Did the Vancouver Canucks just trade J.T. Miller for Marcus Pettersson?
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- Опубліковано 7 лют 2025
- The Vancouver Canucks just sent shockwaves through the entire NHL.
Not only did the team actually trade away J.T. Miller, but hours later they flipped the 1st round pick acquired from the New York Rangers to the Pittsburgh Penguins for defenceman Marcus Pettersson.
So Miller, Danton Heinen, Erik Brannstrom and Vincent Desharnais are out. Filip Chytil, Marcus Pettersson, Drew O'Connor and Victor Mancini are in.
What the hell is going on?
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It's a sad day in Canucksville, as (which happens more and more in recent times), the pouty spoiled kid gets his way if he whines loud enough. God help us if we have to go to war with the children of these times... I guess we're now Rangers fans 😨 ... Well, at least they play an up-tempo game that's enjoyable to watch. I have NO IDEA what this is going to do to The Canucks, though. I don't doubt that not only was there a riff between the two C's, but that 1/2 the team was on one or the other's side in this... Where does that leave team unity? And Jeez, THIS was Vancouver's 2nd Line today against Dallas: Heinen, Raty, DiGiuseppe ... Yeah, THAT'S gonna win a lot of games in The NHL... Ugh.
It maybe a relief for those that are drama queens, but the Canucks just got a lot worse, and we will have to see how the new comers can improve the team if any. The Canucks just played two periods of emotional hockey but could not get past the finish line for the two points. With the addition of the new players they may be a little better but without the Midget, they got no chance of winning, but we will see, i have been incorrect before.
Salary dump, retool that will likely put the team in with the bottom half of the league. IF they get production from others in the lineup, they could sneak into the playoffs. The focus should be on keeping the puck out of the net!
They been stuck in the mushy middle for 55 fricken years.
We are going to find out if Petterson really is Selke material. He no longer has Horvat or Miller to take all the hard minutes against the other teams players.
It will be telling if he still doesn’t get the matchup.
@@chrisdranfield3828 Peterson’s positioning is elite . He’s way smarter than Miller. Also 6tj most blocked shots in the league . Petey was just a scape goat for miller
Pettersson sucks this team is falling apart
Don't need him to be a Selke candidate he should be chasing the Art Ross... $11.6 need some goals and nit against soup cans like the Sabers
@@coolhandmooses
You can say this but every coach has not agreed giving others the hard matchup
The Vancouver Pettersons?! Are there any more left to trade for?
Players like JT Miller don't come around very often. He is a McDavid and Oiler killer. No chance to get past the Oilers without Milsy. I doubt the Canucks can make the playoffs at this point cuz the scoring just went to a lower level than where it was. Demko has not recovered to the level he has been in the past like Petey. This will result in more trades. Cheeto, Petey, and Demko are as fragile as glass and will get injured again and again (diet related) and that will destroy the play off chances. Most likely Suter will be the second line center once they see Cheeto glass man will not be able to handle the weight of the second line center responsibility. The new Petey might be able to help out the back end by defending and breaking the puck out fast. May as well sit Quinn out till he is healthy, and let the rest of the team sink or swim without him.
I wanna believe boys. I really, really do. But this just feels like paying high prices to quiet noise and plug holes.
we basically broke even on JT miller. we got his best years played here, and his composure started to crack. Think of it as a cap dump with no penalties, filled a crucial spot on our defense and removed some toxicity in the locker room. I loved JT too, but if you can't put your ego aside for the team, you are NGMI
Watch O’Connor’s short handed goal last year against the Bruins if you need some hype. Elite forchecker, loved him with the pens
@thedingbatdingers4326 There are some of us who are more or less just disappointed with this organization. Ofc, this is nothing new.
You're right. We did get JTs best years. But I also believe he had many more elite years left in him. Years with Hughes still on the team. Somehow management was able to assemble a team that appeared to be a legit contender, at least on paper.
I've been a diehard since '88. Not too often have we had such strong core pieces in place and locked up. Disappointed anything got leaked and disapointed players couldn't suck it up and just be pros. But who knows what the actual story is. Could not care less about interpersonal drama.
@@Xyy2387 i think it will take a big signing this off season to make something work... cause were short a top 6 centre. Might be a trade in there as well. I think Boeser will be traded for somebody younger and has similar potential. That spot will be fought for by Lekkerimaki and whoever we get...then the depth rebuilds from there.
@thedingbatdingers4326 Absolutely. Center and another top 4 D. Fans who've penciled in Willander are overly optimistic imo. Need to weaponize the cap space. Boeser is good as gone unless he takes a discount. Need to seriously consider selling high on Demko as well. I think when all is said and done, Pettersson will be hovering around ppg for the duration of his contract. This isn't terrible value but unremarkable nonetheless.
Petey, D-Petey, and Re-Petey. 😂
$11.6 for a Selke candidate like Bergeron or Barkov makes sense. EP40 needs to start putting up Draisaitl like numbers right now and not shooting soup cans against the Sabers. Need him to put up 2 or 3 points vs Vegas or Winnipeg. If he doesn't this management team has set this franchise back a decade
100% agree. Well said
Sedins wants to make Vancouver all Swedish team , bye bye playoffs
Not the Sedins choice.
YES THEY DID. Hughes needs a break, and between Mancini and M. Petey he's gonna get it before he drops. MAN HE BETTER STAY WITH VANCOUVER! GO CANUCKS GO! 🤟🦄✨
That’s gonna be some hard tough mins at a high level in the 4NC. You better hope he doesn’t go or this could be the end of your season! Trade Petey you have a surplus of Petey’s now, start the rebuild!
the problem is the market for Miller is very weird, his situation is similar to Ryan Kesler, who had NTC and only willing to go to the team he want to go. If Rangers unwilling to give up Lafreniere or Schneider, we only able to get as much as possible
Or, you don’t trade him until the pressure to make the playoffs in NY becomes too much for Drury to ignore.
Canucks just destroyed themselves, might as well trade everyone
Why does everyone compare Miller at his best to Petey at his worst? The sentiment seems to be “We traded Miller the hundred point player from last year instead of Petey who is stinking it up this year”. Same could be said the other way. “We kept Petey the hundred point center instead of the guy who constantly makes cross ice giveaways, lays off the gas in the defensive zone, and glides his way to line changes”.
You want glass half full? We traded a guy who was the only guy I could ever recall who had to take a step away from his team for attitude reasons. We’ll see how the team performs now without that poison in the dressing room.
Like the positive vibez
We already seen how the team performs without Milsy for ten games. They were a .500 team. Not good enough to make the playoffs. If the players traded for improve the team, it is conceivable that they can make it into the playoffs. It really depends on how well they fit in and the chemistry is right. I still see a chance they make the playoffs but i doubt it with this line up. No way they can beat anyone if they do make it in, so i see it as a huge step back for the Franchise for the next 10 years or for as long as it takes to get another caliber of player like Milsy. Next up Boeser. I don't see any way to be positive about the Canucks going forward, unless maybe making the playoffs is a positive thing and getting their ass kicked by the Oilers in the first round.
I love miller but those giveaways are brutal.
The Petey hate has nothing to do with the points. It has to do with the attitude and soft playing style, plus his ridiculous new contract. He should have been traded 2+ years ago with 2 years left on his LAST deal. NOT resigned to the current ridiculous contract which is an albatross for the club now.
Miller was never going to be Miller for the Canucks again. He gave up on the team. At least Chytil and Pettersson will contribute.
I don’t know why your surprised. We knew we weren’t getting shit for Miller.
Petey has to go as well! Useless and weak!
I’m a pens fan. Going to really miss Dragon and DOC. DOC is one of the best forecheckers I’ve seen, and a great person. Check out his shorty against Boston last year - he can be an impact player. The Dragon is a fan favorite too here in pittsburgh, treat them well. Wishing them luck in Vancouver
As a Penguins Fan and a Cancuks fan I don't think this trade is BAD for either teams. Would have been BETTER to keep miller but it sounded like he was gonna go no matter what. Gettting Marcus Petterson and DOC has a lot of potential. Both will be very missed by the players, fans, and media of Pittsburgh. I might get a DOC or M. Petterson jersey when they get an extension signed.
Our D core is solid, but the forward lines look like a first line, 2 third lines, and a fourth. No one expected Miller to be as good as he was...so let's hope one of these other guys steps it up
Chytil should be more than ready for 2c minutes.
He is super skilled and fun as heck to watch.
Hopes he stays healthy.
Gonna miss him very much in NY
Not so hyped on having Milker on the team tho🫤, should of included Drury in the deal for free
More like a second line and 2 3rd lines now .
I look at it like this:
Out
JT Miller great player gonna miss him
Danton Heinen (2 year contract which is a net negative)
Vinnie Decharnais (2 year contract which is a net negative)
Erik Brannstrom
Jackson Dorrington
Melvin Fernstrom
In
Marcus Pettersson hope we resign him though.
Filip Chytil
Drew O’Connor hope we resign him too.
Victor Mancini
A bit of cap space, isn’t it like $3 million altogether?
Is it better though I don’t know. I doubt it, but something had to change I guess.
Finally the team can find some chemistry. I think the tide is changing..
Looking at these trades must include looking at what the team have in their own system. There are a bunch of upcoming stars. Lekkerimäki,in sweden he is named the new Daniel Alfredsson
and Tom Willander is compared with Victor Hedman. The team has two possible generational players in the system in Lekkerimäki and Riley Patterson.
D Petey will grow to be one of the leagues top defenders.
Love the spirit let’s go
I won't miss the blind backhand passes leading to breakaways from Miller at the offensive blue line . It drove me nuts . ( 3 times in the last 2 games ) ...hell it got Beadreau fired !!@washepaid??
Seems very much so, yes. Chytil may turn into a valuable asset, but that seems unlikely with his concussion history.
Flipping the Ranger first pick immediately for Petterson seems like a bad move. Doesn't REALLY solve your lack of muscle on D issues and you've given up a potentially very value asset in that 1st pick that could have gotten you a REAL solution to 1 if not two of your issues or ... been used to do a rebuild ( this is the way I would go ) after trading Petey too for a bunch more high picks.
The Canucks are never going anywhere serious with Petey as their offensive center piece. Canucks need to get a bunch of players that have the character required to win a Cup ASAP, while Hughes is still under contract. So you can convince him to resign and then finally get that job done.
If it was me, I never trade Horvat in the 1st place and instead would have offered BOS Petey straight up for Marchand 2-3 years ago when Petey's value was peak. With that one change of direction, they might already finally have a Cup.
U watch filip come up big with 6mins more of ice time nd M pettersson d looks a lot better all u guys r so negative
Allvin has been excellent at finding 3rd and 4th line grinders and penalty killers. However, he has not picked up a good goal scorer since he took over. Couple good D men, under rated goalies. Thats it.
Miller is on the down side of his career and signed till he’s 37. Use the money and your 1st and trade for a stud forward at the deadline. D is set for years to come now.
We are all Petterssons.
Well, at least the Vancouver hockey team is.
For the Miller trade, I look at it like when Kesler asked out -- it was known that there was only one destination (NYR/ ANA) so the return was always going to be limited (Chytil/ Mancini/ 1st -- Bonino/ Sbisa/ 1st)
No I look at it we traded a late first to tb for miller so essentially we traded a late first that amounted to nothing for 2 NHL players..
What is the fascination with draft picks? Vancouver is one of the worst drafting teams in recent history...
Literally Elias and Quinn Hughes are the only decent picks in a decade 😂
You are effectively saying that the Canucks had to keep JT Miller and just somehow mend the deep rifts that had effected the entire team.
I honestly think this is a poor take from the getgo.
If you want first rounders, you can say hello to a full rebuild including Hughes, Petey and Boeser (possibly others).
I dont get your take. Were you aware of a better offer for JT that that Allvin didn't know about?
You just keep repeating that the team is worse...just state what you would have done instead...
Chytil will be the next Tucker Poolman
I am disgusted by Allvin and Rutherford. They killed this team.
This team was ass before them, this team will be ass with them. Let’s be real
Killed it by keeping miller over horvat
@@Matt00033 No, killed it by not realizing 2+ years ago that Petey was NEVER going to help you be a serious Cup contender. HE is the one who should have been traded with 2 yrs left on his LAST deal while he had max value. Neither of the other two. If you actually believe keeping Petey was \ is a good idea , you have no clue about what it takes to play playoff winning hockey and will be perpetually content with mediocrity.
@richardlefaive1944 I'd call you a tool but tools are useful. I know more about hockey than you know about yourself
@ A real rational, detailed alternative hypothesis or defense of your position rebuttal there Sherlock.
You didn't bother and went str8 into personal attack bc you know I'm right.
Its a damn sausage party here now with all these Peter's!
If this Mancini kids is as good as im hearing i think our Defence got way better. We just got a bunch of cap space so this could make us a better all round team!
That's what I'm thinking. I think Pettersons game is better on the counter momentum. If we can turn into a team that's pesty on defense, we can create more turnovers which is where Pettersson thrives, on the surprise attack.
We still have no cap space bud.
JT Miller…was great, -4 this year…says enough imo. Dont think the team is worse now
Hopefully sports psychology becomes a relevant factor
Told yall they were gonna flip that 1st
Everyone knew they were doing it, this surprises no one
@@tml1224 Ya the goal was to get second line center and more help on D. Can't wait to see the new comers perform, especially Mancini. They didn't get the center but maybe they hit on the D-men they picked up.
@ except alllllll the people bitching about the miller trade as if it wasn’t going to net us another player with that 1st. Just go to the comment sections on any Canucks post. Plenty of dumb people complaining about the 1st like we were keeping it.
i was saying to trade heinan months ago... good job gm
I dont mind this now. I was complaining at first after the JT trade but now I dont mind it. Was pretty much JT for Petterson. Getting rid of Vinny was good. Danton wasnt doing much.
I’m really sick of sweden.
Jt did not want to be another bertuzzi. He wanted out. Same zadorof he just didnt want to play here.
What was miller doing
If EP40 can now get on track and get back to what he was . Getting that dman helped. Miller wasnt scoring like last year anyway. So the Miller is gone and Canucks got a better blueline.
There will be no change with Petey, he has his own set of problems that are 100% health related, nothing to do with not liking Milsy. The rest of the players may experience some relief but Petey is right on pace with my predicted 67 points that i predicted he would get this year. Nothing will change there, it's the rest of the players that may benefit from the new Petey's Country Club atmosphere. Kumbaya my Lord Petey, Kumbaya. Altogether now; Kumbaya Lord Petey, Kumbaya. lol
@carlosvangrinder3754 if Pety don't get bad to anything . He can be traded before July with o problems
Hot take, this team sells at the trade deadline and moves both Markus and Brock for first round picks, then move on from Elias in the offseason to Buffalo... buddy doesn't take the offseaskn or practices seriously. He's garbage.
Dumbass move that leads to Hughes leaving and us starting from the very beginning
Yeah Marcus pettersson isn’t worth a first let alone one that could be 13-20.
It’s an overpay by a desperate team.
This team is set to be garbage if they trade everyone.
I’m sorry but I just don’t see the vision for the canucks
They probably want to see what the team looks like with ep40 without miller, they can still trade him at the deadline or in the offseason before July 1
We just traded miller for a rental defenceman. Another 1st gone for a swedish UFA. Allvin is putting benning to shame with these deals.
We needed someone else to move the puck bd still .......
In your words “you can’t trade away a guy that just had 100 points, and be a better team.” Tell me, how do his 103 points from last year help them this year? What’s he doing this year? Has he been a 8 million dollar centre? Has he been good for the team at all THIS YEAR?
Has Pettersson been a 11.6 million dollar player since the All Star Break last season?
Yes you can. If Miller was poisoning the team he had to go
Maybe but if he was holding Pettersson accountable & didn't get support from management I'd be pissed too
Van CIty is a country club ... Petey is a country club player. The REAL error was in not trading Petey 2+ years ago with 2 to go on the LAST contract while he was peak value.
*and a few mill in cap space
Pure speculation as usual boys
That first round pick is nothing in this years draft
Pettersson sucks, they fucked up
Some young guys
Stressed
Great trade! Salary dump!
Wait and see what they use all this cap space for at the deadline! Watch!
Thanks you
For being positive
Yup, and even if they don't get their guy at the TDL, (and what I think is more likely is) I think they will buy a 2C during UFA with all that cleared cap #InAllvinWeTrust
Cap space
Oh and if EP40 doesnt get better, they can still trade him before July before his trade protection kicks in.
Just nothing but negatives out of u
We will see the light tmrw
Love the moves
Thank you I needed this
Maybe a Calgary fan?
No, they traded him for Filip Chytil, hope that helps!
we traded one of the top ten players in the league for a very decent defenceman who is a UFA this year.
We are indeed weaker after these trades.
And the word "rhetoric" has the accent on the first syllable- not the second one. 😂
Please be better than an AI voice. 😊
Miller is not a top ten player in the legue though
To much crap about Canucks did wrong. Miller wasnt good this year. He wasnt that good defensively. Was bad in lockeroom. Miller wasnt 100 player this year and at his age, probably wouldnt make 100 points again. So to trade him to make defense better isnt bad. Canucks created cap space aswell to get more. Oh and got rid of Vinny
Chill man. Now that JT is gone its possible that EP40 goes back to form to cushion the blow. We got Marcus Pettersson to help with the blue line. We got some cap space for FA this season too. No its not fun now, but there are many ways to improve. Think about it, we might get some great entertainment in the playoffs for a round or 2, then Rantannen might actually be on the FA market. Its not over
Needed this
JR doing his best to create the Vcr Penguins. Reliving the same f-ing routine as last yr…trade away picks for UFAs.
Management is not done. They opened up a ton of cap space and can still acquire something very big.
With what assets ?
Take it easy Kyle. Clear your mind, rest and have a good meal. Dont let the cringe dirty trolls get to you.