How Aerodactyl Wins in Gen 3 OU.
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- Опубліковано 4 жов 2024
- Pokemon Gen 3 Competitive Singles is my favourite format. A lot of you have been taking interest in the format recently, so I thought I'd do a livestream taking a look at some replays from new players. The Viewer "LuichoX" submitted this replay featuring a very solid Aerodactyl + Tyranitar Spikes Offense. This style of team is a great choice if you're a beginner and want to learn the fundamentals. The gameplan of the team was very well showcased in this replay, so I thought I'd share it.
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Hi, how can I send you some replays? I am a new player and I would like you to analize my gen3ou current strategy. Besides, I found an interesting niche for Muk in OU (anything revolutionary tho, it's even suggested in Smogon but I havent run into anybody who uses it yet).
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Same lol
Yup
I'm with you
i think i have played like 3 showdown games since gen 6 ended...
This right here
nice showcase of aerodactyl on that live showcase! my fav part is where he immediatly died in his second turn
Right after coming out and saying his signature catchphrase, "It's Dactyl time"
@@foreversevenfold1666I loved when he Dactyled all over the enemy team
Featured mon dying turn 2 is definitely normal
I can't listen to Verdanturf's theme anymore without hearing THE MONEY GOT DIFFERENT CAUSE OF WHAT I'M SPENDIN
I enjoy watching your videos while I run on the treadmill Mr cool
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Reminder gen one aerodactyl doesn’t get rockslide or earthquake in one i can’t get over that it’s so stupid
"Oh boy, can't wait for that Sky Attack to charge and destroy my opponent." ~ Me, using Aero for the first time in gen 1, hoping that they don"t have Rhydon or Zapdos
@@melikmourali2072 then they bring out jolteon instead to really troll you
Aerodactyl has swag. I used him on my team to place 14th in the VGC Oceania International Challenge in 2017. Sky drop shenanigans while Porygon-Z set up with Z move conversion, was very epic.
I used sky drop aero in 2017 vgc too! It was so fun.
I used it to stop Mimilax from getting trick room up! fun times
Love to see the gen3OU content! The gen 9 content was great too, don't get me wrong, but the passion you have for the older tier shows when you're speaking about them. Keep it up!
Not only that but Aero is by far the most suitable Choice Band user. With no setup moves and base 130 speed its a no brainer to run CB on Aero and hit everything for massive damage. Rock Head also makes Double Edge a very spammable and safe click since no frail ghost type wants to switch into Aerodactyl and even resists still take so much from it. Such a cool pokemon. Offense used to be really interesting until gen 4 came out and made offense broken. In gen 3 offense was strong but also risky, you had to play well and predict correctly you couldn't just spam Outrage and win
Do you know how much fun I had using outrage? So much
@@HisCoconutGunSorry to be a killjoy but really it's unfair to blame Smogon for not wanting to have offensive threats that the rest of the metagame can't handle because Gamefreak keeps making overbearing centralising powerhouses
@@HisCoconutGun Honestly I get your point but do you really think gen 4 OU would have been even remotely close to how good gen 3 OU was without the bans? Gen 4 metagame was doomed to be a disaster from the start. Stealth Rock, Choice Scarf, insane setup movepools (why did Garchomp need Swords Dance again? I thought there was a reason Dnite Ttar and Mence did not get that shit), a million legendaries, a million priority moves, U-turn the list goes on. Choice Specs and Life Orb were fine, maybe even necessary to increase offensive variety given how up until gen 3 most offensive pokemon still run leftovers on most of their sets but shit like Choice Scarf and Stealth Rock should have never existed in the game. And lets not even talk about how poorly handled the physical special split was, they did not even think before implementing it and reworking moves or even stats and overnight balanced and fun pokemon like Salamence became the most broken and unfun shits ever. Some pokemon really needed it and others did not manage to benefit at all but the bottom line is the split was just thrown on the wall, some pokemon stick some did not and some caused utter chaos all by pure chance instead of thought
@@dntremad8290This post screams "zoomer plays Gen 3 OU a few times after watching YT videos, and now all of a sudden thinks they have the keys to game balance", cuz no one who actually plays ADV talks like this lmao. Gen 4 OU is an excellent metagame in spite of the power creep it introduced, and there's far more that goes into teambuilding and strategy than "spamming outrage" or Choice boosted attacks (Jirachi is far more centralizing than any of the Dragons are). The physical/special split helped the game far more than it had hurt and gave many mons a new lease on life. Trying to point to overpowered outliers like Mence and Garchomp as some legitimate argument that Game Freak adding this long overdue mechanic was some sort of mistake is laughable.
If you wanna see a meta that's actually still plagued by power creep that it's a mess of bans and clauses even into this day, Gen 5 would be the far better example.
@GIR177 Isn't gen 5 just chaotic because of HO and sleep reset
I am glad you gave a recommendation for beginners, I think many in the jimothy cool nation want to get in to 3OU and have no idea how to begin
Aerodactyl is my favourite Pokemon of all time. Its mega is absolutely bonkers strong and fast especially with Tough Claws, and in Gen 8 Aero got access to Dragon Dance. Assuming Aero gets even 1 turn to setup, which under Sand is more than possible via boosting his SPDF on targets like specs Boomburst/Hurricane Noivern, and is given a Life Orb, he can utterly ruin anything that isn't the most bulky Pokémon in the game - very few things can switch into him. You might say to yourself, why run Dragon Dance on an already fast Pokémon? Well, choice scarfers! Aero is so fast that even running an Adamant nature, at +1 he outruns basically everything and threatens massive damage back at the least. If you're finding trouble keeping Aero alive to setup, a Sitrus Berry can help him find the boosts he needs to clean up! He suffers from a weakness to all common priority (Aqua Jet, Bullet Punch, Ice Shard) to balance him out nicely i feel, though.
Also, gen 3 Aero is the best abuser of Choice Band in the game. Rock slide flinches + Earthquake ensures he can hit a vast amount of Pokemon for strong STAB or at least super effective damage.
Its sad that Aero fell to the lower tiers in recent years, but if & when he comes back, i hope they give him a few new tools to take advantage of his Rock Head ability, such as Brave Bird, Wild Charge or Flare Blitz. Because he can use the elemental fangs already, it doesnt even seem absurd that he cannot have access to these moves. I really hope he returns for Gen 9, although its not looking likely since none of the fossils made it for some reason. If they don't give Aero recoil moves to synch with his Rock Head, i think they should give him something like Strong Jaw, or lets face it intimidate, because look at it!!! Hows that not a ferocious looking Mon?!
I think this thing had the potential to be really good in later generations if they gave it Brave Bird and Head Smash. That pared up with Rock Head would have been brutal to deal with. I dont give two shits that he isnt a bird, it should've learned Brave Bird.
Apparently they didn't want to do that because Banded Double Edges coming from him were deadly as it is. However given power creep I see no reason why he can't get Brave Bird, Flare Blitz & Wild Charge to his kit. It's not like he's unbeatable with them
yea if crobat can get it so should aero
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Exactly, its just so fricking dumb.
Do you enjoy the lack of team preview? I ask this because it's an arbitrary decision on Smogon's part since it's available through XD.
Plus the switching mechanics on Showdown are based on XD rather than GBA which uses port priority.
Yes, it adds a lot of depth
When Smogon talks about Team Preview, they call Gen 3 "a gen without Team Preview" like the other old gens. But that's wrong, is my point. Gen 3 does have Team Preview. All gens have Team Preview. Even Generation 1 ran Team Preview for the first ever official tournament, Nintendo Cup 1997, before Stadium was even released (you'd show each other your team before battling). So it's arbitrary in the sense that they just decided to exclude it (for whatever reason) but there's nothing inherent in the games that is telling you to play without it.@@HisCoconutGun
I really do enjoy these gen 3 competitive scene videos, hope you can do a video on Armarldo
Honestly I’m still surprised Aerodactyl dosent have head smash like I keep forgetting that every day
To add insult to injury, it has rock head as one of its abilities
Ehhh... it might be a little crazy if it had those, considering it'd be the fastest Rock-Head Smash user in the game and with comparable strength to all the others.
But given power creep, maybe it wouldn't be that bad.
itd steal Relicanth and Tyrantrum's thunder. where would those pokemon be if their one trick was stolen by an actually good mon
@@handoverthestromboli6715 Aerodactyl will most likely be in a tier higher than Tyrantrum and Relicanth, so it won't be their to outclass them as a Head Smashing machine
Imagine if Aero had Head Smash and Brave Bird, it would be an excellent choice band user.
Speed kills. Its stats, moves and abilities are so good. My favourite gen 3 bird. Its what it should have been in Gen 1. The definition of balance.
I grew up with generation 2, started competitively gen 3, excelled in gen 4 and later on played generation 1. Everything during and past generation 5 I never really enjoyed. Watching these videos make me realize how much I used to love older generations. Newer generation pokemon are all so busted even when they're not banned. Everyone can be reverse swept by king gambit, walking wake in sun and rain hits like a truck and winning often comes down to guessing whether he will go for water or dragon moves. Iron Valiant is so incredible fast and OP as a late game sweeper and the fact you never truly know its set is so damn OP. Even in prior generations you be easily overwhelmed by magearna, normalium z kartana and other cheese. And sure sometimes it could be fun to blast through an opponent when they can't do much about it but it just kinda gets stale over time.
i can agree on this, but as someone who played gen 1 for a good while too... i wouldn't exactly call it balanced either, not ridiculous like modern gens, but not exactly the most balanced environment, specially with a different issue in the lack of diversity, Tauros + Lax + chansey + Zam/Star is quite literally near mandatory otherwise the team just falls apart and that's 4 out of 6 mons, I feel some busted meta like ORAS could be arguably less ridiculous than RBY where the entire meta is at OHKO or 2HKO range for Tauros and you can't do much abt it once your team's got too much damage or para'd, let alone how dangerously safe it can be to cheese in this meta. This meta got awfully saturated in my head and i don't think i can change this at all sadly.
(RBY lower tiers sound fun but the ladders for those are only occasional, so...)
Just wanted to say after a while of watching your videos i finally decided to listen to you and try out gen 3 ou. Gotta say, its the most fun ive had in competitive pokemon so far 😂 this format is awesome.
Ive been playing aerodactyl in SD pass and its so damn good
The Professor Rowan theme fits well with your analysis! Nice video! Yeah, Aerodactyl is really good!
Basically, Aerodactyl is a great late game sweeper that can power through almost anything.
I will never get tired of the outro lol
Man. Idk why but that "GOOD AND FUNNE END SCREEN" is getting me.
Gen 6 and 7 are my favorite competitive gens. I loved using mega aerodactyl in UU. With sand up it was a beast
It must have been the dastardly work of Iron Mugulis that deleted the original upload, stay safe Jim, he’s coming for you 🫡
We better look out for Mossy Mugs, too. Never know what they can do.
It's still astonishing to me that this beast was made in 3G, 130 base speed is kinda crazy for the time.
Its a gen 1 mon actually, you might not know because in gens 1 and 2 it learned literally no moves so noone used it
Oooh yeah I do remember the amber fossil now@@lukaskuipers7791
@@lukaskuipers7791The absolutely strongest and fastest cleanup pokemon with a terrific rock-ground combo it didn't actually get for some reason. Aero is so sad in gen 1, but at least it got earthquake in gen 2
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nother great vid jim. i swear ima get back into ADV OU before the end of 2023
I love your videos so much ❤
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aerodactyl and heracross were the reasons i got into adv ou for sure love em
This was such a good aerodactyl clip
Very Nice replay.
Yes, Jirachi is weird, right? At first I taught it was a Protox Jirachi because tox helps againts swampert. Fire punch+protect againts Metagross.
Maybe a CM, Fire+Psychic+Grass Jirachi?
I would use defensive Celebi in that spot.
In any case, it is a good team.
it was indeed a cm psychic fire punch hp grass jirachi
@@LuichoX203 Thank You, sir!
Really good team You have here.
@@LuichoX203cool team
I miss when 130 was ridiculously fast
I agree the end screen is both good and funny
I put it on all my Gen III showdown teams alongside Celebi, T-tar, and Moltres. They form a almost unstoppable offensive core together.
No mention of Iron Mugulis in the interaction reminder... has the threat been quelled?
holy shit the end screen is funny again!
I would love to see you do a breakdown of competitive gens Gen 3 is my favorite followed by Gens 5 and 2.
Money got different 🗣️
Wish Aerodactyl got Head Smash and Brave Bird
talk about the soundproof ban
Tell Aero that Claydoll says Hi. 🖐
Just for fun I decided to try using Ash Ketchums battle Frontier team in Gen 3 OU. I've actually managed to do pretty well with the team despite using Pokemon like Light ball Pikachu and Corpfish, but the team is incapable of even denting Aerodactyl! Tyranitar, Skarmory, Blissey, Salamence, Metagross, Swampert, Jirachi, etc. are all manageable, but Aerodactyl has put the fear of God into me
Secret of the Forest, nice.
Aerodactyl’s best feature is easily how it always goes for the throat
The outro is amazing 😂
I love that ancient bird boy
3:15 Why did soundproof get banned?
I'm going to guess that the adjective's before the word "end screen" depend on which tiers last got new members. When it changed to "good and funny" a person was added to both tier 2 and 3.
I hope this is right because this has been bugging me for forevere.
how do you pump out videos so frequently?
also have you collaborated with falseswipegaming?
I’ve played 2 games of gen 3 and aerodactyl was pretty solid
Men that pokemon was the best fossil pokemon until Dracovish came
Here’s how I’d buff Aerodactyl:
-Give it Head Smash, Brave Bird, Wild Charge, and Flare Blitz to take advantage of Rock Head, and give it more STAB and coverage options.
-Give it Trailblaze, for damage, Grass coverage, and Speed boosting.
-Give it Headlong Rush as more powerful Ground coverage.
-Give it Wide Guard to protect against priority.
just giving it head smash is enough of a buff you dont need to give it literally every strong recoil move in the game
@@BlueRenown It allows for variety tho. One Fakemon I’m designing is Baavalanche, an Rock/Ice-type bighorn sheep built around fast physical offense, and it gets Rock Head as a possible ability. Instead of just giving it Double-Edge and Head Smash and calling it a day, I give it Wild Charge and the brand new move Glacier Crash, which is an Ice-type Flare Blitz. Baavalanche has 131 Attack and 111 Speed.
yeaa keep em coming
In let’s go, it completely invalidates jolt. No matter what, won’t die to one hit while body bagging it if it wins speed tie… and that’s if they don’t just mega and delete them.
Mic audio is unbalanced between the opening segment and the replay, brother
Aerodactyl goes very hard
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Bro I've played adv for so long now and the starmie+gengar combo STILL gives me trouble lmao
Talk about absol! my favorite pokemon 🙂
This is the first time I see Torrent (subsequently Blaze/Overgrow/Swarm) being useful
It is usually a throw away ability if the mon has anything else. But since swampert is such a solid mon in gen 3 even without a good ability it gets its use in situationally.
charizard makes good use of blaze too in gen 3. Heracross has sets that try to deliberately knock it into swarm range to turn it into a megahorn machine. Only overgrow kinda blows
3:27 The Money hit differ-
Where’s the funny song?
Can you do a Gen 3 OU move tierlist?
Why was soundproof banned in gen 3? Doesn't strike me as a particularly impacting ability
Baton pass undeterred by roar, roar is a sound based move
Mr. Mime is the only Baton Pass user that is immuned to Roar thanks to Soundproof, so you can only Phaze it out with Whirlwind. Unfortunately, Whirlwind has a pretty bad distribution in gen 3. Besides Skarmory, only Aerodactyl learns it in OU, alongside Hariyama and Crobat which are UUBL.
However, a lot more OU Pokemon learn Roar, so players would rather ban Soundproof than Baton Pass, since Baton Pass is fun to use with some restrictions from the Smogon ruleset.
I hope this is clear enough ^^'
I had wondered why you use Roar over Whirlwind on Skarmory, TIL
Give my boy head smash already gf. He's been surpassed in speed by a wide margin, speedy taunts are no longer crucial since prankster, can't even toxic stall with sky drop anymrre, he has no niche give him head smash.
After last night's stream I battled another viewer with that pory mag and swampert team. It came down to my gengar and his aero and I forgot aero is the fastest of them all
In my mind I was thinking "gengar is fast as frigg boii" then got hit with a super effective HP
Do you happen to have the paste for this team? I'd like to get into ADV OU and Aerodactyl is my fave mon, so I'd like to use it and learn
Link your music in the description. The music during the 8:00 is sooo good.
The song is Secret of the Forest from Chrono Trigger.
What are the background music tracks in this video from? They sound familiar but I can't put my finger on it.
Once again Iron Mugulis efforts are in vain
Hi, great video, can you do rayquaza next?
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How can I enjoy this without iron McGillis lore (jk all your videos are ok)
Soundproof is banned in gen3? Did Jimothy make a video on that?
Aerodactyl more like penisdactyl am i right lol
Do you need to be subbed to your patreon to send replays?
What is this background music? I know I know this.
Jim
No iron mugulis today ?
What got soundproof banned?
wait why is soundproof banned what lmao
Short answer is it meant Baton Pass chains involving Mr Mime couldn't ever be shut down if you only had Roar as a phazing move
Please tell me the bgm in 4:41 thank you^^
If it’s so powerful, how did it go extinct?
because it got crit
ok but where is great neck
Why is soundproof banned?
Gen 3 Aerodactyl, more specifically with CB, was the first Pokemon of a new archtype. Not a wallbreaker, not a revenge killer, but in the middle. Well, it's a good revenge killer too, but the role I'm describing doesn't require so much prior damage.
CB essentially boosts Aero's offensive stats to 157/130, as compared to 105/130. That's a huge difference, with an obvious drawback. Most pokemon capable of being this strong off the bat have a drawback. Cb even fixes the problem of its low power STAB moves.
And for some reason, there is no Choice Specs or Choice Scarf. It can run free with little fear of being outsped.
I am new to pokemon but I am only interested in Gen 3... maybe 4 also. How do I play online?
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Militant anti gen 9 when
Gen 3 random battles content?🥺
You casually mentioned soundproof being banned, why is this?
Mr Mime could create unbreakable Baton Pass chains as its immune to Roar. Whirlwind is a form of counterplay but only 2 relevant Pokemon get it making the counterplay very limited. The ADV Community wanted to keep Baton Pass in the game so Soundproof was banned
@jimothycool So that's still unbeatable even with the single stat-baton pass? I'm just not seeing how that works but I bet it's something funny. Even then, why would they ban the ability instead of just Mr. Mime?
@@dispergosum Yep they would speed pass to Mr Mime then Hypnosis or set up Screens, then go to a CMer or something like Marowak and just sweep
what on earth is going on with your youtube description? is that like search term optimization im so confused
Or just a never let them know your next move kind of thing
@@calamorta it looks like he spammed the suggested word buttons on a phone like this:
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Do rock types get the special Def boost in gen 3?
Nope, that’s from Gen IV and onward
What song at 6:30 ??
The deletion of the original video must’ve been caused by iron mugulis, stay safe Jim, he’s trying to take you down 🫡