Every time I see a Kia Stinger on the road, it just puts a smile on my face knowing that that the person who bought it knew all along that it is a beast in sheep clothing. The fact that it is pretty much like an Audi A7 is a bonus as I too am a fan of the A7. Power, AWD, oh wow, something to think about for my next car! Oh, and Andrea cannot hide the fact that she loves anything with POWER! Zack always has to calm her down and to take it easy, LOL! You two ROCK! Killing it with smooth segues, I must say! Very happy watching steady rise in Subscriber's count, but I sure hope you get more!
Exactly - your point about smiling while knowing the person who bought it knew their stuff. I thought the same everytime I saw one on the road (before we bought ours). I always considered our Optima EX quite quick - but when the Stinger 3.3L TT AWD came out and we test drove one...I started countin' the days until we traded up to the Stinger. We've now owned six Kias over the years (Rio, Forte, Sedona, Sorento, Optima...and now a Stinger) - so we've watched Kia's progression with huge smiles on our faces. As a 56yr old car guy, I love the idea of pullin' alongside a Mustang GT or Audi at the light...and quietly sayin' under my breath - good luck, lol.
@@joecool9739 The standard A7 can sprint from zero to 60 mph in 5.2 seconds. Its turbocharged V6 engine feels brawny, eagerly shuttles the A7 up to speed, and is complemented by a refined seven-speed dual-clutch automatic transmission that fires off quick yet smooth shifts.The Stinger is faster then an A7 which costs more then double a stinger--to beat a stinger in the 7 series from Audi you have to put almost 100k or more down.
I have a Kia Cadenza. The second one. These cars are the definition of happiness.
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Kia has really become much more reliable and desirable than in the past . For example, a used Telluride often sells for more than original msrp! Kia”s great value and superior warranty are indicators that Stinger should have excellent resale value too.
When I bought my first KIA in 2010 their slogan was “Power to surprise” and the value for my money was what sold me. But the long term reliability and dealer service lead to me buying our second KIA. Love their products and this Stinger looks great especially from the back. The suede interior is a show stopper! Thanks for your review.
Kia has notoriously bad dealers so not sure what you're talking about. Reliability is also iffy with all the engine recalls lately. The value for money is there though.
Great video guys! Yes, Canada gets the best price on the Stinger of any market, to my knowledge. It's way cheaper than the US and even cheaper than here in Korea where the Stinger is made! Whoever buys this, is getting a great car at a great price.
Awesome review of the Kia Stinger Andrea and Zack! Couple of things: 1. I like the new new Kia logo in the front...it make the car standout 2. The subtle changes freshens up the vehicle and still draws attention
I love this car!!!! I just purchased the 2022 GT line version!!! The launch control will make you feel like you lifted off a ✈️ 0-60 in 4-5 secs!!!! Awesome ride
Damn I’m stuck with a Nissan it must Feel great Waking Up, and just looking at it, and step back and say Wow, it’s the opposite with me with a Nissan I say damn I hate to drive it, but I can not afford No KIA Stinger, I’m not hating just want to say Congratulations you got a damn Good Car, my Coworker got One and I finally got to Ride with Her, for Lunch, me and my other Two Coworkers, it’s a awesome Machine with power looks and Style and Quality, and such a smooth Ride and Quiet, we got a lot of of Head turns, and it made me think about KIA ain’t no Joke, this GT will beat the Brakes off a Nissan, Mazda, Toyota, and Camaro, and Mustang.
He’s backkkk ..... ;-) Zack & Andrea one of the MOST important omissions from your reviews (and pretty well all auto reviewers) is no mention of car warranties, especially when you bring up competitive auto brands... with Kia having 5 year 100,000km warranty that outshines upscale German brands. When people purchase vehicles, warranties are in top 5 factors in purchasing (my guess). We purchased my wife’s Hyundai Tuscon knowing it would be a long term purchase, thus warranty made a big difference in our car buying choices. Great videos looking forward to new ones you are creating.
These KIA Stingers certainly stand out. I think they look awesome. But just imagine how epic this vehicle would be ... if it were an Estate (a station wagon)! There would basically be ZERO competition under $75 grand (MB E-class wagons). Still... as it is... it still remains a head turner. Especially with that interior and at that price point. I expect it to do very well, for KIA. Thanks for the video. (Wet snow/rain all day yesterday in our National Capital (temp. drop to -8 C)! - today is starting better with a blue sky and an another amazing review from you guys).
I always enjoy y'all's reviews; and as a side note-watching one episode, you guys turned me on to watching Kim's Convenience haha (I'm in the States), so THANK YOU for that....great show. I had leased the GT-2 when the Stinger came out in 2018, I had it for a year. Great engine and fun but the fuel economy and high insurance was getting to me. When that lease was over I opted to buy a 2020 GT-Line (which you guys don't get)-it has the 255hp engine but the LOOKS (most important!) are the same. I guess I'm a 1%'er in that regard but it's more than adequate for my needs and still is fun to drive.
In 2019 I was comparing G70 and Stinger and wanted to go Stinger but back then the Genesis was priced better in the high end and overall lease rates and the like we're much better on Genesis. Agree the Stinger is a fantastic car but I went with G70 because to match payments with the concierge service it would have meant dropping down a level on Stinger. I love my G70 but glad to see they're working on being even more competitive with the Stinger pricing. Really like the new logo, and man that interior is really pimp!
I agree with you guys. Minor but Spot On changes make this car look better. If they could only get rid of the boy racer details as the fake hood vents and the ones behind the front wheels, if they are fake, and the unnecessarily large exhaust tips (they are already dual for God sake!), it would make for a much more sophisticated long-lasting look, which would make Auidi and BMW potential buyers pass over the none premium logo. Fine review as always. Best wishes for you and all of your viewers.
Awesome review. I bought a new 2018 GT (Canadian), it has been a great, very reliable daily driver. It is 85% as good as an S5 (and bigger) for 60% of it's price (In Canada I paid $40K CDN and a S5 would have been at least $70K CDN). I like the new infotainment, kinda like the rear lights, not sure about tail pipes and wheels. The front new Kia logo is better, but in back it is too big and looks to be a different metal and finish to the other badges back there and it looks odd. The big "Stinger" script on US cars looks better (I have changed mine to that too.) Overall the changes are not a big enough reason to upgrade just yet. Glad the Stinger put a smile on your faces like it does mine everyday. Keep up the great work.
Great review Andrea and Zack - you are a great couple! Am seriously considering the Stinger GT2 here in the US. I am also looking BMW/ Mercedes but cannot see paying almost the same $ for one of their turbo 4's and fake leather! Based on what I've seen from Kia lately, the company is ascending in terms of product (Telluride and Sorento), quality (JD Power) and image (new badge and auto press). The only downside I see is maybe the dealership experience but that probably varies. Thanks for the review and keep 'em coming!
in 2019 I traded in my 2017 M-B E400 Coupe for a Stinger GT2. I never had a single "problem" with the GT2. In 2022 I traded the 2019 Stinger for another 2022 Stinger. Prior to the 2017 E-Class I had a 2015 BMW 5 Series M-Sport . . . before that another M-B. The M-B & BMW care were all great, but I like the stinger more and not just the fact that Stingers are are $20K less, but still more fun. I do however, very much miss the "dealer experience"-- but the oil changes are a LOT less expensive.
I can say , as a previous owner of a stinger a great car and was super fun. My comment where the Germans differ, is really the dealership experience. That was the main reason I left the Kia even though was a great car. Everytime I went in for service your getting the same service as if you were driving a Forte. Outside of that I can truly say it is a excellent car.
Very interesting review, guys. Viewed from here in the US I noticed a couple of points. () When the Stinger was introduced several years ago it generated lots of plaudits from reviewers. Unfortunately for KIA, however, its sales have never matched those positive reviews. There are several reasons but among the most important was a factor that you cited about the base version with the 2.0L turbo engine, the model that should have been the Stinger's volume seller. Instead, Its sales were dismal in the US just as they were in Canada. To remedy that in the US KIA is offering the GT-Line model with the new 2.5L turbo engine that KIA, Hyundai, and Genesis are deploying in at least 7 different vehicles as either a standard or optional powerplant. As you noted, that model isn't available in Canada and having driven both the GT-Line and the big brother GT1 with its twin turbo 3.3L V6, in my opinion that's a shame. It's a vast improvement in both performance and fuel economy over the previous 2.0L engine. And while the GT1 offers neck snapping acceleration (0-60 in about 4.7 seconds) the GT-Line does that job in about 5.2 seconds with more linear power delivery and a 231 lb weight savings,, virtually all of it over the front wheels. No question that the twin turbo version of the Stinger is an impressive vehicle, just as it has been since the vehicle was introduced. But the GT-Line with its new 4 cylinder engine is an impressive "grand touring" sedan in its own right. () Speaking of a "grand touring" sedan, kudos for putting the Stinger in its appropriate category. Many North American consumers don't understand the designation "GT" as it's applied in Europe. It's not a two door coupe with a V8 engine (e.g. a Mustang) and it's not a "sports sedan" exemplified by the 3-series BMW. It's a midsize 4 door sedan designed to carry 4-5 passengers in comfort at speeds over 100 mph over well maintained European highways and navigating European backroads originally laid down by the Romans two millennia ago or narrow urban streets in European cities. Understood in those terms, the Stinger is an impressive vehicle in with either its 4 cylinder or its V6 engine. () As noted above I've recently driven both the GT-Line and GT1 Stingers and found each to be a bargain compared to the competition. The GT1 arguably falls a bit short of European vehicles from Audi, BMW, and MB but at a price point that is very, very appealing. The GT-Line offers even greater savings. In that case, the most appropriate rival is the VW Arteon. As an owner of both a KIA (Sorento) and a VW (GTI), I'm undecided between them. () Again, thanks for the review, folks. It's always great to hear a Canadian perspective on vehicles we share and the differences between the ones available in both countries. I have to say that KIA has done Canadians a favor in outfitting the highest trim Stingers while offering Americans a base version that Canadians unfortunately don't have a chance to purchase.
Great reply! I currently own a 21 A35. I cross shopped and briefly looked at the GT2. If they would of offered the suede dash and bits like the CN version, I’d probably have picked it over the A35. I love my A35, which was priced with four options and 47.4 OTD, but in a couple years I’ll def be looking at the GT2 hard. My biggest complaint is the hood, need to make them vents functional or get rid of them.
I'm going to buy one this year with the suede package here in Canada. I don't know why but we Canadian get the best deal with unbeatable price. I've researched almost all competitors in similar class and those cost at least 6-7k or even more... btw, I'm not a badge snobber and I only want best bang for the buck, so I'll drive my stinger happily everyday and the others can laugh all they want while they drown themselves in debt.
Great car, no doubt. So many good ones to choose from. Beside the Stinger, other fun, good-looking cars are the A5 Sportback, the BMW GT 4 Series, the Infinity Q60 (not as practical), the Lexus RC (ditto), the new TLX , the G70 (especially manual), the C-Class, the Mustang Gt, the Camaro SS and the CT4 - and CT5 V's. Thank you for the fun review.
If that's true, and I didn't realize it, then the interiors will be out of this world, because Audi IMO, has the most beautiful interiors of any vehicle.
This and the VW Arteon are the 2 cars that may convince me not to get a small SUV. More dynamic, lots of space but lower driving position and can’t really carry my 3 man canoe
I know they said they discontinued the 2.0t here because it didn't sell well. However I truly believe if they had offered a 2.5t here with all the features of the elite that it would sell. The last one didn't sell well because it wasnt optioned right and was underpowered. The new 2.5t has got a good amount of power and is more nimble and handles well with it being a lot lighter.
An excellent review that is simple and from a normal drivers point of view which I liked. That version looks stunning. We won't get that version here in Oz which is unfortunate as I would seriously think about changing my current Stinger GT for this one in the video. In Oz, a similar specced German car would cost twice as much. I did the exercise last year before buying my Stinger GT. That is a lot of dollars to pay for a badge and brand.
Another awesome review review you two. Its too bad that the Stinger doesn't sell as well as it should. For a non premium brand, Kia has thrown a lot of upscale features to the Stinger and it has an excellent powertrain for way less money than the premium brands from Germany and Japan. I can see why you two are impressed with this vehicle. 👏 Its too bad that consumers, including myself may overlook this car because it doesn't wear a premium badge.
@@andreaspencer9813 The GV70/GV80 is going to diminish G70/G80 sales .. Put a Genesis badge on the Stinger? Then Genesis will have its premier GT sportback! [1] The Stinger deserves better care/service that Kia dealers will ever be able to offer it .. -------------- [1] You could add another 5k to the price tag (better interior; more color options) and still undercut an S5 et al ..
It’s a good job I don’t review cars based on my “pant colour” I’d never see a car that wasn’t black or blue 🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️ always loved the look of this car !!!!
Love the innuendos. Keep it up! 😁 Seriously, great review. I have been driving SUVs for many years and now ready to go back to a cruiser sedan with some flair. Love the hatchback/storage space and the nod to German design and engineering. It's a great value too. What's not to like?
At some point they may have to decide to put a Genesis badge on the Stinger .. Get rid of the G70/G80 .. The GV70/GV80 will probably dictate that eventually .. Keep Stinger as Genesis' premier GT .. (sportback) Eventually come out with a pure sports vehicle/supercar .. Call it .................. the Scorpion? (similar to directly compete vs. NSX) The Stinger honestly does not belong with other Kia's .. It's a class above the others, and deserves better care/service under a true premium brand ..
The engine has so much torque with all wheel drive will beat most muscle cars off the line. Loaded with so many features found on high end vehicles. If I didn’t need to pull a trailer this would be very high on my list with winter tires.
Oh how I miss Vancouver BC (from Seattle, damn covid). Trying to find a way to parlay my 2015 MB C300 into one of these without too paying too much of a difference.
Apologies, if this is a repeat. The relatively better Canadian price is likely compensation for the Canadian warranty being 5 years when the US gets 10 years. Still, a hell of a deal for a great car.
Kia is really bring out some really interesting products. I really like the look of this car but couldn't agree more about those fake vents on the hood Zach. I think the Kia EV6 moves their design language even further. It's really sharp and the GT version is going to be a ripper. Fast that is.
Seriously considering this as a replacement to my 07 TL Type-S. I'm kinda torn between this and the new TLX Type-S but that is gonna be more expensive and less practical.
@@a88888888a The IS-F is tiny, and seats only four. My TL is barely practical enough for what I do outside of driving for enjoyment (camp, hike, road trip, off road on forest service roads at times, winter driving with chains). Plus, it's way more expensive. The upcoming IS500 is rumored to be about $78k CAD MSRP.
That’s an amazing car, and if you actually are a car enthusiast rather than a badge snob, it’s a magnificent vehicle, no matter who makes it. It has a great warranty and it’s loaded with features, what’s not to like?
@@andreaspencer9813 Andrea, love the areas you film too, the Endowment Lands etc. My Dad taught at UBC and I grew up in Kerrisdale, so I love seeing the places I grew up in featured in your videos. Makes me homesick. 😉👍
@@tlevans62 I went to Magee and figure skated out of the Kerrisdale Figure Skating Club. I don't know how many times I visited that McDonalds lol! Remember the Red Onion? Glad you can reminisce about the great areas when you watch our reviews. I can understand why you are homesick.
@@andreaspencer9813 OMG, I went to Magee as well, class of '79 so I'm ancient! I used to basically live at the rink in Winter and got up to no good at the Mickey Ds there a lot after school. Small world! Moved to Australia after high school, and been traveling the World ever since. Love your channel and you certainly are adding something special to the car review genre and love the Cars and Coffee segment. I think I better follow you on Instagram now, you and Zack keep up the fantastic job and I'm always looking forward to your videos. Cheers!
@@tlevans62 OMG is right, what a small world. I've never been to Australia, but would love to go one day. Mickey Ds is exactly what we called it, I can't tell you how many ice-creams and Big Macs I had lol! Thank you, really glad you are enjoying the channel, we are happy to hear it. Yes, follow along on IG, I give a quick review of all the vehicles we are reviewing that week. Lots of followers chime in with comments, it's a lot of fun. I'll also let you know when all the videos drop on the channel and I always do Nightlife in my stories. Would love to have you!
It's a 4-cylinder engine which is why we didn't pick it. Less horsepower. Although, in the US you do get the smaller 4-cylinder so sure I suppose it could be a competitor.
I liked the ruby red seat belts for a second and then suddenly they looked like ribbons. I wouldn't want to resemble a present as I'm driving. I don't understand suede in a car. Unlike leather, which gets softer and richer from oils from the hand, suede stains. That might look cool on a jacket, but not a car interior. Otherwise, I love this car! I might someday like to have a sporty second car and this should be on my list. By the way, your region is very beautiful! I love seeing the streetscapes as you drive along. You must love living in Vancouver.
Andrea, jerking? Besides missing this video the first time (?) I really enjoyed this video. I’ve driven the 2.5 and the 3.3 in AWD and the 2.5 is surprisingly good. It’s quick off the line but the 3.3 has more guts in the midrange to top end. If I were in the market here in the US, I’d go for the 2.5 AWD fully loaded for under $45,000 US. I think the Stinger with either engine is a bargain. It’s a shame that Kia might cancel Stinger after the 22 model.
Which Stinger model has the "Stinger" brand name in the center of the trunk door? or was that a earlier model year or the Scorpion model I keep hearing about.
I’m not sure you completely answered the reserved question regarding this car vs rivals and their price differences. I’d also like to know...How is the perceived build quality and handling vs the German rivals (which I know feel very solid)? 53,0000 is a lot for something that is going to possibly creek, rattle, wear prematurely, and basically fall apart. Do you think it will hold together well?
I didn't see this question in the comments section but... Given the huge price increase for the 2021 Genesis G80 would you recommend this new Stinger over the G80? Thanks for the great review.
Kia Stinger, much more better overall compared to the BMW 3 and 4 Series and Mercedes-Benz C-Series, but at a lower price... (more value for money)!.👍🏼👌🏼😉😍😎
The price difference is partly in the warranty. Canada = 5 years 100,000km The US is 10 years 100,000 MILES! Still, perhaps you can buy an extended warranty through Kia Canada to bridge the gap. With all of Kia's engine recalls over the last few years - it would be good to get a warranty (but then that is true for all the German cars as well).
Yes, absolutely, it's a great comparison. I guess we just picked cars with the more powerful engine. But in the US, you can get the turbocharged 4-cylinder so we should have considered it. Thanks for sharing!
Kia is really killing it with the Stinger and Telluride
They sure are!
Agreed!
Kia is killing it In General overall to be honest
I 💯 % agree because I own one of each. Both look fantastic and drive terrific!
Every time I see a Kia Stinger on the road, it just puts a smile on my face knowing that that the person who bought it knew all along that it is a beast in sheep clothing. The fact that it is pretty much like an Audi A7 is a bonus as I too am a fan of the A7. Power, AWD, oh wow, something to think about for my next car! Oh, and Andrea cannot hide the fact that she loves anything with POWER! Zack always has to calm her down and to take it easy, LOL! You two ROCK! Killing it with smooth segues, I must say! Very happy watching steady rise in Subscriber's count, but I sure hope you get more!
Exactly - your point about smiling while knowing the person who bought it knew their stuff. I thought the same everytime I saw one on the road (before we bought ours). I always considered our Optima EX quite quick - but when the Stinger 3.3L TT AWD came out and we test drove one...I started countin' the days until we traded up to the Stinger. We've now owned six Kias over the years (Rio, Forte, Sedona, Sorento, Optima...and now a Stinger) - so we've watched Kia's progression with huge smiles on our faces. As a 56yr old car guy, I love the idea of pullin' alongside a Mustang GT or Audi at the light...and quietly sayin' under my breath - good luck, lol.
Lets not get carried away here
Its nowhere near an Audi A7 in anything
But yes, it obviously took inspiration from the A7 in its exterior and interior
@@joecool9739 The standard A7 can sprint from zero to 60 mph in 5.2 seconds. Its turbocharged V6 engine feels brawny, eagerly shuttles the A7 up to speed, and is complemented by a refined seven-speed dual-clutch automatic transmission that fires off quick yet smooth shifts.The Stinger is faster then an A7 which costs more then double a stinger--to beat a stinger in the 7 series from Audi you have to put almost 100k or more down.
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Its only the daddy of the Stinger
I have a Kia Cadenza. The second one. These cars are the definition of happiness.
Kia has really become much more reliable and desirable than in the past . For example, a used Telluride often sells for more than original msrp! Kia”s great value and superior warranty are indicators that Stinger should have excellent resale value too.
When I bought my first KIA in 2010 their slogan was “Power to surprise” and the value for my money was what sold me. But the long term reliability and dealer service lead to me buying our second KIA. Love their products and this Stinger looks great especially from the back. The suede interior is a show stopper! Thanks for your review.
Thanks for watching and for sharing your positive experience about Kia.
Kia has notoriously bad dealers so not sure what you're talking about. Reliability is also iffy with all the engine recalls lately. The value for money is there though.
@@janoycresnova9156 depends on the engine
Great video guys! Yes, Canada gets the best price on the Stinger of any market, to my knowledge. It's way cheaper than the US and even cheaper than here in Korea where the Stinger is made! Whoever buys this, is getting a great car at a great price.
Awesome review of the Kia Stinger Andrea and Zack!
Couple of things:
1. I like the new new Kia logo in the front...it make the car standout
2. The subtle changes freshens up the vehicle and still draws attention
I think Doug DeMuro had the last GT before trading it in for the new Defender. "It's not reading glasses" - "heads are jerking". Epic comments Andrea.
lol! Thanks glad you enjoyed the review.
The new logo design looks great.
Just bought that exact car in red. Awesome...
Speed. beauty, style. Kia has really uped their game...
I love this car!!!! I just purchased the 2022 GT line version!!! The launch control will make you feel like you lifted off a ✈️ 0-60 in 4-5 secs!!!! Awesome ride
probably the best sport car for your money!
i just got my 22 GT1 rwd and wow I'm so happy with the car!!
Damn I’m stuck with a Nissan it must Feel great Waking Up, and just looking at it, and step back and say Wow, it’s the opposite with me with a Nissan I say damn I hate to drive it, but I can not afford No KIA Stinger, I’m not hating just want to say Congratulations you got a damn Good Car, my Coworker got One and I finally got to Ride with Her, for Lunch, me and my other Two Coworkers, it’s a awesome Machine with power looks and Style and Quality, and such a smooth Ride and Quiet, we got a lot of of Head turns, and it made me think about KIA ain’t no Joke, this GT will beat the Brakes off a Nissan, Mazda, Toyota, and Camaro, and Mustang.
@@blackdragon9077 What Nissan model do you own?
@@Theyralltakenfu Nissan Maxima SR 2019
@@blackdragon9077 That’s a really nice 👍 vehicle.
@@Theyralltakenfu Appreciate that looking at One Day to trading it in for a Stinger GT.
Enthusiastic review, guys! It is clear that you enjoyed this car. Thanks!
You bet!
He’s backkkk ..... ;-) Zack & Andrea one of the MOST important omissions from your reviews (and pretty well all auto reviewers) is no mention of car warranties, especially when you bring up competitive auto brands... with Kia having 5 year 100,000km warranty that outshines upscale German brands. When people purchase vehicles, warranties are in top 5 factors in purchasing (my guess). We purchased my wife’s Hyundai Tuscon knowing it would be a long term purchase, thus warranty made a big difference in our car buying choices. Great videos looking forward to new ones you are creating.
These KIA Stingers certainly stand out. I think they look awesome. But just imagine how epic this vehicle would be ... if it were an Estate (a station wagon)! There would basically be ZERO competition under $75 grand (MB E-class wagons). Still... as it is... it still remains a head turner. Especially with that interior and at that price point. I expect it to do very well, for KIA. Thanks for the video. (Wet snow/rain all day yesterday in our National Capital (temp. drop to -8 C)! - today is starting better with a blue sky and an another amazing review from you guys).
(-8 C....including wind chill)
That is a climate emergency....
Every time i see a Stinger, it never fails to make me turn and look at it. I never thought one of my dream cars would be a Kia 😂
I always enjoy y'all's reviews; and as a side note-watching one episode, you guys turned me on to watching Kim's Convenience haha (I'm in the States), so THANK YOU for that....great show.
I had leased the GT-2 when the Stinger came out in 2018, I had it for a year. Great engine and fun but the fuel economy and high insurance was getting to me. When that lease was over I opted to buy a 2020 GT-Line (which you guys don't get)-it has the 255hp engine but the LOOKS (most important!) are the same. I guess I'm a 1%'er in that regard but it's more than adequate for my needs and still is fun to drive.
Great show but it has been cancelled! Too bad.
In 2019 I was comparing G70 and Stinger and wanted to go Stinger but back then the Genesis was priced better in the high end and overall lease rates and the like we're much better on Genesis. Agree the Stinger is a fantastic car but I went with G70 because to match payments with the concierge service it would have meant dropping down a level on Stinger.
I love my G70 but glad to see they're working on being even more competitive with the Stinger pricing.
Really like the new logo, and man that interior is really pimp!
Excellent review guys, love everything about this Stinger. Well done! Andrea you are killing it in the red pants 👌
Thank you very much! Glad you enjoyed the review.
Great video Zack & Andrea. Beautiful car I must say. Have a wonderful weekend, stay safe !!!
I agree with you guys. Minor but Spot On changes make this car look better. If they could only get rid of the boy racer details as the fake hood vents and the ones behind the front wheels, if they are fake, and the unnecessarily large exhaust tips (they are already dual for God sake!), it would make for a much more sophisticated long-lasting look, which would make Auidi and BMW potential buyers pass over the none premium logo.
Fine review as always.
Best wishes for you and all of your viewers.
Awesome review. I bought a new 2018 GT (Canadian), it has been a great, very reliable daily driver. It is 85% as good as an S5 (and bigger) for 60% of it's price (In Canada I paid $40K CDN and a S5 would have been at least $70K CDN).
I like the new infotainment, kinda like the rear lights, not sure about tail pipes and wheels. The front new Kia logo is better, but in back it is too big and looks to be a different metal and finish to the other badges back there and it looks odd. The big "Stinger" script on US cars looks better (I have changed mine to that too.) Overall the changes are not a big enough reason to upgrade just yet.
Glad the Stinger put a smile on your faces like it does mine everyday. Keep up the great work.
Thanks so much for watching, glad you liked the review. Good to hear your Stinger has been good to you, thanks for sharing.
Stinger is way less money than all the rest you compared it to. The value is in the Stinger.
Great review Andrea and Zack - you are a great couple! Am seriously considering the Stinger GT2 here in the US. I am also looking BMW/ Mercedes but cannot see paying almost the same $ for one of their turbo 4's and fake leather! Based on what I've seen from Kia lately, the company is ascending in terms of product (Telluride and Sorento), quality (JD Power) and image (new badge and auto press). The only downside I see is maybe the dealership experience but that probably varies. Thanks for the review and keep 'em coming!
Thank you so much, really glad you enjoyed the review. Thanks for the positive feedback.
in 2019 I traded in my 2017 M-B E400 Coupe for a Stinger GT2. I never had a single "problem" with the GT2. In 2022 I traded the 2019 Stinger for another 2022 Stinger. Prior to the 2017 E-Class I had a 2015 BMW 5 Series M-Sport . . . before that another M-B. The M-B & BMW care were all great, but I like the stinger more and not just the fact that Stingers are are $20K less, but still more fun. I do however, very much miss the "dealer experience"-- but the oil changes are a LOT less expensive.
I can say , as a previous owner of a stinger a great car and was super fun. My comment where the Germans differ, is really the dealership experience. That was the main reason I left the Kia even though was a great car. Everytime I went in for service your getting the same service as if you were driving a Forte. Outside of that I can truly say it is a excellent car.
Beautiful car! Suede is rare any manufacturer put it there. I laugh you mentioned head jerking! 😂 awesome video guys!
Thank you very much, glad you thought it was funny. :)
Lots of cows and horses in North Korea.
Very interesting review, guys. Viewed from here in the US I noticed a couple of points.
() When the Stinger was introduced several years ago it generated lots of plaudits from reviewers. Unfortunately for KIA, however, its sales have never matched those positive reviews. There are several reasons but among the most important was a factor that you cited about the base version with the 2.0L turbo engine, the model that should have been the Stinger's volume seller. Instead, Its sales were dismal in the US just as they were in Canada. To remedy that in the US KIA is offering the GT-Line model with the new 2.5L turbo engine that KIA, Hyundai, and Genesis are deploying in at least 7 different vehicles as either a standard or optional powerplant. As you noted, that model isn't available in Canada and having driven both the GT-Line and the big brother GT1 with its twin turbo 3.3L V6, in my opinion that's a shame. It's a vast improvement in both performance and fuel economy over the previous 2.0L engine. And while the GT1 offers neck snapping acceleration (0-60 in about 4.7 seconds) the GT-Line does that job in about 5.2 seconds with more linear power delivery and a 231 lb weight savings,, virtually all of it over the front wheels. No question that the twin turbo version of the Stinger is an impressive vehicle, just as it has been since the vehicle was introduced. But the GT-Line with its new 4 cylinder engine is an impressive "grand touring" sedan in its own right.
() Speaking of a "grand touring" sedan, kudos for putting the Stinger in its appropriate category. Many North American consumers don't understand the designation "GT" as it's applied in Europe. It's not a two door coupe with a V8 engine (e.g. a Mustang) and it's not a "sports sedan" exemplified by the 3-series BMW. It's a midsize 4 door sedan designed to carry 4-5 passengers in comfort at speeds over 100 mph over well maintained European highways and navigating European backroads originally laid down by the Romans two millennia ago or narrow urban streets in European cities. Understood in those terms, the Stinger is an impressive vehicle in with either its 4 cylinder or its V6 engine.
() As noted above I've recently driven both the GT-Line and GT1 Stingers and found each to be a bargain compared to the competition. The GT1 arguably falls a bit short of European vehicles from Audi, BMW, and MB but at a price point that is very, very appealing. The GT-Line offers even greater savings. In that case, the most appropriate rival is the VW Arteon. As an owner of both a KIA (Sorento) and a VW (GTI), I'm undecided between them.
() Again, thanks for the review, folks. It's always great to hear a Canadian perspective on vehicles we share and the differences between the ones available in both countries. I have to say that KIA has done Canadians a favor in outfitting the highest trim Stingers while offering Americans a base version that Canadians unfortunately don't have a chance to purchase.
Great reply! I currently own a 21 A35. I cross shopped and briefly looked at the GT2. If they would of offered the suede dash and bits like the CN version, I’d probably have picked it over the A35. I love my A35, which was priced with four options and 47.4 OTD, but in a couple years I’ll def be looking at the GT2 hard. My biggest complaint is the hood, need to make them vents functional or get rid of them.
I'm going to buy one this year with the suede package here in Canada. I don't know why but we Canadian get the best deal with unbeatable price. I've researched almost all competitors in similar class and those cost at least 6-7k or even more...
btw, I'm not a badge snobber and I only want best bang for the buck, so I'll drive my stinger happily everyday and the others can laugh all they want while they drown themselves in debt.
I gave your video a like just coz you’ll look extra happy today!!!
Thanks for that!
Great car, no doubt. So many good ones to choose from. Beside the Stinger, other fun, good-looking cars are the A5 Sportback, the BMW GT 4 Series, the Infinity Q60 (not as practical), the Lexus RC (ditto), the new TLX , the G70 (especially manual), the C-Class, the Mustang Gt, the Camaro SS and the CT4 - and CT5 V's. Thank you for the fun review.
This is a very pleasant review guys.
Kia has acquired top BMW and AUDI designers and engineers that's why their vehicles are changing.
You are right!
If that's true, and I didn't realize it, then the interiors will be out of this world, because Audi IMO, has the most beautiful interiors of any vehicle.
This and the VW Arteon are the 2 cars that may convince me not to get a small SUV. More dynamic, lots of space but lower driving position and can’t really carry my 3 man canoe
You have to be a vw fanboy to even consider the Arteon over the stinger.
KIA ! love the duel exhaust sweet..
The new logo is much more harmonized with the design than old one. looks nice.
Watching your video for the 1st time. Wholesome n fun. Captured my attention with your casual style.
Come on back, lots of videos each week!
The heads aren't just turning because of the car, I can tell you that. What a hottie.
Love this. Well done. Cool logo!!
Great video as always guys
I know they said they discontinued the 2.0t here because it didn't sell well. However I truly believe if they had offered a 2.5t here with all the features of the elite that it would sell. The last one didn't sell well because it wasnt optioned right and was underpowered. The new 2.5t has got a good amount of power and is more nimble and handles well with it being a lot lighter.
Love your videos, love this car. But in France, the taxes kill it. Looks Spring has arrived in Vancouver, but here, cold again. Salut.
An excellent review that is simple and from a normal drivers point of view which I liked. That version looks stunning. We won't get that version here in Oz which is unfortunate as I would seriously think about changing my current Stinger GT for this one in the video.
In Oz, a similar specced German car would cost twice as much. I did the exercise last year before buying my Stinger GT. That is a lot of dollars to pay for a badge and brand.
Glad you liked it!
Great review !!
Fantastic car. Nothing competes with this incredible vehicle. Would take this over a S5 Sportback or 440.
Another awesome review review you two. Its too bad that the Stinger doesn't sell as well as it should. For a non premium brand, Kia has thrown a lot of upscale features to the Stinger and it has an excellent powertrain for way less money than the premium brands from Germany and Japan. I can see why you two are impressed with this vehicle. 👏 Its too bad that consumers, including myself may overlook this car because it doesn't wear a premium badge.
So true, as I said in the video, some won't even give it a chance. Thanks for watching!
@@andreaspencer9813 The GV70/GV80 is going to diminish G70/G80 sales ..
Put a Genesis badge on the Stinger?
Then Genesis will have its premier GT sportback! [1]
The Stinger deserves better care/service that Kia dealers will ever be able to offer it ..
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[1] You could add another 5k to the price tag (better interior; more color options) and still undercut an S5 et al ..
It’s a good job I don’t review cars based on my “pant colour” I’d never see a car that wasn’t black or blue 🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️ always loved the look of this car !!!!
The logo especially looks good on this car
Very well put together
Great to see you are using MPG in your fuel economy.
Love the innuendos. Keep it up! 😁 Seriously, great review. I have been driving SUVs for many years and now ready to go back to a cruiser sedan with some flair. Love the hatchback/storage space and the nod to German design and engineering. It's a great value too. What's not to like?
Very nice, wish they had put the new 3.5l turbo in the Stinger. I struggle to choose between Stinger and G70.
At some point they may have to decide to put a Genesis badge on the Stinger ..
Get rid of the G70/G80 ..
The GV70/GV80 will probably dictate that eventually ..
Keep Stinger as Genesis' premier GT .. (sportback)
Eventually come out with a pure sports vehicle/supercar ..
Call it .................. the Scorpion? (similar to directly compete vs. NSX)
The Stinger honestly does not belong with other Kia's ..
It's a class above the others, and deserves better care/service under a true premium brand ..
The engine has so much torque with all wheel drive will beat most muscle cars off the line. Loaded with so many features found on high end vehicles.
If I didn’t need to pull a trailer this would be very high on my list with winter tires.
Can you do a review of the Genesis gv70 when it comes out?
I really like the fake hood vents. Looks sharp and makes the car distinguishable.
Oh how I miss Vancouver BC (from Seattle, damn covid). Trying to find a way to parlay my 2015 MB C300 into one of these without too paying too much of a difference.
Great review thanks for including my question!!!
Thank you for participating. Really glad you enjoyed the review.
Love the new logo, because older was very outdated, and looking cheap.
Nice Smile Andrea ;)
Too many ads now, especially in between videos. Great review.
We don't control the ads, but glad you liked the review. :)
Huh? Didn’t see a single ad. Pls google how.
I love the Stinger and I want one............ :-)
I always love the Porsche reviews
Apologies, if this is a repeat. The relatively better Canadian price is likely compensation for the Canadian warranty being 5 years when the US gets 10 years. Still, a hell of a deal for a great car.
I’m jealous of the red seatbelts.
I was watching the 94 World Cup and remember that they were offering 2 Kia Rio's for $28k. Lol. They've come a loooooong way
Holy crap, this is the price of a high end Mini Countryman!
Yup
But better in every way
Kia is really bring out some really interesting products. I really like the look of this car but couldn't agree more about those fake vents on the hood Zach. I think the Kia EV6 moves their design language even further. It's really sharp and the GT version is going to be a ripper. Fast that is.
Did they fix the fire risks from brake fluid shorting out the electronics? What about the flimsy DCT?
Seriously considering this as a replacement to my 07 TL Type-S. I'm kinda torn between this and the new TLX Type-S but that is gonna be more expensive and less practical.
Acura butchered the new generation TLX ergonomics. It's huge on the outside but has an interior space of a compact car. Makes no sense.
I have a Is-f as a spare car. Better than this & super reliable.
@@a88888888a The IS-F is tiny, and seats only four. My TL is barely practical enough for what I do outside of driving for enjoyment (camp, hike, road trip, off road on forest service roads at times, winter driving with chains). Plus, it's way more expensive. The upcoming IS500 is rumored to be about $78k CAD MSRP.
That’s an amazing car, and if you actually are a car enthusiast rather than a badge snob, it’s a magnificent vehicle, no matter who makes it. It has a great warranty and it’s loaded with features, what’s not to like?
Love it!
@@andreaspencer9813 Andrea, love the areas you film too, the Endowment Lands etc. My Dad taught at UBC and I grew up in Kerrisdale, so I love seeing the places I grew up in featured in your videos. Makes me homesick. 😉👍
@@tlevans62 I went to Magee and figure skated out of the Kerrisdale Figure Skating Club. I don't know how many times I visited that McDonalds lol! Remember the Red Onion? Glad you can reminisce about the great areas when you watch our reviews. I can understand why you are homesick.
@@andreaspencer9813 OMG, I went to Magee as well, class of '79 so I'm ancient! I used to basically live at the rink in Winter and got up to no good at the Mickey Ds there a lot after school. Small world! Moved to Australia after high school, and been traveling the World ever since. Love your channel and you certainly are adding something special to the car review genre and love the Cars and Coffee segment. I think I better follow you on Instagram now, you and Zack keep up the fantastic job and I'm always looking forward to your videos. Cheers!
@@tlevans62 OMG is right, what a small world. I've never been to Australia, but would love to go one day. Mickey Ds is exactly what we called it, I can't tell you how many ice-creams and Big Macs I had lol! Thank you, really glad you are enjoying the channel, we are happy to hear it. Yes, follow along on IG, I give a quick review of all the vehicles we are reviewing that week. Lots of followers chime in with comments, it's a lot of fun. I'll also let you know when all the videos drop on the channel and I always do Nightlife in my stories. Would love to have you!
Is the 2022 Kia Stinger GT2 AWD better than the 2021 Kia Stinger GT2 AWD, is there any difference (pricing, equipment, technically,...)?. 🤔
Can you plastic dip the steering wheel Kia log too?
Great video, as usual. Wondering why you let the A7 go?? Starting to give you problems ? Expensive major service due?? Or just getting old?
No, we had a chance to buy a Cayenne so we traded it in. We had zero problems with the Audi.
@@Motormouth... Good to hear, and enjoy your new ride.! I love your reviews, so well thought out and done.
I’m confused, did you like it?
No one has mentioned the Volkswagen Arteon which also is the same body style and closer to the Stinger in price. How does it compete?
It's a 4-cylinder engine which is why we didn't pick it. Less horsepower. Although, in the US you do get the smaller 4-cylinder so sure I suppose it could be a competitor.
It’s basically the same car but worse tech, cheaper interior and 100 less hp for the same money
Kia makes really nice cars
How is the rear visibility? The rear window looks small ... Also, does the suede surface feels hot and is it not easy to maintain?
Nice car ! Regards for People's Republic of Canada !
keep these comparisons up!
Would have been cool to have a scorpion symbol on the hood.
I liked the ruby red seat belts for a second and then suddenly they looked like ribbons. I wouldn't want to resemble a present as I'm driving. I don't understand suede in a car. Unlike leather, which gets softer and richer from oils from the hand, suede stains. That might look cool on a jacket, but not a car interior. Otherwise, I love this car! I might someday like to have a sporty second car and this should be on my list. By the way, your region is very beautiful! I love seeing the streetscapes as you drive along. You must love living in Vancouver.
"Heads are jerking" lol.. Shout out to the old school gutter minds out there lol
I know it doesn’t compare to VW Arteon from a power perspective but price - it certainly does! Which one would you pick? Arteon or Stinger?
The new logo doesn’t seem to suit a car brand, bit at least it’s much better than the previous.
Love the wheels - reminiscent of the BMW Comp.
"but"
Good review
Would you choose nappa leather over this suede?
You guys are so cool together, you should start a couples advice chat , Jaja
That might be fun! Maybe a podcast....hmmmm
no one bought the 4 cylinder stinger because they didn't sell them here. I would love to get the 2.5L stinger
They sold em but was the same 2.0T from sonata and optima. Was pointless to have it and get smoked by an Accord.
like this review...well done.
Glad you enjoyed it
Andrea, jerking? Besides missing this video the first time (?) I really enjoyed this video. I’ve driven the 2.5 and the 3.3 in AWD and the 2.5 is surprisingly good. It’s quick off the line but the 3.3 has more guts in the midrange to top end. If I were in the market here in the US, I’d go for the 2.5 AWD fully loaded for under $45,000 US. I think the Stinger with either engine is a bargain. It’s a shame that Kia might cancel Stinger after the 22 model.
As other youtube said, Stinger is literally the best car that no one's buying lol. I need people to buy so I can pick up a used one
Wouldn’t the A35 or CLA35 be competitive it in regards to a sports sedan?
Which Stinger model has the "Stinger" brand name in the center of the trunk door? or was that a earlier model year or the Scorpion model I keep hearing about.
I bought a 2021 GT1 RWD in Ceramic Silver a few months ago. Sticker was $50K, I paid $41K. BMW would never do that.
Thanks for sharing!
I’m not sure you completely answered the reserved question regarding this car vs rivals and their price differences.
I’d also like to know...How is the perceived build quality and handling vs the German rivals (which I know feel very solid)?
53,0000 is a lot for something that is going to possibly creek, rattle, wear prematurely, and basically fall apart. Do you think it will hold together well?
Kia makes much more reliable vehicles than any German brand and they are in the top 10 for reliability
I didn't see this question in the comments section but... Given the huge price increase for the 2021 Genesis G80 would you recommend this new Stinger over the G80? Thanks for the great review.
Kia Stinger, much more better overall compared to the BMW 3 and 4 Series and Mercedes-Benz C-Series, but at a lower price... (more value for money)!.👍🏼👌🏼😉😍😎
Fair enough!
Wish they gave it a manual , would appeal to us enthusiasts
You guys are so lovely lol great video and cool car
What is the cost?
The price difference is partly in the warranty. Canada = 5 years 100,000km The US is 10 years 100,000 MILES! Still, perhaps you can buy an extended warranty through Kia Canada to bridge the gap. With all of Kia's engine recalls over the last few years - it would be good to get a warranty (but then that is true for all the German cars as well).
0:11 well done Andrea 🤣
So fun!
What about the Stinger compared to the VW Arteon?
Yes, absolutely, it's a great comparison. I guess we just picked cars with the more powerful engine. But in the US, you can get the turbocharged 4-cylinder so we should have considered it. Thanks for sharing!