The time the Doctor and the Master were too busy eyeing each other up they totally neglected to have any sort of peripheral vision and couldn't see the large mass of Cybermen sneak up on them (made even more hilarious as when Tegan shouts, the Doctor literally looks in the wrong direction before noticing them)
Thanks to MaddoxProductions1 for pointing out that it's even worse than that. When Tegan calls to the Doctor, there is already a Cyberman right in front of the Doctor. At first he's hidden behind Tegan, but once she runs off it's obvious that he was there all along!
I love The Master trying to convince The Doctor he's on his side while in a literal black cape looking like a cross between the grim Reaper and some Shakespearen villain.
A black cape doesn't automatically mean "villain." Ever heard of Batman? And the Master has always been a Shakespearean villain. Or a Doyle villain; he was always Moriarty to the Doctor's Holmes. Well, at least until the Moff turned him into Irene Adler......
So "The Five Doctors" is where the Fifth Doctor's line "Soon be there." at 0:03 comes from. The line can later be heard again in "The Day of the Doctor" when all the Doctors unite to save Gallifrey.
There is an article here that mentions about the location filming on "The Five Doctors":- www.bbc.co.uk/wales/arts/sites/doctor-who-wales/alllocations/llanbedr-cwm-bychan
I really hated how underused Susan was on this. Having her finally return after all those years and literally just put her in the background. And she didn't recognise the Master? Surely she would know her grandfather's arch enemy? And on that subject, did she just call him The Doctor? This is criminal
Oh, knock it off. She was more comfortable calling this man who looked younger than herself "the Doctor." To her, the old man was "Grandfather." And why would she have even known the Master? He left Gallifrey before the Doctor did, maybe even before Susan was born.
Why *would* she recognize the Master, though? She probably knew him in a previous body, yes, but she's sure as heck never seen the Ainley Master. And though Time Lords usually know each other across regenerations, the fact that the Master is a half-dead thing possessing a Trakenite body might well be messing with that.
In the 10th Anniversary season, Roger Delgado's last episode saw his Master allied with the Daleks. So it's fitting to see Anthony Ainley's Master with the Cybermen for the 20th. Seeing a new Master with the Sontarans, had the classic series continued into its 30th, would have been a good idea too.
Its always a disappointment that Susan neither called The Doctor "Grandfather" nor yelled or screamed "Grandfather look out" when the cyberment turned up. Even considering her not having seen the Cyberment before,t they were still a group of robot looking beings with guns. That deserved more than standing around calmly with her hands in her coat pocket.
@@matthewmurdock7329you try do 7 years of carrying the show and having to put up with JNT’s attitude? I’d like to see you try, then again it’ll be “Lame”
@@MaskedMan66 Exactly, it's just a little rounded box with a button on it, and bike bells tend to have "swivel"-like mechanical motions to make the bell ring. Totally different.
@@Foebane72 Nothing swivels on that device; it looks far more like a compact or maybe a pocket watch. I suspect that the prop actually began life as a pill box.
When I first started collecting Classic Who, I only got this and "the Beginning" at first. As such I've seen this special nearly 30 times in the last 4 years. I recognized this line in Day of the Doctor pretty much instantly.
@@activatehalo7763 Watch "Earthshock." "The Tenth Planet" is referred to. Also, in "Attack of the Cybermen," we return to Telos, the planet visited in "Tomb of the Cybermen." John Nathan-Turner is both praised and mocked for his nostalgic take on the show.
@@MaskedMan66 Doesn't matter, simply going back there does not make the script better. It's like saying Heaven Sent honored the Timelords just because Gallifrey was in it.
Keep a sharp eye out when Tegan moves, and you'll see a lone Cyberman, supposedly right in the path of where the Doctor and the Master run! This seems to be the only shot that particular one is in!
A main problem with this story was how clueless Susan seems to be about The Master. She seems like just some woman in a mac who happens to be there. No real excitement at seeing her Grandfather or sign of experience gained in travelling with him. She should be leading Tegan not following along like someone with nothing else to do until the next bus comes.
Why should she know the Master? And she was over the moon to see the Doctor again, what are you talking about? And you'll notice that she was the one enjoying the yomp, while Tegan was grousing as usual.
Yup tissue compression thingy. Also extra dialogue added by the Castallan at the end. I had the VHS tape of this episode and they have added stuff to it.
This scene is hilarious....Tegan in her giant yeti coat rolling her eyes...the master in his stupid cloak stroking his stupid tce...no one noticing the fuckin platoon of cybermen....the cybermen's vogon voices.....the master keeling over sideways...the doctor just chucking it away....
There seemed to be three or so groups of Cybs in the Death Zone, it would have been cool if they had different looks from over the then-twenty years...
So, the Doctor and the Master are talking and Tegan's obviously concerned (and says as such). But then, at some point, she obviously gets really bored, cos both her and Susan clearly look away from the conversation for long enough for all those Cybermen to have advanced as far as they have before Tegan finally glances back at 1:43 and is all like "Oh bugger, I didn't see all those bloody great silver fellas until now!"
Mark Symond well he is often asked what kind of Doctor he is, the reply being Every Kind. So it is fitting that after he tired of being a time jumping time lord, he settled on being a Vetnerreeeee !
The teleport was in the trailer WTTW showed prior to the airing and on first hearing the line I thought The Doctor said, "Sorry, mustache." which naturally made no sense.
She is Gallifreyan, she was the first birth since the sterile curse that was placed on the timelords, they have had to use genetics to continue the species during the curse, she was what lifted the curse by being a natural Gallifreyan birth.
+TheRecreator The simple fact that she was a child when she first appeared; she hadn't been anything like long enough in her studies to be close to Time Ladyhood.
Problem with the Dr who story lines is if Susan is a lady then as she's a time lord she can now be a he. So the granddaughter can be a grandson.it much be fun in school having to teach boys to be girls and girls to be boys so when they come back as whatever they will know how to dress etc.
@@darthmetallus1977 Excuse me, but the Cybermen of the classic era were the real Cybermen. In the post-2005 DW, it was Cybus Men until the genuine article appeared in Capaldi's era. It was not "lazy writing" (a ridiculously-- and usually erroneously-- overused phrase nowadays).
Clearly the 5th doctor had really poor vision, he didn't see the cybermen and he didn't notice the Master who sticks out like a sore thumb in his black outfit until he shouted at him
I think in the Planet of Fire the 5th Doctor is seen wearing his spectacles to examine the wall where the new mismatch gas can come through. In Castrovalva he puts on his specks in the console room to operate the controls.
@@barryguff6893 Not when attention is focused. Just roll with it, our kid; this blinking show is forty-one years old, and it's way too late to be whining about it now.
Here my version of The Five Doctors: The Fifth Doctor takes Tegan and Susan and ben and polly towards the main gate but encounters the Master, who has no better luck convincing the Fifth Doctor of his bona fides than he had the Third. At that moment, the two are confronted by Cybermen. When they try to run away, the new Master is knocked out by an explosion caused by a Cyber-gun blast. The Fifth Doctor finds the Master's recall device on his unconscious body and transmats himself to the Capitol.
sweiland75 She never said anything about him not being a Time Lord. She just hasn't met him before which is why she asked whether he was a friend or not.
She isn't a Time LADY. And if you watch the rest of the story, the Third Doctor doesn't realize it's him at first either. This is because the Master is wearing a non-Time Lord body.
I like the latest model design of the cybermen better in the modern series. The latest version of the cybermen were seen in the episode "Nightmare in Silver".
Where did the master get his cloak. Before he was transmitted he only wore his usual black outfit but in the death zone he's wearing the cloak. Later in the story the cloak has disappeared again.
Why? He left Gallifrey before she and the Doctor did, maybe even before she was born. And even if she did know him, why would she know him in this form? Even the Doctor (in his third incarnation) didn't realize it was him for a long moment.
Why? The Master left Galifrey before The Doctor. She may not have been born then. Also, that isn't a regeneration of the Master. He was dying in a failed regeneration and used the powers of the Keeper of Traken to posess the body of Trevas. Other Galifreyans wouldn't instinctively know he was a Timelord.
I could see this scene being played a bit more action-y these days...let the Master get a few kills before being overwhelmed. Alas, ye'olden times had slight budget restraints.
I still don't understand why it's called The "Five" Doctors when, to the best of my knowledge, I only count 4. Where was Tom Baker's Doctor in all this?
Baker ultimately declined participation so they took footage of him from Shada (unfinished story) and had 4th get stuck in the time vortex so he didn't make it to the Death Zone.
Susan asking about "The Doctor" is so weird. I swear it's like this show never took her seriously as his granddaughter. I wish they'd put her in the 60th and finally give her something interesting to do.
I doubt she would recognize him. He's possessing a Trakenite body after all and it's been several decades at least since she last saw him if the Master and Doctor didn't have a falling out first.
The time the Doctor and the Master were too busy eyeing each other up they totally neglected to have any sort of peripheral vision and couldn't see the large mass of Cybermen sneak up on them (made even more hilarious as when Tegan shouts, the Doctor literally looks in the wrong direction before noticing them)
Thanks to MaddoxProductions1 for pointing out that it's even worse than that.
When Tegan calls to the Doctor, there is already a Cyberman right in front of the Doctor. At first he's hidden behind Tegan, but once she runs off it's obvious that he was there all along!
It seems that noticing his surroundings has been an ongoing problem for him 😅
Okay, W.A., how would you have staged it in that location?
I love The Master trying to convince The Doctor he's on his side while in a literal black cape looking like a cross between the grim Reaper and some Shakespearen villain.
This must be why most people find it hard to trust me 😂
A black cape doesn't automatically mean "villain." Ever heard of Batman? And the Master has always been a Shakespearean villain. Or a Doyle villain; he was always Moriarty to the Doctor's Holmes. Well, at least until the Moff turned him into Irene Adler......
"Seal of the High Counsel of Gallifrey, nicked it off the Master in the Death Zone!" - Eleventh Doctor 'The Time Of The Doctor"
High Council.
Ah, so that's where they got the Day of the Doctor voice from
So "The Five Doctors" is where the Fifth Doctor's line "Soon be there." at 0:03 comes from. The line can later be heard again in "The Day of the Doctor" when all the Doctors unite to save Gallifrey.
Andrew Chapman can anyone tell me where this seems to have been filmed? It looks great and I would love to go there
There is an article here that mentions about the location filming on "The Five Doctors":- www.bbc.co.uk/wales/arts/sites/doctor-who-wales/alllocations/llanbedr-cwm-bychan
I noticed that too
Well, it's also an everyday phrase.
@@MaskedMan66 He was referring to the recorded line of dialogue.
0:37 "I'm just gonna back away slowly, and pretend I never saw anything".
Did you completely miss what happened the next second? He was reporting what he saw to the Cyberleader.
There's a version of that scene where the Cyberman goes "Oh!" then backs away.
@L4D2_Ellis He actually says, "Ah," because he's just struck gold on his scouting mission to find the TARDIS crew.
@@MaskedMan66 That makes more sense. It was hard to tell because of the voice synthesizer they used to make the actor sound like a Cyberman.
@@l4d2_ellis20 It was even more fun trying to understand them in Troughton's day. :-)
I really hated how underused Susan was on this. Having her finally return after all those years and literally just put her in the background. And she didn't recognise the Master? Surely she would know her grandfather's arch enemy? And on that subject, did she just call him The Doctor? This is criminal
The Master was used to be called Koschei, as i recall.
Oh, knock it off. She was more comfortable calling this man who looked younger than herself "the Doctor." To her, the old man was "Grandfather." And why would she have even known the Master? He left Gallifrey before the Doctor did, maybe even before Susan was born.
+DaydreamerSoul Never on the show.
The master never fought the doctor when Susan was on the show.
Why *would* she recognize the Master, though? She probably knew him in a previous body, yes, but she's sure as heck never seen the Ainley Master. And though Time Lords usually know each other across regenerations, the fact that the Master is a half-dead thing possessing a Trakenite body might well be messing with that.
Lol, the master mentions the gallifreyan seal that the 3rd took and never gave back to him.
11 refers to it in his last episode.
Soonars and Shara jane her self ( the actor ) toke it home with her as a souvenir
+Charlie Gamage "Soonars?" "Shara?"
@@MaskedMan66 'Soonars' is the name of the OP...
'Shara' is obviously just a typo of 'Sarah'.
@Grizzly01Missed the first one; thanks! As for the second, I always pick on typos. ;-)
He never said he'd give it back to the Master.
"Like Alice, I try to believe three impossible things before breakfast."
I love it when The Doctor says things like this.
In the 10th Anniversary season, Roger Delgado's last episode saw his Master allied with the Daleks. So it's fitting to see Anthony Ainley's Master with the Cybermen for the 20th. Seeing a new Master with the Sontarans, had the classic series continued into its 30th, would have been a good idea too.
Mike Basil or the ice warriors.
@@augie-a3793 Well, this time was Cyberman *and* Daleks
Perhaps it could still happen
I love how the Cybermen were used in this series because there was no way for the production crew to use the Daleks on the rough terrain
No, they used the Cybermen because they wanted to use the Cybermen.
Its always a disappointment that Susan neither called The Doctor "Grandfather" nor yelled or screamed "Grandfather look out" when the cyberment turned up. Even considering her not having seen the Cyberment before,t they were still a group of robot looking beings with guns. That deserved more than standing around calmly with her hands in her coat pocket.
It’s also disappointing considering this canon in the absence of Tom Baker, which was also the most popular Doctor at that time
@@matthewmurdock7329 they tried to get him back, but he said no because he thought he hadn't been gone for long enough to return
@@herbert6655 So lame
@@matthewmurdock7329 Idk its understandable. He did the show for like 8 years and was obviously fed up
@@matthewmurdock7329you try do 7 years of carrying the show and having to put up with JNT’s attitude? I’d like to see you try, then again it’ll be “Lame”
The Master--"I also have a bicycle bell painted gold"
Master: "Perhaps one of your future selves might like to affix it to your antiquated Tardis console."
Doctor: "Now there's no need to be ridiculous."
How do you figure that for a bike bell?
@@MaskedMan66 Exactly, it's just a little rounded box with a button on it, and bike bells tend to have "swivel"-like mechanical motions to make the bell ring. Totally different.
@@Foebane72 Nothing swivels on that device; it looks far more like a compact or maybe a pocket watch. I suspect that the prop actually began life as a pill box.
@@MaskedMan66 I'm talking about actual bike bells, not this prop.
0:04 That line was in the 50th!
I love this, I was a kid at the time and the transmit device is actually an air-freshner from the early eighties just sprayed gold! :)
It looks more bicycle bell and the seal lookslike a compact travel mirror, but then I have seen this loads of times. ;)
Yes, twist to open a small gap all the way around, inside was a smelly gel puk
I freaking love thew cybermen's voices!!!
Me too :) I watch this clip over and over just to hear them
"Excellent"
Same. They actually sound like Doctor Fate from Injustice 2.
When I first started collecting Classic Who, I only got this and "the Beginning" at first. As such I've seen this special nearly 30 times in the last 4 years. I recognized this line in Day of the Doctor pretty much instantly.
"Sorry. Mustache."
YOU HEAR IT, TOO! YOU HEAR IT, TOO!
No, he said, "Must dash."
@@MaskedMan66 You're missing the joke. :)
@@barryguff6893 It's the joke that missed.
Nice to see the Doctor enjoying a bit of moorland for a change instead of the usual gravel quarry.
Isn't Gallifreyam grass red?
i love how the doctor says 'after you' as they run away!
Back when the Cybermen were aliens and weren't always raving on about 'upgrades' and 'delete'.
THANK YOU!
God yes. Modern Cybermen are shit.
Nope. Classic who forgot the story of the Cybermen, turned them into nothing but soldiers.
@@activatehalo7763 Watch "Earthshock." "The Tenth Planet" is referred to. Also, in "Attack of the Cybermen," we return to Telos, the planet visited in "Tomb of the Cybermen." John Nathan-Turner is both praised and mocked for his nostalgic take on the show.
@@MaskedMan66 Doesn't matter, simply going back there does not make the script better.
It's like saying Heaven Sent honored the Timelords just because Gallifrey was in it.
Keep a sharp eye out when Tegan moves, and you'll see a lone Cyberman, supposedly right in the path of where the Doctor and the Master run! This seems to be the only shot that particular one is in!
A main problem with this story was how clueless Susan seems to be about The Master. She seems like just some woman in a mac who happens to be there. No real excitement at seeing her Grandfather or sign of experience gained in travelling with him. She should be leading Tegan not following along like someone with nothing else to do until the next bus comes.
Why should she know the Master? And she was over the moon to see the Doctor again, what are you talking about? And you'll notice that she was the one enjoying the yomp, while Tegan was grousing as usual.
master left gallifrey before she was born, the doctor met the master many incarnations before at the academy
I like the part in the 5 doctors when the killer rabbit kills all the CyberMan at the caves entrance. I guess they didn't have a Holy hand grenade.
Lmao! Omg now I have that image stuck in my head. Welp I'm useless for the next five minutes
Maxime Saindon here the scene....: run away run away ! ua-cam.com/video/b6KqskRp89c/v-deo.html
It's weird hearing Susan not call The Doctor "Grandfather"
Five looks younger than her; she probably felt a bit self-conscious about it.
Happy 50th Anniversary to the Master (1971-2021). 🎊
Yup tissue compression thingy. Also extra dialogue added by the Castallan at the end. I had the VHS tape of this episode and they have added stuff to it.
I wish i had a Tshirt with a photo of Fivey wearing a moustache and written "sorry, moustache!"
"Sorry. Mustache."
I think borrowing the teleport effect from season 4 of Blake's Seven from the ship the Scorpio was awesome in billions of ways
This scene is hilarious....Tegan in her giant yeti coat rolling her eyes...the master in his stupid cloak stroking his stupid tce...no one noticing the fuckin platoon of cybermen....the cybermen's vogon voices.....the master keeling over sideways...the doctor just chucking it away....
Sorry must dash.
I know thats what he said but just for a moment it aounded like he said mustche lol
Cybermen "You Will Accompany Us"
The Doctor "Sorry Must Dash "
There seemed to be three or so groups of Cybs in the Death Zone, it would have been cool if they had different looks from over the then-twenty years...
It was the same platoon spread out.
@@MaskedMan66 I think it was three groups, as we see 3 cyberleaders in this story, each one in command of their own group
@@dimitrius-r5sgamingchannel388 There were only two, and the second one was activated after the first was destroyed.
The cybermen were SO different then to today.
The 5th doctor and The Master are amazing together
I miss this style of cybermen so much....what they did to them in nu Who :(
How the heck did the Doctor miss those big shiny cybermen strolling over the moors ? Lol.
It was in the script.
@@MaskedMan66 You're being a wise ass to a lot of people. Such a waste of energy.
"Sorry, mustache."
So, the Doctor and the Master are talking and Tegan's obviously concerned (and says as such). But then, at some point, she obviously gets really bored, cos both her and Susan clearly look away from the conversation for long enough for all those Cybermen to have advanced as far as they have before Tegan finally glances back at 1:43 and is all like "Oh bugger, I didn't see all those bloody great silver fellas until now!"
Usually Davidson has his arm stuck up a cow when he is standing in a field lol
Mark Symond well he is often asked what kind of Doctor he is, the reply being Every Kind. So it is fitting that after he tired of being a time jumping time lord, he settled on being a Vetnerreeeee !
She simply has never met him before. She didn't mention not sensing that he's a Time Lord.
And since he's wearing a Trakenite body, even the Doctor himself-- in his third form-- didn't realize at first that it was the Master.
The teleport was in the trailer WTTW showed prior to the airing and on first hearing the line I thought The Doctor said, "Sorry, mustache." which naturally made no sense.
Susan is NOT a Time Lord/Lady she ran away before completing her time at the academy.
so?
She is Gallifreyan, she was the first birth since the sterile curse that was placed on the timelords, they have had to use genetics to continue the species during the curse, she was what lifted the curse by being a natural Gallifreyan birth.
DeckThe Lols Citation needed.
+TheRecreator The simple fact that she was a child when she first appeared; she hadn't been anything like long enough in her studies to be close to Time Ladyhood.
Problem with the Dr who story lines is if Susan is a lady then as she's a time lord she can now be a he. So the granddaughter can be a grandson.it much be fun in school having to teach boys to be girls and girls to be boys so when they come back as whatever they will know how to dress etc.
"Sorry mustache." lol (I realize he said "must dash", but "mustache" is funnier.)
Is it me or did that Cyberman show emotions
Despite not having emotions, the Cybermen displayed some during the 1970s and 80s unlike the ones from the 60s and currant show.
Jer
It's you.
@@MaskedMan66 The classic era cybermen were usually way too emotional. It was lazy writing, forgetting what they were.
@@darthmetallus1977 Excuse me, but the Cybermen of the classic era were the real Cybermen. In the post-2005 DW, it was Cybus Men until the genuine article appeared in Capaldi's era. It was not "lazy writing" (a ridiculously-- and usually erroneously-- overused phrase nowadays).
I heard somewhere the 4th dr was to steal the Master,s teleport device and escape the Cybermen
2:45--"Sorry, must dash."
So long, screwborgs!
These cybermen sound exactly like something from Hitchhiker's guide, the leader sounds like deep thought
My dad was a cider man...kept fluffing his lines lol
You mean a Cyberman
0:47 Congratulations, now have a Cookie.
Haha mr.burns cyberman :p
Say what??
The Doctor and The Master should have teamed up to take on The Cybermen.
0:03 they used this exact soundclip in Day of the Doctor.
I liked the cybermen better when their fronts looked like the back of my clothes dryer.
The way the 5th dr teleports away is similar to the teleport used in Blake's Seven in the ship Scorpio in series 4
The Cyber Leader later accuses the Master of betrayal after a group of Cybermen are killed in a booby trap set up by Borusa.
Now that's what I call doctor who!
1:56 Crowning Mulling-About Of Awesome!
the master in this came off kinda count draculish.
Clearly the 5th doctor had really poor vision, he didn't see the cybermen and he didn't notice the Master who sticks out like a sore thumb in his black outfit until he shouted at him
He wasn't looking in that direction.
I think in the Planet of Fire the 5th Doctor is seen wearing his spectacles to examine the wall where the new mismatch gas can come through. In Castrovalva he puts on his specks in the console room to operate the controls.
@@MaskedMan66 Peripheral vision is a thing.
@@barryguff6893 Not when attention is focused. Just roll with it, our kid; this blinking show is forty-one years old, and it's way too late to be whining about it now.
I'd like to see Susan later on doctor who revival?
Sorry must dash!
Gold Yo-yo
Here my version of The Five Doctors: The Fifth Doctor takes Tegan and Susan and ben and polly towards the main gate but encounters the Master, who has no better luck convincing the Fifth Doctor of his bona fides than he had the Third. At that moment, the two are confronted by Cybermen. When they try to run away, the new Master is knocked out by an explosion caused by a Cyber-gun blast. The Fifth Doctor finds the Master's recall device on his unconscious body and transmats himself to the Capitol.
Sorry, mustache.
Sorry, moustache...
That explosion did not even touch the master … just saying 🤷♂️
0:51 CyberMrBurns
Sorry, what?
For some strange reason at 00:03 I hear 'sin midair'
Teleporters are extremely useful
The Master is holding the laser screwdriver o_O
There was no such thing. That's the Tissue Compression Eliminator.
How dim is the Master here? He could have teleported back quite easily
Not unconscious he couldn't.
I meant why bother running, oh why bother at all, Cybermen are so slow and bad marksmen.
Extra dialogue explains why, that’s why it’s been added
Cybermen. Are. Not. Good
I find it strange Susan, a Time Lord herself, doesn't recognize the Master as a Time Lord.
sweiland75 She never said anything about him not being a Time Lord. She just hasn't met him before which is why she asked whether he was a friend or not.
She isn't a Time LADY. And if you watch the rest of the story, the Third Doctor doesn't realize it's him at first either. This is because the Master is wearing a non-Time Lord body.
so purrfect
So that's what yo-yos are for.
How does Susan not know the Master? She literally grew up with the Doctor back on Gallifrey so there’s no way she doesn’t know!
master left gallifrey before she was born, the doctor met the master many incarnations before at the academy
@@daeseongkim93 You got this from the expanded media and based on that... She has met the Master
Well, The Doctor hasn't always recognised The Master. Maybe it's a family thing.
soon be there!
One of those cybermen sounds like Darth Vader.
hahahahah that IS what it sounds like!
0:37 The doctor and the master... Nope.
1:58 lol
I thought the Cybermen were on the Master's side
I like the latest model design of the cybermen better in the modern series. The latest version of the cybermen were seen in the episode "Nightmare in Silver".
Where did the master get his cloak. Before he was transmitted he only wore his usual black outfit but in the death zone he's wearing the cloak. Later in the story the cloak has disappeared again.
Susan should know who the master is though.
Wonder if the Big Finish audio will explain why she doesn't rdcognize him since in that she'll have met him.
Why? He left Gallifrey before she and the Doctor did, maybe even before she was born. And even if she did know him, why would she know him in this form? Even the Doctor (in his third incarnation) didn't realize it was him for a long moment.
Why? The Master left Galifrey before The Doctor. She may not have been born then.
Also, that isn't a regeneration of the Master. He was dying in a failed regeneration and used the powers of the Keeper of Traken to posess the body of Trevas. Other Galifreyans wouldn't instinctively know he was a Timelord.
+CMOT101 Pretty much what I said, though I didn't specifically mention Tremas.
0:41 yes
where does this take place?
In the Death Zone on Gallifrey.
he's just forgetful
In what season does this take place?
Do you remember what th Doctor said about always ignoring the obvious? (The Pandorica Opens) : )
I could see this scene being played a bit more action-y these days...let the Master get a few kills before being overwhelmed.
Alas, ye'olden times had slight budget restraints.
Moustache? Where?!
On the Master.
I still don't understand why it's called The "Five" Doctors when, to the best of my knowledge, I only count 4. Where was Tom Baker's Doctor in all this?
Baker ultimately declined participation so they took footage of him from Shada (unfinished story) and had 4th get stuck in the time vortex so he didn't make it to the Death Zone.
It's called "The Five Doctors" because the first five incarnations of the Doctor are involved.
how did susan not know the master.
Susan asking about "The Doctor" is so weird. I swear it's like this show never took her seriously as his granddaughter. I wish they'd put her in the 60th and finally give her something interesting to do.
You have a very strange sense of humor my friend :)
Shouldn't Susan know the Master
No real reason she should, and certainly not in this form. Even the Third Doctor didn't realize who it was at first.
I doubt she would recognize him. He's possessing a Trakenite body after all and it's been several decades at least since she last saw him if the Master and Doctor didn't have a falling out first.
The hottest doctor
She looks just like the chick in "Fight Club."
She who?