I've seen too many people online have weird issues with PSA Sabre's to consider purchasing one when a BCM upper/random lower build costs about the same. Or for that matter a stripped Super Duty from Geissele on any major holiday. Legitimately cannot beat that value.
@@simonriley8908anyone that carries geissele parts. I think the triggers and other parts are on sale right now at primary arms, Brownells, midway, & dirtybird just to name a few. Uppers are probably slightly discounted but not like they are during the holiday sales when everyone is trying to get rid of their overstock for the year
Yes, but only to a point, Night vision aside. Gear is important, like I said in the video. BUT, training and mindset will also be the most important things.
Thanks for this video @EOTECH. Any outside of the box info pushed to the avg person is beneficial for everyone. Everyone trash talking, should probably be at work, or gaining more experience. I've run many mil issued platforms overseas. My primary at home is a PSA build. Great video.
I remember my EO Tech crapping the bed on me in the middle of a 2 way range. Good times. Swapped out for another one and it happened again. That expensive holographic site definitely missed some QA/QC steps which eventually led to a significant law suit. Life > budget, eotech can definitely speak to lessons learned on quality>price.
Great video hard to be FN barrels and microbest bcg's but I prefer BCM bcg's but they are definitely heading in the right direction especially for a duty style rig!!!!!
A lot of people not listening to the whole video. Like you said psa knows other companies build better parts and that is why they introduced the sabre line. Best parts from all manufactures.
Wow! that's rich, coming from someone that spent more on Eotech optics, than what was spent on the firearm. however I would mention that, the Eotech optics probably didn't cost him anything, considering he's employed by Eotech.
No the optics don't cost us to use in our own media, however other things do. The point of the video is where can you save and where do you need to spend based on where manufacturing has come and how much things cost these days.
Did they hang? Much like past conflicts, the US military dominated at the tactical level, winning almost all engagements, but ultimately losing the war. We don't need to justify our pricing, optics manufacturing is expensive when compared to some other parts of the firearms industry, and less than others. We make optics we stand behind and we are good with that.
@@eotechinc Yes. Yes they did hang. If you win most engagements that means you should have less people to fight and easily take command of your AO but that isn’t what happened. Afghanistan is a prime example. As time goes on and technology advances I was always under the impression that things were supposed to get cheaper but I’m seeing the opposite of that in every trade. Glass manufacturing has been around for a very very long time. Yes the tech and process used to make modern glass/optics is very advanced but I don’t feel it justifies a 500+ price tag for a damn red dot. I’m not a hater y’all make a fantastic product but I’m not down with the price gouging trend that’s going on in all trades. I just see it as greed.
@@DYLICIOUSPRODUCTIONSis not a red dot. Is made in the US by adults with health insurance, 401k, etc. I don't own any Eotech products but know manufacturing. If you want to buy Chinese made optics, that is fine. Just know people in China don't make even close to what Americans earn. Also don't have to deal with the EPA, OSHA, etc. Even if they make the same product, which they don't, theu can sell it for less. And is not called price gouging by greedy people. Is called inflation caused by greedy/corrupt politicians and bankers.
@@Warrior_Pilgrim You think it was only china and Russia supplying groups like isis or the taliban? Turkey and the CIA had a much larger role in supplying those groups with weapons and ammo. Besides not all the combatants we faced were isis or taliban. Allot of em were local militias who wanted both foreigners and terrorist groups off their land. We would do the same thing if it were us.
@@eotechinc it was announced at shot show, and I haven’t seen it for sale anywhere since. Even on your site it says arrival for summer 2024 and out of stock
I really wish eotech would make/use a good auto on/off shake awake system and get more than 500-1k battery life out of a “premium” $600+ optic. Maybe implement some solar charging ability. If cheap Chinese engineers can figure it out, surely you guys can too. I mean some of the parts in the exps sights are already made in china…
It's been almost 3 years since I've changes my Cr123 batt in my EXPS3 . My optic is on close to 24 hours a month while shooting matches . I'm not saying batt life is over rated . I'm just stating a fact I havent changed my batt in 30 months and my EXPS3 was made in 2017 . It has an auto shut off which is good to have . Most shake awakes is not something I would rely on if in harm's way . EXPS2-2 or EXPS3 paired with G43 MAGNIFIER or Vortex Micro 3x is a pretty legit setup for 450Y and in . That Eotech is crystal clear when paired with 3x MAGNIFIER .
@@seanwhite304 yeah I just don’t want to have to think about turning it on if I have to jump out of bed and grab my rifle. If the shake awake fails well then it’s the same as the eotech. Just have to turn it on manually. I have a prism on my grab n go rifle so worst case I can still use the reticle with my white light or ambient light if it’s not dark out if the illumination goes out completely. I’ll definitely get the exps3 when I get a nv setup going. There’s nothing better for passive aiming with nods from what I’ve seen. For regular use I really like the holosun 510c. They’re pretty rugged for a wide windowed red dot. Only downside is if something somehow breaks the objective lens, your fucked but I’ve seen them take a ton of abuse and I baby mine for now or try to. It’s had a few falls from waist height and been ok. 😂 Would I take it to Afghanistan? Idk. Probably not if Uncle Sam is handing out aim points and eotechs. I won’t turn down a free one lol
Living in SC I wouldn't mind supporting PSA but I have not seen enough consistency from them to justify purchasing anything with their name on it. I think they are doing a lot to try and fix the terrible reputation they once had but I still have not seen enough consistency for me to justify purchasing them for serious use (training, duty, and whatever else). I am very curious as to what products they make for other companies. Usually you always hear about them using other brands products.
I love eotech. I've owned the exps 2 and the exps 3 for a while now, and they're great. They are expensive, though, and definitely NOT budget. They're worth every penny. But hearing a rep from a high-end company talk budget is odd. Eotech wouldn't even be in the conversation of a "budget" anything.
No we would not, but that's not the point of the video. Some things, due to manufacturing improvements or the nature of the product are less expensive but still quality, some things like optics, especially magnified and holographic optics cost more.
Thanks for teaching me how to ditch you and go for a more budget friendly scope because as you’re saying, Chinese scope is as good as your highly overpriced products!
He specifically said good glass is expensive to produce and it is. It's very tricky and there are only a few companies in the world producing high quality optic glass. EOTech is engineered in Michigan so they're paying American workers non-slave labor wages. You get what you pay for. Your entire comment was just an excuse to insinuate Eotech is price gouging. If you can make it for less, please do!
Obviously, you did not get the sarcasm. Him saying PSA is as good which I disagree and I will not bet my life on it. I have actually served in a real combat action environment, and I bet you my life that that piece of crab will not last a day in a Warzone so if you’re convincing me, PSA is as good as any combat proven rifle then I will tell you that I don’t have to spend my money on a high end brand like eotech and I’ll just go buy some Chinese crap!
Michigander here, Can I please have 1 free vudu? I’d like to make an informed decision without going broke. I don’t want to, “trust a man on the internet.” I purchased the Eotech holographic for my Wilson combat,completely awesome optic, and now I’ll have to wait years to buy the vudu. I just don’t want to wait that long. Please???
@@eotechinc I’m not a man who normally ask for things.But I put my pride aside for this one.Im raising a family and put a daughter through college.Sometimes a man just needs a break. You do have a great product and I don’t think anyone would disagree!!
A p&w 13.7" makes no sense. You sacrifice barrel length for muzzle device length and that's just foolish. Otherwise, enjoyable video. Now where's the civilian OGL?!
I use to think that I wouldn't need more than my Nissan 350z cuz I lived in the city. Than I found myself on the highway ALOT and quickly realized the Z didn't have enough juice. Same concept with the 556 yea its cool in certain areas but it just doesn't have enough juice to be considered well rounded; in case someone starts shooting at u from distance on a highway or an open area where there is no cover or trees. Why do u think our military is leaving the 556 for the 6arc and 6.8x51? They found themselves in more open areas than not. I'd rather have options than be confined to just the woods.
I've seen too many people online have weird issues with PSA Sabre's to consider purchasing one when a BCM upper/random lower build costs about the same. Or for that matter a stripped Super Duty from Geissele on any major holiday. Legitimately cannot beat that value.
I’ve got a BCM and a PSA. BCM shoots so much nicer.
Who specifically is selling the holiday stripped super duty uppers?
@@rrr3r2 I'm curious how exactly does the BCM shoot nicer than the PSA Sabre?
@@simonriley8908anyone that carries geissele parts. I think the triggers and other parts are on sale right now at primary arms, Brownells, midway, & dirtybird just to name a few. Uppers are probably slightly discounted but not like they are during the holiday sales when everyone is trying to get rid of their overstock for the year
You could def build a equal to higher quality AR for the dough you spend on a Sabre.
“Can you trust a budget build with your life?”
Me: What other choice do I have? I’m fucking broke 😭
Word, living that poor life over here too.
Lol saaaaame. Like if anyone wants to fund an URGI or a DD, I'd be glad
Hey that's hard truth. But the good news is a lot of things are both pretty high quality and and not that expensive.
I have a Sabre 13.7in. I bought it earlier before they came out the FN barrels and geissele rails. Coming up on 4k rds 0 malfunctions.
There you go!
Depends on how long you want to live and how well.
Better stuff costs more and that’s just the way it is.
Budget stuff gives budget performance.
Most of the time, but not always. Also the % of performance you get the higher end you go, tends to drop off.
"they" are really coming after you aren't they lol
Sometimes you are only as good as your gear.
Better gear lasts longer and gives better results.
You get what you pay for.
Yes, but only to a point, Night vision aside. Gear is important, like I said in the video. BUT, training and mindset will also be the most important things.
Of course one of the most expensive companies will make this video. Yes, hands down I can trust MY budget build!
Good...wat?
I Prefer to Live by that old adage of:
" Buy Once, Cry Once....". 👌
Right on
I do like PSA’s mission statement though
US too!
Thanks for this video @EOTECH. Any outside of the box info pushed to the avg person is beneficial for everyone. Everyone trash talking, should probably be at work, or gaining more experience. I've run many mil issued platforms overseas. My primary at home is a PSA build. Great video.
This video was quite enjoyable to watch during my lunch break… lots of good info and points made. 🇺🇸
Thanks so much!
EOTech is not an American product. Its a MICHIGAN product!! 🔥🔥🔥
HAHA right on!
I remember my EO Tech crapping the bed on me in the middle of a 2 way range. Good times. Swapped out for another one and it happened again. That expensive holographic site definitely missed some QA/QC steps which eventually led to a significant law suit.
Life > budget, eotech can definitely speak to lessons learned on quality>price.
My EXPS3-0 died after 3 hours of work and only 50 rounds shot through my rifle. Let's how long the new one will last.
Sorry to hear that, but we can say that since leaving L3 our products are good to go.
No crying involved when you build a rifle based around a green mountain barrel and microbest bcg :). Super cost effective setup right there!
Great point!
Great video hard to be FN barrels and microbest bcg's but I prefer BCM bcg's but they are definitely heading in the right direction especially for a duty style rig!!!!!
You may be surprised who makes some of FN's and Microbests stuff....not saying, just saying.
Do you know who sells the base pad on the magazine on the rifle. CTT use to make them but they stopped.
We can't find them anymore either
A lot of people not listening to the whole video. Like you said psa knows other companies build better parts and that is why they introduced the sabre line. Best parts from all manufactures.
There you go!
Wow! that's rich, coming from someone that spent more on Eotech optics, than what was spent on the firearm. however I would mention that, the Eotech optics probably didn't cost him anything, considering he's employed by Eotech.
No the optics don't cost us to use in our own media, however other things do. The point of the video is where can you save and where do you need to spend based on where manufacturing has come and how much things cost these days.
Meanwhile farmers with AK’s were able to hang with a fully kitted US military. Eotech just out here trying to justify the price of their optics lol
Did they hang? Much like past conflicts, the US military dominated at the tactical level, winning almost all engagements, but ultimately losing the war. We don't need to justify our pricing, optics manufacturing is expensive when compared to some other parts of the firearms industry, and less than others. We make optics we stand behind and we are good with that.
@@eotechinc Yes. Yes they did hang. If you win most engagements that means you should have less people to fight and easily take command of your AO but that isn’t what happened. Afghanistan is a prime example.
As time goes on and technology advances I was always under the impression that things were supposed to get cheaper but I’m seeing the opposite of that in every trade. Glass manufacturing has been around for a very very long time. Yes the tech and process used to make modern glass/optics is very advanced but I don’t feel it justifies a 500+ price tag for a damn red dot. I’m not a hater y’all make a fantastic product but I’m not down with the price gouging trend that’s going on in all trades. I just see it as greed.
The farmers with AKs were fully supported by China and Russia. They had more than AKs.
@@DYLICIOUSPRODUCTIONSis not a red dot.
Is made in the US by adults with health insurance, 401k, etc. I don't own any Eotech products but know manufacturing.
If you want to buy Chinese made optics, that is fine. Just know people in China don't make even close to what Americans earn. Also don't have to deal with the EPA, OSHA, etc.
Even if they make the same product, which they don't, theu can sell it for less.
And is not called price gouging by greedy people. Is called inflation caused by greedy/corrupt politicians and bankers.
@@Warrior_Pilgrim You think it was only china and Russia supplying groups like isis or the taliban? Turkey and the CIA had a much larger role in supplying those groups with weapons and ammo. Besides not all the combatants we faced were isis or taliban. Allot of em were local militias who wanted both foreigners and terrorist groups off their land. We would do the same thing if it were us.
I can probly trust my budget build more than I can trust the vudu x being released before opening weekend of rifle season ☹️
What? We released that at Shot Show
@@eotechinc it was announced at shot show, and I haven’t seen it for sale anywhere since. Even on your site it says arrival for summer 2024 and out of stock
Ok where you finding the pmags for $8 need the link or website asap please
palmettostatearmory.com/brands/magpul/pmag.html and just wait for the flash sale.
@@eotechinc thank you much!!!
I really wish eotech would make/use a good auto on/off shake awake system and get more than 500-1k battery life out of a “premium” $600+ optic. Maybe implement some solar charging ability. If cheap Chinese engineers can figure it out, surely you guys can too. I mean some of the parts in the exps sights are already made in china…
It's been almost 3 years since I've changes my Cr123 batt in my EXPS3 . My optic is on close to 24 hours a month while shooting matches . I'm not saying batt life is over rated . I'm just stating a fact I havent changed my batt in 30 months and my EXPS3 was made in 2017 .
It has an auto shut off which is good to have . Most shake awakes is not something I would rely on if in harm's way .
EXPS2-2 or EXPS3 paired with G43 MAGNIFIER or Vortex Micro 3x is a pretty legit setup for 450Y and in . That Eotech is crystal clear when paired with 3x MAGNIFIER .
@@seanwhite304 yeah I just don’t want to have to think about turning it on if I have to jump out of bed and grab my rifle. If the shake awake fails well then it’s the same as the eotech. Just have to turn it on manually. I have a prism on my grab n go rifle so worst case I can still use the reticle with my white light or ambient light if it’s not dark out if the illumination goes out completely. I’ll definitely get the exps3 when I get a nv setup going. There’s nothing better for passive aiming with nods from what I’ve seen. For regular use I really like the holosun 510c. They’re pretty rugged for a wide windowed red dot. Only downside is if something somehow breaks the objective lens, your fucked but I’ve seen them take a ton of abuse and I baby mine for now or try to. It’s had a few falls from waist height and been ok. 😂 Would I take it to Afghanistan? Idk. Probably not if Uncle Sam is handing out aim points and eotechs. I won’t turn down a free one lol
This. Well said!
I've trusted Eotechs with my life
Thank you so much!
Living in SC I wouldn't mind supporting PSA but I have not seen enough consistency from them to justify purchasing anything with their name on it. I think they are doing a lot to try and fix the terrible reputation they once had but I still have not seen enough consistency for me to justify purchasing them for serious use (training, duty, and whatever else).
I am very curious as to what products they make for other companies. Usually you always hear about them using other brands products.
I love eotech. I've owned the exps 2 and the exps 3 for a while now, and they're great. They are expensive, though, and definitely NOT budget. They're worth every penny. But hearing a rep from a high-end company talk budget is odd. Eotech wouldn't even be in the conversation of a "budget" anything.
No we would not, but that's not the point of the video. Some things, due to manufacturing improvements or the nature of the product are less expensive but still quality, some things like optics, especially magnified and holographic optics cost more.
Good video, thanks.
$250 quick drying briefs. Yes.
HAHAHA
Good info
Thanks!
Thanks for teaching me how to ditch you and go for a more budget friendly scope because as you’re saying, Chinese scope is as good as your highly overpriced products!
Chinese scope are good, but do you trust them and their warranty? They are also part of China's military-industry, do you want to support them?
He specifically said good glass is expensive to produce and it is. It's very tricky and there are only a few companies in the world producing high quality optic glass. EOTech is engineered in Michigan so they're paying American workers non-slave labor wages. You get what you pay for.
Your entire comment was just an excuse to insinuate Eotech is price gouging. If you can make it for less, please do!
Obviously, you did not get the sarcasm. Him saying PSA is as good which I disagree and I will not bet my life on it. I have actually served in a real combat action environment, and I bet you my life that that piece of crab will not last a day in a Warzone so if you’re convincing me, PSA is as good as any combat proven rifle then I will tell you that I don’t have to spend my money on a high end brand like eotech and I’ll just go buy some Chinese crap!
Well said!
What a strange video for Eotech to put out lol
1:14 I hope the muzzle wasn’t stuck into the dirt/mud.
Kyle did, and with M193.
Imagine if the VC and Taliban had crye uniforms and highspeed compass watches, smh
TBf, Taliban kinda does now lol. You seen the vids of them larping as SOF with all the stuff we left behind?
😂 they definitely have some high speed gear now. Thank you Joe Biden.
Thanks
Thank you!
I'll stick to building my own rifle so I can cherry pick my own parts!
That works too!
Michigander here,
Can I please have 1 free vudu?
I’d like to make an informed decision without going broke.
I don’t want to,
“trust a man on the internet.”
I purchased the Eotech holographic for my Wilson combat,completely awesome optic, and now I’ll have to wait years to buy the vudu. I just don’t want to wait that long. Please???
Points for asking! But we can't give things away....
@@eotechinc I’m not a man who normally ask for things.But I put my pride aside for this one.Im raising a family and put a daughter through college.Sometimes a man just needs a break.
You do have a great product and I don’t think anyone would disagree!!
A p&w 13.7" makes no sense. You sacrifice barrel length for muzzle device length and that's just foolish. Otherwise, enjoyable video. Now where's the civilian OGL?!
This video is giving off too many Lucas Buttkiss vibes and it's not vibing with me, sorry.
Buy once cry once.
Yep
Really? Psa? Wow. I cant believe eotech as a company is ok with shilling for psa.
Talking over value vs cost is shilling. OK LOL
I use to think that I wouldn't need more than my Nissan 350z cuz I lived in the city. Than I found myself on the highway ALOT and quickly realized the Z didn't have enough juice. Same concept with the 556 yea its cool in certain areas but it just doesn't have enough juice to be considered well rounded; in case someone starts shooting at u from distance on a highway or an open area where there is no cover or trees. Why do u think our military is leaving the 556 for the 6arc and 6.8x51? They found themselves in more open areas than not. I'd rather have options than be confined to just the woods.
Glass fell out of my Eotech from the recoil of 5.56. You guys ARE budget tier. You just charge way too much for your garbage 😂
you definetly got a clone bro, cheapass...
So glad your company is failing. Thanks for the foggy reticles.
Dam savage lol, I'm to poor for EoTech to know what you're referring to. I was always told they're pretty great.