Have Citizen just released the TSUYOSA KILLER?? Full Titanium NJ0180

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  • Опубліковано 17 кві 2024
  • Citizen have just released the Full Titanium Tsuyosa killer, the NJ0180.
    Great looking watch but at 429€ it might be priced a bit too expensive.
    The specs are there though. Check the video!
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  • @TheUnrevealer
    @TheUnrevealer 15 днів тому +8

    It is crazy when 429 considered "pricy", but then 6k for moonwatch considered "bang for a buck"

  • @devstories-iv1mw
    @devstories-iv1mw Місяць тому +12

    I wish they released 38 mm version

  • @isluderea8322
    @isluderea8322 Місяць тому +45

    Always too big…. Please bring a 38 watch with integrated bracelet

    • @wongpandai
      @wongpandai 19 днів тому +3

      your wrist too small

    • @isluderea8322
      @isluderea8322 18 днів тому +1

      @@wongpandai I have a small wrist yes i know. My 36 Explorer and my BB58 are perfect for me. My 41 Sub is also ok because it does not have an integrated bracelet. Therefore, a Citizen or a PRX in 38 are perfect for me

    • @dibyadipdutta1248
      @dibyadipdutta1248 18 днів тому

      They have a 38mm of the same series which is Ecodrive

    • @isluderea8322
      @isluderea8322 18 днів тому +1

      @@dibyadipdutta1248 i like the look and movement of the tsuyosa not that of the ecodrive

    • @bbbnnnddd
      @bbbnnnddd 17 днів тому +2

      They’re making sizes that work for the majority…not for the few with 12 year old girl wrists. Get in the gym and beef up those forearms, buddy.

  • @SaSpursFan
    @SaSpursFan Місяць тому +13

    Looks amazing but I wish it was was smaller

  • @AckoMunze
    @AckoMunze Місяць тому +14

    Nobody should ever pay full msrp price for Citizen or Bulova. You can always find them discounted by at least 25% and even up to 50% at Citizen brick and mortar stores, or even online. 100m water resistance, titanium with proven coating, saphire, beautiful design and at 25% off, it is fantastic piece and awesome value!!! My only gripe is the 3Hz movement vs 4Hz smoother sweep, but it is not enough to deter me from buying it as it will last forever no matter what. Way better than Tsuyosa with its 50m water resistance. Thanks for bringing this one to our attention, appreciated!

    • @hugojrcumbres
      @hugojrcumbres Місяць тому +4

      Yes I like 4hz watches too. But in small seconds it is less noticeable and power reserve should last longer.

    • @AckoMunze
      @AckoMunze Місяць тому

      @@hugojrcumbres true!

    • @thanhnamnguyen5280
      @thanhnamnguyen5280 Місяць тому +1

      @@hugojrcumbresreally think affordable brands should offer more small sec, 3Hz on small sec is just a whole different ball game

  • @Family4Dogs
    @Family4Dogs Місяць тому +10

    Oh my gosh I hope they make this in a Yellow or Orange dial!! I love this!

    • @NoneNone_
      @NoneNone_ Місяць тому +1

      I need it in black 🖤

  • @deskdiver
    @deskdiver Місяць тому +10

    Thank you for exploring this model further. It seems to be a classic example of a trade-off: an impressive exterior with a less remarkable interior.

  • @wrenside
    @wrenside Місяць тому +10

    i really like Bulova and Citizen but they can be very frustrating offering us watches that are a brick shy of a load: they drop a Miyota 8xxx into the watch or the dial is way too big or fill in the blank.

  • @spicydragon3881
    @spicydragon3881 Місяць тому +9

    I love Citizen and love this one. I was not blown away by the original Tsuyosa, but this is beautiful. My only gripe is I think its a bit over priced. I think I might sit patiently and wait a bit to pick one up on the secondary market.

    • @Horologique
      @Horologique  Місяць тому +1

      Smart move 👍

    • @Cinoism
      @Cinoism Місяць тому

      Or just wait til the hype dies down. I'm sure you can pick up from Jomashop or Chrono24 for 20%-30% off after 6 months or so.

  • @jaydub9509
    @jaydub9509 Місяць тому +3

    Nice thoughtful review! I agree, including the 9000 series would have made purchasing this watch essentially a no brainer, at least for me. I'm not as concerned with the advertised price, however, as Citizen watches can typically be found at greatly reduced prices on the secondary market, especially once the fervor has died down.

  • @jcshannon7388
    @jcshannon7388 Місяць тому

    I love it! Hopefully they will upgrade it or at least come out with a version with a 9 series. Thanks for the great video.

  • @MrsVanB
    @MrsVanB Місяць тому

    I like this watch! And I’m glad the crown is at the 3 o’clock position!🥳

  • @joywatson3764
    @joywatson3764 Місяць тому +1

    Great job!

  • @stefpix
    @stefpix Місяць тому +2

    They finally fixed the bracelet, removed the rounded links that do not match the angular case. It was particularly bad in the Tsuyosa small seconds. And better legibility.

  • @HonestWatchReviewsHWR
    @HonestWatchReviewsHWR Місяць тому +3

    I love the dial, especially in that colour. Having it be a fully titanium watch as well is great... But I'm with you, they definitely cheaper out on the movement, it deserved a 9000 series.

    • @Horologique
      @Horologique  Місяць тому +1

      Totally mate, a 9000 here would have allowed a slimmer case, and overall a better proposition

  • @frankyz007
    @frankyz007 Місяць тому +2

    Thanks Olivier. It's a very interesting model. Even better then the évolution of thé tsuyosa. The Tissot look, thé green dial IS great. Thé date complication, titanium of course and saphir... I imagine the lume IS not Bad. And 10 ATM IS greater for everyday Wear... It's a really classy élégant but tool watch! A little bit Expensive but for a titanium Citizen it's ok!😊

    • @Horologique
      @Horologique  Місяць тому

      Yes, totally my friend, thank you for you comment 👍

  • @brentwhite9712
    @brentwhite9712 Місяць тому +1

    Such smart looking watches, I really hope that these are released in my part of the world.

  • @spoon072000
    @spoon072000 Місяць тому +2

    Very attractive, but the text is a dealbreaker. You don’t see Rolex putting “Gold” on the dial. Citizen needs to realize sometimes less is more.

  • @johanvandersandt8904
    @johanvandersandt8904 Місяць тому +3

    Wow! Look at that! That dial is awesome but the movement should be better at the price! I would not mind the titanium version!

  • @gregorychoubana6755
    @gregorychoubana6755 Місяць тому +1

    There is also a salmon dial version, which looks lovely, ref NJ0180-80z.

    • @droid1appmkr
      @droid1appmkr 14 днів тому

      Also seen a grey dial with the ref as nj0180-80h.

  • @angelherrera6820
    @angelherrera6820 Місяць тому +2

    What an awesome watch but why are they handicapping this watch with a budget movement? The 8000 series movements are fine movements for budget watches but this watch deserves a 9000 series movement. I really don't understand Citizen or Seiko for that matter. Micro brands and a good amount of aliexpress watch brands are producing better watches for lower prices that have better specs. Anyway, rant over. Still a nice watch.
    Cheers!

  • @panospeter_pan4257
    @panospeter_pan4257 Місяць тому +2

    Im definitely getting the green textured one.dont like the 8 series calibre and the clasp.
    But the dial and case,are excellent

  • @ender1077
    @ender1077 Місяць тому +4

    What a shame it only has an 8 series movement. Wouldn't buy it even at a low price like this. Would definitely buy one though, if it had a 9 series.

  • @tedblack2415
    @tedblack2415 Місяць тому

    Think about it , if Seiko offered this what do you think it'd cost ? bearing in mind you'd still get an equivalent NH variant so in my mind it seems fairly priced . Mind you they're in danger of going into intergrated bracelet overkill across their range but a nice piece nonetheless.

    • @Horologique
      @Horologique  Місяць тому

      I'd cost 800€ to 1500, it's hard to know with Seiko's ridiculous pricing, but certainly over 800

  • @williamsipe1151
    @williamsipe1151 Місяць тому +1

    I like it. I think I'll wait a bit and get it for half the price in a year or so.

  • @alexanderweber3447
    @alexanderweber3447 Місяць тому +1

    I like the 100m water resistance. The Tsyosa had just 50m

  • @RogerSartet007
    @RogerSartet007 Місяць тому +2

    What is it that our Japanese friends have with date windows?? Just as with the Orient Bambino, the only thing wrong with this beautiful piece is that superfluous date window.
    I agree with your view on the price point. I would place it (considering the movement) in the Bambino tier, 250 €, or $.
    Anyway, thank you for the, as always, informative video!

    • @Horologique
      @Horologique  Місяць тому +2

      250 is a bit generous, 350 and I'd have been a happy man. Or the current price point, even 450 with the 9 series

    • @andyfrizzell4352
      @andyfrizzell4352 Місяць тому

      $200- 250 Eco Drive

  • @pierrelauwers8719
    @pierrelauwers8719 Місяць тому

    Have a look at the Citizen NH8390-20LE and 03XE....Steel of course, but nearly the same movement, beautiful design AND.....199 euro....

  • @asiantimepieces
    @asiantimepieces Місяць тому +2

    For a second I thought I was watching a VC Overseas 😮
    I love the new Citizen GMTs as well but too expensive 🤦🏻‍♂️

    • @Horologique
      @Horologique  Місяць тому +1

      That's a flattering comparison 😁

    • @SAMX4949
      @SAMX4949 Місяць тому +1

      which gmts

    • @asiantimepieces
      @asiantimepieces Місяць тому

      @@SAMX4949 I meant their latest GMT, the 8 series 880.

  • @jerryjensen6430
    @jerryjensen6430 Місяць тому +7

    Nice dial and titanium case. It’s always a no on 8215. Should be a 9 series.

  • @Tangylives
    @Tangylives Місяць тому

    Will probably be on sale for 250-300€ in a few months - I think it's pretty good value once the discounts kick in.

  • @RadixRill
    @RadixRill 16 днів тому

    Man i wish they beefed up the luxury a bit on this to compete more with a CW12.

  • @max.loves.watches
    @max.loves.watches Місяць тому

    Love the design. With the movement and crystal I don't think it's worth the full price, but these should be attainable for much less eventually.

  • @mountainhobo
    @mountainhobo Місяць тому +2

    Why the offset small seconds? What is the point?

    • @Horologique
      @Horologique  Місяць тому

      I would have preferred a symetic design as well

  • @peterzagorski4316
    @peterzagorski4316 Місяць тому +11

    Price is not an issue, but not being symmetrical is

    • @AforATY
      @AforATY Місяць тому +2

      That’s the thing I can’t get over as well 😂

    • @pierre-yvesp3769
      @pierre-yvesp3769 25 днів тому +2

      In my opinion that's what makes these stand out, and I really love it.
      To each their own, I guess. 😊

    • @howyduinyall7653
      @howyduinyall7653 16 днів тому

      Troooooooooo

  • @daveho852
    @daveho852 Місяць тому +1

    this wins hands down at least by the bracelet

  • @caktaylor
    @caktaylor Місяць тому

    Negatives be damned! I am going to have this watch.

  • @jagpapi4946
    @jagpapi4946 Місяць тому +1

    A very nice watch, there is also a version with Eco-Drive. I really hope that the quality of its workmanship will be high, comparable to the prx. Because in the case of Tsuyosu, the bracelet was tragic, below criticism

    • @Horologique
      @Horologique  Місяць тому

      I very much like the version with the Eco Drive which was released a couple of years back. That one with a 9 series would just have been great 👍

    • @jagpapi4946
      @jagpapi4946 Місяць тому +1

      I've never seen this model with Eco-Drive. Moreover, on Citizen's German website it is described as new model🤔

    • @slamandjam2
      @slamandjam2 Місяць тому +1

      You didn't like the tsuyosa bracelet? I loved the Rolex day date style personally

    • @jagpapi4946
      @jagpapi4946 Місяць тому

      I think the spacing between the links is too large. In the case of such watches, the bracelet is crucial

  • @andyfrizzell4352
    @andyfrizzell4352 Місяць тому +1

    I like this one. Price drop and a blue one will do nicely

  • @gragrn
    @gragrn Місяць тому

    I hope they release a quartz version at half the price like Tissot did.

  • @WilliamPham-ig7qd
    @WilliamPham-ig7qd 4 дні тому

    How would you compare this to the PRX?

    • @Horologique
      @Horologique  3 дні тому

      The PRX has the better movement by far but this one has the better materials and more interesting dial. Hard call

  • @philliprackow7153
    @philliprackow7153 Місяць тому +1

    Why would they release this so close to the new Tsuyosa? About the price: These are standard Citizen prices. They always come down after a year, my Barnacle diver for example had a suggested Retail-Price of around 900 euros or dollars depending on your currency on release. Bulova belonging to Citizen also had their fairly recent GMT-Release at 1200 at the start, now you can get them between 650 to 780.
    I wanted to get the blue dial Tsuyosa but am currently waiting on Jody's (From Just One More Watch) new Erebus to see if I wouldn't prefer that as the Blue-Dial piece I wanna buy next.

    • @Horologique
      @Horologique  Місяць тому +1

      Thank you for your input.
      As for the Erebus I'll have the chance of reviewing that pretty soon, stay tuned if you want to see it 😁

    • @jagpapi4946
      @jagpapi4946 Місяць тому +1

      Will this Erbus be an integrated bracelet or is it known?

    • @philliprackow7153
      @philliprackow7153 Місяць тому

      @@jagpapi4946 it won't be. From what i can see on the pictures it will be offered on a jubilee and an oyster-style bracelet.

  • @turbyoulance
    @turbyoulance Місяць тому

    Nice Edition/s

  • @micaljimenez7381
    @micaljimenez7381 Місяць тому +1

    Seiko have to be realy afraid by citizen strategy,a lot of new design and model nice,afordable,good job

  • @verynormalman
    @verynormalman Місяць тому

    T4YC. I love Citizen, and I think that the price is reasonable for the movement provided, but the text "automatic" and underneath, "titanium" is not a good piece of design, for what is supposed to be a beautiful watch.

  • @tachillecremonini387
    @tachillecremonini387 Місяць тому +2

    Bellissimi ❤

  • @Logicalillusion
    @Logicalillusion Місяць тому

    So your making a video based on article someone else wrote already? How far is this from adding value?

  • @enescatal1
    @enescatal1 Місяць тому

    With that price, it kills only itself :D :D

  • @pmajois
    @pmajois Місяць тому +1

    Pourriez- pas refaire cette vidéo en french? ou la traduire en sous titre??? merci

    • @Horologique
      @Horologique  Місяць тому

      Bonjour! Elle sort bientôt en Français courant semaine prochaine 😁

  • @thebitterfig9903
    @thebitterfig9903 Місяць тому

    I just really don’t like offset small seconds complications. I like it at the 6, can maybe accept it elsewhere on a chronograph, but at the 5 for no reason? I just really hate it. I get why someone would like this, and love that for them, but not even close for me.

  • @mustangx218
    @mustangx218 19 днів тому

    Why are they only releasing these in Europe? You can't even get them in Japan.

  • @user-iv9pv1kt9z
    @user-iv9pv1kt9z 15 днів тому

    38mm 欲しいに同感です。パワーリザーブもtuyosaの60時間がいいのに…

  • @turneradam2
    @turneradam2 Місяць тому

    citizen is coming for the crown

  • @alexschmitt-gk3fx
    @alexschmitt-gk3fx Місяць тому +1

    Superbe vidéo. Pensez aux français😊

  • @thomasstratford6227
    @thomasstratford6227 Місяць тому +1

    Titanium on the commodities market is going for about $16 a pound….just saying! The watch scams continue unabated!

  • @IgorGjurovski
    @IgorGjurovski Місяць тому +1

    100 euro more than I would pay...

  • @Tom_Kowalczuk
    @Tom_Kowalczuk Місяць тому

    And it lost all it's charm by moving crown to 3 (imho only!).
    My watches are mostly (except couple of vintage ones) with crown at 4 o'clock and I really prefers it this way.

  • @DaFox13
    @DaFox13 Місяць тому

    Does it Hack and Hand Wind?

  • @iwantshinythings
    @iwantshinythings Місяць тому

    Wait a couple months and they will be 250

  • @rostam79
    @rostam79 Місяць тому +1

    Why is the second dial so ugly

  • @royleow
    @royleow Місяць тому

    Nope not really excited for this. The case could have been made smaller to achieve the smaller lug to lug and the central seconds should be in the centre as well.

  • @generaltheory
    @generaltheory Місяць тому

    Tsuyosa meh. This one's seriously alright tho.

  • @TheGaztela
    @TheGaztela Місяць тому +1

    Bajará de precio

  • @jk8190
    @jk8190 6 днів тому

    Titanium bracelet and case = scratches
    Small second + date = can't be dressed up.
    Tsuyosa is way more GADA than this one and some colorways are good for dress up.

  • @watchalot919
    @watchalot919 Місяць тому

    Far too expensive. A very cheap movement, and the bracelet+clasp also look cheap. There are microbrands on the market so much nicer for less

  • @deanivan3951
    @deanivan3951 Місяць тому +1

    The Citizen Tsuyosa dial colours are much more beautiful than these

  • @Zonediver
    @Zonediver Місяць тому

    ...the "real" Tsuyosa-Killer is the NB1050 - nothing else...

  • @vincedelapena
    @vincedelapena Місяць тому +1

    I would prefer around 36mm but would take one at 38mm.
    And that’s coming from guy with 7.5” wrist.

  • @anthonywhitney634
    @anthonywhitney634 18 днів тому +1

    I think it looks fantastic, Ice Blue the stand-out for me. 40mm is a good size in my opinion. I also think an applied logo would have looked much more luxurious.