Hi, thanks for the video. This question's a bit off topic but here goes: For an indoor pool I can use gas heating for the water, if I wanted, so the only necessary piece of electrical equipment would be the pump to keep the water passing through a filter, is that right? Obviously lighting and other peripherals aside. I could use UV chlorination but don't need to - the only electrical thing I actually need is the pump? I'm doing a electrical course project with a swimming pool so it's the electrical wiring I'm interested in and don't want to add unnecessary complications. Thanks. : )
Thanks for a straight forward video!! QUESTION-- I am switching from a 230v dual speed to a 230v single speed-- my current connected wiring is 1-white, 2-black, 3or4-blue, ground-green. *I have no RED wire. ?? My new Pentair WhisperFlo has L1 & L2, &ground--- do I simply attach white&black as hot and remove blue?? Guessing "3or4" is the low voltage Again, going from dual to single. Thanks!!
We highly recommend that you reference the wiring guide that came with your motor. A 230 single speed pump requires three wires( Two hot and one ground). White is never a hot wire unless someone improperly installed your wiring, which could be very dangerous. If you're unsure how to safely test your wiring to figure out which lines are hot, then we would recommend getting help from a local professional.
Inyo Pools Thanks for reply, and suggestion-- I looked at old motor diagram, it was wired correctly for using timer vs switch... except they used white for what typically red wire on motor L1. I simply removed unnecessary blue wire from power supply,taped it and left in timer box for possible future use, taped off motor end as well, then straightforward wiring. Motor is working perfectly!! :) Yayyyyy *thanks again
Why is it everyone thinks they need background music for an instructional video? Lose the music so you can be clearly understood especially when talking about terminal 5
marcia w I’m with you especially when he has to talk over the music, not to mention he has a speaking problem anyway. No wonder this video is getting so many thumbs down. 👎
a straight threw connector make it easier to get the wires to the pumps motor, and a plastic connector works better I have found, as the metal one are wire scrapers, and can damage the wires. some lube on the caps (cover) screws,bolts threads makes it come off easier next time when the motor needs service. not on the power screws ! that's the first time I have heard a multi-meter called a multimiter ?
I just switched out my old Hayward 1 HP pump with a Hayward Super Pump, 1.5 HP. The breaker in my box is a wide 15 amp that takes up (2) spots. When I went to switch out my old pump to this new Hayward, I saw that the wires going to my pump are 2 black wires, and 1 green wire. They are of heavier gauge. (not braided, but solid). I "assumed" they were for 220 V, and have wired it up as such no problem. Turned the power back on, everything seems to work fine. However, pump motor is a bit "Warmer" to the touch then I remember. I've run it for 2 hours on, and it won't burn you, but it's warm. I can hold my hand on it for 10 seconds though, no problem. No problems with suction, pressure, etc. Is this warming normal, or do you think I may have 115volt wires going to it? I don't have a Voltmeter. :-( Thoughts?
If it is working fine, then keep the motor the way it is. Motors get warm, they may even get hot but that is just a byproduct of their functioning. Motor aren't meant to be handled when they are in operation, so leave it be for now. If the motor begins to overheat and shut itself off, or trip the breaker then that would be cause for concern.
Thank you. Your suggestion to check the voltage saved me about $450. Although wired with a white, black and bare ground it was in fact wired 240v not 120v. I will be replacing the 120v black, white, bare with the proper green, red, black ASAP.
I have wfk-12 the wiring diagram for this thing doesn't tell me where power in goes please help! I have the multicolor wires in the unit set for low voltage.
Hi, I am replacing Hayward super 11, 1 hp. with Hayward max flow 1.5 hp. The house wiring is for 220 volt. My question is what is the difference between 110 and 220 is it performance ? or other things what will happen If I use 110 Volt option ? Hayward max flow 1.5 hp. is wired for 110 1nd 220. Thanks.
I am new to this topic. Need to replace old 1 speed 1HP pump with new one 1 speed 1HP pump. Different brand names. Have never deal with pools and pumps before. Watching UA-cam for educational purposes. You say that White (neutral) wire goes to L1, and Black (hot) goes to L2 terminals. Another source on UA-cam says that Black (hot) goes to L1, White (neutral) goes to L2. Whose information is correct? Sorry for this question, but I dont want to fry new pump.
Hi I'm a bit of a novice when it comes to pool motors and pumps. Though I am learning a little at a time. My question, I have a Hayward 2 hp superpump and recently was given a pentair superflo 1hp pump. What would be the out come or is it possible to switch pumps being that I would be lowering the hp? I have done some research and feel that the superflo might be able to do the job. Any insight would be helpful. Thanks.
The Superpump and SuperFlo are pretty much the same when it comes to flow rates, when comparing similar horsepowers. If are dropping from a 2HP to a 1 HP, you are going to see a significant drop in flow. you will have to run the pump longer, and possibly cost you more to clean your pool.
Question. I got Pentair Whisperflo 230v 2hp. I did an overhaul to the motor and changed the bearing and shaft seals. I like to test the motor see if ok, before installing to the pool. Electrical motor I have L1 L2 and ground and there is white wire going for motor to the L2. How do I test the motor with regular wire and plug to outlet?
Hello Armen - Most standard outlets are 115v. Your pump is 230v. You won't be able to test it with a standard plug and outlet. You can test it with the power that is currently running to your pool motor.
115V and 230V are stamped with arrows are pointing down to terminals 4 and 5. So wouldn't for a 230V connection one of the load lines be connected to terminal 5 (or A)?
chris clemann the stamped 230 and 115 voltage markings is for the black jumper switch that selects the voltage; the hot wires will not be connected directly to either of those terminals. Here is an excerpt from our how to guide regarding 230 V wiring: "Red will go to the L1 terminal and black will go to the L2 terminal. The green wire will be under the green screw to the far right. In addition, there is a black plug with two wires coming from inside the motor, a black wire and white wire with a black tracer line. The black plug is positioned so that the white arrow on top of the 2 prong black plug is pointing at 230V. "
I have a 2hp Pentair pool pump that I am connecting the wires to. I set the jumper on the top 2 poles(Jumper wires are Black wire to top and white wire to the pole under it), and hooked the power wires to the 2 screws. Hooked up the ground to the green screw. When I turn the pump on it starts and immediately throws the breaker. I am wiring it up for the 230 volt. Where did I go wrong?
Can you send us a picture of your wire connections and the motor's back end? Please forward the email to upload@inyopools.com Subject: ATTN: UA-cam Comment
Hi Big Mike, when a breaker trips, it's an indication that there is either an electrical short or an overload on the circuit. Double check your wiring to ensure that there are no breaks or wires touching. Also, your new more powerful motor may be drawing more amps than your old one. Is the motor wired for 115 or 220?
The pump's bonding wire is connected to the ground rod, which would be installed when the inground pool was built. The ground rod and wire are already in place when a pool owner completes this installation, which is why most guides don't show the wire getting connected to the other side. It's already there.
reverse polarity 1081 Franklin pool pump motor. can you help me? The motor came from a hot tub and I have it on my air compressor; but it rotates the wrong direction for the compressor motor to work properly.
The bonding wire from the pump is usually connected to another bonding wire using a split nut. Check out our guide titled " How to Add a Line to the Pool Bonding Wire". It will explain how everything around the pool is bonded. www.inyopools.com/HowToPage/how-to-add-a-line-to-the-pool-bonding-wire.aspx
biggstell Best guess would be your motor is overheating for some reason. Take some time to read our how to guide on overheating motors: www.inyopools.com/HowToPage/how-to-troubleshoot-a-pool-pump-motor-motor-overheated.aspx
We'll need more information. Are you trying to connect the lines to the motor or to a timer/breaker? If it is a motor, what is the catalog or model number? Have you confirmed the voltage using a multimeter?
@@Inyopools I got it figured out :) the new motor I got only had two wires coming about 3 in. I went into the back and saw where to connect the ground wire.
The best one that's straight to the point with do's and dont's not found in others
Hi, thanks for the video. This question's a bit off topic but here goes: For an indoor pool I can use gas heating for the water, if I wanted, so the only necessary piece of electrical equipment would be the pump to keep the water passing through a filter, is that right? Obviously lighting and other peripherals aside. I could use UV chlorination but don't need to - the only electrical thing I actually need is the pump?
I'm doing a electrical course project with a swimming pool so it's the electrical wiring I'm interested in and don't want to add unnecessary complications.
Thanks. : )
Always look at a wiring diagram that comes with the motor when deciding where your wires go.
Good job friend 👍
Thank you!
My original plug has a red, white, black and green ground wire. Which two do i use on my hayward 230 1hp motor.
Thanks for a straight forward video!!
QUESTION-- I am switching from a 230v dual speed to a 230v single speed-- my current connected wiring is 1-white, 2-black, 3or4-blue, ground-green. *I have no RED wire.
?? My new Pentair WhisperFlo has L1 & L2, &ground--- do I simply attach white&black as hot and remove blue?? Guessing "3or4" is the low voltage
Again, going from dual to single.
Thanks!!
We highly recommend that you reference the wiring guide that came with your motor. A 230 single speed pump requires three wires( Two hot and one ground). White is never a hot wire unless someone improperly installed your wiring, which could be very dangerous. If you're unsure how to safely test your wiring to figure out which lines are hot, then we would recommend getting help from a local professional.
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I'm going to use a red Sharpie and color the white wire red the first couple inches.
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Thanks for reply, and suggestion-- I looked at old motor diagram, it was wired correctly for using timer vs switch... except they used white for what typically red wire on motor L1.
I simply removed unnecessary blue wire from power supply,taped it and left in timer box for possible future use, taped off motor end as well, then straightforward wiring.
Motor is working perfectly!!
:) Yayyyyy *thanks again
Why is it everyone thinks they need background music for an instructional video? Lose the music so you can be clearly understood especially when talking about terminal 5
marcia w I’m with you especially when he has to talk over the music, not to mention he has a speaking problem anyway. No wonder this video is getting so many thumbs down. 👎
a straight threw connector make it easier to get the wires to the pumps motor, and a plastic connector works better I have found, as the metal one are wire scrapers, and can damage the wires. some lube on the caps (cover) screws,bolts threads makes it come off easier next time when the motor needs service. not on the power screws !
that's the first time I have heard a multi-meter called a multimiter ?
I just switched out my old Hayward 1 HP pump with a Hayward Super Pump, 1.5 HP. The breaker in my box is a wide 15 amp that takes up (2) spots. When I went to switch out my old pump to this new Hayward, I saw that the wires going to my pump are 2 black wires, and 1 green wire. They are of heavier gauge. (not braided, but solid). I "assumed" they were for 220 V, and have wired it up as such no problem. Turned the power back on, everything seems to work fine. However, pump motor is a bit "Warmer" to the touch then I remember. I've run it for 2 hours on, and it won't burn you, but it's warm. I can hold my hand on it for 10 seconds though, no problem. No problems with suction, pressure, etc. Is this warming normal, or do you think I may have 115volt wires going to it? I don't have a Voltmeter. :-( Thoughts?
If it is working fine, then keep the motor the way it is. Motors get warm, they may even get hot but that is just a byproduct of their functioning.
Motor aren't meant to be handled when they are in operation, so leave it be for now. If the motor begins to overheat and shut itself off, or trip the breaker then that would be cause for concern.
Thanks! Yeah, it's been working 100% fine since install. :-)
Thank you. Your suggestion to check the voltage saved me about $450. Although wired with a white, black and bare ground it was in fact wired 240v not 120v. I will be replacing the 120v black, white, bare with the proper green, red, black ASAP.
Saved money is the best kind of money. Thanks for watching. - MGS
Bob Tierney color doesn’t matter.
I have wfk-12 the wiring diagram for this thing doesn't tell me where power in goes please help! I have the multicolor wires in the unit set for low voltage.
Hi, I am replacing Hayward super 11, 1 hp. with Hayward max flow 1.5 hp. The house wiring is for 220 volt. My question is what is the difference between 110 and 220 is it performance ? or other things what will happen If I use 110 Volt option ? Hayward max flow 1.5 hp. is wired for 110 1nd 220. Thanks.
My pump has two black, a red and a green going to it. It is a duel speed pump. Why do I have a second black wire?
I am new to this topic. Need to replace old 1 speed 1HP pump with new one 1 speed 1HP pump. Different brand names. Have never deal with pools and pumps before. Watching UA-cam for educational purposes. You say that White (neutral) wire goes to L1, and Black (hot) goes to L2 terminals. Another source on UA-cam says that Black (hot) goes to L1, White (neutral) goes to L2. Whose information is correct? Sorry for this question, but I dont want to fry new pump.
Hi I'm a bit of a novice when it comes to pool motors and pumps. Though I am learning a little at a time. My question, I have a Hayward 2 hp superpump and recently was given a pentair superflo 1hp pump. What would be the out come or is it possible to switch pumps being that I would be lowering the hp? I have done some research and feel that the superflo might be able to do the job. Any insight would be helpful. Thanks.
The Superpump and SuperFlo are pretty much the same when it comes to flow rates, when comparing similar horsepowers. If are dropping from a 2HP to a 1 HP, you are going to see a significant drop in flow. you will have to run the pump longer, and possibly cost you more to clean your pool.
Question. I got Pentair Whisperflo 230v 2hp. I did an overhaul to the motor and changed the bearing and shaft seals. I like to test the motor see if ok, before installing to the pool. Electrical motor I have L1 L2 and ground and there is white wire going for motor to the L2. How do I test the motor with regular wire and plug to outlet?
Hello Armen - Most standard outlets are 115v. Your pump is 230v. You won't be able to test it with a standard plug and outlet. You can test it with the power that is currently running to your pool motor.
What if I have 2 black wires, 1 red wire, 1 green? Cap off 1 black wire? for a 230v motor
Is this a single speed or dual speed pool pump motor?
115V and 230V are stamped with arrows are pointing down to terminals 4 and 5. So wouldn't for a 230V connection one of the load lines be connected to terminal 5 (or A)?
chris clemann the stamped 230 and 115 voltage markings is for the black jumper switch that selects the voltage; the hot wires will not be connected directly to either of those terminals.
Here is an excerpt from our how to guide regarding 230 V wiring: "Red will go to the L1 terminal and black will go to the L2 terminal. The green wire will be under the green screw to the far right. In addition, there is a black plug with two wires coming from inside the motor, a black wire and white wire with a black tracer line. The black plug is positioned so that the white arrow on top of the 2 prong black plug is pointing at 230V. "
I figured it out. Red one is for the timers.
We're glad you figured it out. 2-speed pumps have four lines; high speed, low speed, common and ground.
I have a 2hp Pentair pool pump that I am connecting the wires to. I set the jumper on the top 2 poles(Jumper wires are Black wire to top and white wire to the pole under it), and hooked the power wires to the 2 screws. Hooked up the ground to the green screw. When I turn the pump on it starts and immediately throws the breaker. I am wiring it up for the 230 volt. Where did I go wrong?
Can you send us a picture of your wire connections and the motor's back end? Please forward the email to upload@inyopools.com Subject: ATTN: UA-cam Comment
I upgraded from 1hp to 1.5hp and followed this simple instructions. When I turn on the pump it trips the circuit breaker, what am I doing wrong?
Hi Big Mike, when a breaker trips, it's an indication that there is either an electrical short or an overload on the circuit. Double check your wiring to ensure that there are no breaks or wires touching. Also, your new more powerful motor may be drawing more amps than your old one. Is the motor wired for 115 or 220?
Noone shows where to bond bonding wire to what
The pump's bonding wire is connected to the ground rod, which would be installed when the inground pool was built. The ground rod and wire are already in place when a pool owner completes this installation, which is why most guides don't show the wire getting connected to the other side. It's already there.
Multi (multy) meter not mul TIM iter
reverse polarity 1081 Franklin pool pump motor. can you help me? The motor came from a hot tub and I have it on my air compressor; but it rotates the wrong direction for the compressor motor to work properly.
Distracting muzak dubbed over voice. WHY ?
In the video it says, regarding the bonding wire, that the "Bottom wire is connected to the pump..." well no kidding. But where does it go?
The bonding wire from the pump is usually connected to another bonding wire using a split nut. Check out our guide titled " How to Add a Line to the Pool Bonding Wire". It will explain how everything around the pool is bonded. www.inyopools.com/HowToPage/how-to-add-a-line-to-the-pool-bonding-wire.aspx
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Why does my pool pump motor run for 5 minutes and turns off for 5 minutes and continues to do that all day???
biggstell Best guess would be your motor is overheating for some reason. Take some time to read our how to guide on overheating motors: www.inyopools.com/HowToPage/how-to-troubleshoot-a-pool-pump-motor-motor-overheated.aspx
Possible low voltage
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Terrible video - discusses 230 volt wire colours while showing 115v. Out...
Mine has 2 white wires coming out with a ground on the housing. How do I know which wire to connect to the box?
We'll need more information. Are you trying to connect the lines to the motor or to a timer/breaker? If it is a motor, what is the catalog or model number? Have you confirmed the voltage using a multimeter?
@@Inyopools I got it figured out :) the new motor I got only had two wires coming about 3 in. I went into the back and saw where to connect the ground wire.