Milwaukee 2980-21 M18 FUEL Brushless 4-1/2" to 6" Paddle Switch Angle Grinder Review
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- Опубліковано 25 чер 2019
- Current pricing on the Milwaukee 2980-21 M18 FUEL Brushless 4-1/2" to 6" Paddle Switch Angle Grinder Kit is $349. Please comment if the price changes.
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The M18 FUEL 4-1/2" - 6" Braking Grinder is Milwaukee's most powerful small angle grinder that Milwaukee claims will generate 13A corded power. Being a FUEL model, it comes with a brushless motor that delivers 9,000 RPM. As with the 4.5" FUEL angle grinder, the new 6" has an integrated Rapid Stop braking technology. This brake stops all accessories in 3 seconds or less. The power and runtime delivered by the M18 6.0 High Output batteries are very significant compared to the older batteries. Move up to the 12.0 Ah battery for the same power and more runtime! Tool-free accessory changes using the FIXTEC nut and guard adjustments mean less downtime during work.
Can this new grinder replace a corded grinder for most? It definitely will for smaller jobs, but for large agricultural and excavation jobs, cords still seem to make sense. With the 6.0 Ah battery, the average runtime while grinding was 6:30 minutes. If you drop back to smaller jobs that number goes up substantially. But when being pushed to the limit, the runtimes are still pretty light.
The runtimes would not scare us as the need for a cordless grinder is significant, even if we need to have a few batteries on hand. The power is awesome and right on par with the DEWALT FlexVolt. This is going to be a very popular tool for people who work with metal!
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Thx for the review brian just bought one cant wait to try it out.
Heck ya, glad y’all finally did a review.
Your not that far out from the release dates either
Great review
Thanks Brian!!
I use my grinders primarily for sanding or flap wheel. When I invariably and daily lose my adjustable wheel spanner because the sanding backer disc has a wider profile I use a havy pair of needle nose pliers if the disc has torqued its ass down tight. I always keep a pair in my grinder bags now. Harbor frieght tools apparently DO have some uses :)
Very helpful. Wish u would have seen this earlier I think I just burned up two 5.0 batteries smh. Awesome review
Great video Brian
A great overview👍Would still see the review of the circular saw Milwaukee m18 2631, there are no reviews for this saw on UA-cam.
Its coming.
thanks for being honest on the battery issue.
Won't replace corded for sure but definitely worth the convenience for quick metal prep or slag removal. Maybe even quick light cutting
I love my 4-1/2” Fuel grinder! Plenty of power to most everything; 4ah battery only lasts about 15 minutes continuous (it’s old). I bought it to grind down some floors; along with the Milwaukee 4-5inch dust shield there was NO dust when connected to a vacuum system. It didn’t last long enough for grinding the large area I needed but there is NO way this thing is going back! I’m getting the 5.0 battery and going to use it for everything else!
Hey I do decorative concrete coatings and grind a lot. Does your 5.0 batteries last you awhile?
I've read multiple reviews saying that with a 5.0 you get like half your power. So I'm going to bump mine to six or eight just throwing it out for you!
I was going to buy the 2780-20. Grinder. I seen this one and this video has helped me decide to buy this powerful Milwaukee cordless grinder.
Importing from the US is the best option for us in the UK not only is it cheaper. But the US equivalents are far superior to the UK ones!
I don’t mind paying for quality at all. But when your own government dictates the state of play in this trade. I refuse to accept their dictatorial legalised theft!!
Thank you for taking the time to make this video bud! It’s greatly appreciated!
Although this might be one case where Metabo HPT makes a lot of sense for multivolt.
Nice video brother , I've been waiting for Milwaukee to release something a little more powerful than the current 4 1/2" grinder currently available. Also , thanks for not comparing the new 6.0 to the old 5.0 battery....the new fuel stuff is optimized for the 21700 cells. However I am still not retiring my 7" Makita....
I honestly feel this is the best grinder for the DYI’er 6” is great for metal work and cutting with the ridiculous power and awkwardness of a 7/9”
How ive the 7”/9” awkward? I’ve never used one
@@Fee.1 theyre huge weigh alot and dont fit anywhere... great for a welder who regular needs to bevel some heavy material or grind welds flush but a diyer will be using it more for trimming around the house projects, metal working cuts and automotive bolts bodywork, 6" grinder isnt much bigger than a 4.5 or 5" with worth while power and blade reach/life advantage
I must say angle grinders will be one of the last tools to completely cut the cord they are too hungry
I use mine as the helper with my corded. It mostly does surface clean-up. But cordless is very handy to walk/climb & cut sth lose in the back of the yard, or high up. I also love that I can use the cordless without needing ear plugs; mine only goes up to 8000rpm.
Eryn Brady, what are you even talking about? Angle grinders are cordless. I have a Milwaukee Fuel 4.5”/5” grinder, it’s awesome. I pair it a 6 amp HO or 9 amp battery and get good runtime. It’s not like most folks who have Cordless tools don’t have multiple batteries in their arsenal, in order to change out. In addition either the Rapid Charger or Super Charger charges most batteries between 1/2 hr. To 1 hr.
You must not have made the jump to cordless tools. You definitely don’t own and probably haven’t used a cordless angle grinder.
@@martylucas8557 hey I just bought this grinder and I'm looking to buy some batteries. I do concrete coatings and will be using it quite a bit. How long do you think 3.0 batteries will run?
@@brendonnettnin8826 You do NOT want to go smaller than 5Ah. I would recommend 8 or bigger, but 5 will work if you mostly do a cut here and there, and you can usually get a set of 2x5.0 for a reasonable sum. My experience is that grinding eats more power than cutting though.
I share your sentiment until I got my hands on the new HIGH OUTPUT batteries. Honestly, get a HO battery and you’ll be amazed. Also don’t mistake the HO battery with the HD battery.
The older model 4.5 inch I cut 6" sch 80 s.steel pipe with one 5amp battery. The older model has an issue with sparks coming out it and it is too expensive to repair in Trinidad.
What kind of wheel you use for sharpening? Or can i use the same wheel for cutting metal for sharpening?
Sorry for my dumb question I’m new to this tool
I purchased a type 27 4-1/2 gaurd and even tho it appears to be similar it does not fit my 2980 grinder..
You compared the 2980 to the "old model, the 4-1/2" model". Is the old model the 2783? Milwaukee Tool says the 2783 weighs 6.1lbs, and the 2980 weighs 4.5lbs, but the 2980 looks huge to the one you held it up to, so I can't imagine the 2980 is 1.6lbs lighter. Thanks.
Does this have the same safety features as the Dewalt Flexvolt equivalent?
I've had the DeWalt Flexvolt version of this and preferred it much more than this. It was preferred because when I picked it up it had both size guards and could do both the 4.5" and 6" attachments without having to have 2 series tools like this version apparently does.
I still like the thin handle on the FlexVolt.
@@WorkshopAddict That too! 🤣
How would you rate this overall compared to the newest 60v flexvolt grinder?
Hi Workshop addicts I've got a curious question for you I've seen in the past where you've reviewed the Kobalt grinder battery powered 24 volt and I'm wondering how does it compare to this new Milwaukee 6 inch grinder you guys have been great help in the past over a few of my purchases and I'm kind of curious about this if you have any information I would love to hear back from you
This new FUEL Grinder has much more power than the Kobalt and also the 4.5" FUEL grinder. Kobalt is not even in the same sandbox.
Now that I bought into the flex volt line for the grinder and die grinder Milwaukee has them both...
I like the Dewalt die grinder with the VST and 3 speed settings.
@@WorkshopAddict
That was the tipping point for me in getting it instead of the M18.
This is one tool if you have to do a lot of grinding that you still need corded
The air gesture under the handle when you cut an iron without protection is throwing in your eyes all the little iron pieces from the cut
;what is the clamping saw horse that you use in this video?
It is called a Jawhorse. Many companies make them.
I work on my Jeep and help others with their vehicles also. Would you say the 4 1/2 would be better for working on a vehicle versus that new one?
Really enjoyed the review video!
On a jeep, size matters, so I normally use a small corded Dewalt rather than a battery op grinder because there is so much size difference. If I wanted battery, I would go with this one for the power and deal with the size.
WorkshopAddict so you are saying there is quite a bit of power difference? I already have quite a bit of Milwaukee cordless power tools, so I’m just trying to not worry about being connected to a wall.
@@Venom-kq5xz yes quite bit power difference if even close to flex volt 60v being a 18 is impressive. The flex volt is a beast
I want one, cant loose with Milwaukee cordless
I bought one new, and the guard lock lever is a little loose, so you can click it forward away from the spring towards the grinding wheel, is that normal? I've tightened the Philips screw but its tight.. it's almost like the screw is missing its washers or something..
Both of mine are like this too. It's normal. The screw is set in with loctite from the factory.
I bought the 2780-20 4-1/2 in./5 in. Grinder with Paddle last sept. It overheats on me. My business partner sent his in with same issue for warranty but Mil denied. Totally unexpected. I wish there was insider info on when new fuel versions of Milwaukee come out. I would have gotten by with a cheap cord until the improved version came out. Threw away $150 on mine. Resell isn't good on my version. Holding off on all future Mil purchases until improvements are done to each tool on my list. I think Mil probably fixed the overheat issue on this new version. Thanks for the video.
Does the grinder overheat or the battery?
I hate that Milwaukee does the Apple thing and sells 7 year old tools alongside brand new models
Never buy brushed motor tools, min req get brushless but for reliability get an optimized series in mil case 'fuel' series brushless.
How does the metabo hpt multi volt grinder compare to the this Milwaukee?
Both are very similar. Obviously, Milwaukee will have more runtime with the 12.0 Ah battery.
Though I feel it's a little atypical for you guys to cover something like it, I hope y'all get your hands on one of those 'installation' drivers in a couple months. Unless it's absolutely terrible, I'm gonna get that thing. It would be cool if you guys happened to be part of Home Depot's Affiliate Program.
We are NOT part of the Home Depot Affiliate Program.
@@WorkshopAddict please keep it that way, the moment you sell out all your reviews become biased and unreliable
DRC Paintball but ....are you telling me that the guy I follow who releases all the Home Depot sale of the day release videos is not necessarily a solid source
Soft start ?
Hey Brian what do you prefer the paddle or the lock on switch grinders better
Depends on the job. Long grinding, switch, short work, paddle.
@@WorkshopAddict never thought of it that way thanks for your opinion bro appreciate that
So if you had to choose between that one or the DeWalt flex volt brake grinder, which one do you take?
Tough call. Same power.... It comes down to grip and trigger. I will own them both. I would probably have to go with the Milwaukee because it has more tools under that one battery but I really like the slim grip and pull trigger on the flexvolt.
@@WorkshopAddict More tools under that one battery platform? Remember that flexvolt batteries work with flexvolt tools as well as 20V max tools.
@@gregmiller7038 True, but the 20 volt won't work on flexvolt. So... Your flexvolt tools need flexvolt batteries even in a pinch. The DeWalt flexvolt and this Milwaukee both rock and you cannot go wrong with either.
Has anyone compared the variable speed 2888-20 with this one, I'm undecided? I have a variable waiting for me at Home Depot. Just wondering if I should upgrade. For multiple purposes!
This one is way more powerfull but is larger
Cordless is always nice but always little pricey than corded.
not if you buy them on sale, esp the milwaukee stuff. They are pretty close in Price if you can catch it on sale.
Is this the newest Milwaukee grinder? And what's the best battery?
The 8.0ah HO is perfect for this monster. I tried with my 12.0ah too and it just makes it tail haevy.
@@mikemorgan2733 thanks. I went with the 12 and it's heavy like you said. I just bought the chain saw and it pairs well with it. Although it makes it heavier than my traditional gas powered. But it defeats and noise and convenient.
Does the flexvolt grinder also lose some power just before the battery dies? Hard to judge by the indicator lights alone since the dewalt batteries use three lights instead of four.
I am going to say Yes.
I have the Flexvolt and yes you can tell when the battery gets low it loses more power than other tools, judging by this video I’d say their about the same
Makes me wonder how the giant 9in performs
I can not answer that. That is way more grinder than I would need.
@@WorkshopAddict i had 9" and its basically the same motor just geared slower, so not much different
Is this grinder better then dewalt flex wolt?
Yes
How’s it compare to those beastly Metabo corded unit’s
Its not there yet.
WorkshopAddict whoa and a 9” grinder is the next video. The rigid having a higher rpm is interesting here (octane not the previous one) as it’s yet another Case where rigid is leading with on paper specs. (Impact driver 2400 in. Lbs. ) I am curious to what degree it’s meaningful as it seemed like the impact driver was overpromising a bit.
Marketing.... Trying to win over the customer who is not brand loyal, looking for a deal and buying in the store isle looking at boxes.
WorkshopAddict but...why not win then over with the more profitable brand in that case ? 😭
WorkshopAddict one last question, can you link or name impact drivers that beat the gen3?
Can you compare the 6” 8500 rpm vs the 6” 9000 rpm. Is it worth the extra 500 rpm
Thise are no load RPMs, and it is hard to even tell the difference between them
@@WorkshopAddict what about battery life? Which one goes through batteries faster?
About half the battery life as the standard fuel grinder in my daily usage. More power yes but not always needed and bigger size don't fit between pips or in rack as well or at all. I stay with the standard fuel for my daily usage at work as a pipe welder.
Yeah i bought my 6 inch fuel because my company only runs 6 in wheels. Only problem I have with them as ill overheat batteries super quickly haven't ran it with a ho or HD battery
What do you use?
How does this compare in power to the 2783-20?
That would be comparing a 6" grinder to a 5"? The wheel size difference between the two is pretty huge for the work one would do with either. How do you want them compared?
@@WorkshopAddict The ridgid Octane is 10,000 rpm while the 2783-20 is 8500 and the 2980-21. Does the octane have more power because of the higher RPM and less torque or does the 2783 have more torque compared to the Ridgid Octane grinder. Does the 2980 have more torque to go along with the Higher RPM compared to the 2783?
@@nsxproperties560 OK, well the Ridgid is rated at a higher RPM and I cannot prove or disprove that they are all not the same. Personally I think they rate the ridgid too high for rpm but I can tell you it does not hold that rpm, so the ridgid lacks the torque that the Milwaukee has. Milwaukee wins over ridgid in Angle Grinders. Pick the Milwaukee Grinder that fits the size and use of what you need to do and go for it. You wont be disappointed.
You should consider doing a side by side comparison between the 2783 and the Ridgid Octane being that they are both 4 1/2 grinders. I would think the Ridgid would be better at bobbing off nails into wood because of the higher velocity, but the Millwaukee might be better for grinding because of the extra torque.
what was this like compared to the ridgid octane
There is no comparison this completely kicks the Ridgids butt.
Unless you're talking about the dual battery 7 inch Ridgid Octane and then that one has more power than this.
@@WorkshopAddict interesting, even with 1000 rpms higher on the ridgid. talking about the 125mm version or the equivalent in imperial.
Yes, that one does not have the power this unit has. Milwaukee is rocking it.
So I can use a 6” blade???
Yes
How does this compare to the dewalt power detect ? I have heard that the Milwaukee overheats / cuts out often did you notice that?
This is better than the Power detect if you use the 12 Ah battery on this. If you do not use the right battery, this will cut out. This is not the tool for long term grinding. A corded model is.
@@WorkshopAddict yea I wouldn’t use cordless for constant grinding I have both dewalt and Milwaukee tools I just noticed in reviews that the flex volt and power detect seem to do better than the Milwaukee!
@@Vatech-gj2tw milwaukee is Definitely better.......the Fuel is TOP of the food chain.
I want this with a hard case only because I'll rarerly use it
Were do u get it? Cant find it on Amazon.
acme tools or Ohio Power tool.
Hi quick question for u from a beginner. So I have a phobia of grinders because one time I wad changing a wheel on a corded grinder when I accidentally hit the trigger and it cut my fingers a few years ago. Now days I need a grinder to cut up exhaust systems and I'm interested in this model. My question to u is, I seen u grabbing the wheel when describing the tool that comes with the 2980, how are u sure you're not going to, or it's not accidentally going to (trigger) while trying to change the wheel.. scary..
Well, if you remove the battery, you know it will never turn on.
I run 5mah batteries and there fine also I do hvac work thi ner gadgets metals powerful with a 5mah battery
I want buy regular use Milwaukee Brand Grinder, please tell me which ine is top of the list?
😎✌👷
Does the 4 1/2” fuel angle grinder have the same amount of power as this one?
Negative
@@rookiexreviews I purchased the 6” last Christmas. Decent power...but I just got the Flexvolt advantage grinder and it’s a bit more powerful
Oh ya the flex holding me back on getting my own 6in Milwaukee i got all m12 and m18 (except a truhvl skilsaw) but at work I use the m18 6 tought it was great but after seeing videos of the flex 60v 6in I think if I get m18 Instead of the 60v Dewalt I’ll keep wanting to get it until I I’ll end up with both lol having hard time with this (it’s not a sickness just A obstacle)
That thing needs the 12 high output battery
It’s good with the 6 the 8 or the 12 high output. Even the 3 is fine you just won’t get much runtime but you won’t lose any power
Why isn’t it variable speed? MACKEATER!
Lookin for a tool? Nah, just grab the disk like a man and you'll be able to be tool free.. That still cracks me up watching someone lookin around for a pair of spanners..
Duh..... you say 5/8 arbor but the links are for 7/8 .....duh.
"That high powered sucker tool."
Funny, that was my ex-girlfriend's nickname.
First and keep up the good work
Did you even have time to watch it. :)
@@WorkshopAddict yes just finished I commented before I watched
LOL.. Thanks for your support!
@@WorkshopAddict no problem I enjoy it
5/8 arbor 👎🏼👎🏼
Whooping 6 Mins .....wow going to pass until they come out with new and better battery technology giving me at least 30mins
yeah it's not like you can have MULTIPLE BATTERIES dumbass.....
What has made me angry about Milwaukee and still am, is HOW THE FUCK ARE THEY NOT MAKING THESE VARIABLE SPEED YET. You fucking up for the fan boys Milwaukee. Make us cordless grinders w VARIABLE speed. I mean you're mf charge the most of all brands how are we supposed to be happy as fan boys if you dont have the best of all your god damn fucking tools.
I have this one
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You said you noticed almost no difference between the 6.0 and the 12.0 battery. Was that in terms of power or run time?
Power