I am Brazilian and here in Brazil we speak Portuguese. And the word for "God" in Portuguese is called "Deus"... I've always found interesting a game have written Deus Ex ... The capitalized form of the word Deus as the diminutive, symbolizing gods, deities generally originates from the term Latin for Deus, divinity or deity. Portuguese is the only neo-Latin Romance language that kept the term in its original form with the end of the noun in "us", unlike the Spanish "Dios", French "Dieu", Italian "Dio" and Romanian, a language that distinguishes "Dumnezeu", creator monotheistic and "Zeu", It is idolized. I really like the Deus Ex franchise and found interesting in this game have a word for other current languages sounds like something from another world, and the Portuguese-speaking is something so normal.
2:00 This explanation is basically correct. It is "derived" in some sense from Greek, but the words, themselves, are actually Latin. I think most people will come to believe, from what he says, that the words are Greek, if they don't know better. I think he could have been much clearer in explaining it, to avoid this confusion. Also, unless something has changed recently, people aren't entirely sure how Latin was pronounced, when it was actually spoken by commoners in the Roman empire. It was so long ago -- centuries (a millennium?) before the invention of sound recording and playback. So, the best that people of today have to go off of, for understanding how the words were pronounced, are things like rhyme in poetry. But the current academic pronunciation is, indeed, "day-us ex [mak-ee-nuh]", unless something has changed, since I took Latin in the early 2000's.
Warren Spector already answered to the question "why is the game named Deus Ex" and it's a direct reference to the idea of creating your own god with technology (god from the machine), the Helios ending of DX1. Also, this ending seems to come out of nowhere. "You will soon have your God, and you will make it with your own hands." --Morpheus (A.I.)
The phrase comes from ancient Greek, when it referred to the flying gods who appeared in the ancient drama plays, played throughout theaters in ancient Greece. Indeed it signified the intervention, when it was least expected, that would save the protagonists from their ordeal. This phrase was taken by the romans and the phrase here is latin (deus ex machina), not greek, but it has the exact same meaning. The ancient Greek phrase is still widely used, unchanged, in modern Greek.
Nice to see Cam in DX official video :D The guy on the street who got it right might have been Polish - he sorta sounded like that + he didnt say da-yus-ex (which is how English people pronounce mostly) + it's very easy for Poles to pronounce Deus Ex.
The Deus Ex Machina actually rescued many moments from TV series. Whenever I think "Well that was obvious, why did the protagonist survive?" I remind myself of the Deus Ex Machina and that this already was a thing in ancient Greece. So that's a thing.
What Deus Ex means to me? I can't believe I literally looked over every title for 27 years, until a month ago playing DXMD. Can't wait to play the rest, even DXIW
This isn't CamAndSeb I was reading on their comments section that they were killed in an Ostrich riding accident months ago. . . I suspect that someone may have hacked their account or something.
I hope that what I read is just a rumor but not a word from them in 3 months makes me wonder I mean if I had 30k plus people who cared enough to just want to hear my voice I'd be letting them know I was alive.
"If videogames are ever to be considered a high art they should start asking some big philosophical questions. Deus ex, for example, asks if it is ppssible to wear sunglasses and a coat without looking like a comlete ponce" - Ben "Yahtzee" Croshaw (dont remember the exact words)
I didn't know it was that hard to pronounce until I heard Mack call it "Doos ex" over and over without a hint of irony. Although I do know sometimes people would mishear it. I remember freaking out a teenagers parents once because they thought I was talking about a game called "Day of sex." And I'd say the reasoning for the game being called Deus Ex was pretty clear. You're character is a Deus Ex machina within the story and the plots in the games take the idea of a "God out of a Machine" quite literally what with Hyron and Helios and all that.
when i was little kid i never had problems with pronouncing Deus ex, i was reading this like a regular Polish word from book, i didnt even know it was Latin but when i hear someone non european people(or native eanglish users) tries to pronounce it like eanglish word i cant stop lough :D it sounds more like "DeYOus ex" :DDD
I knew it ! Haha,so excited for the game.I hope you guys did a great job like with Human Revolution and let's hope it can keep up with the first one aswell :)
A few things I know on this subject: 1. It's a fact that Warren Spector's original intention behind the title was a riff against most video-game stories at the time, basically saying they rely on poor storytelling tropes and his game Deus Ex (2000) was attempting to subvert that. 2. Just to be clear, while the phrase originated from ancient Greece, "apò mēkhanês theós", the words "Deus Ex Machina" are Latin, from ancient Rome. 3. I guess Spector ditched "Machine" to make it a clean and simple title for a game series, so it's just: "Deus Ex". So, the game series we all know and love is actually called: "From God."
The most cool example comes from Person of Interest....where the machine is god like and saves people...they even have a episode named Deus Ex Machina.....Also I think there is one episode named the same in Lost too.
That’s why English is so hard for Slavs, because of its pronociation, we always read as it spelled. For us “e” is “e”, not “i”; “i” is “i”, not “ai”.; “a” is “a”, not “ei” etc.
Love how they went to England to ask for the correct pronunciation of a latin phrase and the only person to get it right in the video was not from England. Probably 100% intentional for the goof factor. :-)
I personally feel like the reason why it is called Deus Ex is that you play as the Deus Ex Machina. The world is in dire situations, you come in as part man and part machine and save the world.
I still think that the right answer is that "Deus Ex Machina" must be interpreted more straight at this point and refers to cyborgs as superhumans, "gods", which got their power out of machines ("ex machina"), or maybe even "God out of people", where Deus Ex simply stands for "God out of".
That one moment when is nice that you speak a latin language and pronouncing Deus Ex is one simple task.What is so hard to realize that Deus ex machina refers to the improving of the human condition through technology...the same thing that happens in-game.Thats why the game is called Deus Ex.
My most hyped and looked forward to game of the YEAR, CAN'T WAIT FO DIS SHEET TO DROP!!! Come on AUGust!! Now I know why they delayed the release to AUGust, smart sons of beetches.
Can't wait for this game, just to get immeresed back in the atmosphere in Day of Sex once again, Human Revolution was a masterpiece in my own opinion and from what I've seen, this can only be better.
"Fantastic, now we know how to say 'Deus Ex,' correctly." Do we? Because he said "day oos" and you said "day us" which is literally what I came here to find out, which of those was correct.
I used to pronounce it "Doos Ex" for many years as a kid. First time I heard the correct pronunciation was from a high school buddy, and I basically asked him what in the world he was doing playing a game called "Day of Sex," then cracked up when he explained what he meant.
The guy that correctly said Deus Ex was so obviously Polish. I could say "a Slav" but Poles are most prominent Slavs in London. In Polish, you can't say Deus Ex wrong, even if you don't know what it means. Probably every Germanic derived language native speaker would said Deus Ex wrong, as we seen here.
You got something wrong in your explanation. Deus ex machina only applies to situations that are not predetermined. The person or event that creates the solution must be random or unexpected. i.e. The floor breaks and the villain falls to his death = deus ex machina. A character who is left for dead (but not killed) and comes back to save the day at the last second = not deus ex machina. This is instead called a "successful plot twist" because we can expect that the character being left alive has a chance to return later in the story.
Isn't Adam (named after a Bible character, hmmmm) supposed to be the guy who miraculously saves the world, thereby eventuating a Deus Ex Machina? I'd be disappointed if that wasn't the case. Even in Mankind Divided he says "I thought I could save the world. Now look at it." so he does want to save the world, that being his end goal. I think defeating the Illuminati or at least compelling them to do good would be the Deus Ex Machina and thus the end of the game. I really really hope the series doesn't end here, Square Enix cannot do this to us. Mankind Divided had glorious gameplay and a phenomenal sountrack. Feeding us bits and pieces of the story was just cruel.
How do you pronounce Deus Ex? Hell if I know Pritchard. Hell if I know.
I never asked for this pronunciation...
I am Brazilian and here in Brazil we speak Portuguese. And the word for "God" in Portuguese is called "Deus"... I've always found interesting a game have written Deus Ex ... The capitalized form of the word Deus as the diminutive, symbolizing gods, deities generally originates from the term Latin for Deus, divinity or deity. Portuguese is the only neo-Latin Romance language that kept the term in its original form with the end of the noun in "us", unlike the Spanish "Dios", French "Dieu", Italian "Dio" and Romanian, a language that distinguishes "Dumnezeu", creator monotheistic and "Zeu", It is idolized. I really like the Deus Ex franchise and found interesting in this game have a word for other current languages sounds like something from another world, and the Portuguese-speaking is something so normal.
I like it where most developers wouldn't give a shit you guys just embrace the meme!
Deus Ex is latin, and you ask english people?
Do you have Latin in your school curriculum? Et moverem caput meum, fam
+Jackald carpe diem, bitch LOL
Romance languages, dude. Any italian, spanish, portuguese, etc, speaker can pronounce it properly, ask them.
I am also sure that any person speaking any slavic language could spell it right aswell.
+IXAJR yep slavs can spell it with no problem
Deus - God
Ex - "a former husband, wife, or partner in a relationship"
Conclusion: Deus Ex - It's a game about God's ex-girlfriend (⌐■_■)
Win
Ugh it's latin, it means God from. It is part of an expression- Deus ex Machina. It means God from the machine and is a literary device.
+r3dd3v1lL || If you look up, you can see the joke flying over your head
thanks for the laugh 😅
'Ex' just means former, passed or dead lol.
Hey it's Cam Fraz Rob (formerly of Gamespot's reality check). Nice to see him in a video again.
Yeah, loved his vids there
2:00 This explanation is basically correct. It is "derived" in some sense from Greek, but the words, themselves, are actually Latin. I think most people will come to believe, from what he says, that the words are Greek, if they don't know better. I think he could have been much clearer in explaining it, to avoid this confusion. Also, unless something has changed recently, people aren't entirely sure how Latin was pronounced, when it was actually spoken by commoners in the Roman empire. It was so long ago -- centuries (a millennium?) before the invention of sound recording and playback. So, the best that people of today have to go off of, for understanding how the words were pronounced, are things like rhyme in poetry. But the current academic pronunciation is, indeed, "day-us ex [mak-ee-nuh]", unless something has changed, since I took Latin in the early 2000's.
Ha, my polish pronunciation was correct the whole time.
Warren Spector already answered to the question "why is the game named Deus Ex" and it's a direct reference to the idea of creating your own god with technology (god from the machine), the Helios ending of DX1. Also, this ending seems to come out of nowhere.
"You will soon have your God, and you will make it with your own hands." --Morpheus (A.I.)
All russians know how to pronounce "Deus ex".
this video felt more like a PlayStation Access video
В такие моменты понимаешь, на сколько хорош русский язык.
Согласен
Да сучка, да!
не могу не согласиться
при чем тут русский, какая разница, ты по русски скажи деус екс, тоже секс выходит
Самое смешное, но я с самого начала называл эту игру правильно, в отличии от носителей языка.
Finally You two together again and it's awesome, more please :-)
That was a nice little video. Can't wait for the day it comes out!
I don't understand how someone can not know how to pronounce the title
I call bull! ;dP
*Edit*: bt, 4 real
And finally the debate has been settled. Thank you.
The phrase comes from ancient Greek, when it referred to the flying gods who appeared in the ancient drama plays, played throughout theaters in ancient Greece. Indeed it signified the intervention, when it was least expected, that would save the protagonists from their ordeal. This phrase was taken by the romans and the phrase here is latin (deus ex machina), not greek, but it has the exact same meaning. The ancient Greek phrase is still widely used, unchanged, in modern Greek.
Nice to see Cam in DX official video :D The guy on the street who got it right might have been Polish - he sorta sounded like that + he didnt say da-yus-ex (which is how English people pronounce mostly) + it's very easy for Poles to pronounce Deus Ex.
1:31
That's it, go home.
Scrub Wave lol
I can't believe no-one added "Stay thirsty my friends"
The Deus Ex Machina actually rescued many moments from TV series.
Whenever I think "Well that was obvious, why did the protagonist survive?" I remind myself of the Deus Ex Machina and that this already was a thing in ancient Greece. So that's a thing.
Every time something like that happens in a TV show I just sit there going "Deus Ex Machina", helps me not got as annoyed lmao
What Deus Ex means to me? I can't believe I literally looked over every title for 27 years, until a month ago playing DXMD. Can't wait to play the rest, even DXIW
it's like watching your non-asian friends try to read the "Learn Chinese" things on fortune cookies
My theory is that the title is a direct reference to Daedalus springing you from your cell in the original game about 1/3rd of the way through.
My question is why does this video look better than the game, even though I'm playing it on the same system.
7 people don't know how to pronounce Deus Ex.
cam and seb?
WHAT WHERE
This isn't CamAndSeb I was reading on their comments section that they were killed in an Ostrich riding accident months ago. . . I suspect that someone may have hacked their account or something.
I hope that what I read is just a rumor but not a word from them in 3 months makes me wonder I mean if I had 30k plus people who cared enough to just want to hear my voice I'd be letting them know I was alive.
Already had been posted? ua-cam.com/video/sW9cmARl8uk/v-deo.html&lc=z12hfrmqmqz2ttgon04ccz1resr3trqwmuw0k
"If videogames are ever to be considered a high art they should start asking some big philosophical questions.
Deus ex, for example, asks if it is ppssible to wear sunglasses and a coat without looking like a comlete ponce"
- Ben "Yahtzee" Croshaw (dont remember the exact words)
I didn't know it was that hard to pronounce until I heard Mack call it "Doos ex" over and over without a hint of irony. Although I do know sometimes people would mishear it. I remember freaking out a teenagers parents once because they thought I was talking about a game called "Day of sex."
And I'd say the reasoning for the game being called Deus Ex was pretty clear. You're character is a Deus Ex machina within the story and the plots in the games take the idea of a "God out of a Machine" quite literally what with Hyron and Helios and all that.
I was curious about this too nice video
I'm Russian, I can easily pronounce it because Latin and Russian language have an almost the same pronunciation.
"they use sex", because of all the gratuitous sex scenes that appear in the series
Bravo, the best there is!
when i was little kid i never had problems with pronouncing Deus ex, i was reading this like a regular Polish word from book, i didnt even know it was Latin but when i hear someone non european people(or native eanglish users) tries to pronounce it like eanglish word i cant stop lough :D
it sounds more like "DeYOus ex" :DDD
I knew it ! Haha,so excited for the game.I hope you guys did a great job like with Human Revolution and let's hope it can keep up with the first one aswell :)
De-Us-Ex. People who say Deuce Sex stress me out.
A few things I know on this subject:
1. It's a fact that Warren Spector's original intention behind the title was a riff against most video-game stories at the time, basically saying they rely on poor storytelling tropes and his game Deus Ex (2000) was attempting to subvert that.
2. Just to be clear, while the phrase originated from ancient Greece, "apò mēkhanês theós", the words "Deus Ex Machina" are Latin, from ancient Rome.
3. I guess Spector ditched "Machine" to make it a clean and simple title for a game series, so it's just: "Deus Ex". So, the game series we all know and love is actually called: "From God."
I got the pronunciation right but my sister always tries to annoy me by pronouncing it as 'do sex' lol. I'm always just like -_-
Деус Экс Манкинд Дивайдед
Pretty neat video. Can't wait for the game!
The most cool example comes from Person of Interest....where the machine is god like and saves people...they even have a episode named Deus Ex Machina.....Also I think there is one episode named the same in Lost too.
I knew all of this already. Do I win an internet cookie?
Funny how English native speakers have problems with this, while in many other languages its absolutely easy to pronounce.
wait till you get Diabolus ex Machina, which cyberpunk 2077 gonna be
That’s why English is so hard for Slavs, because of its pronociation, we always read as it spelled. For us “e” is “e”, not “i”; “i” is “i”, not “ai”.; “a” is “a”, not “ei” etc.
I think that for us is so easy to read english etc. but for english speakers is hard just to say DEUS or read like it's written.
We are augmented.
i pronounce this as " dey uhs ex", same as guy at 1:34 :v
Yeah but we can't write it as "Dey or day" because it's just "De us ex"
2:13 I never thought what they taught us in school would be useful. Now I can go about and bragging to everyone that I know what the name means :3
I didn't think people couldn't pronounce that... Oh well
Is that the guy from the reality check videos?cam was it?
Дэус экс
Love how they went to England to ask for the correct pronunciation of a latin phrase and the only person to get it right in the video was not from England. Probably 100% intentional for the goof factor. :-)
Do Sex..... oh man come on! xD
I called it Deuce Ex for years until a few years ago, haha.
They should make a movie franchise on these games.
I personally feel like the reason why it is called Deus Ex is that you play as the Deus Ex Machina.
The world is in dire situations, you come in as part man and part machine and save the world.
Is Cliff Stephens onboard as Bob Page again? He's so very good! Cheers!
Now I just want to pronounce it "Juice Eggs"...
whooooooo the hype train is chugging! I can't wait for this gane
First time i heard about it. a friend was telling us about it. We all thought he said "this great new game called gay sex".
when i say legend of korra, hardcore fans knows that.
Oh my its Cam and Seb from Skyrim mods
I still think that the right answer is that "Deus Ex Machina" must be interpreted more straight at this point and refers to cyborgs as superhumans, "gods", which got their power out of machines ("ex machina"), or maybe even "God out of people", where Deus Ex simply stands for "God out of".
Деус Экс, for russian gamers this is easy )
Too bad all you need to defeat him is a glitchy metro system.
I miss these two :( ! are they still in Gamespot ? haven't seen them in months !
That one moment when is nice that you speak a latin language and pronouncing Deus Ex is one simple task.What is so hard to realize that Deus ex machina refers to the improving of the human condition through technology...the same thing that happens in-game.Thats why the game is called Deus Ex.
Деус экс помоему)
My most hyped and looked forward to game of the YEAR, CAN'T WAIT FO DIS SHEET TO DROP!!! Come on AUGust!! Now I know why they delayed the release to AUGust, smart sons of beetches.
Can't wait for this game, just to get immeresed back in the atmosphere in Day of Sex once again, Human Revolution was a masterpiece in my own opinion and from what I've seen, this can only be better.
HYPED!
1:36 Finally a person that knows latin!
I am from the Czech Republic :D I hope you show my country great in the game :D not incorrect bullshits like we are Russia etc :D
I always thought Deus Ex, while referred to Deus Ex Machina, perhaps it also meant Without God.
1:45 This part made my day haha
Also, it's Latin, not Greek. It refers to a mechanic used in Greek theater, but the phrase itself is Latin.
"Fantastic, now we know how to say 'Deus Ex,' correctly."
Do we? Because he said "day oos" and you said "day us" which is literally what I came here to find out, which of those was correct.
I first thought it was Deuce Ex (doo-say) and then Duhzz ayy (deux-z- ayy).
Before settling on Deus Ex. God from the machine
For me it's unimaginable that I wouldn't know how to spell that. lel
Cam and Seb! Knew you when you were just a babby at VG Seb haha
I used to pronounce it "Doos Ex" for many years as a kid. First time I heard the correct pronunciation was from a high school buddy, and I basically asked him what in the world he was doing playing a game called "Day of Sex," then cracked up when he explained what he meant.
It's really is for swedish people as it sounds exactly like its written, if that makes any sense.
I want a game about a Dog from the Machine.
Still have trouble saying it, have to keep myself from making the same error.
1:32 парень мне почему то напоминает русского по произношению))))
I'd say the name comes from man playing god
Cam and Seb! WOOOO!
I love this developer. Fun guys and great deus ex games.
The guy that correctly said Deus Ex was so obviously Polish. I could say "a Slav" but Poles are most prominent Slavs in London. In Polish, you can't say Deus Ex wrong, even if you don't know what it means. Probably every Germanic derived language native speaker would said Deus Ex wrong, as we seen here.
It's latin lol.Ask it in my country (Turkey), everyone will pronounce it as it's written = Voila!
aaaah yes Cam and Seb.... Perfect
I´m not certain if i asked for this but... what the hell?, we´re so close to August 23rd anyway
I always said it as Deuce X.
1:31 о русский
РУССКИЕ ВПЕРЁД!
РУССКИЕ ВПЕРЁД!
РУССКИЕ ВПЕРЁД!
Easy for Russians. Дэус Экс!
1:49 *does the glasses thing*
You got something wrong in your explanation. Deus ex machina only applies to situations that are not predetermined. The person or event that creates the solution must be random or unexpected.
i.e. The floor breaks and the villain falls to his death = deus ex machina.
A character who is left for dead (but not killed) and comes back to save the day at the last second = not deus ex machina. This is instead called a "successful plot twist" because we can expect that the character being left alive has a chance to return later in the story.
Anyone want to pre-order my pre-order of the pre-order of my pre-order of me caring about the game?
Still haven't even started human revolution..
isnt Deus Ex latin though? That has not been a spoken language for centuries.
Yassss i was saying it right the whole time.
Isn't Adam (named after a Bible character, hmmmm) supposed to be the guy who miraculously saves the world, thereby eventuating a Deus Ex Machina? I'd be disappointed if that wasn't the case. Even in Mankind Divided he says "I thought I could save the world. Now look at it." so he does want to save the world, that being his end goal. I think defeating the Illuminati or at least compelling them to do good would be the Deus Ex Machina and thus the end of the game.
I really really hope the series doesn't end here, Square Enix cannot do this to us.
Mankind Divided had glorious gameplay and a phenomenal sountrack. Feeding us bits and pieces of the story was just cruel.
Day-Eus Ex.