Seeing the confusion of twitch chat, Flare ALREADY has a reduced cost from All MP if you have three Umbral Hearts, so you can cast it twice and then swap back with a Blizzard III to regain MP. Now in Dawntrail this can be a full Fire combo instead of Fire Fire Ice, it's now Fire Fire FIRE.
Silly question since everyone and their grandmother seems to be doomposting on the official forums, will BLM only have to cast a single ice spell to regain all of your mp in one go then swap back for more Fire spam? Some were flipping out over possibly having to spam ice spells like in that one 'play as this npc to get the caster story done' in Shadowbringers to get mp back but I'm like 'I don't think it's going to work like that'. If it's just one ice spell then back to fire, this should help push a lot of the BLMs I've been seeing out of spamming ice all the time.
@@laceyclark311 simply, we dont know yet. hopefully it will still allow for things like non standard rotos but they might be introducing this to be rid of those things. i really hope this change gets reverted bc i feel like the blm roto will get too strict and stale
@@CleopatraKing Hopefully we'll find out soon. It's so hard to sift through all of the posts trying to find out what's actually coming for BLM and what is just simply wrong.
I assume it replaces Umbral Soul or combines them. Additionally, even with 3 Umbral Hearts, you don't have enough Mana for 2 Flare after Manafont(3000 Mana Regen). Does Manafont Regen more MP now I assume?
@@larsbohmer6319 3 Umbrals makes Flare free, but it consumes all of them, leaving enough for one more flare cast. Specifically, Enhanced Umbral Heart makes them reduce the cost by one-third each, but it consumes all three.
@@nightspark43 thing about this is in game right now if you have 3 umbral hearts and use flare it still consumes about 6k mp which you only get 3k mp back after using manafont as it stands now so manafont has to give us full mp for this blm to even use 2 flares besides the fact manafont gives us 3 umbral hearts, paradox, and resets fire timer
@@jameysotelo540 Flare specifically uses ALL MP, not 10,000 MP, with hearts, it uses 2/3rds, with Manafont right now, you can use 3 flares. Source: Literally doing it right now.
Main takeaways: Leylines can be moved once per set. Amazing for Prog. Paradox maybe is insta-cast for both phases now? Another Polyglot for more Xenoglossy/Foul. New lightning spell, doesn't spend alternate resources, not sure what do. Possible new animation for spending of Thundercloud? Manafont now refreshes Fire timer, Paradox and Umbral stacks on top of MP. New Fire spell, gonna call Meltdown. Requires 6 F4s or 2 Flares to charge. No MP cost since it follows Despair and Flare in both uses, also doesn't refresh Fire timer. Likely locked to Fire phase.
Instant paradox potentially screws over one of the current possible long rotation in fire because it resets the timer a full gcd worth of seconds early
Some quick clarifications: Black Mages will be able to move their leylines exactly once per cast; apparently it just replaces the LL button entirely. The thing used just before triplecast-> Flare -> Flare-> MegaFlare that refreshed the paradox and umbral hearts was Manafont; likely this means it got a significant buff to make it appealing to use. The trade-off for the new hotness is that nonstandard lines are being seriously hampered if not entirely murdered with the changes to mana regeneration being locked to ice spells cast, rather than mana ticks while in Ice phase. Oh, and Flare has always had a special interaction with Umbral hearts; 'Consume all currently available umbral hearts to reduce the mana cost of Flare to 30% of your mana bar'. This is why the current AoE rotation as of Endwalker contains back-to-back flares without any ice spells or mana regen in between.
That CANNOT be megaflare, it’s smaller than regular flare! If it is, it’s a pathetic excuse of a mega-flare. Maybe baby flare, or mini-flare, or even better, Faux-Flare
I think that spell with the six things in the new gauge is Meltdown. It looks a lot, in particular, like the Meltdown spell as used in the Dissidia games, at least, by Terra.
Thinking on the thunder spell, is it just a complete replacement of both single target and AoE thunder spells? Or is it possibly some new ability we can use? If it's a thunder upgrade for both ST and AoE, that would need some reworking of thundercloud since ST and AoE thunders have differing proc rates of thundercloud. If its a new ability, could it be something that refreshes thunder DoT timers?
One of the reasons why I prefer Black Mage over other, more versatile casters, is that it feels so much punchier. Part of that is visual design, part of it is camera shake, and another part of that is as you said, sound design
Yeah, flare has taken I think 80% of mana since the ice stacks were added as long as you have at least 1 stack of ice so you could flare twice or more if you used manafont too, think it was when foul was added because I distinctly remember flare>flare>manafont>flare>foul being a thing you could do and flare has always reset fire. Regardless it has a very fun aoe combo. Also I think BLM is one of the changes I'm most looking forward to, no confusion on how many fire 4s I need to be able to cast, paradox is insta-cast in fire so no down to the wire squeezing and loosing fire during the cast, honestly looks very fun.
I’m getting disappointed with the capstone skills. How is the biggest explosion black mage has STILL their lvl 50 skill? Where’s comet? Where’s gravity? Where’s Demi-ultima? Where are my huge explosions!?
I feel like I need to chime in re: "why they do such a good job designing it" - BLM single target has generally been... reasonably good, but BLM AOE was a monumental awkward kludge until... I want to say Shadowbringers? I forget whether it was SHB or EW when they introduced mechanics to make Double Flare 'intended' rather than 'a quirk of the system'. Before that, it was intended that 'Fire 4 until low, then Flare' was the AOE rotation, but 'wait, just spam Flare' ended up being better. Likewise, when I say BLM single-target is 'reasonably good', it comes with the caveat that there's some really weird high-end rotations right now that are very obviously NOT intended... and the Fire 4 gauge that gives you a new finisher is VERY OBVIOUSLY intended to break those weird high-end rotations and make 6xF4 the only correct rotation. So I'm not sure I'd say BLM design has been as outstanding as it appears on the surface. BLM players keep finding weird edge cases that the devs have to either patch out or officially support.
The second I see that job stone I just shut my brain off for a few minutes because seeing the sheer amount of effort put into BLM and then the effort put into other jobs I just feel sad. They stole Kaiten😭 and even after we begged and pleaded with them, no Kaiten
Seeing the confusion of twitch chat, Flare ALREADY has a reduced cost from All MP if you have three Umbral Hearts, so you can cast it twice and then swap back with a Blizzard III to regain MP. Now in Dawntrail this can be a full Fire combo instead of Fire Fire Ice, it's now Fire Fire FIRE.
Silly question since everyone and their grandmother seems to be doomposting on the official forums, will BLM only have to cast a single ice spell to regain all of your mp in one go then swap back for more Fire spam? Some were flipping out over possibly having to spam ice spells like in that one 'play as this npc to get the caster story done' in Shadowbringers to get mp back but I'm like 'I don't think it's going to work like that'.
If it's just one ice spell then back to fire, this should help push a lot of the BLMs I've been seeing out of spamming ice all the time.
@@laceyclark311 simply, we dont know yet. hopefully it will still allow for things like non standard rotos but they might be introducing this to be rid of those things. i really hope this change gets reverted bc i feel like the blm roto will get too strict and stale
it was surprising to hear my wife say "THUNDER GUAGE" when watching
she was refering to the polyglot and it made me laugh my ass off
@@CleopatraKing Hopefully we'll find out soon. It's so hard to sift through all of the posts trying to find out what's actually coming for BLM and what is just simply wrong.
Even on 1 umbral heart the Flare MP consumption is reduced. On dungeon my aoe combo is after switch to fire is 2 High Fire II then double Flare
Yoshi-P caught in 4k
For reference, Manafont gave back the Umbral Hearts.
I assume it replaces Umbral Soul or combines them.
Additionally, even with 3 Umbral Hearts, you don't have enough Mana for 2 Flare after Manafont(3000 Mana Regen). Does Manafont Regen more MP now I assume?
@@larsbohmer6319 3 Umbrals makes Flare free, but it consumes all of them, leaving enough for one more flare cast.
Specifically, Enhanced Umbral Heart makes them reduce the cost by one-third each, but it consumes all three.
@@nightspark43 thing about this is in game right now if you have 3 umbral hearts and use flare it still consumes about 6k mp which you only get 3k mp back after using manafont as it stands now so manafont has to give us full mp for this blm to even use 2 flares besides the fact manafont gives us 3 umbral hearts, paradox, and resets fire timer
@@jameysotelo540 Flare specifically uses ALL MP, not 10,000 MP, with hearts, it uses 2/3rds, with Manafont right now, you can use 3 flares.
Source: Literally doing it right now.
Ah yes
Fire and Fire and Fire Fire
Fire and Fire and Fire Fire
... Dammit, i HEARD this.
Main takeaways:
Leylines can be moved once per set. Amazing for Prog.
Paradox maybe is insta-cast for both phases now?
Another Polyglot for more Xenoglossy/Foul.
New lightning spell, doesn't spend alternate resources, not sure what do. Possible new animation for spending of Thundercloud?
Manafont now refreshes Fire timer, Paradox and Umbral stacks on top of MP.
New Fire spell, gonna call Meltdown. Requires 6 F4s or 2 Flares to charge. No MP cost since it follows Despair and Flare in both uses, also doesn't refresh Fire timer. Likely locked to Fire phase.
I really thought the new gauge was the aetheric chart, little did I know that lightning earth ice water and wind were all replaced by fire.
Moving leylines is nice, but honestly I'm excited for instant paradox in fire. Cuz I'm bad and occasionally drop fire.
i really hope it isnt instacast bc that means the fire timer starts ealry and fucks with the blm rotation a looot,
Instant paradox potentially screws over one of the current possible long rotation in fire because it resets the timer a full gcd worth of seconds early
@@CleopatraKing I am wondering if you only get the instant cast under leylines or something to get around that.
@@dividedbyzero4
This however might also mean you might be able to get in an extra fire iv in the first half of the rotation.
Some quick clarifications: Black Mages will be able to move their leylines exactly once per cast; apparently it just replaces the LL button entirely.
The thing used just before triplecast-> Flare -> Flare-> MegaFlare that refreshed the paradox and umbral hearts was Manafont; likely this means it got a significant buff to make it appealing to use.
The trade-off for the new hotness is that nonstandard lines are being seriously hampered if not entirely murdered with the changes to mana regeneration being locked to ice spells cast, rather than mana ticks while in Ice phase.
Oh, and Flare has always had a special interaction with Umbral hearts; 'Consume all currently available umbral hearts to reduce the mana cost of Flare to 30% of your mana bar'. This is why the current AoE rotation as of Endwalker contains back-to-back flares without any ice spells or mana regen in between.
That one time thing can vanish pretty easily into charges and I am guessing it will happen before next ecpac comes
That CANNOT be megaflare, it’s smaller than regular flare! If it is, it’s a pathetic excuse of a mega-flare. Maybe baby flare, or mini-flare, or even better, Faux-Flare
I think that spell with the six things in the new gauge is Meltdown. It looks a lot, in particular, like the Meltdown spell as used in the Dissidia games, at least, by Terra.
my first thought on the new fire phase finisher was "That's Terra's Meltdown from Dissidia!"
2:10 I FELL OUT MY CHAIR LMAO!!
Thinking on the thunder spell, is it just a complete replacement of both single target and AoE thunder spells? Or is it possibly some new ability we can use? If it's a thunder upgrade for both ST and AoE, that would need some reworking of thundercloud since ST and AoE thunders have differing proc rates of thundercloud. If its a new ability, could it be something that refreshes thunder DoT timers?
I am so excited to be a wizardry pinball bouncing around the entire arena with my ley lines in tow.
Dnt black mage: "Cruel Sun"
I love being a Black Mage main
One of the reasons why I prefer Black Mage over other, more versatile casters, is that it feels so much punchier. Part of that is visual design, part of it is camera shake, and another part of that is as you said, sound design
I'm not sure you winked hard enough.
Black Mage can now adjust itself!
Yeah, flare has taken I think 80% of mana since the ice stacks were added as long as you have at least 1 stack of ice so you could flare twice or more if you used manafont too, think it was when foul was added because I distinctly remember flare>flare>manafont>flare>foul being a thing you could do and flare has always reset fire. Regardless it has a very fun aoe combo.
Also I think BLM is one of the changes I'm most looking forward to, no confusion on how many fire 4s I need to be able to cast, paradox is insta-cast in fire so no down to the wire squeezing and loosing fire during the cast, honestly looks very fun.
I wouldnt sleep on the sound design IF THE SOUND SETTINGS WERE ACTUALLY USEFUL
Black mages can't say "healers adjust" anymore. They can now adjust
I’m getting disappointed with the capstone skills. How is the biggest explosion black mage has STILL their lvl 50 skill? Where’s comet? Where’s gravity? Where’s Demi-ultima? Where are my huge explosions!?
Gravity is an AST spell. We'll probably never have any kind of ultima spell.
TBH black mage needs all the help it can get, how are you supposed to play a turrent when FFXIV's boss design has you moving around 90% of the time?
I feel like I need to chime in re: "why they do such a good job designing it" - BLM single target has generally been... reasonably good, but BLM AOE was a monumental awkward kludge until... I want to say Shadowbringers? I forget whether it was SHB or EW when they introduced mechanics to make Double Flare 'intended' rather than 'a quirk of the system'. Before that, it was intended that 'Fire 4 until low, then Flare' was the AOE rotation, but 'wait, just spam Flare' ended up being better.
Likewise, when I say BLM single-target is 'reasonably good', it comes with the caveat that there's some really weird high-end rotations right now that are very obviously NOT intended... and the Fire 4 gauge that gives you a new finisher is VERY OBVIOUSLY intended to break those weird high-end rotations and make 6xF4 the only correct rotation.
So I'm not sure I'd say BLM design has been as outstanding as it appears on the surface. BLM players keep finding weird edge cases that the devs have to either patch out or officially support.
The second I see that job stone I just shut my brain off for a few minutes because seeing the sheer amount of effort put into BLM and then the effort put into other jobs I just feel sad. They stole Kaiten😭 and even after we begged and pleaded with them, no Kaiten