Recently discovered your channel through your ms200t port for treeson. Thank you for creating these videos. You obviously know what you are doing and you present the material in a way most anyone can understand it. I have always wanted to get into porting. I have an ms461 so this video is a huge help. Honestly just from watching the ms200t porting video several times I was confident enough in porting my ms461 but this is one better. I have done quite a bit of research but nothing compares to the quality and value of information you present. Thank you
friggin awesome. new arborist in training right now. dont have a stihl but dang, your knowledge and connection with the people out there risking their lives to save others.. honor. God bless your ability. thanks for the post up!
Thanks man... it might ge take a little hectic but I do clean the shop every night when I am done and get reorganized after every saw... I can't stand a messy workplace.. my dream shop would look like an operating room mixed with a log cabin lol
@@johnscustomsaws Hey John I really enjoy your content and NO B.S. approach to what you do. Anyhow, quick question. Do you ever cut the piston skirt on the 461s?
@@jad2484 glad u can appreciate that I don't sugarcoat things lol... I don't cut the skirts tho on any pistons really... not saying I never have but I don't on any standard builds... some hybrids I have to but thats only to get the intake in check usually... 461s love big intakes you almost can't go too big ... I have a few videos on the channel of a 461 cylinder I went to the extreme... to the point of comical and it is one of the best running 461s I have ever ran... until I blew it up with nitrous 😬... twice 🤦♂️.... okay 3 times if I am honest 🤷♂️
Never leave the oil pump dry… I use a couple big black Home Depot trash bags with a little tape between layers… you could actually ship it with fuel and it’s never letting out any odor… That’s a badass saw and I want one!!! Everything that you’ve said and done is absolutely spot on… don’t ever change your ways because someone says different… you’re on the money!!!
@@johnscustomsaws I use trash bags…three layers with a little tape on each layer…then toss it in a box!! You can leave the gas in them and you can’t smell shit!!! Drain and leave caps off sitting cap side down for a couple days and it’ll dry…rinse out both tanks with 70% dollar store rubbing alcohol… then stick a couple dryer sheets into both Reservoirs …
Really cool that you show us the work that goes into porting John. I'm fairly new to your channel but I'm quickly becoming a big fan. Keep up the good work dude! We appreciate you.
Love this video. You kinda broke my heart when you said you wouldn't build one for milling. But, gotta respect your honesty. I'm a hotrodder at heart. I have no need for a hotrodded saw, but I have a want. I just think it's cool that you show all, or most of your tricks. You're one bad dude. Keep up the great work. Your work ethic will keep you busy!
Ported saws generate more heat. Milling is already the most heat-intensive thing that someone can do with a saw. It’s a proven bad combination, regardless of who builds the saw. Sadly.
Great job mate,I have been running saws for 30 years,Walkers saw shop,west coast saw shop, and your self,thanks for who you are and what you give too people like me. Koala Bob
Followed through on watching this video all the way through for ya, learned a lot in the process since I own a 461 and wish I would have watched this first hand. You probably hear this all the time but I'm a self-taught chainsaw mechanic and I've only ported three saws so far my 026, 036 pros and 461. Just would like to say thank you very much for everything that you do and for taking the time to make these videos that are very informative and unique. I'm a fourth generation logger that lives in Washington Pacific Northwest Forks to be specific and I've learned a lot of neat tips from different Legend timber fallers on how to squeeze as much power as you can from your saw and I'm with you for not wanting to just give away all your secrets you've been taught, some of them tricks are worth more than gold in my book. If you're ever in my neck of the woods would love to take you on a tour of the company I work for Dahlgren Log Co. and the shop I work at.We're in the process of restoring one of the world's largest yarders,Berger Mk6 and they own both quite impressive if I do say so myself. There's actually a video we recorded some years back that's on UA-cam I believe it's called flying the cats lol we shot a couple 527 cat grapple skidders over a quarter mile across a valley. I'm proud to say I was the one that made the spreader bar that supported carrying those suckers across. Sorry for writing a short novel but I have to say you are the man when it comes to Saw mods hands down and I believe you are going to make it big it's just a matter of time my friend just keep staying positive and keep up the hard work it all pays off in the end at least it always has for me most of the time with some learning curves along the way LOL. God bless and be safe out there, JH P.S. Let me know if you what you think of that short logging video
This is my first video of yours that I’ve watched, I’m sure there will be more. I enjoyed the theory on port shaping and positioning, I’ll be going down the rabbit hole of understanding those concepts more.
That’s just a beautiful saw…man!!! Wrap looks perfect!!! Man O man!!! I need to be dropping trees with one of them there saw’s!!! Boy howdy!!! I absolutely love it!!!
This is by far my favorite chainsaw porting video I’ve seen to date. This is my second time watching it! Love the channel & wishing you the best. Keep up the great work.
here's what you need is one of those adjustable illuminated big magnifying glasses that hang over your workbench, it ended a lot of my frustration with soldering.
Hey thanks for the advice on the break in of a saw. I see so many people idle their saws for a full tank and never thought it was a good idea but now I know .... Thanks!
I will be honest i even wondered myself because people were being told by the dealership to do so... i didnt agree but was open to hearing out the theory... but after i opened up a couple that customers shipped to me... (new saws with a tank ran thru at idle)... i will never be convinced its a good method... they had tons of build up and they were running hot... they even had that "hot metal" smell... heat cycles are what i have always done since the early 90s and its always worked great
I used to be a certified Mercury Marine mechanic and one of the first things they told us to ask about if an outboard came in with a dead cylinder and an excessive amount of smoke was "Do you use it for trolling (more important on the 65 horsepower and up engines) and then check the boat for an oil container to see if they were using a oil for air cooled engines or for marine use. Most people never seem to understand that the oil for an outboard engine is formulated to burn cleaner at a lower engine temperature than an air cooled one but I found one engine that was used more for low speed trolling or as a shuttle service for taking people from the dock to their private houseboat moorage that when we pulled the bottom piston out of an 85 horsepower four cylinder you couldn't see where any of the piston rings were at because of the oil fouling. But it also served to cut down on the lubrication of the piston itself and it had beat the skirt up so bad that you could almost put the thing back into the bore sideways because of the skirt shape.
I didn't get to comment when you did the build on Ms 500i for your buddy I think it's an awesome thing you did man you're one of the best at doing what you do keep it up I like watching your man God bless you need more people like you in this world.
I dome pistons in my CNC too. You are not alone. I also do a full combustion chamber shape to match the dome and resize to get the compression ratio I want.
@@Mtematiks nah it works off the IP address say ya stream it from UA-cam and go through your browser google chrome or what ever it’s the same up addy but what ya can do is stream it on your smart tv and your phone or tablet and phone but if you use your phone for a hot spot to run the tablet it won’t count as double watch time bc it’s coming from the same IP address
I found out about you through the rebuild on Treeson’s 200. Glad I did but now I have gone down the rabbit hole watching all your videos and lost track of my Saturday! When the video started I heard a machine running and couldn’t figure it out, after listening more it was Bella snoring 😂
Lol that dog is always snoring man... dude I am glad you like the content and I appreciate you watching 💯 definitely more to come and better content hopefully lol
Sporty rick here from WLS... The original Saw Nazi 23 years.. hanging it up in 2 months, yes baby retiring! Just wishing you good luck... Like what your doin, but if doin production speed up the process, slapin the pin back in flip saw on starter side look down into the piston to align pin, also polish the baffle and sharpen the top edge of it.. stay away from raising the exhaust port too high, you want the pop to give as it will give.......................... cutters will be very thankful for the next gen of power hungry saw guru's Tomorrow have 5-500i's a 881 and a 460 in new condition Monday's not going to miss them!
John take it easy pulling those starters Man!! That's what they told me 30+ years ago but did I listen? Hell no and now at 64 I'm paying for it big time. Going for more neck and shoulder X-rays tomorrow, bummer
they sure do. When Mazda first brought out the RX-7 a fellow racer here in Northern California bought one new and on one of the service checks he said it was a real monster and when he took it in for the next thing he told the service writer that he really appreciated the tune up, that it would really come alive when it turned over 10,000 rpm's. The service writer turned white and checked who the tech was that left the rpm limiter disabled on the last service.
I'm a Stihl dealer. I combed through tons of literature in owners manuals, service bulletins, training materials and service manuals. The only references to damage from running out of bar oil was damage to the bar and chain. I found nothing that mentioned damage directly to the pump from running out of oil. However, in the service manual for the MS461 under pump installation it says, "- Lubricate the pump piston with STIHL multipurpose grease". As a service tech I have seen plenty of saws with severely burned up chains, bars and chewed up clutch teeth and rim sprockets from customers running without bar oil for extended periods of time. Once refilled the oil pumps are usually fine when I test them. I've also seen plenty of failed oil pumps from overheating when people run their saws with the brake on for extended periods and I've seen oil pumps in fairly new saws that have never ran dry just randomly fail. Not much of an answer I know, I'll call tech line after the weekend and ask them for a more definitive answer. I would like to know too.
Definitely more in depth than my 461 builds. Looks like you are really squeezing some extra power from them. I’m happy cutting my bands flat. But I can see your logic in the way you cut your pistons and the benefits from it. Nothing but support from me brother. Glad to see a real saw builder finally catch on in this UA-cam crowd. Some of them tell me my doing machine work is pointless🙄
Oh they would be wrong... it definitely makes a difference... to the point that if I run a stock saw even the best pro saw they feel incredibly tame...
oh hell no man... ported is ported and i have always said there is no secret sauce so your saws and mine are neck and neck i imagine... if anyone built a saw that blew other ported saws out of the water then maybe its a discussion worth having but the truth is that we all build good saws and its just how you treat customers and quality... i saw your 461 build it is legit my man 100%
@@johnscustomsaws wow thanks for that. Keep up the great work! I admire your honesty. I’m not a professional saw builder. I just build for my friends but I always try to do the best quality I can. As long as it’s my best every time my conscience is clear! 🍻
@@fabzacres-blackcat i actually have my own design for combustion chambers and pistons which I don't share publicly and I get the performance without super high compression... my saws run 185 psi cold and last for years... thats how I landed the wildfire contracts is because they are still easy to start and run like mad... longevity and reliability is what they are after... so I do have a few tricks up my sleeve 😉
Thanks man... After getting used to it I literally go nuts if I don't have it... The new ones Also have the quick attach like the new Milwaukee is Milwaukee 12v fuels so the bit just slides right in... love em
thanks man... the baby face throws people off sometimes just being honest i have been wrenching and modding 2 strokes for 25 years basically... its pretty much all i have ever done just because i love it... sadly i am over 40 tho lol... i still think thats young... kid at heart for sure!!! appreciate the kind words!!!
@@davidvaneck4856 it was the most dangerous and fun time to be a kid we had toys that would light your room on fire if you didn't watch out or put an eye out or the yard darts you know chemistry sets.lol
known and used chainsaws all my adult life and just by hearing the sound of your saws I can tell they are wailing, there's nothing like a good running sharp Stihl farm Boss don't really know what number that is and don't care, my personal preference anyway , thanks for something good and new to watch
Hammer Down brother. Start wearing gloves! I've been a mechanic for 25 years and wish I would have worn gloves from the beginning. Because now that I'm older my hands hurt and tingle go numb. I'll share and subscribe. Love the no bullshit attitude. Keep up the good work 👏
Duckworth atv and mx, I have been in the building game for 40 years and got to a stage where my hands would like lock-up with cramps and pain. Had this operation by a hand surgeon where he cut (or as he put it, slashed) the carpal tunnel free from the inside of my hand to release the tension in my palm, on both hands in separate operations. Sounds gruesome, and it is (and a very painful experience) but no more cramps in my fingers, and I can turn a screwdriver again ect ect.
I've also been "mechanically inclined" for the better part of my life, and as such have cut, burned, stretched, bruised, and beaten my hands to the point I would drop things from my hands going numb, and wake up in the morning an hour earlier because I had to run my hands under hot water as soon as I woke up due to the pain. Go get the surgery, do it one hand at a time and it isn't bad at all. I was out in my shop piddling around with stuff the same day after the surgeries. It's not going to get any better.
It's rheumatoid arthritis. I'm 56 and it just started in both hands. Diet and exercise. Reduce stress. Sardines have something in them that helps too--I forget what?--something about natural chondroitin being good for joints and found in the bones of the sardines.
I have a 372 that I've ported and sha eved the head and made a dome top piston for and deleted the gasket on the crank case to reduce the size of the crank case and i would put it against any saw any time ohh and shaped the combustion chamber so at top dead. Enter there might end up being a open spot the size of your pinky nail
Gave you a subscribe. Enjoyed the couple videos I’ve watched so far. Keep after it. You’ll be surprised how fast it’ll run once it starts rolling for you.
The parts of stihl saws that retain the fasteners do so so that they don't end up lost in the duff. If changing a plug on your tailgate or a stump people tend to drop stuff
First time viewer but you did just pop up after a reg coats video I was watching, so your coming along and I'm going to start following you but I get the Lamborghini the third weekend of the month every month not just one month every month
When I was to younger we were used to port and polish 400 and 421 pontiac engines. In the 2020s I guess chainsaws are next. In the next few years I guess they will be doing this to vacuum cleaners and vibrators lol.
You're obviously very good at what you do but you should UA-cam videos because you enjoy / love doing them not because of money that will come in time. Everyone modify Stihl chainsaw I myself have a 361 Ported and am glad I found your channel. It's the little things. Thank you John
I appreciate it bud... im already famous... just not on UA-cam 🤣 kidding my man... UA-cam is amazing and it is going really well thanks to you guys that watch my God awful videos 🤦♂️ they will get better tho 💯
50 years ago anyone who ported aluminum used rubberized abrasive cones for polishing, available at any good industrial supply store. Brand name is Cratex. They were essentially the consistency of a metal impregnated crayon, and easily broke under minimal pressure, or even with your hand. Probably why we thought they were actually made from clay and called them "crayons". They mount to screw tip mandrels similar to sanding or buffing cones without an extended pilot shaft. Step 1 of polishing would be piloted sanding cones or drums in varying grits prior to using "crayons" for mirror polishing the exhaust.
John it'll come around you have to remember there's so many people making chainsaw videos , build a saw and send it to someone like Donny Walker , or tinman something like that you'll be famous bud .
Good work John. I would encourage you to talk to Buckin' Billy Ray Smith for a test run. His endorsement would be seen by thousands overnight. Great exposure for your channel. I'm a first time viewer myself and a retired auto tech so appreciate a little old-school custom porting. Takes me back to my track days. Good luck Pal
While others may not, I would recommend caution with the buckin billy crowd.. Sure, it will be a lot of overnight exposure, and possibly a serious boost in your endeavors.. but it will come at a cost.
I will be sure to mention you the quality of your channel and your overall lack of BS. That goes a long way here. I will also make sure that I mentioned you to my Subs which I only have twelve or thirteen hundred of but I got quite a few loyal guys in there that like to interact so keep it up, I was going to go into the same niche, but once I saw your channel I realized you've already got it covered buddy. A simple mention from somebody with a lot of Subs is enough to kick-start your channel quick. So make sure you're making good friends the guy who kick-started my channel. was aVe. Keep shooting and I'll keep watching
Good to see ya and I’ll definitely watch them because are interesting also hang in there all it takes is one viral video I would try UA-cam shorts and make friends hopeful shoutouts I believe in it 👍
thanks my man... Im not epecting to get rich i just joke around... mostly after a good amount of views so people at least get something out of it that would be awesome
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Great video! I love saws, but I don’t use one very much. I do ride and work on dirt bikes and your video illustrates porting truly well. I’m watching all. Good luck on the Lambo!
EVERYTHING YOU ARE DOING TO THIS SAW IS COMPLETELY STUPID....I HAVE A 391 UNTOUCHED THAT WILL RUN CIRCLES AROUND THE 461
hahaha you've got a good sense of humor there Craig
"This channel doesn't have any content"
The only thing your "untouched" 391 will run circles around is the shitter there bud
Please just sell the poor saw and get a cheap husqvarna... you dont deserve a stihl if you talk absolute bullshit
@Home Phone it’s okay you can say retarded ….
Recently discovered your channel through your ms200t port for treeson. Thank you for creating these videos. You obviously know what you are doing and you present the material in a way most anyone can understand it. I have always wanted to get into porting. I have an ms461 so this video is a huge help. Honestly just from watching the ms200t porting video several times I was confident enough in porting my ms461 but this is one better. I have done quite a bit of research but nothing compares to the quality and value of information you present. Thank you
friggin awesome. new arborist in training right now. dont have a stihl but dang, your knowledge and connection with the people out there risking their lives to save others.. honor. God bless your ability. thanks for the post up!
If I fall asleep I'm still helping a great guy!!!
I love the way the piston casting dust flys around and helps break in the main bearings
🤣😂🤣😂🤣
That’s how ya run a work bench! Nice and clean and organized!
GOOD TO SEE SOMEONE WITH A CLEAN ORGANIZED WORKSPACE AND A EXCELLANT WORK ETHIC,2THUMBS UP.
Thanks man... it might ge take a little hectic but I do clean the shop every night when I am done and get reorganized after every saw... I can't stand a messy workplace.. my dream shop would look like an operating room mixed with a log cabin lol
@@johnscustomsaws 1:33 oil mix is ok ?
I appreciate the long video, my knowledge of the 2 stroke is minimal but this is interesting and informative.
Awesome video man. Thank you for taking the time to make it!
WOW, the throttle response is Awesome!!!
Great Job for the Great people out there putting their lives on the line fighting fires!!
i couldnt agree more my friend... thanks
@@johnscustomsaws
Hey John I really enjoy your content and NO B.S. approach to what you do.
Anyhow, quick question. Do you ever cut the piston skirt on the 461s?
@@jad2484 glad u can appreciate that I don't sugarcoat things lol... I don't cut the skirts tho on any pistons really... not saying I never have but I don't on any standard builds... some hybrids I have to but thats only to get the intake in check usually... 461s love big intakes you almost can't go too big ... I have a few videos on the channel of a 461 cylinder I went to the extreme... to the point of comical and it is one of the best running 461s I have ever ran... until I blew it up with nitrous 😬... twice 🤦♂️.... okay 3 times if I am honest 🤷♂️
@@johnscustomsaws
I've watched those videos. AWESOME!
Keep on keeping on dude.
And as Donny Walker says...
Keep it in the wood!
You alive John?
Video, video, youtube star, Ford Pinto, staycation? Happy to watch it all for you.
Awesome build!
For sure
@@Johncustomsaws1 scammer!
Don't know what other guys you talk about, I watch happy people who know what there talking about.
Never leave the oil pump dry… I use a couple big black Home Depot trash bags with a little tape between layers… you could actually ship it with fuel and it’s never letting out any odor…
That’s a badass saw and I want one!!! Everything that you’ve said and done is absolutely spot on… don’t ever change your ways because someone says different… you’re on the money!!!
I actually just had a shit show shipping issue over bar oil... surprise inspection and it didn't go well 😬
@@johnscustomsaws I use trash bags…three layers with a little tape on each layer…then toss it in a box!!
You can leave the gas in them and you can’t smell shit!!! Drain and leave caps off sitting cap side down for a couple days and it’ll dry…rinse out both tanks with 70% dollar store rubbing alcohol… then stick a couple dryer sheets into both Reservoirs …
Stick it out… you’ll grow… your build’s kick ass!!!
Really cool that you show us the work that goes into porting John. I'm fairly new to your channel but I'm quickly becoming a big fan. Keep up the good work dude! We appreciate you.
Love this video. You kinda broke my heart when you said you wouldn't build one for milling. But, gotta respect your honesty. I'm a hotrodder at heart. I have no need for a hotrodded saw, but I have a want. I just think it's cool that you show all, or most of your tricks. You're one bad dude. Keep up the great work. Your work ethic will keep you busy!
Ported saws generate more heat. Milling is already the most heat-intensive thing that someone can do with a saw. It’s a proven bad combination, regardless of who builds the saw. Sadly.
Great job mate,I have been running saws for 30 years,Walkers saw shop,west coast saw shop, and your self,thanks for who you are and what you give too people like me. Koala Bob
Followed through on watching this video all the way through for ya, learned a lot in the process since I own a 461 and wish I would have watched this first hand. You probably hear this all the time but I'm a self-taught chainsaw mechanic and I've only ported three saws so far my 026, 036 pros and 461. Just would like to say thank you very much for everything that you do and for taking the time to make these videos that are very informative and unique. I'm a fourth generation logger that lives in Washington Pacific Northwest Forks to be specific and I've learned a lot of neat tips from different Legend timber fallers on how to squeeze as much power as you can from your saw and I'm with you for not wanting to just give away all your secrets you've been taught, some of them tricks are worth more than gold in my book. If you're ever in my neck of the woods would love to take you on a tour of the company I work for Dahlgren Log Co. and the shop I work at.We're in the process of restoring one of the world's largest yarders,Berger Mk6 and they own both quite impressive if I do say so myself. There's actually a video we recorded some years back that's on UA-cam I believe it's called flying the cats lol we shot a couple 527 cat grapple skidders over a quarter mile across a valley. I'm proud to say I was the one that made the spreader bar that supported carrying those suckers across. Sorry for writing a short novel but I have to say you are the man when it comes to Saw mods hands down and I believe you are going to make it big it's just a matter of time my friend just keep staying positive and keep up the hard work it all pays off in the end at least it always has for me most of the time with some learning curves along the way LOL.
God bless and be safe out there, JH P.S. Let me know if you what you think of that short logging video
This is my first video of yours that I’ve watched, I’m sure there will be more. I enjoyed the theory on port shaping and positioning, I’ll be going down the rabbit hole of understanding those concepts more.
That’s just a beautiful saw…man!!! Wrap looks perfect!!! Man O man!!! I need to be dropping trees with one of them there saw’s!!! Boy howdy!!! I absolutely love it!!!
Appreciate it my man
This is by far my favorite chainsaw porting video I’ve seen to date. This is my second time watching it! Love the channel & wishing you the best. Keep up the great work.
here's what you need is one of those adjustable illuminated big magnifying glasses that hang over your workbench, it ended a lot of my frustration with soldering.
Hey thanks for the advice on the break in of a saw. I see so many people idle their saws for a full tank and never thought it was a good idea but now I know .... Thanks!
I will be honest i even wondered myself because people were being told by the dealership to do so... i didnt agree but was open to hearing out the theory... but after i opened up a couple that customers shipped to me... (new saws with a tank ran thru at idle)... i will never be convinced its a good method... they had tons of build up and they were running hot... they even had that "hot metal" smell... heat cycles are what i have always done since the early 90s and its always worked great
I used to be a certified Mercury Marine mechanic and one of the first things they told us to ask about if an outboard came in with a dead cylinder and an excessive amount of smoke was "Do you use it for trolling (more important on the 65 horsepower and up engines) and then check the boat for an oil container to see if they were using a oil for air cooled engines or for marine use. Most people never seem to understand that the oil for an outboard engine is formulated to burn cleaner at a lower engine temperature than an air cooled one but I found one engine that was used more for low speed trolling or as a shuttle service for taking people from the dock to their private houseboat moorage that when we pulled the bottom piston out of an 85 horsepower four cylinder you couldn't see where any of the piston rings were at because of the oil fouling. But it also served to cut down on the lubrication of the piston itself and it had beat the skirt up so bad that you could almost put the thing back into the bore sideways because of the skirt shape.
I didn't get to comment when you did the build on Ms 500i for your buddy I think it's an awesome thing you did man you're one of the best at doing what you do keep it up I like watching your man God bless you need more people like you in this world.
Love your sense of humour! Happy to watch start to finish
Goodluck with the Lambo mate
Always learn alot from your videos John. Great knowledge you got! Watching you all the way from Nairobi, Kenya.
I dome pistons in my CNC too. You are not alone. I also do a full combustion chamber shape to match the dome and resize to get the compression ratio I want.
I’ve ported three Stihl’s so far, and I loved every minute of this video. Good shit, John. Happy to give you another 90 minutes of watch time.
I think you can run it together from different browser and it counts ;)
@@Mtematiks nah it works off the IP address say ya stream it from UA-cam and go through your browser google chrome or what ever it’s the same up addy but what ya can do is stream it on your smart tv and your phone or tablet and phone but if you use your phone for a hot spot to run the tablet it won’t count as double watch time bc it’s coming from the same IP address
I found out about you through the rebuild on Treeson’s 200. Glad I did but now I have gone down the rabbit hole watching all your videos and lost track of my Saturday! When the video started I heard a machine running and couldn’t figure it out, after listening more it was Bella snoring 😂
Lol that dog is always snoring man... dude I am glad you like the content and I appreciate you watching 💯 definitely more to come and better content hopefully lol
"For display purpose only" love west coast muscle saws too, good shit, old school!
Sporty rick here from WLS... The original Saw Nazi 23 years.. hanging it up in 2 months, yes baby retiring!
Just wishing you good luck... Like what your doin, but if doin production speed up the process, slapin the pin back in flip saw on starter side look down into the piston to align pin, also polish the baffle and sharpen the top edge of it.. stay away from raising the exhaust port too high, you want the pop to give as it will give.......................... cutters will be very thankful for the next gen of power hungry saw guru's
Tomorrow have 5-500i's a 881 and a 460 in new condition Monday's not going to miss them!
John take it easy pulling those starters Man!! That's what they told me 30+ years ago but did I listen? Hell no and now at 64 I'm paying for it big time. Going for more neck and shoulder X-rays tomorrow, bummer
Great video Bud!
That looks like fun! I ported many 2 strokes in the past. Kart racing reed and rotary valve engines. Breaking exhaust at 90 degrees!
Dude I want to try a rotary engine soooooo bad... I think it would be epic for a saw... they hit some serious RPMs ... thats awesome man
they sure do. When Mazda first brought out the RX-7 a fellow racer here in Northern California bought one new and on one of the service checks he said it was a real monster and when he took it in for the next thing he told the service writer that he really appreciated the tune up, that it would really come alive when it turned over 10,000 rpm's. The service writer turned white and checked who the tech was that left the rpm limiter disabled on the last service.
its been 2 years since you made this i hope youre out there driving that new lambo
I'm a Stihl dealer. I combed through tons of literature in owners manuals, service bulletins, training materials and service manuals. The only references to damage from running out of bar oil was damage to the bar and chain. I found nothing that mentioned damage directly to the pump from running out of oil. However, in the service manual for the MS461 under pump installation it says, "- Lubricate the pump piston with STIHL multipurpose grease".
As a service tech I have seen plenty of saws with severely burned up chains, bars and chewed up clutch teeth and rim sprockets from customers running without bar oil for extended periods of time. Once refilled the oil pumps are usually fine when I test them. I've also seen plenty of failed oil pumps from overheating when people run their saws with the brake on for extended periods and I've seen oil pumps in fairly new saws that have never ran dry just randomly fail.
Not much of an answer I know, I'll call tech line after the weekend and ask them for a more definitive answer. I would like to know too.
Did you ever find out?
id throw a towel over that open case
Definitely more in depth than my 461 builds. Looks like you are really squeezing some extra power from them. I’m happy cutting my bands flat. But I can see your logic in the way you cut your pistons and the benefits from it. Nothing but support from me brother. Glad to see a real saw builder finally catch on in this UA-cam crowd. Some of them tell me my doing machine work is pointless🙄
Oh they would be wrong... it definitely makes a difference... to the point that if I run a stock saw even the best pro saw they feel incredibly tame...
@@johnscustomsaws exactly my thoughts on my builds vs stock. but yours I would imagine you would run mine and think mine feel tamed lol
oh hell no man... ported is ported and i have always said there is no secret sauce so your saws and mine are neck and neck i imagine... if anyone built a saw that blew other ported saws out of the water then maybe its a discussion worth having but the truth is that we all build good saws and its just how you treat customers and quality... i saw your 461 build it is legit my man 100%
@@johnscustomsaws wow thanks for that. Keep up the great work! I admire your honesty. I’m not a professional saw builder. I just build for my friends but I always try to do the best quality I can. As long as it’s my best every time my conscience is clear! 🍻
@@fabzacres-blackcat i actually have my own design for combustion chambers and pistons which I don't share publicly and I get the performance without super high compression... my saws run 185 psi cold and last for years... thats how I landed the wildfire contracts is because they are still easy to start and run like mad... longevity and reliability is what they are after... so I do have a few tricks up my sleeve 😉
Watched this whole because of the love of two stroke engines. Thanks John.
That’s a 14.4 snapper driver??? I really like how that works!!! Very awesome tool, right there buddy!!! Very Sharp Operation!!!!
Thanks man... After getting used to it I literally go nuts if I don't have it... The new ones Also have the quick attach like the new Milwaukee is Milwaukee 12v fuels so the bit just slides right in... love em
Great job specially for a younger guy he made that saw run perfect and last longer congrats my friend keep up the great work
thanks man... the baby face throws people off sometimes just being honest i have been wrenching and modding 2 strokes for 25 years basically... its pretty much all i have ever done just because i love it... sadly i am over 40 tho lol... i still think thats young... kid at heart for sure!!! appreciate the kind words!!!
I love the snoring!!
Seriously though, an absolutely awesome video. Thank you!
dog?
I love 2 strokes and been tinkering with them since I was a little boy with my cox 0.49 baby bees ,good stuff I'm loving every minute of it
I remember the baby bees, right on ,haven't heard those two words for a long time. Still have finger scars
@@davidvaneck4856 it was the most dangerous and fun time to be a kid we had toys that would light your room on fire if you didn't watch out or put an eye out or the yard darts you know chemistry sets.lol
known and used chainsaws all my adult life and just by hearing the sound of your saws I can tell they are wailing, there's nothing like a good running sharp Stihl farm Boss don't really know what number that is and don't care, my personal preference anyway , thanks for something good and new to watch
Excellent work. Thanks for showing it.
Greetings from Spain.
Hammer Down brother. Start wearing gloves! I've been a mechanic for 25 years and wish I would have worn gloves from the beginning. Because now that I'm older my hands hurt and tingle go numb. I'll share and subscribe. Love the no bullshit attitude. Keep up the good work 👏
Duckworth atv and mx, I have been in the building game for 40 years and got to a stage where my hands would like lock-up with cramps and pain. Had this operation by a hand surgeon where he cut (or as he put it, slashed) the carpal tunnel free from the inside of my hand to release the tension in my palm, on both hands in separate operations. Sounds gruesome, and it is (and a very painful experience) but no more cramps in my fingers, and I can turn a screwdriver again ect ect.
I've also been "mechanically inclined" for the better part of my life, and as such have cut, burned, stretched, bruised, and beaten my hands to the point I would drop things from my hands going numb, and wake up in the morning an hour earlier because I had to run my hands under hot water as soon as I woke up due to the pain.
Go get the surgery, do it one hand at a time and it isn't bad at all. I was out in my shop piddling around with stuff the same day after the surgeries.
It's not going to get any better.
It's rheumatoid arthritis. I'm 56 and it just started in both hands. Diet and exercise. Reduce stress. Sardines have something in them that helps too--I forget what?--something about natural chondroitin being good for joints and found in the bones of the sardines.
For 🔥 Fire Fighter crews. Thats Awesome! Kudos contracts. God Bless Them. Great Job!
I miss working on STIHL equipment
New subscriber. Used Stihl and jonsered to cut pulp for Brown Paper Co in the 70s. Best Regards
I have a 372 that I've ported and sha eved the head and made a dome top piston for and deleted the gasket on the crank case to reduce the size of the crank case and i would put it against any saw any time ohh and shaped the combustion chamber so at top dead. Enter there might end up being a open spot the size of your pinky nail
This was an awesome video, loved every minute of it. Thanks very much!!!!
A SUPERB VIDEO ,OF A VERY GIFTED ENGINEER , WHO LOVES HIS WORK KEEP IT UP
I love the look of your muffler you should do a side by side stock to custom pipe! I want to see Thanks!
Awesome work and great job on the video. I’m still learning UA-cam myself. I sure hope I can get a 661 done by you someday.
Gave you a subscribe. Enjoyed the couple videos I’ve watched so far. Keep after it. You’ll be surprised how fast it’ll run once it starts rolling for you.
The parts of stihl saws that retain the fasteners do so so that they don't end up lost in the duff. If changing a plug on your tailgate or a stump people tend to drop stuff
Very well done video, you are very conscientious!
Awesome video, Love the 461. I bet its a beast when ported. Thanks John
I enjoyed that, quality work. 👍
First time viewer but you did just pop up after a reg coats video I was watching, so your coming along and I'm going to start following you but I get the Lamborghini the third weekend of the month every month not just one month every month
When I was to younger we were used to port and polish 400 and 421 pontiac engines. In the 2020s I guess chainsaws are next. In the next few years I guess they will be doing this to vacuum cleaners and vibrators lol.
After 35 mins I could not handle wasting my time on that show.
Nice video, plus it was especially sweet because it was done left-handed!
Thanks John.
Awesome content 👊
So I just finally finished this. Didn't pick up on you till after Christmas though I think.
Thanks Guy
O M G dude you Handel a chain saw with out a glove on your like a coved rebell.
Thank you for your time in posting this. I learned a lot.
Love your work John, was a great video!
great vid mate good to see how to do it we dont seem to have anyone in the uk how does chainsaw porting
You're obviously very good at what you do but you should UA-cam videos because you enjoy / love doing them not because of money that will come in time. Everyone modify Stihl chainsaw I myself have a 361 Ported and am glad I found your channel. It's the little things.
Thank you John
Correction not everyone modifies
I cant believe you grind and file parts directly over top of a open crankcase
I would love to see an MS one on your channel
I subbed and liked this video first 3 mins and Im committing to the ENTIRETY of it.
I'm watching my Man, Good video, Man of your talent should be racking it in you tube channel or not. Keep on keeping on Mr Custom saws.
I just invested 2 hours of my life you better get famous!
I appreciate it bud... im already famous... just not on UA-cam 🤣 kidding my man... UA-cam is amazing and it is going really well thanks to you guys that watch my God awful videos 🤦♂️ they will get better tho 💯
Great stuff! Keep beefin' these saws up man!
What do you think of compression slots on first ring for compression, piston mods!
Watched the whole vide John, it was great info
Fantastic vidio,, you guys really go to town on your saws compared to us English,, we just buy and use🤣🤣🤣but my that dog can snore😂😂😂😂😊👍👍
50 years ago anyone who ported aluminum used rubberized abrasive cones for polishing, available at any good industrial supply store. Brand name is Cratex. They were essentially the consistency of a metal impregnated crayon, and easily broke under minimal pressure, or even with your hand. Probably why we thought they were actually made from clay and called them "crayons". They mount to screw tip mandrels similar to sanding or buffing cones without an extended pilot shaft. Step 1 of polishing would be piloted sanding cones or drums in varying grits prior to using "crayons" for mirror polishing the exhaust.
Cratex, still in use.
John it'll come around you have to remember there's so many people making chainsaw videos , build a saw and send it to someone like Donny Walker , or tinman something like that you'll be famous bud .
Or you can send it to me via: the flying squirrel 😜😜😜
Buckin’ Billy has got to be like “ What about me🤷🏻♂️” Good people. .. Great channels. .. All hrs. of my day😎 Subscriber here sir👍
Good work John. I would encourage you to talk to Buckin' Billy Ray Smith for a test run. His endorsement would be seen by thousands overnight. Great exposure for your channel. I'm a first time viewer myself and a retired auto tech so appreciate a little old-school custom porting. Takes me back to my track days. Good luck Pal
What does it cost to do a 661?
While others may not, I would recommend caution with the buckin billy crowd.. Sure, it will be a lot of overnight exposure, and possibly a serious boost in your endeavors.. but it will come at a cost.
I put the chain catch on the saw side too. That way if it gets stolen it's easier to identify.
What does one of those cost done like this?
As a machinist I really didn't know what to expect watching this, it's a little too quick and dirty for my taste, but if it's working, it's working.
I would really like to now a little bit more about the performance of your saws
they are just ported and machined saws... no secret recipe here... they are strong and reliable and my customers like them... really all i can say
I will be sure to mention you the quality of your channel and your overall lack of BS. That goes a long way here. I will also make sure that I mentioned you to my Subs which I only have twelve or thirteen hundred of but I got quite a few loyal guys in there that like to interact so keep it up, I was going to go into the same niche, but once I saw your channel I realized you've already got it covered buddy. A simple mention from somebody with a lot of Subs is enough to kick-start your channel quick. So make sure you're making good friends the guy who kick-started my channel. was aVe. Keep shooting and I'll keep watching
That wrist pin tool is slick man I hate those stupid c-clips they can be a pain
Ha ha you had me cracking up! Video, video, youtube star, lamborghini! I appreciate the honesty so i liked and subscribed! Great video
Very good attention to detail
Word of advice slow down was showing this to my oldman and first thing he said he's like you moving to fast you have to move slow for the old guys
Good to see ya and I’ll definitely watch them because are interesting also hang in there all it takes is one viral video I would try UA-cam shorts and make friends hopeful shoutouts I believe in it 👍
thanks my man... Im not epecting to get rich i just joke around... mostly after a good amount of views so people at least get something out of it that would be awesome
There is always one who is jealous don’t let the haters get to you bro .you do amazing work .
John, good info.
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Great video sir, the dog snoring in the background has me cracking up 😂
Looks good, this is sick
Great vid, Hi from New Zealand
Thanks bro I enjoyed your video I want to see that baby in a red oak
i have quite a few videos of them cutting... these 461s go to wildfire crews they run 32 or 36 inch bars so they need to be legit
I love the blatant honesty 😄😄😄 making videos is A LOT OF WORK for very little reward. I feel your pain 💯
Very nice job! Great video
Great video! I love saws, but I don’t use one very much. I do ride and work on dirt bikes and your video illustrates porting truly well. I’m watching all. Good luck on the Lambo!