How to Use a LOGLINE to Diagnose Story Problems | Helpful Writing Exercise!

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  • @tipau
    @tipau Місяць тому +1

    Very helpful! 'When work-focused Nick’s structured life is disrupted by headstrong Holly, he must navigate their growing connection while maintaining professional boundaries-or risk his career and a chance at love.'

  • @carlacraft2987
    @carlacraft2987 Місяць тому

    Very helpful. Thank you, Claire for giving a clear tutorial though you said it wasn't to learn how to write a logline but it did help.

  • @Ali_Saracen
    @Ali_Saracen Місяць тому +2

    My novel Red Glass contains multiple character pov's but this is my attempt at the description :
    Tormented by the slaughter of his family, Rohain is clawed into a secret war between those of the moon and the immortals. Daniella, unable to live a prisoner any longer, escapes into a frozen world more terrifying and cruel than she had ever imagined. He is all that can save humanity but can she convince him that it's worth saving before the dead rise again?

  • @wesila-news
    @wesila-news Місяць тому

    Great and useful channel, thank you very much

  • @Ali_Saracen
    @Ali_Saracen Місяць тому

    This video is EXACTLY what I needed. I've written a very deep, complex, moving story with multiple characters but trying to explain what the story is about has been impossible without spoilers. Thankyou

  • @jeroenf1848
    @jeroenf1848 Місяць тому

    I subscribed a while ago, and your channel has been the most helpful, practical, and inspiring for me. It’s no wonder-your books are breathtaking in a wonderfully scary and chilling way, just how I like it. 😈💕 Thank you for sharing your art and skills with us!

    • @WritewithClaireFraise
      @WritewithClaireFraise  Місяць тому

      This comment made my day!! Thank you so much for subscribing and reading. I'm so happy you have enjoyed my videos and books 😄👻

  • @sallyalter6003
    @sallyalter6003 Місяць тому +2

    Thanks for the video. I find all your videos very helpful.

  • @TheBirtch
    @TheBirtch Місяць тому +2

    This was very helpful thank you for sharing.
    "Years after Clair's best friend is murdered, the Same "stain" she saw on that day returns. She must overcome her fear of magic in a race against time to prove who killed her."

    • @WritewithClaireFraise
      @WritewithClaireFraise  Місяць тому +1

      Great pitch! Would love to know more about the "stain" and how it relates to the murder-interesting detail. Maybe you could make the description of the stain more visual?

  • @SveaRC
    @SveaRC Місяць тому +1

    This seems really helpful. But I find it hard to apply this to my fantasy romance story. Because the Want and the Stakes in my story are very much bound to the outer story as opposed to the inner story, the character development, the love story. Especially in the beginning. Therefore, the resulting logline doesn't sound like a romance. 😅 So I think this works great when it comes to the plot, not so much for character arcs.

    • @WritewithClaireFraise
      @WritewithClaireFraise  Місяць тому +2

      I totally understand how it can be tricky for romantasy, or more complex epic fantasy. The only romantasy book I’ve read is Fourth Wing. I tried to sketch out a rough logline for it, working in the overall plot and the romance, and came up with this:
      When nineteen year old Violet Soringale enrolls in a super dangerous dragon riding academy, she has to overcome her disability making her a target and the sexy son of a rebel who hates her and whose onyx eyes she just can’t get out of her head to survive the dangerous school or else she will die and dishonor her entire family.
      Is there any way you could do something similar for your story? Have the want and stakes be part of the main plot, but throw in a line about the sexy love interest to signal it’s a romantasy?

    • @WritewithClaireFraise
      @WritewithClaireFraise  Місяць тому

      (I don’t remember all the details about Fourth Wing so forgive me if I didn’t get them right 😂)

  • @markorr7125
    @markorr7125 Місяць тому

    In the story I am writing what the main characters want and what they need are different things. That is part of the obstacle.

    • @WritewithClaireFraise
      @WritewithClaireFraise  Місяць тому

      @@markorr7125 That is exactly as it should be! The want should always be different from the need. That is the secret to making an ending satisfying 😄

  • @WordAte
    @WordAte Місяць тому +1

    While the main plot fits neatly into my logline, the subplots do not. Those subplots are there to support the narration of the main plot. So I do not think they need to be in there. But I will find a way to add a sentence that will capture the subplots too.

    • @5Gburn
      @5Gburn Місяць тому +1

      The logline isn't meant to capture subplots--in fact, they detract from the logline. Weave them into your back cover blurb instead.

    • @WritewithClaireFraise
      @WritewithClaireFraise  Місяць тому +1

      I agree with @5Gburn -- focus on your main plot in the pitch! Trying to add too much information to your pitch will make it confusing.

    • @WordAte
      @WordAte Місяць тому

      Thanks@@WritewithClaireFraise and @5gburn. I appreciate the advice.

  • @xbpodcast2024
    @xbpodcast2024 Місяць тому

    I'm writing a prequel and I'm struggling where to put the inciting incident. Until which chapter (Ch1, Ch2 etc.) is it ideal to place your inciting incident?

    • @WritewithClaireFraise
      @WritewithClaireFraise  Місяць тому +1

      I usually try to put mine at the end of chapter 1 if I can! This makes for a great first chapter cliffhanger and hook into the rest of the book.

    • @xbpodcast2024
      @xbpodcast2024 Місяць тому

      @@WritewithClaireFraise Thank you, I'll experiment a bit with it.

    • @Ali_Saracen
      @Ali_Saracen Місяць тому

      @@xbpodcast2024 In Rocky 1, the inciting incident hapens very late after much character establishment, maybe a later inciting incident can benefit your story more than an earlier one but if it's later, you must know how to keep readers engaged long enough. The better place is sooner rather than later but just focus on bring creative, you can always cut/edit later.