@@exol511 It was a guess based on what they already offer for sale. I have no clue on the prices of the items they used. Though if it is much more than $2,500 you should just buy a Precision Matthews machine, unless space is a really big concern. A PM-25 + CNC kit is $3,300 + a bit for motors and a controllers. You'd have a much more capable machine for ~4k.
@@captianmorgan7627 Uh, that is actually nowhere as capable as this will be. The PM-25 casting is very weak and the dovetail ways it uses are not great (the linear rails will run circles round it). Not to mention the PM-25 has a R-8 collet system while this has an actual BT30 belt driven spindle, not to mention servo motors instead of steppers. This built as is I expect to be in the +6k range if not more (frames like this are in the 700$-1500$ range on their own without the linear components, spindle or anything, just the base casting).
@@exol511 $6,000+? Well now you're in knee mill territory. Heck a good, used Bridgeport is ~$2,000. Though let's continue with the assumption that space is the main limiting factor here. Could you link me to any discussions on the casting weakness of the PM-25? I would like to read about that. Looking at the casting here I'm not seeing much difference in overall 'strength'. Given the smaller size, in comparison, I wouldn't expect much in the way of better rigidity or vibration reduction. Less if anything. But given the small size of this and the PM-25, compared to even a Burke #4, neither are going to be that ridged. Linear rails can be good. But I'm afraid we don't know the quality of these. Linear rails would be faster moving than a dovetail, but we're not talking about a 15,000 kg cnc machine. You're not going to be going really fast, even through aluminium, unless it is a reeeeeeeeally shallow depth of cut. I don't see the speed increase to be that big of a deal here, other than to let the manufacturer use smaller motors and cheaper castings. Depending on the quality of the rails I'd rather dovetails and gibbs. They're probably going to give you better rigidity and vibration dampening. In a hobby machine I'd go with whatever tool holding system you already have in other machines or that are easily available. Both are belt driven. Some people like gears, others belts. I like belts myself. I'm not really up on motors but the PM-25 uses a standard brushless DC motor. Not a stepper motor. I can't speak to the pros/cons of brushless DC vs servo.
Don't know where the VO dude is from, but I am 100% sure the machine is Chinese. There's a bottle of Chinese spring water on the table and the castings look a lot like what I see from there. But still, good idea to put some proper work into a small machine. (also, later on in the video, Chinese characters on the compressor in the background)
Voice was Ai generated. Look at their "about us" page. First look: hmm, that photo looks AI generated, but maybe they HAVE a diverse team, at least guy in front has 5 fingers, right? Yeah, he's the only one. Looks like now you can easily knockoff whole toolmaking companies.
This is sick! It's the first desktop cnc i've seen that looks properly built.
Excellent work
Is there an estimated price?
Watching your products and interested to try your small lathe,please show it working and give us some feed depth etc cuts.Please.
This looks just like my 1990 Haas VF1.
nice build ❤❤
Subscribed. Pretty trick. Do a slant bed mini lathe as a nice sibling perhaps?
I like this and have been looking for something similar. It has to run off 12-14v though.
Looks like pretty serious👍
Impressive design
this is freaking sick
test the supply of cutting fluid to the cutter area and see how the protective covers on the machine work.
I can't find it on your website
What controller do you use?
Nice looking machine. Real Hiwin rails or knockoffs?
you can add a bed to the bottom to catch all the chips or it will be a pain to clean up
Add your own bed, buddy
Price and when will be available and where to buy?
Given the prices of their other machines I'd guess $1,500-$2,500.
@@captianmorgan7627 that would be a very tight margin on it. The atc spindle and drawbar if they picked the cheapest is 400$ alone
@@exol511 It was a guess based on what they already offer for sale. I have no clue on the prices of the items they used.
Though if it is much more than $2,500 you should just buy a Precision Matthews machine, unless space is a really big concern. A PM-25 + CNC kit is $3,300 + a bit for motors and a controllers. You'd have a much more capable machine for ~4k.
@@captianmorgan7627 Uh, that is actually nowhere as capable as this will be. The PM-25 casting is very weak and the dovetail ways it uses are not great (the linear rails will run circles round it). Not to mention the PM-25 has a R-8 collet system while this has an actual BT30 belt driven spindle, not to mention servo motors instead of steppers.
This built as is I expect to be in the +6k range if not more (frames like this are in the 700$-1500$ range on their own without the linear components, spindle or anything, just the base casting).
@@exol511 $6,000+? Well now you're in knee mill territory. Heck a good, used Bridgeport is ~$2,000. Though let's continue with the assumption that space is the main limiting factor here.
Could you link me to any discussions on the casting weakness of the PM-25? I would like to read about that. Looking at the casting here I'm not seeing much difference in overall 'strength'. Given the smaller size, in comparison, I wouldn't expect much in the way of better rigidity or vibration reduction. Less if anything. But given the small size of this and the PM-25, compared to even a Burke #4, neither are going to be that ridged.
Linear rails can be good. But I'm afraid we don't know the quality of these. Linear rails would be faster moving than a dovetail, but we're not talking about a 15,000 kg cnc machine. You're not going to be going really fast, even through aluminium, unless it is a reeeeeeeeally shallow depth of cut. I don't see the speed increase to be that big of a deal here, other than to let the manufacturer use smaller motors and cheaper castings. Depending on the quality of the rails I'd rather dovetails and gibbs. They're probably going to give you better rigidity and vibration dampening.
In a hobby machine I'd go with whatever tool holding system you already have in other machines or that are easily available.
Both are belt driven. Some people like gears, others belts. I like belts myself.
I'm not really up on motors but the PM-25 uses a standard brushless DC motor. Not a stepper motor. I can't speak to the pros/cons of brushless DC vs servo.
where are u from?
Don't know where the VO dude is from, but I am 100% sure the machine is Chinese. There's a bottle of Chinese spring water on the table and the castings look a lot like what I see from there. But still, good idea to put some proper work into a small machine.
(also, later on in the video, Chinese characters on the compressor in the background)
0.04mm runout? This a small distanse
Nope, it was 0.004 or 4 Microns, 0.04 would be unacceptable though.
This is such a weird AI voice
almost has a Seth Efriken accent.
God I hate AI voiceover.
this looks ai generated...
Voice was Ai generated. Look at their "about us" page. First look: hmm, that photo looks AI generated, but maybe they HAVE a diverse team, at least guy in front has 5 fingers, right? Yeah, he's the only one. Looks like now you can easily knockoff whole toolmaking companies.
this sounds like a scam
Poor quality welds..
It looks like cast iron to me not welded steel.
@GeorgeAlex-j6k You can see welds on the ball screw mounting plate
I build machines for a living and this guy has barely any understanding of what he's actually saying and showing in the vid. Lol