I think it is well known and accepted by most fans of the books written by Horace Silver that there is a mix of thinly veiled true stories and characters and pretty obvious fictional stories and characters that are a perhaps mash up of several real people. Some of the fictional stories are fictional in the sense that they happened during a different era and were carried out by other people, so could never have been Billy Abrahams and the Firm, but the reason they are included I think is as a signal to the underworld that the author knows his subject, so is a "proper person", and to dovetail an earlier era to a newer era. No one I have ever discussed these books with thinks that what Horace Silver writes is gospel, but the reason his books are intriguing and continue to ignite debate is because there is a puzzle there to be solved for the lay person, and you have to dig through the fiction to get to the truth, but the intended audience, i.e. the Firm and their victims know which bits are true, and that was Horace Silver's intention in his guerrilla war.
Yea 100%, he was wiv the DH and the others so you know he knows alot, but the book was aimed as a fuck you to them and anyone else he doesn't like, he got the intended reaction, were all talking now 😂 trying to figure out what's true and what's not
Brilliant yammy my brother always got a great way of projecting your genuine stories. Admire your respect for things not to be mentioned your a good guy and great to see you shine your yammy light again my good man. Have a decent evening mate👊✌️❤️
several firms from South London put it on JH one from Brixton smashed up a boozer he had with bats and a pair of brothers used to have great fun eyeballing him in a Gypsy Hill drinking club like something out of a western. Faces that knew both didnt know which end of the bar to to talk too and were always waiting for it to kick off.
On fine form Yammy, good to see you well and doing good. Got your heating on ?, Me and the Mrs are wearing hats indoors at the moment as well! Best wishes as always 💪♥️🙏♥️
hi samson hope you are all good mate,your short stroies are so much better,you get right to the point,well done you always so much love,gary and haley x x x x
Having read Judas Pig, I've gotta say it's an interesting read Yammy, regardless of whether it's a all a load of BS. Sorry for asking but where's the Lee M part 2, I for one have really been looking forward to this. All the best 👊🏻
Yeah, pinball murder was Nicky Gerrard and George Bradshaw, but sure Bradshaw turned QE, which didn’t go too well for him cos he got life and Gerrard and “club owner” got not guilty 😂 Way back early 70’s too.
I haven't read it, I see his interview thing .that didn't hit me how it hit many. Darkly lit and a bit theatrical. Book was written for more than one reason ,is what many seem to forget. There's a fella now who has millions believing ALL of what he says tateworm he's called Media can be PhowaFul I'll still read it one day . Givvus a twos on it Yam 😆 never heard of it , I never heard it talked of n it weren't in the library .In fairness to Holmes many liked to leave a pub 🙈 Anyway, good to see you Sam L8r yeah
abit unrelated but in judas pig he talks about his childhood briefly, and theres a part about him going to playland arcade the notorious pedophile den in soho, where nonces would pimp out young runaways,,, its one of the only 2 documented accounts of someones personal experience at playland that i can find, the other one being anthony daleys book 'playland-the forgotten scandal'. the small part about him going to playland in judas pig really caught me off guard because id not long read anthony daleys account and did abit of research about it just out of curiosity, and there it was again -playland-,,, makes me sure theres gotta be bits of truth hidden in the book
Yammy at start of jp it says it’s a work of fiction. Jimmy Holmes mixes things up and makes out he’s done things to people to get back at them through the book. The Nicky Gerard shooting was put in there to try and tie someone else to Gerard’s murder
💯👊❤️yes alan what’s the point in people reading the book when all he’s doing is getting back at people brother 👊uncle yammy knows the truth I got more brother
@@yammybtv I do believe a lot of the book is true but definitely had made up/mixed up alot of the things that went on as we say to get back at people and also to not put himself in the frame for certain crimes
@@yammybtv also a lot of people read and like the book because it’s actually a good read and quite funny. You should read mate, give you a full idea of what people are talking about
@theenquirer1.0 I think most people understand and accept the book is a work of fiction as it’s stated at the start, and like you say with a lot of truth put in but mixed to definitely protect himself. But check out legacy as well. The subject of the books brother even says the book was a book of truth in a police interview! So who knows. Only two people actually know the truth and that’s the subject of the book and the author. And both are going to have their own agenda. But it’s very entertaining read
@theenquirer1.0 oh I believe that about journalists mate. I also know people close to the story. So it’s important to hear from both sides but understand that it’s all to be taken with a pinch of salt. As criminals and authors like everyone have their own opinion and reason for telling the story. None of us were there so who knows
Yanmy , would you ever get back into crime? Have you been tempted? or as anybody influenced you since you’ve been out? Was is it absolute necessary to carry weapons at all times? as previously mentioned in one of your videos. How did you & Pat Tate become good friends? Is Pat’s character, anything like you saw in Rise Of The Foot Soldiers? How did you & Lee Murray become friends out of interest. I heard Guy Ritchie is making a film about Lee. Thanks Yammy
Tony I haven’t committed one crime in 3 years brother 🙏❤️I don’t even think about it I absolutely regret wasting my whole life it was necessary Tony to carry weapons I lived on the edge to much and some dangerous places and people ❤️💯👊
NOT VERY GOOD HERE SAMMY, MONDAY MORNING @07:30am, THE HIGHER POWER PRESENTED ME WITH A HEART ATTACK, AND I HAVE HAD A STENT FITTED, SO THIS MAN HERE @49 YEARS OLD HAS TO SLOW DOWN, HOPE YOUR WELL SAMMY 👍🏼👊🏼🙏🏼
Fucking hell Yammy I need MI5 codebreakers help to find out what's going on here, lol only messing around I get what your saying mate. Love your content Yammy all the best love from London and Dublin X
Roy Shaw was supposed to be looking for davey hunt to straighten him out for threatening a 'friend' of his, hunt heard about this and at some point clocked shaw getting out of his car, went over to him and shoved a sawn off into his chest and let roy know what the score was, roy understandably shit his pants and wanted no part of the long fella
@@yammybtv Bill the Bomb. Passed away 2nd April 2012 of meningitis. Bill was out with his Son at the Beckton Arms when he complained of not feeling well. He was taken to Newham hospital, but was taken home where he died at 4am.
I knew this was going to be a good one when I saw “Holmes” in the title.Any thoughts on his online interview? How he comes across,how accurate his opinion are,etc? Also,what about Liam Smith? Did not see THAT coming 👊
To me ,that interview didn't sit right. Like u say, his opinions is what got me thinking. Tbh I never knew about his book .1 moment I was thinking this is some agent or actor. Anyway, let's see if Tammy's gonna comment his thoughts. All the best MR S
Sam I just did a little justice for the 97 ting on some News your in .. Hope u ok I watch little right now I'm perplexed but u keep it the Fuck real Son ..... Who did u have for the fight last wknd!!? x
@@yammybtv ONTHEBIBLE Sam I just saw Liam in Town 1st ever time he ain't tall but he's a Handsome Cunt with his Fancy "FLANS" bag .. Cracker bit of Scouser him Sam x
I was banged up in highpoint in 93 and next door was jimmy holmes(presume it's the same one)be he was out of brixton..which made me wonder...but he was having with a blonde fella called Billy gale in there...am I mistaken ???
@@stephenbrown7843 Any other stories to tell about Jimmy H in prison?? Hid book 'The Charity Committee' was about his time in prison for mortgage fraud, probably around that time, and there is a character called Rasher that people have struggled to identify, old school, was big in the puff game but started out in protection and part of "The Hole in the Wall Gang" ripping ATMs out of walls. Jimmy says himself that he only did time for relatively minor offences.
@@stephenbrown7843 Was the Jimmy Holmes you knew in Highpoint the same person as the Jimmy Holmes in this video? ua-cam.com/video/PXwdxBjdVlM/v-deo.html
Whats all this? Lots of criminals talking about criminal stuff or something? I don't understand half of whats being said, but apparntly a large number of my 'subscribers' 200, also watch this....
Do you think that Holmes was working for Palmer early doors? In the late eighties in my late teens I worked for a couple of fellas involved in the porn video game, just picking up and dropping off tamper proof parcels on a bike. Anyway I was at a meet where these fellas were discussing a deal for Palmers Soho interests which he was selling for ten million and I wondered if Holmes was referring to JP in his book, everyone in this story have passed on so didn't think it would hurt to ask.
When I see Holmes talking about his moving and running with Canning town elite he was talking of times I'm aware of. I took it with a bag of salt . First names n nicknames and a way of knowing who was new n a random regularity of rituals places n ways things went after a Ching bar years , you'd start2be a little aware of ways, who's n where's n relevance of what could of been mistook for a joke.. Everyone had their part n there'd be a time n places to let your hair down so to spk n mingle (it really happened slowly) my point being is his ,'j Holmes portrayal didn't sit right
I heard Bill The Bomb was stabbed in the heart in the Greyhound at Plaistow once he was picking on a couple of geezers and they stabbed him is that true ? The Shawey thing sounds believable.
I like the "if you know what I mean" which we think we do 🤣 but at same time I'm like ...do I🤔🤣
I think it is well known and accepted by most fans of the books written by Horace Silver that there is a mix of thinly veiled true stories and characters and pretty obvious fictional stories and characters that are a perhaps mash up of several real people. Some of the fictional stories are fictional in the sense that they happened during a different era and were carried out by other people, so could never have been Billy Abrahams and the Firm, but the reason they are included I think is as a signal to the underworld that the author knows his subject, so is a "proper person", and to dovetail an earlier era to a newer era.
No one I have ever discussed these books with thinks that what Horace Silver writes is gospel, but the reason his books are intriguing and continue to ignite debate is because there is a puzzle there to be solved for the lay person, and you have to dig through the fiction to get to the truth, but the intended audience, i.e. the Firm and their victims know which bits are true, and that was Horace Silver's intention in his guerrilla war.
Yea 100%, he was wiv the DH and the others so you know he knows alot, but the book was aimed as a fuck you to them and anyone else he doesn't like, he got the intended reaction, were all talking now 😂 trying to figure out what's true and what's not
I think u got a lot of that over well.
Okay 👌
I think it was so if he's questioned by the police about certain things he can say I didn't do any of it, the books clearly fiction.
@@RM-fs4dj Yes, indeed, and that. Plausible deniability.
Brilliant yammy my brother always got a great way of projecting your genuine stories. Admire your respect for things not to be mentioned your a good guy and great to see you shine your yammy light again my good man. Have a decent evening mate👊✌️❤️
several firms from South London put it on JH one from Brixton smashed up a boozer he had with bats and a pair of brothers used to have great fun eyeballing him in a Gypsy Hill drinking club like something out of a western. Faces that knew both didnt know which end of the bar to to talk too and were always waiting for it to kick off.
holmes def did put in work.
Another excellent episode
Nice one Yammy, informative as usual and smiling as usual. Big Respect.
On fine form Yammy, good to see you well and doing good.
Got your heating on ?, Me and the Mrs are wearing hats indoors at the moment as well!
Best wishes as always 💪♥️🙏♥️
hi samson hope you are all good mate,your short stroies are so much better,you get right to the point,well done you always so much love,gary and haley x x x x
Having read Judas Pig, I've gotta say it's an interesting read Yammy, regardless of whether it's a all a load of BS. Sorry for asking but where's the Lee M part 2, I for one have really been looking forward to this. All the best 👊🏻
Good Morning Nyammy, I just woke up, bless! 🔥
Afternoon yammy brother glad to see you blogging youyr looking well bro❤️🙏💪🏴👍👌
Looking well Yammy. Hope you're having a good weekend. 👌🏻
Yes yes Uncle.....
"King Lewie" ... " The Greatest " back in full effect!!!!🔥🔥🔥👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽✊🏽
You soooooon come ? Lolol ❤️💛💚
Good to see you back Yammy, have you got anything on the Miscarriage of justice that was Winston Sillcott?
Come on 20k followers! Nearly there mate 👍🏻
Yes uncs 💯
Good input sam
Samson 🙏✝️✊, Respect as always from Owen B 👍
quick question yammy...why is it, that now all the krays are dead. dave courtney slags them off, but never when they were living ??
Yeah, pinball murder was Nicky Gerrard and George Bradshaw, but sure Bradshaw turned QE, which didn’t go too well for him cos he got life and Gerrard and “club owner” got not guilty 😂
Way back early 70’s too.
Nice one again Yammy
What happened to Lee part 2??
Looking a lot better yammy ❤️
What are all his books called. Anyone ?
His partner on the motorbike grassed him up.
Yammy do a video on trained fighters Vs untrained fighters ..I'm sure you have seen someone that has never trained ko someone that has ..
👌
Yes yes yes uncle wiseman
Yes yes yammy
I haven't read it, I see his interview thing .that didn't hit me how it hit many. Darkly lit and a bit theatrical.
Book was written for more than one reason ,is what many seem to forget.
There's a fella now who has millions believing ALL of what he says tateworm he's called
Media can be PhowaFul
I'll still read it one day .
Givvus a twos on it Yam 😆 never heard of it , I never heard it talked of n it weren't in the library .In fairness to Holmes many liked to leave a pub 🙈
Anyway, good to see you Sam
L8r yeah
Uncle yam I’m in Argentina mate need to catch up on your content
abit unrelated but in judas pig he talks about his childhood briefly, and theres a part about him going to playland arcade the notorious pedophile den in soho, where nonces would pimp out young runaways,,, its one of the only 2 documented accounts of someones personal experience at playland that i can find, the other one being anthony daleys book 'playland-the forgotten scandal'. the small part about him going to playland in judas pig really caught me off guard because id not long read anthony daleys account and did abit of research about it just out of curiosity, and there it was again -playland-,,, makes me sure theres gotta be bits of truth hidden in the book
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Just checked in to see if you made a video on JIMMY MOODY come on uncle yammy you pinkie promised months ago 😂
Well said I’m doing the talk where he was shot I’ve been waiting for ages to talk to someone now I’m clean I’m making a date V💯👌❤️
Hope all is well uncle any more on Ws
Good evening bro 👊👍
Nicky done the job for Ronnie Knight on his father's (Alfie) order.
Yammy at start of jp it says it’s a work of fiction. Jimmy Holmes mixes things up and makes out he’s done things to people to get back at them through the book. The Nicky Gerard shooting was put in there to try and tie someone else to Gerard’s murder
💯👊❤️yes alan what’s the point in people reading the book when all he’s doing is getting back at people brother 👊uncle yammy knows the truth I got more brother
@@yammybtv I do believe a lot of the book is true but definitely had made up/mixed up alot of the things that went on as we say to get back at people and also to not put himself in the frame for certain crimes
@@yammybtv also a lot of people read and like the book because it’s actually a good read and quite funny. You should read mate, give you a full idea of what people are talking about
@theenquirer1.0 I think most people understand and accept the book is a work of fiction as it’s stated at the start, and like you say with a lot of truth put in but mixed to definitely protect himself. But check out legacy as well. The subject of the books brother even says the book was a book of truth in a police interview! So who knows. Only two people actually know the truth and that’s the subject of the book and the author. And both are going to have their own agenda. But it’s very entertaining read
@theenquirer1.0 oh I believe that about journalists mate. I also know people close to the story. So it’s important to hear from both sides but understand that it’s all to be taken with a pinch of salt. As criminals and authors like everyone have their own opinion and reason for telling the story. None of us were there so who knows
Nike should be sponsoring you chap😎
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Evening ✌️🤔
My man ❤️👊
Did you ever come across Wesley brown Aka wesavelli from Liverpool yam 👍
Yanmy ,
would you ever get back into crime?
Have you been tempted? or as anybody influenced you since you’ve been out?
Was is it absolute
necessary to carry weapons at all times?
as previously mentioned in one of your videos.
How did you & Pat Tate become good friends?
Is Pat’s character, anything like you saw in Rise Of The Foot Soldiers?
How did you & Lee Murray
become friends out of interest.
I heard Guy Ritchie is making a film about Lee.
Thanks Yammy
Tony I haven’t committed one crime in 3 years brother 🙏❤️I don’t even think about it I absolutely regret wasting my whole life it was necessary Tony to carry weapons I lived on the edge to much and some dangerous places and people ❤️💯👊
They say something on google about his movie. Type Guy Ritchie making movie about Lee Murray
Hope u all good uncle Samson good story rrespect ya boi pete 😁😁🥴🙏👊🏻💪💪👌💙
@Yammy B TV
When was the last time you heard anything about JH? Is he still alive? Any rumours of him dieing?
We reckon he is
NOT VERY GOOD HERE SAMMY, MONDAY MORNING @07:30am, THE HIGHER POWER PRESENTED ME WITH A HEART ATTACK, AND I HAVE HAD A STENT FITTED, SO THIS MAN HERE @49 YEARS OLD HAS TO SLOW DOWN, HOPE YOUR WELL SAMMY 👍🏼👊🏼🙏🏼
Dave, I wish you my best.
Hope you can adjust as good n as easy as possible.
Go safe 🙏
🥲🙏😇❤️ahh dave b my heart goes out to you my boy
What’s good boy
☘️💯🤙🏻
Stuck a yogger under his chin!
Yeah but who did nicky Gerrard
Fucking hell Yammy I need MI5 codebreakers help to find out what's going on here, lol only messing around I get what your saying mate. Love your content Yammy all the best love from London and Dublin X
The riddler lol that video was only for those that have read Judas pig👊
Yammy ,,I own a copy of Judas Pig ,,I gotta say I believe some the stories I'm there are a bit spiced up but on the whole I think it's a good read.
I'm none the wiser on the Roy Shaw bit?
Roy Shaw was supposed to be looking for davey hunt to straighten him out for threatening a 'friend' of his, hunt heard about this and at some point clocked shaw getting out of his car, went over to him and shoved a sawn off into his chest and let roy know what the score was, roy understandably shit his pants and wanted no part of the long fella
@@lloyds053 cheers for that info....i was wondering about this myself
Is this in charity? Or Judas? Or is it under another name cos in the kindle version Shaw is only mentioned in relation to Lenny McLean.
Nitty Gritty, 👍
How did Bill the Bomb die?
Think it was cancer Ad🙏
@@yammybtv He'll be happy he's remembered
@@yammybtv Bill the Bomb. Passed away 2nd April 2012 of meningitis. Bill was out with his Son at the Beckton Arms when he complained of not feeling well. He was taken to Newham hospital, but was taken home where he died at 4am.
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I knew this was going to be a good one when I saw “Holmes” in the title.Any thoughts on his online interview? How he comes across,how accurate his opinion are,etc? Also,what about Liam Smith? Did not see THAT coming 👊
To me ,that interview didn't sit right. Like u say, his opinions is what got me thinking. Tbh I never knew about his book .1 moment I was thinking this is some agent or actor.
Anyway, let's see if Tammy's gonna comment his thoughts.
All the best MR S
Did hobbs get grassed by Lane?
Sam I just did a little justice for the 97 ting on some News your in .. Hope u ok I watch little right now I'm perplexed but u keep it the Fuck real Son ..... Who did u have for the fight last wknd!!? x
Eubank I was shocked
@@yammybtv ONTHEBIBLE Sam I just saw Liam in Town 1st ever time he ain't tall but he's a Handsome Cunt with his Fancy "FLANS" bag .. Cracker bit of Scouser him Sam x
Lol 😂 imagine that son👊❤️
I was banged up in highpoint in 93 and next door was jimmy holmes(presume it's the same one)be he was out of brixton..which made me wonder...but he was having with a blonde fella called Billy gale in there...am I mistaken ???
That was him I know billy gale👊
@@yammybtv thanks m8🤛
@@yammybtv ..what threw me,was he was in for mortgage fraud,being 1st division,thought he was into bigger crime🤣
@@stephenbrown7843 Any other stories to tell about Jimmy H in prison?? Hid book 'The Charity Committee' was about his time in prison for mortgage fraud, probably around that time, and there is a character called Rasher that people have struggled to identify, old school, was big in the puff game but started out in protection and part of "The Hole in the Wall Gang" ripping ATMs out of walls. Jimmy says himself that he only did time for relatively minor offences.
@@stephenbrown7843 Was the Jimmy Holmes you knew in Highpoint the same person as the Jimmy Holmes in this video? ua-cam.com/video/PXwdxBjdVlM/v-deo.html
What about killing the dog and the cat etc? Not the sort of things you'd make up
Whats all this? Lots of criminals talking about criminal stuff or something? I don't understand half of whats being said, but apparntly a large number of my 'subscribers' 200, also watch this....
Just talking about the book Judas pig
Much prefer to listen to people trying to give honest accounts without ego…makes for much better listening❤️👍❤️👍
Nice one Yammy❤️
Do you think that Holmes was working for Palmer early doors? In the late eighties in my late teens I worked for a couple of fellas involved in the porn video game, just picking up and dropping off tamper proof parcels on a bike. Anyway I was at a meet where these fellas were discussing a deal for Palmers Soho interests which he was selling for ten million and I wondered if Holmes was referring to JP in his book, everyone in this story have passed on so didn't think it would hurt to ask.
I’m going to come back to this B 💯I’m nearly there bro 💪😁🙏
When I see Holmes talking about his moving and running with Canning town elite he was talking of times I'm aware of.
I took it with a bag of salt . First names n nicknames and a way of knowing who was new n a random regularity of rituals places n ways things went after a Ching bar years , you'd start2be a little aware of ways, who's n where's n relevance of what could of been mistook for a joke..
Everyone had their part n there'd be a time n places to let your hair down so to spk n mingle (it really happened slowly) my point being is his ,'j Holmes portrayal didn't sit right
I heard Bill The Bomb was stabbed in the heart in the Greyhound at Plaistow once he was picking on a couple of geezers and they stabbed him is that true ? The Shawey thing sounds believable.
He did pick up a few stabs during his life not sure who and when s🙌❤️
YAmmy never done no jail??
Have you been a gossip queen all your life Yammy or just since you got released?
Are you being serious?
What's the channel about bruv
Have you just tuned in tonight?
Or is it a book related enquiry or a stewards ?
All my life 😁
@@yammybtv 🤣🤣🤣👍
😂😂😂😂
Yammy do you know who rode the motor bike when pat skipped court 🤣 banged two guvs ran out the court straight onto a waiting bike.
Lol 😂 I will get it for you that story legendary 👊❤️