preparations. They knew what they were doing, depression or not; whether they were bullied or not, they were KILLERS, that's worse.
Yes 💯💯💯 I completely agree with you!! I been saying that for such a long time!! I can see past her bullshit! She is riding on this mental health issue to paint Dylan as an innocent rather than a murderer!
Dylan had friends but was not popular and did not have a girlfriend. Also Sue clearly said she doesn't excuse his actions she just wants to spread awareness and she's allowed to grieve like any other parent
Rose Karina oh yes, spread awareness for Dylan’s mental illness after he killed 13ppl and wounded many others 😑 Seems she wants to use Dylan’s mental illness so ppl will have an understanding and gain sympathy for his murderous actions 😑 NO one is stopping her from grieving for her son. Just as her son did NOT stop himself from committing murder
Your comment is extremely ignorant where mental health issues are concerned. Sue Klebold is not excusing her son’s actions. Maybe if you showed some compassion towards this mother who is grieving her dead son regardless of his actions before he died. And she doesn’t paint him as a innocent bystander.
Apple washington Pure nonsense !!
Dylan's parents never believed in disciplining children with spanking, which is probably the only thing they did wrong in bringing him up. But there are also kids who get whipped every day for no reason and they also turn suicidal and turn to crime.
And they were neglectful parents who didn’t pay attention.
15 seconds in,man she looks just like her son
pretty little psycho physically ofc
Excellent book! Bless her for her courage.
0:24 dang she looks just like her son
Dylan was trying to come off as abused... Sue is continuing his legacy
My heart goes out to her. It’s not her fault at all. She couldn’t have known that Dylan would do this.
I could have seen her blaming Eric for a long time
Such disgusting interview... More a book tour rather toadmit her son threatened to several of his friends... Brought to her & her busband's attention... She'z primiging her book... She is still the sickening textbook example of a narsisistic mother... Finally, parents who ignor warnings are being prosecuted. Even the judge in their vehicle vandalism/trial of the mother's & other family members not attending their sons' trial. As for partners in crime, concerned parents don't allow their kids to hang to hang-out with & continue activities with criminals because friends don't get friends in trouble. "We asked... He said, 'Everthings fine...'"
The mother seems very caught up with the poor state of her insane murderuous son. Her son was a piece of shit that she shat out to kill innocent people. Period.
Pimply faced teenagers are always so full of angst...just gut it out, over time your face will clear up and things will get better.
why don't ppl think dylan was a victim ?
because he wasn't
taltigolt why not
Because he deliberately went to school to kill as many kids as he could.
because a lot view Eric as the complete driving force, not Dylan. Obviously he is still a murderer but it's very questionable if without Eric if he would have had it inside him to hurt people or just himself. Just answering your question obviously not defending two mass murderers lol.
HE WAS SUCH AN AWESOME DUDE
can we get a real interview?
poor lady
Always keep in mind killers have a choice and enough time to change their minds after thinking about all the destruction and pain they will cause. So a lot of times killing is done by a made up mind, no if ands are buts! Also if my child had did this horrendous act I would constantly be thinking about all the lives my son destroyed and not "woe is my son" and I miss him. This is all she says at all the speeches she's done. Plus she said she didn't believe in evil, wow. To boot she keep acting like he committed suicide over nothing but it was really over selfishness!
Exactly. Narcissistic Sue Klebold is doing it for the money. As long as Sue Klebold can keep blaming everyone else and protray her son Dylan and herself as victims and also claim she is doing it all under the guise of mental illness & suicide awareness then she can keep milking that cash cow for more money. That’s what it is all about, money. Sue Klebold found a way to scam sleeping sheep for money out of a horrible and sad tragedy her son committed all because he sought revenge for not getting what he wanted. For being rejected when he thought he was entitled and led to believe by his mother that he lived in a world where everyone loved & accepted him. Sue built a false reality for her son. Sue Klebold’s other son Byron was a hardcore drug addiict throughout his entire teenage yesrs-all the way through adulthood. Absolutely pathetic.
Pamela Bennett You’re obviously not a parent or you would know that a parent loves their child NO MATTER WHAT. A parent’s loyalty is to their child first, no one else.
Dylan will always be her baby and she will always love him.
Good or bad he was still her son so of course she misses him that s natural . As to the rest I never read her book as I dont care for the killers stories no matter the crime. I do read books on the VICTIMS and end up crying my eyes out
@@roksolana-zb4huYeah I’m sure she loved him when she abandoned him all summer to work all day. I’m sure she loved him so much when she neglected his mental health.
She said his parents 😕sounds like she disowned his ass
Where are Erics parents
They hide from journalists and do not want to give interviews.
They actually have respect for the victims so they don’t exploit the whole situation.
@@carnival3429they overlooked plenty of potential things as well don't get it twisted
Not once has this woman talked about firearms. Her speeches are all about mental health, and that's why she's basically ignored.
She's admitted to being hesitant to talk about it...
She has been asked before. She basically nicely said that she doesn't disagree with the mindset of doing background checks, but it's not an issue she is going to get behind as she doesn't believe it's a helpful area of focus. And she doesn't like guns one bit.
It's honestly probably because one of the guns the boys purchased was not purchased legally, they'd have been able to legally get them on their own once they turned 18 as they didn't have a record that would have prevented it, and she's spent so many years studying this stuff that she probably knows all about other weapons that have been used in massacres when they couldn't get a gun (I.E. knives and arson).
In other words; no background check would have stopped these two so it would be pointless for her to fight for that as Columbine still would have happened if background checks would have been required. If she had recognized her son being suicidal on the other hand, that would have prevented it so that's her fight.
I believe she didn’t want to see what was going
She wanted him to go thru life without getting caught. If You're in CO, get the Harris's to speak up again
Yes
she said she didn't no nothing was wrong.. my foot.. her son was an alcoholic his nickname vokda was a miss-spelling for his favourite alcohol drink. ... she knew she just in denial still
exactly. they also dragged a black kid out from hiding under a library table, called him racial names and shot him. yeah im sure she had no idea he was racist too 👌 they learn it somewhere.
And don’t forget that her other son was a drug addict at just 14 and her husband was also an alcoholic up until there divorce when he recovered. I wonder why everyone around this woman had mental health issues.
@@carnival3429no he wasn’t.. get your facts right 🤦♀️
Don’t bully
Don't kill innocent people..
ASMR UNORTHODOX People who bully are not innocent
@@lexusrc3507 so the 13 Eric and Dylan killed bullied them?
Cynthia Hessin is the shit!
Dylan's mommmmm!!
Warning to Littleton:
Take a gravol...
They were fans and they were like 3rd cousins
Dilusional
I definitely believe that she is sincere. I sincerely feel for her.
On the flip side however I can't imagine the terror the victims went through before being slaughtered just like Isaiah pleading for his mom.
There families left with unimaginable pain especially Daniels father.
Sure she's very articulate and sincere but maybe since she is highly intelligent she and her husband should have known when the next door neighbor heard them breaking glass sounds coming from Eric's garage. Come on.
These parents should have been put in Colorado State Prison for parental neglect and involuntary manslaughter.
I remember that horrific day and how Sheriff Stone along with his investigators found pipe bombs and gunshot ammo in the boys room.
Thank you for reading. Respectfully.
Bullshit! Kids can fool everyone.
@@momof3m965Yes but how can this neglectful mother be fooled? He had robbed a car full of electronics she should have kept her eye on him and put him in therapy regardless of what he said.
6:00
when she says "us", she means "us psychopaths". Talking about her and Dylan. Her other 2 births, they are both empaths.
MONTREAL!!!
Yes your son was going through a lot yes that’s the reason not you
...MONTREAL to LITTLETON... OVER...
She stayed out of public eye because she was a self acclaimed activist. Most activists just simply want to be seen and heard, its more attention than anything. Now, she uses this to get it, as well as to make money off of it with books and interviews, since she left her husband in 2014 and never did really have a real job. She needed to stay out of the public eye....
7:59
Couldnt be more obvious
Jesus Saves!Folk:s
She sounds like an expert but knows nothing. She should be in prison.
sounds like you know nothing as well
She’s a very evil woman.
I always thought it was "better check my pulse coz its the next..."
YUL to DEN
...COPY...
terrible
Never been so broke lolololol
Its children of the korn
Oops
YUL to DEN
that's right kid's I'm going solo.
MONTREAL MONTREAL MONTREAL MONTREAL MONTREAL MONTREAL MONTREAL MONTREAL
5:29 her eyes almost went black
4:32 BAAAAAAAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
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7:14
Yo
6:05
Her eyes almost went black again. The interviewer is trying to provoke her ;)
What are you even talking about? She just blinked
@@starstellastar3680 you definitely groomed
@@orphanrafferty1955 what do you mean? That i brushed my hair??
@@orphanrafferty1955 whats your obsession with Sue?