Hell yeah. This is what I'm on about. The thing I like the most about this card is that it is both Low Profile & Single Slot. Can't say I've seen any 1650's cover both.
There is actually a chinese brand called yeston which made a single slot gtx 1650 but it's very limited in production and very hard to get one if you are outside of china.
It’s the problem. There are gpu cards that would outperform the 6400 pretty easy, like the 1660 series, but the are all full size and/or Dual slot, so not apliccable in an Ultra small form factor case. Really the card is a low end 1080p at best, and should really only be a 100-120 $ card. But as is, Its really the only low profile card that can put out a decent entry lvl gaming performance, even it is slightly overpriced. Its a good little system for not too demanding titles. Hell, I still have some weired issues with a 3800X and a 1660s in Elden Ring. I have no problem getting 60fps in 1080p but some weired horizontal banding is happening while playing. It’s both a cool game in some ways, but really shows Its made for consoles and some people have really many issues running it on a good pc gaming rig.
No way man! I was hoping for exactly this build with this exact case. I bought this case last time you made a video with it. I am going to order a 6400 asap. Big thank you for this video man!
What a killer combo. Love this build. I have been looking at single slot ITX chassis for ages thinking how cool it would be to put a GPU in there. Obviously ETA is right these slots are mostly meant for extending ports from the motherboard, but if it can fit a GPU you know someone is crazy enough to try it. And this came out PERFECTLY.
@@tilapiadave3234 That's a pretty pessimistic view. There are some programs/applications that run very well with a little more CPU power. For example, emulating modern consoles at 1080p works VERY well with a modern 6 core processor, but doesn't need a massively overpowered GPU. So the build is perfect for light 1080p PC games and a console emulation rig.
Wow! Something like this is definitely what I was looking for. I hope they will still be making this type of cards for this type of setups. I'm very close to my "retro-and-some-new-games", mini setup.
Does Eta Prime even sleep at night? How the hell does he come up with a new review almost twice a day everyday??? Your content makes my day, I love it!
I really liked this build not only was it small but it had really decent performance too! this and a mini portable monitor and you can take your pc gaming set up on the go! I would love to see what you can build in the skyreach 4 mini or the skyreach 4 tiny!
@ETA Prime You do some great small form fact PC builds. You should do a video on how you come up with getting the right measurements for your hardware and case before you buy. With the video cuts you make seem effortless but I know it isn't. I think your viewers ( including myself) would get a ton from what you have to share. Thanks for your hard work and great content.
One of the best videos ive ever seen. ill be purchasing every single item from this pc build video and put it together myself. Hopefully if I run into problems or have any questions I can ask for help, thank you again.
With this setup it's easily on par with rx470 Almost perfect for 1080p gaming Considering the gpu eats 30-50w and cpu only goes to 40-60w while under load That's almost a rx470 alone
Hey, I know it's a long shot, but there's two games I'd love you to add to your test roster that can tell a lot about the different units you test out: 1- For Honor. It's not the most efficient game, but if a PC can handle For Honor at 60fps(being a type of fighting game, FPS is extremely important), then most games were framerate isn't as important will likely run very well 2- Halo Reach MCC. Being the most demanding "last gen" Halo game on the Master Chief Collection, it's still fairly easy to run on most rigs and would be a fantastic game to test on weaker builds that you normally would relegate to emulation machines love the content, either way!
Very Nice small pc build it will easily fit in my bag with cloths, I am impressed for specific cyberpunk I hope the most awaited RDNA 2 Desktop pc will be this much powerful
I think the rx6400 have only 4 pcie lanes, so using it in a pcie 2.0 computer would be no good idea. (that means 2GB/sec) compared to PCIE 3.0 x4 = 4GB /sec... and normal GPU:s with PCIE 4.0 x16 have 32GB/sec. So its probably only a good idea to use on PCIE 4.0 motherboards mostly.
@@amirpourghoureiyan1637 sucks I was thinking about putting one in my 2011 hp slim line system with a Celeron. Would of been bottleneck city but it would have been cool to revive such an old system.
@@madgodzilla12465 First gen i-series + celeron did have some support for UEFI, depends on the motherboard but there are some that would be compatible. As Andrew mentioned PCIe 2 would severely affect the performance of the x4 connection, so you'd be better off going with a x16 card like a 750 or a 1050ti.
I really wish they actually gave it 4x long connector, instead of wasting gold for full length 16x one. I could run it off PCH slot this way. With PCIe 3.0 that's 4 GB/s, and with 4 GB of VRAM that's not THAT bad, actually. You're not going to drip high res textures on it anyway to save on computing juice.
People are not brushing off the RX 6400 because it's a low end card. They are brushing it off because it is PCI E 4.0X4 which means to hit that GTX 1650 performance level you need a PCIE4.0 system, which iirc is intel 12th gen and amd b550/x570 none of which is cheap. So its a cheap gpu that needs an expensive pc to not suffer vs the 1650. Very few who can afford a pci-e 4 system will want a card like an rx6400. It's ill-conceived as a budget product in my opinion.
Another thing is that he's showing off sff case with a dc brick, all of which are going to cost you premium AF prices. What's another 150 bucks to get a 6600itx to a computer that's going to cost you 1k regardless.
I thought the same like 4 months ago and went for a used HP OEM PC "Pavilion 590". Small silver case, 180 Watts, Ryzen 2400G, SSD, 1TB HDD even an optical drive (!) for like 160 €. The case is big enough for like a GTX 1650 or this RX6400 card, if I want to boost that Vega 11 graphics. But till now it's fine!
I would agree but the XFX RX 6400 has a very loud fan and I found it distracting even across the room. I built an HTPC for gaming with it and it is much louder than my older HTPC that had a GTX 1650.
5600 (non-x) would be a more sensible choice (you are bottlenecked by the GPU most of the time so there is no reason to overpay for a letter), or 5700g to have capability for hardware encoding/decoding of some video formats that RX 6400 lacks. Imo.
@Ya-Yo Gakk dude stop scking hardware unboxed check the stats yourself, vega graphics are slower than rdna2 also R6siege is a esports fps game more cpu dependent at 1080p. 6400 beats 5700g easily
I just looked and Its changed a bit since last time I checked. I found 1 h610 for $50 cheaper and 1 b660 for $50 more than this mobo. So if you went with the h610 it would definitely be cheaper
Thats impressive! I’m alwalys looking for new ideas to build a small and cheap gaming pc! I made a portable gaming pc with a rtx 3060 and 5600x but its still bigger than yours. I think for people who just want to build a small gaming pc and 4k resolution and graphics quality don’t matter much, this is a good and cheap option! All in all great build! 👍
@@SuperMontana2008 I use a self made case, my idea was to create a portable Gaming PC including a monitor and so i did. If you are interested, you find it under my videos.
Considering it needs a cpu and mobo that supports pcie 4.0 then it requires a new build of zen 3 or intel 11th gen or above. Feel like it misses the mark there as the 6500xt did.
Thank you so much for giving us the links to the items used in the build. I know i really appreciate being able to link directly to the items without having to search.
This is a GREAT competitor to some of the Intel Nuc Extreme, this was an awesome little build! would be perfect for a parent who travels with kids, could easily plug it up to a hotel tv using only an HDMI cable and the power brick. the kids could use wireless xbox controllers for example. have a small wireless keyboard mouse combo, and the kids and parents could have hours of entertainment on the go, from watching UA-cam and Netflix, to smashing some fortnight! Great build and content buddy! would love to see a cost list of the build just to get an idea, I'm thinking of building something very similar to this!
Then again, given the costs, it might be about as cost effective to just lug a gaming laptop. No HDMI required, power brick is optional, and at least on the "frames per dollar" aspect the midrange mobile GPUs of late are doing fine at about $800 USD
Although I agree that would be cool. You could do all of that with a Xbox series S for $300 and it's more compact and more powerful than this unit. So unless you specifically already have a ton of steam games or something, if you want what you described a series S would be better. And if you need a PC as stated above a gaming laptop would be better and you could likely get a more powerful GPU than this in a gaming laptop that costs around $100 more.
@@csolisr I agree except power bricks are not optional on a gaming laptop. If you're not plugged in you will likely get under 1 hour of gaming at have the performance on gaming laptops. So you would still need to be plugged in you would just have more options for where to plug it in and play it
As parent a tablet works just fine for that, or any one of the gadgets I usually bring. That said if I didnt have a 10500H laptop with a GTX 1650, this would be a great build for me. Would love to know the total cost on this build
what a nifty little machine with the rx 6400 as the highlight , basically the ideal setup for small sit and stand desk setup , esports, productivity and low power consumption too ! great video as always would be nice to see linux gaming benchmarks
really solid build to be honest. i feel 4 gigs of vram wont be enough for long, but for 1080p rn it is all you could ask for and the tiny footprint is sick
About that comment at the end... Oh I think you're gonna be very pleasantly surprised with the Ryzen 7000 APUs. RX 6400 may even be a low bar for performance actually, but we'll see. Anyway, very very interesting build, def pleasantly surprised. Thanks!
Oh YES would you PLEASE show us how this box performs IN LINUX?!?!? PLEASE DO!!!! :D That card is frikkin cool for mid to low end gaming... I just wish it was under $100 ... I think it will be soon enough :)
I just ordered the case and gpu. I'm going to let it sit there until am5 goes down in price and I'm going to do a mini build for my wife. She doesn't game so the 6400 will be perfect for her to stream and do her light multi tasking in 4k or 8k. Glad I stumbled on this video. I love the case.
So now that the R5 5600 (non x) is out and about the same performance wise, but cheaper, I'm wondering if that would be even better for a budgeted small itx build.
I have the exact same type build with 5600G + Quadro T600 and 32GB RAM. This type of build is very underrated but have small wattage but great upgradability.
Have to admit a bit shocking re the positive spin on the RX 6400 which is slower than the RX 570 a GPU released in 2017 at $150! And only x4 with a lack a of 4K H.264/H.265 encoding and AV1 decoding capabilities. Talk about going backwards and I certainly would not begrudge paying the price as they always tend to go up but at least with a performance increase. At the very least it should perform better than a 5 year old GPU that cost less at the time and had more features..Sadly we are being taken for a ride as both AMD and Nvidia learned from the last two years we will pay more, much more if pressured!
Tempted to build one, put steam os holoiso on it and toss it behind the TV. Shame in the UK parts are more expensive, and a setup similar to this sets me back £700.
I love this video and watched it a few times, really considering something similar. I'd love to see you do a build with the RTX A2000, since its gone down in price and could be a really cool and compelling option for higher end gaming in a tiny form factor.
Definitely want to build a setup like this, awesome performance on a shoestring budget. Other than Elden Ring performance, it seems generally solid and for me anyway, it'd be a pretty big upgrade from what I'm running. (What the hell is up with Elden Ring's optimisation anyway?! FromSoft need to enable FidelityFX support for that ASAP if you can only get a solid 60 at 900p, incredible game but it clearly runs like dogs**t). Question - I know it seems unreasonable, but mostly for futureproofing reasons, do you think a system like this would see any kind of performance bump with DDR5 ram? I'd worry a little about a system like that falling behind and becoming obsolete a little too quickly 2 to 3 years from now trying to run new AAA games at 720p low...
The only way to truly get a perfect 60fps at all times in Elden Ring is to buy a PS4 copy and play it backwards compatible on a PS5. I kid you not lmao. The PS5 and Series X don't have consistent 60. The old consoles don't get a consistent 30. And PC has bad stuttering issues which causes the frame rate to be inconsistent even if you have a seriously powerful PC.
@@GhostAcez Yep, the frame pacing issues on PC are insane and I have no idea why they happen (though I did hear one theory that the frame rate and pacing issues were tied to the Simplygon rendering tech FromSoft uses in their engine for long draw distance). I'm playing on a base PS4 cos my PC doesn't meet the requirements - I'm happy enough, but it is ridiculous it can't hold 60 on PS5 natively, Series X or a 3090 on PC. And I have no damn idea why they haven't implemented Fidelity FX or DLSS to smooth out performance on PC, it's such an obvious fix but they haven't done it :( Though spare a thought for the people stuck playing the game on X1 of all the possible formats. OOF. 25fps at 900p with massively culled textures and ridiculous animation LOD's that slash enemy animation to 15fps if more than one enemy is on screen at the same time. Ouch. Least my PS4 mostly sticks to 30 (ish)
@@anarchicnerd666 I've heard the issues on PC are due to a bad anti cheat software they used for it. I've seen some tests and ever lower end to mid range GPUs don't max out in the game but the CPU is normally working hard which people think is caused by the anti cheat software. How well does it run on the base PS4? Is it smooth? I've considered getting it on PS4 just because I don't want to deal with stuttering on PC and it seems graphics typically have to be turned way down on a lot of systems to get a consistent frame rate.
@@GhostAcez I can absolutely believe it's due to the anti-cheat implementation, especially given the security issues just before launch and how lousy DS3 was with hackers and broken PvP. There's also the Digital Foundry analysis, and it could just be catastrophic shader pre-caching and horrendous DirectX implementation like they think it is. I don't think we'll ever know at this point why the PC port is so unstable, FromSoft just needs a new engine at this point I think. It's clear their old engine from as far back as Demon's Souls just isn't cutting the mustard anymore, especially given the sheer ambition of the games they're now making. On base PS4? Pretty good actually, I'm happy with it. If you've played Bloodborne, you know what to expect - 1080p native at 30fps with inconsistent frame pacing. The frame pacing seems to be less egregious than Bloodborne and DS3, it seems more stable, so that's nice at least. Visuals are pared back of course, but not excessively, it's overall art style still translates and remains cohesive. Expect reduced foliage, simpler shadows and if you have more than 8 enemies on screen at the same time, the most distant ones will update at 15fps to keep the framerate stable (you'd be surprised how hectic the game gets sometimes). The thing about Elden Ring, it's something that's be difficult to describe unless you've played it, but... Elden Ring is the game that will likely convince you graphics are irrelevant the longer you play it - art direction is the only thing that truly matters. My jaw has still hit the floor plenty of times during the game, it's visuals are utterly incredible. My advice? If you've got a rig that you're confident can run it at 1080p medium and be consistent, give it a shot - Steam refunds are a thing, you'll know if it's stable enough for you pretty quickly (you'll start seeing issues within the opening 30 minutes of the game most likely, just sprint through character creation once you've picked a class). If not? Get the PS4 version. It's perfectly acceptable and does the job nicely - it's stable and it hasn't crashed on me once nor have I run into any game breaking bugs, and I've got 300+ hours logged already. (Also, final tip - ARC and bleed builds are bonkers, try being a thief XD)
@Ya-Yo Gakk where on earth did you see the 5600g being faster than the RX 6400? As sucky as the 6400 is, the igp on 5600g won't even nip the heels of the 6400
@Ya-Yo Gakk thanks for being so kind in UA-cam comments. Always a pleasure. I would love it if you said that to my face. Also, please give an exact reference for the point where a comparison between the 5600G with Vega and the RX 6400 is made and supports your claims. Let's leave the 1050ti out of this, Steve has done the work there. We are all dying to be enlightened
@Ya-Yo Gakk I have 6400, a 1650 and a 3080. My 6400 on PCIE 4.0 gets pretty much the same fps on most games as my 1650. It's most definitely better than a 1050TI and blows the 5600G igpu out of the water. Using a single game to make your judgement is hilarious.
I actually wanted to buy a new RX 580 8gb GPU (almost same price as the rx 6400) for my new mini desktop budget pc that's been build by a certain company in my country. But i got confused with the power connector cables and everything. Couldn't find the proper pins and connectors that are attached to the PSU. Just casual user here that finally managed to upgrade my steamdeck and ps5 internal ssd. But i went with the RX 6400 4GB because of simple plug in and replacing the Vega graphics inside the Ryzen 7 5700G. EDIT: Actually later on i kept looking inside the pc and understood how to connect a GPU with the PSU. But the mini desktop pc and RX 6400 are both very lightweight and not that power hungry. So it's actually perfect i didn't understood how to connect a GPU with power cable at first. For much stronger games (especially the ones asking more than 4gb vram) i'm using my series x and ps5 (with now built-in 2TB SSD) So my new mini desktop pc with Ryzen 5700G+RX 6400 4GB, 32GB ram and 2TB SSD with ChimeraOS will do the trick for my retro/emulation gaming purpose and indie/"retro inspired" games. ChimeraOS, AMD hardware and EmuDeck are like a dream come true for retro gamers. And with the RX 6400 i can now also play the "online playing infuriating raging" Tekken 8 on steam at 1080p with medium settings, FSR balanced. 60fps. Instead of tekken 8 at 720p low settings+amd fsr performance with the default Ryzen 7 5700G Vega graphics. But sometimes i did encounter some fps slowdowns, or at least fps dips with tekken8 at a certain stage. Warhammer Boltgun now runs at 1080p with default high to ultra settings. 60fps. sometimes dipping to 48 or something. Prodeus with default in-game settings at 1440P ran 40-50fps with stutters. At 1080p with default in-game settings it runs stable 60fps. I'm actually stunned looking at AMID EVIL running 1080p ultra settings, but utilizing 3.7GB VRAM. This is with SteamOS/ChimeraOS. No idea how it will run in windows with PCIe 3.0 motherboard. But i'll keep it console-like with ChimeraOS. About the PowerColor RX 6400: Was kind of worried about experiencing stutters with the PCIe 3.0 motherboard inside my pc. Because of certain user reviews i've read. Did have a quick black screen moment once pc boot-up and at ChimeraOS/steamos game modus screen. Weird, but oke. Just got the GPU and have not tested too many games at the moment. But for now pcsx2 emulation can be run at 1440p with nice settings and everything. I'm happy for now. Maybe later on replacing the GPU. For now i'll just keep collecting physical games for my switch and playstation game collection.
That was a nice build. You should go ahead and give a budget estimate of what people could expect to pay. I'm looking to make an external GPU setup to hook up to a minisforum computer.
Steve at Hardware Unboxed/TechSpot shitting on the 6400 giving it 30/100. Totally unfair and a fair score should be 60/100 IMO. This is a perfect fit for a OEM spec build like the 11400 with 512GB of SSD and 8GB of RAM that was going for $300.
Hello ETA, I wondes if you could test these kind of builds(RX 6000 + Ryzen 5000+) with SAM enabled, I'm sure it can give a nice boost to performance here!
This is really a good tiny pc both for modern and retro games but at the end if you have all that money to buy these components...also space is not a problem. It's a product for just a very specific target.
awesome vid. I think it would be cool is there was a total cost. then at the end of the month/quarterly ppl can have a look and see what review options are in there price range. unless this is already available. would be a good way to have people cycle back thru your video each quarter, increasing views and allowing people to buy what they want
Hell yeah. This is what I'm on about. The thing I like the most about this card is that it is both Low Profile & Single Slot. Can't say I've seen any 1650's cover both.
There is actually a chinese brand called yeston which made a single slot gtx 1650 but it's very limited in production and very hard to get one if you are outside of china.
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@@-BarathKumarS I've heard of the brand. They made a purple RX 550 I found when searching for a slim gpu.
It’s the problem. There are gpu cards that would outperform the 6400 pretty easy, like the 1660 series, but the are all full size and/or Dual slot, so not apliccable in an Ultra small form factor case. Really the card is a low end 1080p at best, and should really only be a 100-120 $ card. But as is, Its really the only low profile card that can put out a decent entry lvl gaming performance, even it is slightly overpriced. Its a good little system for not too demanding titles. Hell, I still have some weired issues with a 3800X and a 1660s in Elden Ring. I have no problem getting 60fps in 1080p but some weired horizontal banding is happening while playing. It’s both a cool game in some ways, but really shows Its made for consoles and some people have really many issues running it on a good pc gaming rig.
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No way man! I was hoping for exactly this build with this exact case.
I bought this case last time you made a video with it.
I am going to order a 6400 asap.
Big thank you for this video man!
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What a killer combo.
Love this build. I have been looking at single slot ITX chassis for ages thinking how cool it would be to put a GPU in there.
Obviously ETA is right these slots are mostly meant for extending ports from the motherboard, but if it can fit a GPU you know someone is crazy enough to try it. And this came out PERFECTLY.
Killer ,, KILL the 5600x with a CRAP GPU
@@tilapiadave3234 That's a pretty pessimistic view.
There are some programs/applications that run very well with a little more CPU power. For example, emulating modern consoles at 1080p works VERY well with a modern 6 core processor, but doesn't need a massively overpowered GPU. So the build is perfect for light 1080p PC games and a console emulation rig.
@@tilapiadave3234 what GPU would you use that is a better choice than using RX 6400 crap GPU ?
@@tilapiadave3234 i agree tho the 6400 is very very crap, swapping it with a 6600XT low profile would be veryy good
@@arinocity3606 6600XT is exactlt what I got for my son's system ,, best bang for buck by a long shot
Wow! Something like this is definitely what I was looking for. I hope they will still be making this type of cards for this type of setups. I'm very close to my "retro-and-some-new-games", mini setup.
Does Eta Prime even sleep at night? How the hell does he come up with a new review almost twice a day everyday??? Your content makes my day, I love it!
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Wow absolutely love it. The way it's come together is so stratifying. Thank you for listing the parts!
I really liked this build not only was it small but it had really decent performance too! this and a mini portable monitor and you can take your pc gaming set up on the go! I would love to see what you can build in the skyreach 4 mini or the skyreach 4 tiny!
@ETA Prime You do some great small form fact PC builds. You should do a video on how you come up with getting the right measurements for your hardware and case before you buy. With the video cuts you make seem effortless but I know it isn't. I think your viewers ( including myself) would get a ton from what you have to share. Thanks for your hard work and great content.
Your videos are fantastics
One of the best videos ive ever seen. ill be purchasing every single item from this pc build video and put it together myself. Hopefully if I run into problems or have any questions I can ask for help, thank you again.
Hey man I just bought all the pieces I fall in love with this small factor pc, can I ask u some questions about measurements ans show u what I bought
Would love to see Endeavour OS Apollo on this and STEAM OS. Brilliant little ITX build, well done!
With this setup it's easily on par with rx470
Almost perfect for 1080p gaming
Considering the gpu eats 30-50w and cpu only goes to 40-60w while under load
That's almost a rx470 alone
I legit might get this as a budget PC to watch videos look up some weird shish and play games on a occasion.
Hey, I know it's a long shot, but there's two games I'd love you to add to your test roster that can tell a lot about the different units you test out:
1- For Honor. It's not the most efficient game, but if a PC can handle For Honor at 60fps(being a type of fighting game, FPS is extremely important), then most games were framerate isn't as important will likely run very well
2- Halo Reach MCC. Being the most demanding "last gen" Halo game on the Master Chief Collection, it's still fairly easy to run on most rigs and would be a fantastic game to test on weaker builds that you normally would relegate to emulation machines
love the content, either way!
Very Nice small pc build it will easily fit in my bag with cloths, I am impressed for specific cyberpunk I hope the most awaited RDNA 2 Desktop pc will be this much powerful
This is just what i have been looking for to have in my living room for video playback, emulation and fighting games.
Thanks for the video man!
Did you make one? how is it? I'm looking for a build for exact the same reasons.
I think the rx6400 have only 4 pcie lanes, so using it in a pcie 2.0 computer would be no good idea. (that means 2GB/sec) compared to PCIE 3.0 x4 = 4GB /sec... and normal GPU:s with PCIE 4.0 x16 have 32GB/sec. So its probably only a good idea to use on PCIE 4.0 motherboards mostly.
These cards don't support legacy BIOSes so it won't even boot in older systems
@@amirpourghoureiyan1637 sucks I was thinking about putting one in my 2011 hp slim line system with a Celeron. Would of been bottleneck city but it would have been cool to revive such an old system.
@@madgodzilla12465 First gen i-series + celeron did have some support for UEFI, depends on the motherboard but there are some that would be compatible.
As Andrew mentioned PCIe 2 would severely affect the performance of the x4 connection, so you'd be better off going with a x16 card like a 750 or a 1050ti.
I really wish they actually gave it 4x long connector, instead of wasting gold for full length 16x one. I could run it off PCH slot this way. With PCIe 3.0 that's 4 GB/s, and with 4 GB of VRAM that's not THAT bad, actually. You're not going to drip high res textures on it anyway to save on computing juice.
@@Vatharian some tinkering with a saw to make a notch for it to fit in... would probably work.
People are not brushing off the RX 6400 because it's a low end card. They are brushing it off because it is PCI E 4.0X4 which means to hit that GTX 1650 performance level you need a PCIE4.0 system, which iirc is intel 12th gen and amd b550/x570 none of which is cheap. So its a cheap gpu that needs an expensive pc to not suffer vs the 1650. Very few who can afford a pci-e 4 system will want a card like an rx6400. It's ill-conceived as a budget product in my opinion.
Another thing is that he's showing off sff case with a dc brick, all of which are going to cost you premium AF prices. What's another 150 bucks to get a 6600itx to a computer that's going to cost you 1k regardless.
Nice build, this setup would be great for a living room gaming PC.
yes i was just thinking the same thing
I thought the same like 4 months ago and went for a used HP OEM PC "Pavilion 590". Small silver case, 180 Watts, Ryzen 2400G, SSD, 1TB HDD even an optical drive (!) for like 160 €.
The case is big enough for like a GTX 1650 or this RX6400 card, if I want to boost that Vega 11 graphics. But till now it's fine!
@@hassosigbjoernson5738 Dude that's super cheap, the APU alone in my region costs around €50.
I would agree but the XFX RX 6400 has a very loud fan and I found it distracting even across the room. I built an HTPC for gaming with it and it is much louder than my older HTPC that had a GTX 1650.
@@MGMan37 yep, those blower coolers even on low end cards can make a ruckus
5600 (non-x) would be a more sensible choice (you are bottlenecked by the GPU most of the time so there is no reason to overpay for a letter), or 5700g to have capability for hardware encoding/decoding of some video formats that RX 6400 lacks. Imo.
5000G series has no pci-e 4.0 support
@Ya-Yo Gakk ain’t no way that apu is getting better performance than this card bro
@Ya-Yo Gakk dude stop scking hardware unboxed check the stats yourself, vega graphics are slower than rdna2 also R6siege is a esports fps game more cpu dependent at 1080p. 6400 beats 5700g easily
If my sister allows, I'd love to make a little build like this for my younger nephew who's about to turn 10.
I believe an 12100f or a 12400f would be a better priced option in this build.
Probably would cost about the same honestly. The mini itx Intel motherboards are at least $100 more than this one last time I checked.
I just looked and Its changed a bit since last time I checked. I found 1 h610 for $50 cheaper and 1 b660 for $50 more than this mobo. So if you went with the h610 it would definitely be cheaper
Shhhh... You'll wake up the Ryzen fanboy's 😂
@@GhostAcez I checked eBay and a b660 itx costs $135. It's $20 cheaper than any B550 itx motherboard I could find if you are in the USA.
@@Bajicoy Ahh ok. I was looking on PC part picker which checks Amazon Newegg and a few others
I have the 5600 and it's a really great performer for a good saving, especially given the GPU it's paired with. 🙂
Better value, simply.
You do not stop to impress me with your videos! Literally I have an idea, I google it and your video pops up!
Thats impressive! I’m alwalys looking for new ideas to build a small and cheap gaming pc! I made a portable gaming pc with a rtx 3060 and 5600x but its still bigger than yours. I think for people who just want to build a small gaming pc and 4k resolution and graphics quality don’t matter much, this is a good and cheap option! All in all great build! 👍
What case did u use bud?
@@SuperMontana2008 I use a self made case, my idea was to create a portable Gaming PC including a monitor and so i did. If you are interested, you find it under my videos.
I would love to see this under linux. The RX 6400 is the most exciting graphics card in a while, oddly enough.
Power efficient that is all the reason plus small and really a easy build just got make the parts fit well within it.
It's such a perfect use-case for the rx 6400,but the price should be no more than $100.
Considering it needs a cpu and mobo that supports pcie 4.0 then it requires a new build of zen 3 or intel 11th gen or above. Feel like it misses the mark there as the 6500xt did.
I think this build with SteamOS 3.0 would make an interesting combo, once the OS becomes available to the general public.
Thank you so much for giving us the links to the items used in the build. I know i really appreciate being able to link directly to the items without having to search.
This will be my media center PC soon. Not a priority but I'll hold onto this 6400 until then
Have to agree with ETA about the GPU card. Amazing for the price he paid.
This is a GREAT competitor to some of the Intel Nuc Extreme, this was an awesome little build! would be perfect for a parent who travels with kids, could easily plug it up to a hotel tv using only an HDMI cable and the power brick. the kids could use wireless xbox controllers for example. have a small wireless keyboard mouse combo, and the kids and parents could have hours of entertainment on the go, from watching UA-cam and Netflix, to smashing some fortnight! Great build and content buddy! would love to see a cost list of the build just to get an idea, I'm thinking of building something very similar to this!
Then again, given the costs, it might be about as cost effective to just lug a gaming laptop. No HDMI required, power brick is optional, and at least on the "frames per dollar" aspect the midrange mobile GPUs of late are doing fine at about $800 USD
Although I agree that would be cool. You could do all of that with a Xbox series S for $300 and it's more compact and more powerful than this unit. So unless you specifically already have a ton of steam games or something, if you want what you described a series S would be better. And if you need a PC as stated above a gaming laptop would be better and you could likely get a more powerful GPU than this in a gaming laptop that costs around $100 more.
@@csolisr I agree except power bricks are not optional on a gaming laptop. If you're not plugged in you will likely get under 1 hour of gaming at have the performance on gaming laptops. So you would still need to be plugged in you would just have more options for where to plug it in and play it
As parent a tablet works just fine for that, or any one of the gadgets I usually bring. That said if I didnt have a 10500H laptop with a GTX 1650, this would be a great build for me.
Would love to know the total cost on this build
@@crsv7armhl Probably roughly $700 give or take
This with the steam os 3.0 Holo build on it would be a great steam machine
Just wanted to say, awesome thumbnail for this one. That 8bitdo is a perfect addition, and the colors in the background monitor... pretty cool.
what a nifty little machine with the rx 6400 as the highlight , basically the ideal setup for small sit and stand desk setup , esports, productivity and low power consumption too ! great video as always would be nice to see linux gaming benchmarks
really solid build to be honest. i feel 4 gigs of vram wont be enough for long, but for 1080p rn it is all you could ask for and the tiny footprint is sick
About that comment at the end... Oh I think you're gonna be very pleasantly surprised with the Ryzen 7000 APUs. RX 6400 may even be a low bar for performance actually, but we'll see.
Anyway, very very interesting build, def pleasantly surprised. Thanks!
Very nice build - Looks great and unbelievable given the SFF footprint.
the case is sick i love it
Oh YES would you PLEASE show us how this box performs IN LINUX?!?!? PLEASE DO!!!! :D
That card is frikkin cool for mid to low end gaming... I just wish it was under $100 ... I think it will be soon enough :)
I just ordered the case and gpu. I'm going to let it sit there until am5 goes down in price and I'm going to do a mini build for my wife. She doesn't game so the 6400 will be perfect for her to stream and do her light multi tasking in 4k or 8k. Glad I stumbled on this video. I love the case.
where did you get the case from? i'm in europe and i can't find a single vendor
@@AziDoesQuestionableThings my bad I didn't see this I got the last case off Amazon
How much did the whole build cost? Would love to know for someone interested in doing a similar build.
I priced it out once and it was somewhere around 6-800. Maybe a little more
Never been a fan of large desktop that lits up like a nightclub. This form factor is perfect for me
Ever considered trying linux with citra? Runs better than it does on windows as it would take better use of the hardware
the real star of this show is the PC case
So now that the R5 5600 (non x) is out and about the same performance wise, but cheaper, I'm wondering if that would be even better for a budgeted small itx build.
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We can probably make a steam desk out of this little gpu and call it a day. 🎉
I have the exact same type build with 5600G + Quadro T600 and 32GB RAM.
This type of build is very underrated but have small wattage but great upgradability.
Yes I'd love to see some Manjaro or Pop!_OS testing, this looks like a great little build.
Have to admit a bit shocking re the positive spin on the RX 6400 which is slower than the RX 570 a GPU released in 2017 at $150! And only x4 with a lack a of 4K H.264/H.265 encoding and AV1 decoding capabilities. Talk about going backwards and I certainly would not begrudge paying the price as they always tend to go up but at least with a performance increase. At the very least it should perform better than a 5 year old GPU that cost less at the time and had more features..Sadly we are being taken for a ride as both AMD and Nvidia learned from the last two years we will pay more, much more if pressured!
I saw a 1 slot 3080 Zotac the other day. That chassis would be so powerful with that.
Mr ETA PRIME, I just want to say how much I enjoy your cheery, thoughtful delivery.
Such a cool build , excellent for LAN party too
I would drop 5600x to 5600 and it will be super affordable
Such a fine mini build. Thank you. Use of rgb is tasteful amount.
I wish small form factor stuff wasn't so expensive, for this $800 price point you can get much better performance
Sucks that the price in these things should be about $80. Now they're close to $200 times have changed. Still love it
The RX6400 would have been a deal, but AMD decided to cripple it with 4 lanes and not even bothering to give it hardware encoders. Sigh.
I've always been a laptop person but man.... this build is making me want to try my hand at building it...
Tempted to build one, put steam os holoiso on it and toss it behind the TV. Shame in the UK parts are more expensive, and a setup similar to this sets me back £700.
impeccable build, another great video!
I love this video and watched it a few times, really considering something similar. I'd love to see you do a build with the RTX A2000, since its gone down in price and could be a really cool and compelling option for higher end gaming in a tiny form factor.
I am building this over the summer!
A suitcase would be suitable for this. I was wondering how to hold all my stuff with a mini PC for this.
Definitely want to build a setup like this, awesome performance on a shoestring budget. Other than Elden Ring performance, it seems generally solid and for me anyway, it'd be a pretty big upgrade from what I'm running.
(What the hell is up with Elden Ring's optimisation anyway?! FromSoft need to enable FidelityFX support for that ASAP if you can only get a solid 60 at 900p, incredible game but it clearly runs like dogs**t).
Question - I know it seems unreasonable, but mostly for futureproofing reasons, do you think a system like this would see any kind of performance bump with DDR5 ram? I'd worry a little about a system like that falling behind and becoming obsolete a little too quickly 2 to 3 years from now trying to run new AAA games at 720p low...
The only way to truly get a perfect 60fps at all times in Elden Ring is to buy a PS4 copy and play it backwards compatible on a PS5. I kid you not lmao. The PS5 and Series X don't have consistent 60. The old consoles don't get a consistent 30. And PC has bad stuttering issues which causes the frame rate to be inconsistent even if you have a seriously powerful PC.
@@GhostAcez Yep, the frame pacing issues on PC are insane and I have no idea why they happen (though I did hear one theory that the frame rate and pacing issues were tied to the Simplygon rendering tech FromSoft uses in their engine for long draw distance). I'm playing on a base PS4 cos my PC doesn't meet the requirements - I'm happy enough, but it is ridiculous it can't hold 60 on PS5 natively, Series X or a 3090 on PC. And I have no damn idea why they haven't implemented Fidelity FX or DLSS to smooth out performance on PC, it's such an obvious fix but they haven't done it :(
Though spare a thought for the people stuck playing the game on X1 of all the possible formats. OOF. 25fps at 900p with massively culled textures and ridiculous animation LOD's that slash enemy animation to 15fps if more than one enemy is on screen at the same time. Ouch. Least my PS4 mostly sticks to 30 (ish)
@@anarchicnerd666 I've heard the issues on PC are due to a bad anti cheat software they used for it. I've seen some tests and ever lower end to mid range GPUs don't max out in the game but the CPU is normally working hard which people think is caused by the anti cheat software.
How well does it run on the base PS4? Is it smooth? I've considered getting it on PS4 just because I don't want to deal with stuttering on PC and it seems graphics typically have to be turned way down on a lot of systems to get a consistent frame rate.
@@GhostAcez I can absolutely believe it's due to the anti-cheat implementation, especially given the security issues just before launch and how lousy DS3 was with hackers and broken PvP. There's also the Digital Foundry analysis, and it could just be catastrophic shader pre-caching and horrendous DirectX implementation like they think it is. I don't think we'll ever know at this point why the PC port is so unstable, FromSoft just needs a new engine at this point I think. It's clear their old engine from as far back as Demon's Souls just isn't cutting the mustard anymore, especially given the sheer ambition of the games they're now making.
On base PS4? Pretty good actually, I'm happy with it. If you've played Bloodborne, you know what to expect - 1080p native at 30fps with inconsistent frame pacing. The frame pacing seems to be less egregious than Bloodborne and DS3, it seems more stable, so that's nice at least. Visuals are pared back of course, but not excessively, it's overall art style still translates and remains cohesive. Expect reduced foliage, simpler shadows and if you have more than 8 enemies on screen at the same time, the most distant ones will update at 15fps to keep the framerate stable (you'd be surprised how hectic the game gets sometimes). The thing about Elden Ring, it's something that's be difficult to describe unless you've played it, but... Elden Ring is the game that will likely convince you graphics are irrelevant the longer you play it - art direction is the only thing that truly matters. My jaw has still hit the floor plenty of times during the game, it's visuals are utterly incredible. My advice? If you've got a rig that you're confident can run it at 1080p medium and be consistent, give it a shot - Steam refunds are a thing, you'll know if it's stable enough for you pretty quickly (you'll start seeing issues within the opening 30 minutes of the game most likely, just sprint through character creation once you've picked a class). If not? Get the PS4 version. It's perfectly acceptable and does the job nicely - it's stable and it hasn't crashed on me once nor have I run into any game breaking bugs, and I've got 300+ hours logged already. (Also, final tip - ARC and bleed builds are bonkers, try being a thief XD)
I am not 100% happy with the release of this GPU, but this is exactly why I love those tiny GPUs.
@Ya-Yo Gakk where on earth did you see the 5600g being faster than the RX 6400? As sucky as the 6400 is, the igp on 5600g won't even nip the heels of the 6400
@Ya-Yo Gakk biggest lie I've seen today
@Ya-Yo Gakk trolling much?
@Ya-Yo Gakk thanks for being so kind in UA-cam comments. Always a pleasure. I would love it if you said that to my face.
Also, please give an exact reference for the point where a comparison between the 5600G with Vega and the RX 6400 is made and supports your claims. Let's leave the 1050ti out of this, Steve has done the work there. We are all dying to be enlightened
@Ya-Yo Gakk I have 6400, a 1650 and a 3080. My 6400 on PCIE 4.0 gets pretty much the same fps on most games as my 1650. It's most definitely better than a 1050TI and blows the 5600G igpu out of the water. Using a single game to make your judgement is hilarious.
Brilliant build!! Well done ETA Prime 😀😀😀
This is how PC should be , and this my future build with new platform RX 7700 and RYZEN 7700
I actually wanted to buy a new RX 580 8gb GPU (almost same price as the rx 6400) for my new mini desktop budget pc that's been build by a certain company in my country.
But i got confused with the power connector cables and everything.
Couldn't find the proper pins and connectors that are attached to the PSU.
Just casual user here that finally managed to upgrade my steamdeck and ps5 internal ssd.
But i went with the RX 6400 4GB because of simple plug in and replacing the Vega graphics inside the Ryzen 7 5700G.
EDIT: Actually later on i kept looking inside the pc and understood how to connect a GPU with the PSU.
But the mini desktop pc and RX 6400 are both very lightweight and not that power hungry.
So it's actually perfect i didn't understood how to connect a GPU with power cable at first.
For much stronger games (especially the ones asking more than 4gb vram) i'm using my series x and ps5 (with now built-in 2TB SSD)
So my new mini desktop pc with Ryzen 5700G+RX 6400 4GB, 32GB ram and 2TB SSD with ChimeraOS will do the trick for my retro/emulation gaming purpose and indie/"retro inspired" games.
ChimeraOS, AMD hardware and EmuDeck are like a dream come true for retro gamers.
And with the RX 6400 i can now also play the "online playing infuriating raging" Tekken 8 on steam at 1080p with medium settings, FSR balanced. 60fps.
Instead of tekken 8 at 720p low settings+amd fsr performance with the default Ryzen 7 5700G Vega graphics.
But sometimes i did encounter some fps slowdowns, or at least fps dips with tekken8 at a certain stage.
Warhammer Boltgun now runs at 1080p with default high to ultra settings. 60fps. sometimes dipping to 48 or something.
Prodeus with default in-game settings at 1440P ran 40-50fps with stutters. At 1080p with default in-game settings it runs stable 60fps.
I'm actually stunned looking at AMID EVIL running 1080p ultra settings, but utilizing 3.7GB VRAM.
This is with SteamOS/ChimeraOS. No idea how it will run in windows with PCIe 3.0 motherboard. But i'll keep it console-like with ChimeraOS.
About the PowerColor RX 6400:
Was kind of worried about experiencing stutters with the PCIe 3.0 motherboard inside my pc. Because of certain user reviews i've read.
Did have a quick black screen moment once pc boot-up and at ChimeraOS/steamos game modus screen. Weird, but oke.
Just got the GPU and have not tested too many games at the moment.
But for now pcsx2 emulation can be run at 1440p with nice settings and everything.
I'm happy for now. Maybe later on replacing the GPU.
For now i'll just keep collecting physical games for my switch and playstation game collection.
Mini is Smol. Smol is Life.
I love seeing EVERYTHING on Linux
Heck ya, that little guy came out great!
Very cool little build... I think I might throw one together for my living room.
I'm looking to build a similar small PC, but the RX6400 seems pretty hard to find where I live. I might go with a low profile 1650 instead.
Great video! Question where did you get that retro live wallpaper? It looks really cool
Lol just the video I needed! Perfect little PC for my girlfriend. All she plays is Bloons TD 2 and bindge watches Netflix👍
Hey ETA! Ive completely fall in love with the channel! Thanks you for putting out these videos. This build with the RX 6500 is incredible!!
6400?
@@Bajicoy typo :o
So the trick to the Deskmeet seems to be that it needs to be a SINGLE-SLOT card, right? Your average low-watt double-wide card won't fit, eh?
Would be great to see a video with Arch or Endeavouros on this mini pc, should be a nice little powerhouse
Endeavour OS Apollo. Yes, definitely!
@@MJ-92 That's what i'm running here :) EOS Apollo XFCE rocking as crazy!!
Thank you so much for including the links for everything! Ima build this
Do like these small PC builds.
This build was God Tier
The strongest point of the 6400 is being powered by the pcie slot
Love your reviews and work. By now you have about 400 devices so may I please have one? Or three? Thanks, pal! Hoping you ship to Canada. 😁
Noice. I'm early :P Love your content. Especially Steamdeck stuff! :)
Wooooahh, now that’s a mini sleeper pc!
Nice build, I like it a lot as all the little and efficient machines.
One of your best builds!!!
That was a nice build. You should go ahead and give a budget estimate of what people could expect to pay. I'm looking to make an external GPU setup to hook up to a minisforum computer.
Steve at Hardware Unboxed/TechSpot shitting on the 6400 giving it 30/100. Totally unfair and a fair score should be 60/100 IMO. This is a perfect fit for a OEM spec build like the 11400 with 512GB of SSD and 8GB of RAM that was going for $300.
Hello ETA, I wondes if you could test these kind of builds(RX 6000 + Ryzen 5000+) with SAM enabled, I'm sure it can give a nice boost to performance here!
Awesome build! I would definitely love to see some Linux gaming on this PC.
my monitor is 1440p... but I really like the look of this. Maybe i'll build it and just upgrade the GPU in three years...
This is really a good tiny pc both for modern and retro games but at the end if you have all that money to buy these components...also space is not a problem. It's a product for just a very specific target.
The GPU is so tiny and cute like the rest of the build. 👍😃
awesome vid. I think it would be cool is there was a total cost. then at the end of the month/quarterly ppl can have a look and see what review options are in there price range. unless this is already available. would be a good way to have people cycle back thru your video each quarter, increasing views and allowing people to buy what they want
perfect build in my book! well done
That power supply is NUTTY SMALL.
This looks sick!
This is the perfect size and budget for me. But you could have gone a teeny bit bigger on the case, couldn't you?
That GPU is so cute.
I'd love to see this machine running Linux!