"Don't convince me to have kids, convince someone who wants them to have more." - This. So much this. Encourage people to do the thing they want to do. Don't enforce your ideology on someone who doesn't want it.
@@Mymusic-pj1oc biology is organisms procreating that have the desire to do so. Encouraging two organisms to mate that don't want to mate, because _someone external thinks they should_ , is ideological.
@@DrGreenGiant it's biological drive to have sex, copulation, etc. Our whole bodies are based on hormones that drive us to do it. Unless we have some type of interference like we are broken by drugs made by pharma, or some abnormalities.
@@DrGreenGiant I bet she still has sex. We all know what that is right? Or do you think humans use their s organ for golf? Swimming? They're there for one reason only. Pheromones, hormones, libido, pleasure. Some people might think they can control it, but it is our biology that gives us the Desire to have sex. Whether anyone is successful at not having children is beside the point. Every time a woman chooses to have a man in that s organ is consent to procreation. Doesn't matter if you don't want to, you do it anyway. People need to stop lying to themselves.
it can't be just good luck to become a core member of such an exclusive club, if I were you I would propose a policy to prevent members from revealing others Identities, making an oath of secrecy a mandatory part of initiation, then anywhere I go I would casually mention being part of one of the most exclusive clubs with an oath of secrecy dedicated to inspecting worthy writings and exchanging their findings with their fellow members, to look really cool.
I'm sure Peter was trying to go somewhere with his line of questioning during the "Importance of women-only spaces" section, but what that was completely eludes me.
Would you say that in a high school locker room, it would be important for the safety of underage women to not be exposed to penises while they are changing?
It’s like he has FOMO about not being allowed in. He was really trying to interrogate the NEED for female only spaces. I don’t think he’s gotten an answer that satisfies him yet. Have you seen his interview with the feminist Kara Danski? She emphasizes wanting to feel “safe” and he goes on a 10 minute rant about how she just needs to learn jujitsu. I think Megan should have turned the questioning back on him and asked if he feels and speaks differently when no women are present and if he thinks male only spaces are important.
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@@chrismm25yeah...you bet. Men are afraid of missing out. Of what? Hearing women chat endlessly, just to be chatting? Daum even speaks to 'women don't always want to solve stuff'. Fair enough. But men seek peace, and avenues to achieve that, so they get shit done. Women talk a lot and say nothing. Men aren't interested in that.
Because men interrupt a lot. Like Peter. I recognize it, I do it too.
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@@larrycahoone2771 zero hard data on this. Women interrupt all the time. So do men. Depends on the person (personality), the context (situation/subject matter), and, let's just say, emotional investment.
When you can’t get through a human interaction without hearing a tongue bitingly stupid proposition, sincerely held and utterly unexamined it’s hard not to be reduced to hard swearing despair.
Glad he interviewed Meghan. Regarding the issue they’re really focused on at the start here of women saying sorry all the time and being less apt to be forth-right for fear of being called a bitch, it’s rooted in everyone’s unspoken understanding that any woman can instantly become the target of anyone’s unresolved mommy issues - and those issues run deep.
What I have come to believe is that all people do not value truth for its own sake. I was raised to value truth as the primary value, Maybe that is why I became a scientist, which I understood to be the pursuit of truth in nature. However, if you value something else higher than truth, such a social standing, politeness, equity, etc., you might be more comfortable with cognitive dissonance. It's like the fat acceptance test: Ask a woman what she thinks about Lizzo, and she will likely tell you how beautiful she is. However, tell a woman that she looks like Lizzo and she will be likely to slap you. Obviously, the people who proclaim "trans women" to be "real women" don't actually believe their own bullshit on a fundamental level, but they are happy to propagate the fiction so long as it signals their virtue and increases their social standing. These are the same people who will cheat on tests, plagiarize other people's work and fudge numbers on their taxes without feeling guilt, They don't hold truth as a primary value.
First time meeting Megan ….. great conversation …. Especially for o e who has no one to converse in person with anyone ….not happy about this but conversations like this give my thoughts an excellent work out ♥️
Regarding foster care that I didn't see mentioned is those many new foster kids are taken from their parents at the school district's behest due to parents not affirming their children in their new identity. For that reason alone, it turned my head on this whole issue. As a parent, this is something that is also a family issue. Why take the children away other than to create this very storyline that Ms. Daum is stating. Did she interview parents caught up in this very Orwellian hype?
What a wonderfully intimate and honest conversation ❤ I respect you both a bunch. In case either of you read the comments, I wanted to share this thought. Liberalism and conservatism are both needed in a democracy. The wisest people, I think, are both. The Constitution is both conservative and liberal. It was written to preserve what is meaningful (conservative) and to allow for meaningful change though amendment (liberal). A democracy needs good faith debates to seek middle ground on what is meaningful. The highest compliment: You gotta hand it to the guy, he’s a real US Constitution.
42:00 This is a great talk! But as amazing as this talk has been, I could listen to them talking about the unrelated topic of killing themselves for 2 hours. Holy shit. That was electric. Now I have a new obsession.
A great discussion. Rent and food are so high here in Canada. It is a very stressful time for people starting a family. I agree with Peter about population control. A good question is why aren't people talking about the economy or climate change.
Meghan is always interesting to listen to, even, or especially, when we disagree. Smart, smart person. Peter always manages to namecheck as many of his famous friends/acquaintances as possible, cite his own publications and accomplishments, and do more talking than his guest, while inevitably managing some misogyny.
It's b/c merely posting fitness pics of yourself automatically makes one group have a collective meltdown without even having typed a word. And that's only b/c the internet was hijacked by the universal gossip machine.
@@StarCityFAME Some of us are old enough to remember when narcissistic self advertisement was considered crass and cringe. The degree to which it has been normalised is depressing.
@@hooligan9794 Then move on. Social media is all about boasting, regardless if it's about one's self or the altruism one does. Interesting name you've got, BTW.
Are "anti-vaxxers" allowed to be in these spaces? Is it really heterodox and for all women? Or is this space really just for women who have centrist views? I know Sarah Haider who you mention holds very centrist views. She spoke out actively against "anti vaxxers" during covid.
I absolutely loved this conversation..this time not for insights but for so much recognition..this could have been me and my best friend talking..saying the same things and feeling the exact same emotions❤
Love P Bog's suckerfish sucking up shit analogy. I feel the same way, as a constant reader, listener, and commenter. I also worry I'm being made more stupid than I already am by how stupid so many people are nowadays.
Peter says one thing I've also tried to say to the small number of people who follow me on social media. There's almost no point trying to weed the critical social justice, etc stuff out of institutions until stop churning out people indoctrinated by the elite universities. I hope he's right and they become utterly irrelevant in the future.
I agree we are over populated. I think things will get rough for awhile if there is no 'replacement reserve' but once the the population is smaller, space, homes, things like water, oil, gas if not used up now, will last longer, less toil on the earth period. But that is my 0.05$ I also like the idea of people who want to have kids have more if this is a concern but for those of us that do not should not be shamed. I would be an awful parent and i think the best parents are ones that truly want children and are prepared to deal with what comes with being a parent.
Walled cities - Peter described soviet union. I was born in the early 80s snd witnessed final days of that monstrous state, for that reason I believe ut is very cruel to lock children in the dociety of hell as a punishment for parents stupidity
1:05:35 I had a friend that said she hated kids and didn't want them, regularly. She ended up having 4 and being an elementary school teacher. 😂 So minds can and do change.
Of course minds change. How old was she when she made her initial declaration? If she got a lot of pushback she might have doubled down, at least initially...as the very young often do ( hell, we all get stubborn when challenged). The point might be to leave room for that change....
I decided not to want children at 23, still don't have children and at 62 I don't think my mind is going to be changed anymore. My best friend decided at similar age not to want children. She's 55 and doesn't look like she's about to change her mind either...The problem with anecdotal argument eh😉
@@reddragonready I wasn't talking about menopausal lesbians. Or any other outliers that have physical or mental barriers. Never said this was an argument sweaty. It was a simple statement. Tick tok goes the ⏰️.
I would love to debate you, Peter. I was raised by a leftist University professor who got his undergrad degrees from Berkeley. I know all the arguments.
Peter, we share the dream of leaving people to experience the consequences of their choices (@1:19:05) . Of course we know it's not feasible on a large scale, but that's what dreams are for ;). And the reality you discuss, is what happened in the brutal natural world, but it also fueled positive evolutionary change. Perhaps we've overcorrected in taking the edge off of poor individual choices - so instead, we suffer collectively. Doesn't sound fair to me. Your work is appreciated, BTW.
Somehow I feel that those who say they would make bad parents wouldn’t actually be bad parents. I think that bad parents would not even know they would be bad parents. And Bad is a a subjective.
Okay, I'm on board with all of this, but she hates the term 'heterodox' and feels that "allergic to bullshit' is a serviceable substitute? Come on now.
Love Meghan, subscribe to her podcasts and read her book of essays from the women who were childless by choice. I've never wanted kids, am also childless by choice, have multiple reasons, have never regretted it and have always supported anyone else's desire to have or not have kids themselves. Would love to hear her have nuanced conversations with Megyn Kelly and Meghan Murphy (I'd call it 'Three Wise Megs').
I worked at a job that was mostly men. And then at a different job that was mostly women. Totally different vibe. I have a group of friends that I'm close to from church. Most of them are married. Their husbands are great. I've never felt uncomfortable around them. We often get together as a group. And of course church and church events are all a mix of men and women. But we also have a women's group that gets together. And the men have a men's group that gets together. Again, it's a totally different vibe when it's just the women. I'm sure the men feel the same about getting together with just the men. Otherwise they wouldn't do it. I think there is value in women or girls having their own time and space, and men and boys having theirs. Just as there is value in the time we all have together. In certain types of spaces or circumstances it's also a safety issue. But I think just in general, we spend most of our time mixed and that's as it should be. And I think a lot of women value our women's time together and a lot of men value their time with other men. That should be respected by those that don't care one wat or the other. There are plenty of mixed sex spaces and events. It's most of society. They don't need to violate or abolish single sex spaces and gatherings just because they don't value it.
This is a big problem among people who pretend they have friends. When your desire for friends exceeds your desire to speak your mind, you are. not a mature adult. Grow up children.
Well, she kind of did that thing I'm sick of, "Oh, I looked around, and podcasts were all men and no women, so we needed a space for women." It's like, one, I doubt many (maybe some) of the podcasts were anti-women. They just have male followers and a few women. Two, there's no big barrier to entry. Men are doing it. She can just do it, too. It's not like Jackie Robinson type stuff here.
@@roryteal5940 I was thinking more along the lines of a footie team, (soccer) or gym bros…or even a games club…but your suggestions work. There are sometimes I don’t want women around. And I can respect if there’s sometimes they wanna be in their own club together
@@brek5 true. I don’t know the breakdowns for Podcasts but I’ve heard that UA-cam is a very male demographic. I don’t have a problem with people forming around groups. Just as long as they’re not telling you what I get to do.
I agree that so much of my thinking is occupied by theses dumb ideas. I find it's healthy to shut it off for awhile. Take a break and engage in more serious intellectual pursuits of science or music.
1:09:49 Lol yeah I want to talk about these subjects in family settings but my family has polarized. We've learned to remain silent. I find ordinary topics uninteresting. I notice when conversation gets slightly more political or culture war oriented people take a deep breath, remain silent, look uncomfortable, and change the subject to something uninteresting.
I’m shipping these two so hard. Sorry to objectify you both. I don’t even know Peter’s status 😂 It’s just ALL I COULD THINK ABOUT after the kids/relationships talk. “Yeah you two should cuddle up and watch a movie” - “Aw you two should turn your phones off and have real talks” - lol. Clearly a volcano of hormones inside this corporate job, childless single cat lady, turning 35 and wasn’t told about her fertility 😝 Haha. Nice chat you two!
You work for 40yrs to have $1M in your retirement, meanwhile some people are putting just $10K in a bitcoin from just a few months ago and now they are multimillionaire..
Started the year joyfully after partaking in cryptos December last year, never knew it was this lucrative. I'm still overwhelmed because this exceeded my expectations, I lack the skill but I earn while I learn
I ruin dinner parties. I'm just a regular person, who's obsessed with defying leftist ideology, even though I held those beliefs more than half my life. I'm still just as obnoxious about these views as I was when I thought I knew it all. I didn't, so maybe I'm wrong now, too. No, that's not it. I'm right this time. Sorry. It's 4:30 am & they ARE stoo-pid.. Oh, btw, having faith in God isn't the disaster you're implying here. I wasn't always a believer. Sometimes, people have experiences they can't explain, like I did. It's one of the reasons I defy leftist ideology. Things aren't always what they seem. Thanks so much & good night.
I watched a lot of female podcasts ..most spoke out against transgender movement. There are like 2 left. Wonder why that is.
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I recall a few years ago thinking the most vulnerable would be impacted the most by this. As usual. And when an 'allergy to BS' is heterdox...oh man, well then I guess we know where we are.
Did your former associates change, or was this just the first time you witnessed their character being tested? -This is not a glib, rhetorical question.
I like this lady, but why is there such a trend with women wanting to talk about things and not solve them? I get there is a time to talk, but there's also a time to solve. But women just refuse to do this for some reason
Why should free thinking be segragated based on sex? Don't get me wrong, I support any group to have exclusive spaces based on sex, race, religion, whatever, but why?
Because women are more vulnerable to physical abuse and character assassination. Because men are generally lower in trait Agreeableness than women and can resist the pressure to confirm more easily than women can. Because women's relationships and methods of resolving issues are less outcome orientated - allyship is very important to women because them the is more safety in numbers.
I guess some women just don't feel like hanging around men constantly? I just like that you and I say free association and voluntary group formation over all.
I can't agree with your woke utopia in which someone's children and grandchildren are also expected to stay there due to their beliefs that seem bordering on a new holocaust. I can't imagine being trapped in a city for my whole life and my children's whole life due to my parents and grandparents' ideologies.
Determinism here pushes infinite sums of complexity there. Everything physicalism classism made us eqaully broke with divisions in word and context . Dualistic whataboutism vs nilhisms. Everything has taught or caught the way to use dualistic evolutionary umbrella to capture the local systems to evolve how they see fit. Both party's wanted plausible deniabilty embedded as both censored 3 lines of measure = truest True known standard eqaulity controls . Can anyone even triangulate how they know they have free will inertia in their frame of reference?
@user-tg9qq8eb3h it's the American founders choice of scale. To maximize benefits of atoms we all work with we must interpret them radically differently ( customers always right) but we must hold strong identifiers of moral law ,individual responsibility. The theology is metamorphosis In reverse textualism methodology, objectivism = that everything physicalism is subject to change without further notice on par with idealism. Material sciences of the future shining capital on the hill = 3 lines of measure = eqaulibrium by for thru = saved bill of rights. Where they draw from runs through my veins
Esoterica America. Puritan pilgrim king James English X for Prayer logic whataboutism Y thru Cursed rationalism reductionism Z by Blessed common sense objectivism = inherits the earth 🌎 stars above 🌟 To become kings of our own castles master of our own domain to sense the universe in all its glory 😤 Xyz manmade time hierarchy knowledge of good evil equations dualistic brain primordial self soul agency triangulated thermodynamical systems. The tools for triangulation of free will inertia in our frame of reference etc etc
If we cant have a literal Christian nationalism, can we have a metaphorical Christian nationalism? Or a mix of the two that can still align together on moral conclusions, even if they disagree on fact claims?
@@theunknownatheist3815 Is there anything about the moral conclusions of Christianity about sacrifice, atonement, repentance, and redemption that you disagree with?
The claim that the left won't interview is false. I'm far more to the left on many issues. I'll interview. You are too religious or close minded to talk about many things.
It's not a false claim. Maybe the claim that the left are thick might be more appropriate. You are willing to interview... whoever you are... therefore the general claim is false. You should not be interviewed, but only because you are a moron.
@@Nall412 I'm the far left of the far right. I strongly support abortion and Palestine. Peter never interviews us. Zionists and pro choice, but no pro abortion
Watch this one next: ua-cam.com/video/s43osVD-CvA/v-deo.html
"Don't convince me to have kids, convince someone who wants them to have more." - This. So much this.
Encourage people to do the thing they want to do. Don't enforce your ideology on someone who doesn't want it.
Not an ideology. It's biology.😢
@@Mymusic-pj1oc biology is organisms procreating that have the desire to do so. Encouraging two organisms to mate that don't want to mate, because _someone external thinks they should_ , is ideological.
@@DrGreenGiant it's biological drive to have sex, copulation, etc. Our whole bodies are based on hormones that drive us to do it. Unless we have some type of interference like we are broken by drugs made by pharma, or some abnormalities.
@@DrGreenGiant I bet she still has sex. We all know what that is right? Or do you think humans use their s organ for golf? Swimming? They're there for one reason only. Pheromones, hormones, libido, pleasure. Some people might think they can control it, but it is our biology that gives us the Desire to have sex. Whether anyone is successful at not having children is beside the point. Every time a woman chooses to have a man in that s organ is consent to procreation. Doesn't matter if you don't want to, you do it anyway. People need to stop lying to themselves.
@DrGreenGiant I took the 😢 at the end of the previous response to reflect that some people can't have kids, either at all or more.
Meghan has such a sharp wit, it is joy to listen to her.
No joy to listen to her voice though... 😅
Like squeaking doorhinges.
The vocal fry though ... grrrrh!
@@fretbuzz59 Horrible!
She's pretty sharp
Gender is not complicated. Only magical thinking creates complexity.
Well, "complex" doesn't necessarily mean bad, but no matter how you slice it, there are only TWO genders.
Meghan is a powerhouse. Love her podcast!
My book club is just me and my mom now lol
Love that xx
it can't be just good luck to become a core member of such an exclusive club, if I were you I would propose a policy to prevent members from revealing others Identities, making an oath of secrecy a mandatory part of initiation, then anywhere I go I would casually mention being part of one of the most exclusive clubs with an oath of secrecy dedicated to inspecting worthy writings and exchanging their findings with their fellow members, to look really cool.
I'm sure Peter was trying to go somewhere with his line of questioning during the "Importance of women-only spaces" section, but what that was completely eludes me.
Would you say that in a high school locker room, it would be important for the safety of underage women to not be exposed to penises while they are changing?
It’s like he has FOMO about not being allowed in. He was really trying to interrogate the NEED for female only spaces. I don’t think he’s gotten an answer that satisfies him yet. Have you seen his interview with the feminist Kara Danski? She emphasizes wanting to feel “safe” and he goes on a 10 minute rant about how she just needs to learn jujitsu. I think Megan should have turned the questioning back on him and asked if he feels and speaks differently when no women are present and if he thinks male only spaces are important.
@@chrismm25yeah...you bet. Men are afraid of missing out. Of what? Hearing women chat endlessly, just to be chatting? Daum even speaks to 'women don't always want to solve stuff'. Fair enough. But men seek peace, and avenues to achieve that, so they get shit done. Women talk a lot and say nothing. Men aren't interested in that.
Because men interrupt a lot. Like Peter. I recognize it, I do it too.
@@larrycahoone2771 zero hard data on this. Women interrupt all the time. So do men. Depends on the person (personality), the context (situation/subject matter), and, let's just say, emotional investment.
When you can’t get through a human interaction without hearing a tongue bitingly stupid proposition, sincerely held and utterly unexamined it’s hard not to be reduced to hard swearing despair.
Very true
Glad he interviewed Meghan. Regarding the issue they’re really focused on at the start here of women saying sorry all the time and being less apt to be forth-right for fear of being called a bitch, it’s rooted in everyone’s unspoken understanding that any woman can instantly become the target of anyone’s unresolved mommy issues - and those issues run deep.
What I have come to believe is that all people do not value truth for its own sake. I was raised to value truth as the primary value, Maybe that is why I became a scientist, which I understood to be the pursuit of truth in nature. However, if you value something else higher than truth, such a social standing, politeness, equity, etc., you might be more comfortable with cognitive dissonance. It's like the fat acceptance test: Ask a woman what she thinks about Lizzo, and she will likely tell you how beautiful she is. However, tell a woman that she looks like Lizzo and she will be likely to slap you. Obviously, the people who proclaim "trans women" to be "real women" don't actually believe their own bullshit on a fundamental level, but they are happy to propagate the fiction so long as it signals their virtue and increases their social standing. These are the same people who will cheat on tests, plagiarize other people's work and fudge numbers on their taxes without feeling guilt, They don't hold truth as a primary value.
"It is so stupid that it has actually caused me a degree of cognitive damage." Lol. Boghossian if freaking great.
First time meeting Megan ….. great conversation …. Especially for o e who has no one to converse in person with anyone ….not happy about this but conversations like this give my thoughts an excellent work out
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The book club incident - I feel seen. I'm also living in the heterodoxy. Thanks for having Meghan on the show. Excellent interview.
I mean.. Daum, what a convo! Thanks
Regarding foster care that I didn't see mentioned is those many new foster kids are taken from their parents at the school district's behest due to parents not affirming their children in their new identity. For that reason alone, it turned my head on this whole issue. As a parent, this is something that is also a family issue. Why take the children away other than to create this very storyline that Ms. Daum is stating. Did she interview parents caught up in this very Orwellian hype?
What a wonderfully intimate and honest conversation ❤
I respect you both a bunch. In case either of you read the comments, I wanted to share this thought. Liberalism and conservatism are both needed in a democracy. The wisest people, I think, are both. The Constitution is both conservative and liberal. It was written to preserve what is meaningful (conservative) and to allow for meaningful change though amendment (liberal). A democracy needs good faith debates to seek middle ground on what is meaningful. The highest compliment: You gotta hand it to the guy, he’s a real US Constitution.
Peter's constant interruptions render the first few minutes ironic
No money? Dude, you're sitting at a table larger than my home.
Excellent conversation by the way.
Great guest! Thank you for introducing her to your audience. She is building something impressive. Great conversation.
42:00 This is a great talk! But as amazing as this talk has been, I could listen to them talking about the unrelated topic of killing themselves for 2 hours. Holy shit. That was electric. Now I have a new obsession.
A great discussion. Rent and food are so high here in Canada. It is a very stressful time for people starting a family.
I agree with Peter about population control.
A good question is why aren't people talking about the economy or climate change.
This was great! Really enjoyed it. :]
Hmmm, last I checked men aren't allowed to have men only spaces. This dichotomy bugs the shit out of me
"There is but one truly serious philosophical problem and that is suicide."
This is a great episode.
Meghan is always interesting to listen to, even, or especially, when we disagree. Smart, smart person. Peter always manages to namecheck as many of his famous friends/acquaintances as possible, cite his own publications and accomplishments, and do more talking than his guest, while inevitably managing some misogyny.
Men who are overweight almost never hear criticism of their weight?
😂😂😂
I fat shame my friends practically daily
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It's b/c merely posting fitness pics of yourself automatically makes one group have a collective meltdown without even having typed a word.
And that's only b/c the internet was hijacked by the universal gossip machine.
@@StarCityFAME Some of us are old enough to remember when narcissistic self advertisement was considered crass and cringe. The degree to which it has been normalised is depressing.
@@hooligan9794 Then move on. Social media is all about boasting, regardless if it's about one's self or the altruism one does. Interesting name you've got, BTW.
Are "anti-vaxxers" allowed to be in these spaces? Is it really heterodox and for all women? Or is this space really just for women who have centrist views? I know Sarah Haider who you mention holds very centrist views. She spoke out actively against "anti vaxxers" during covid.
Such a funny one this one. Loved Peter in rant mode.
I absolutely loved this conversation..this time not for insights but for so much recognition..this could have been me and my best friend talking..saying the same things and feeling the exact same emotions❤
Love P Bog's suckerfish sucking up shit analogy. I feel the same way, as a constant reader, listener, and commenter. I also worry I'm being made more stupid than I already am by how stupid so many people are nowadays.
You read Shellenberger's San Fransicko? The homeless cesspool is also PROFITABLE$!
Peter says one thing I've also tried to say to the small number of people who follow me on social media. There's almost no point trying to weed the critical social justice, etc stuff out of institutions until stop churning out people indoctrinated by the elite universities. I hope he's right and they become utterly irrelevant in the future.
I adore this woman. I just wish we were neighbors or something. So refreshing.
Great conversation! ❤
Foster care = vulnerable, captive audience.
Yup I feel like that also. You are not alone
I love her podcast!
I want to try to get into this group.
me too
I agree we are over populated. I think things will get rough for awhile if there is no 'replacement reserve' but once the the population is smaller, space, homes, things like water, oil, gas if not used up now, will last longer, less toil on the earth period. But that is my 0.05$ I also like the idea of people who want to have kids have more if this is a concern but for those of us that do not should not be shamed. I would be an awful parent and i think the best parents are ones that truly want children and are prepared to deal with what comes with being a parent.
Please post links. I cannot find anything on the topic:
The deleterious effect is worse for girls than boys after sex with teacher.
Depends on the teacher?
Love Megan and Sarah
When a man enters a women only space it's no longer a womebnonly space,
She lost me when she alluded as a negative that someone doesn’t want to read Robin Diangelo’s baloney.
Possibly that is because one can only know whether a piece of writing is baloney by...reading it.
Interesting simply to watch the conversation between two people who are primarily interviewers evolve as sente is commandeered by one or the other.
Peter is awesome keep it coming! Great guest looking forward to the next show. #FightTheGoodFight.
Walled cities - Peter described soviet union. I was born in the early 80s snd witnessed final days of that monstrous state, for that reason I believe ut is very cruel to lock children in the dociety of hell as a punishment for parents stupidity
1:05:35 I had a friend that said she hated kids and didn't want them, regularly. She ended up having 4 and being an elementary school teacher. 😂 So minds can and do change.
Of course minds change. How old was she when she made her initial declaration? If she got a lot of pushback she might have doubled down, at least initially...as the very young often do ( hell, we all get stubborn when challenged). The point might be to leave room for that change....
I decided not to want children at 23, still don't have children and at 62 I don't think my mind is going to be changed anymore. My best friend decided at similar age not to want children. She's 55 and doesn't look like she's about to change her mind either...The problem with anecdotal argument eh😉
@@reddragonready I wasn't talking about menopausal lesbians. Or any other outliers that have physical or mental barriers. Never said this was an argument sweaty. It was a simple statement. Tick tok goes the ⏰️.
Gen X solidarity 🤘🍻
Claudine Gay is just fine. She's still getting over $400,000 a year or something like that. She's fine. Not a victim of anything.
I would love to debate you, Peter. I was raised by a leftist University professor who got his undergrad degrees from Berkeley. I know all the arguments.
Wow, what a guest!
Peter, we share the dream of leaving people to experience the consequences of their choices (@1:19:05) . Of course we know it's not feasible on a large scale, but that's what dreams are for ;). And the reality you discuss, is what happened in the brutal natural world, but it also fueled positive evolutionary change. Perhaps we've overcorrected in taking the edge off of poor individual choices - so instead, we suffer collectively. Doesn't sound fair to me. Your work is appreciated, BTW.
This felt more like a date than a podcast
Somehow I feel that those who say they would make bad parents wouldn’t actually be bad parents. I think that bad parents would not even know they would be bad parents. And Bad is a a subjective.
Okay, I'm on board with all of this, but she hates the term 'heterodox' and feels that "allergic to bullshit' is a serviceable substitute? Come on now.
So, she couldn't tell a canadian man from a woman? 12:35
I'm really sorry; to see how wrong she is.😎
Every person mentioned is Peter's very good friend, who he texted or called yesterday. What does that have to do with anything?
He’s signalling his caste status.
Love Meghan, subscribe to her podcasts and read her book of essays from the women who were childless by choice. I've never wanted kids, am also childless by choice, have multiple reasons, have never regretted it and have always supported anyone else's desire to have or not have kids themselves.
Would love to hear her have nuanced conversations with Megyn Kelly and Meghan Murphy (I'd call it 'Three Wise Megs').
MADNESS
I worked at a job that was mostly men. And then at a different job that was mostly women. Totally different vibe.
I have a group of friends that I'm close to from church. Most of them are married. Their husbands are great. I've never felt uncomfortable around them. We often get together as a group. And of course church and church events are all a mix of men and women.
But we also have a women's group that gets together. And the men have a men's group that gets together. Again, it's a totally different vibe when it's just the women. I'm sure the men feel the same about getting together with just the men. Otherwise they wouldn't do it.
I think there is value in women or girls having their own time and space, and men and boys having theirs. Just as there is value in the time we all have together.
In certain types of spaces or circumstances it's also a safety issue. But I think just in general, we spend most of our time mixed and that's as it should be. And I think a lot of women value our women's time together and a lot of men value their time with other men.
That should be respected by those that don't care one wat or the other. There are plenty of mixed sex spaces and events. It's most of society. They don't need to violate or abolish single sex spaces and gatherings just because they don't value it.
Church 🤮
This is a big problem among people who pretend they have friends. When your desire for friends exceeds your desire to speak your mind, you are. not a mature adult. Grow up children.
Re Snickers, food addiction is a real problem
I often think about seeing big food conglomerates as legal addictive drug dealers. As far as I am concerned, some foods can be considered hard drugs.
A women’s community is a great idea. And just FYI an all men’s group is a good idea too.
The Freemasons and Priesthood and Rabbis,Imams...
Well, she kind of did that thing I'm sick of, "Oh, I looked around, and podcasts were all men and no women, so we needed a space for women." It's like, one, I doubt many (maybe some) of the podcasts were anti-women. They just have male followers and a few women. Two, there's no big barrier to entry. Men are doing it. She can just do it, too. It's not like Jackie Robinson type stuff here.
@@roryteal5940 I was thinking more along the lines of a footie team, (soccer) or gym bros…or even a games club…but your suggestions work. There are sometimes I don’t want women around. And I can respect if there’s sometimes they wanna be in their own club together
@@brek5 true. I don’t know the breakdowns for Podcasts but I’ve heard that UA-cam is a very male demographic. I don’t have a problem with people forming around groups. Just as long as they’re not telling you what I get to do.
I agree that so much of my thinking is occupied by theses dumb ideas. I find it's healthy to shut it off for awhile. Take a break and engage in more serious intellectual pursuits of science or music.
1:20:00 that moment Peter finds his inner Dr. Evil
1:09:49
Lol yeah I want to talk about these subjects in family settings but my family has polarized. We've learned to remain silent. I find ordinary topics uninteresting. I notice when conversation gets slightly more political or culture war oriented people take a deep breath, remain silent, look uncomfortable, and change the subject to something uninteresting.
I’m shipping these two so hard. Sorry to objectify you both. I don’t even know Peter’s status 😂 It’s just ALL I COULD THINK ABOUT after the kids/relationships talk. “Yeah you two should cuddle up and watch a movie” - “Aw you two should turn your phones off and have real talks” - lol. Clearly a volcano of hormones inside this corporate job, childless single cat lady, turning 35 and wasn’t told about her fertility 😝 Haha. Nice chat you two!
You work for 40yrs to have $1M in your retirement, meanwhile some people are putting just $10K in a bitcoin from just a few months ago and now they are multimillionaire..
I'm favoured, $70k every week! I can now give back to the locals in my community and also support God's work and the church. God bless America.
Please how do I go about it, am still a newbie on investment trading and how can I make profit?
It's Elizabeth Ann Larson doing she's changed my life. A BROKER-like her is what you need.
Started the year joyfully after partaking in cryptos December last year, never knew it was this lucrative. I'm still overwhelmed because this exceeded my expectations, I lack the skill but I earn while I learn
Investing in stocks is a good idea, a good trading system would put you through many days of success.
I ruin dinner parties. I'm just a regular person, who's obsessed with defying leftist ideology, even though I held those beliefs more than half my life. I'm still just as obnoxious about these views as I was when I thought I knew it all. I didn't, so maybe I'm wrong now, too. No, that's not it. I'm right this time. Sorry. It's 4:30 am & they ARE stoo-pid.. Oh, btw, having faith in God isn't the disaster you're implying here. I wasn't always a believer. Sometimes, people have experiences they can't explain, like I did. It's one of the reasons I defy leftist ideology. Things aren't always what they seem. Thanks so much & good night.
Religion and faith are garbage. Dump it.
I watched a lot of female podcasts ..most spoke out against transgender movement. There are like 2 left. Wonder why that is.
I recall a few years ago thinking the most vulnerable would be impacted the most by this. As usual.
And when an 'allergy to BS' is heterdox...oh man, well then I guess we know where we are.
12:28
canadien men looking at each other in the room silently...
Did your former associates change, or was this just the first time you witnessed their character being tested? -This is not a glib, rhetorical question.
I like this lady, but why is there such a trend with women wanting to talk about things and not solve them?
I get there is a time to talk, but there's also a time to solve. But women just refuse to do this for some reason
No - that's what they say we want and do. Also, there is a cultural component as in different countries.
Feels like interrogation, or maybe job interview. Or maybe it is cold in there?
Earth, you don't have to be delusional to live here, but you do if you want it to make sense.
Peter, please research your guests before these chats...You knew so little about Meghan and you're an academic after all...Come on buddy🤪
Which data sources can you trust? There are so many that are ideologically compromised.
Women just want to tone police men.
This woman is a master of hollow appeasement. She said nothing.
This is common among writers: they know how to speak without any meaning.
Why should free thinking be segragated based on sex? Don't get me wrong, I support any group to have exclusive spaces based on sex, race, religion, whatever, but why?
Because women are more vulnerable to physical abuse and character assassination. Because men are generally lower in trait Agreeableness than women and can resist the pressure to confirm more easily than women can. Because women's relationships and methods of resolving issues are less outcome orientated - allyship is very important to women because them the is more safety in numbers.
I guess some women just don't feel like hanging around men constantly?
I just like that you and I say free association and voluntary group formation over all.
Ok cutting jerks you have met out maybe. Having said that,I don’t think encouraging estrangement is a good idea. Sometimes relationships take work.
I kicked myself out of a bookclub that I started.
Algae eaters?
Hard to watch as the man keeps interrupting, asking why it's a woman's space. Talk about self evident. Too annoying, can't watch, can't listen.
I would never tell a male friend anything personal about my husband.
Great conversation. The new digs look great too.
I can't agree with your woke utopia in which someone's children and grandchildren are also expected to stay there due to their beliefs that seem bordering on a new holocaust. I can't imagine being trapped in a city for my whole life and my children's whole life due to my parents and grandparents' ideologies.
Washington state senate bill 5599... Mandatory gender affirmation.
Two amazing people. Thank you!
Thanks for this, Professor.
My pleasure!
My book club is only for logical thinkers only, sorry women.
That is just sexist bs. You have some growing up to do.
Determinism here pushes infinite sums of complexity there. Everything physicalism classism made us eqaully broke with divisions in word and context . Dualistic whataboutism vs nilhisms. Everything has taught or caught the way to use dualistic evolutionary umbrella to capture the local systems to evolve how they see fit. Both party's wanted plausible deniabilty embedded as both censored 3 lines of measure = truest True known standard eqaulity controls .
Can anyone even triangulate how they know they have free will inertia in their frame of reference?
You did one philosophy paper at university didn't you?
@@user-tg9qq8eb3h im just old lived through it all and knew my 1890s born great grandmother who knew hers, and so on .
@user-tg9qq8eb3h it's the American founders choice of scale. To maximize benefits of atoms we all work with we must interpret them radically differently ( customers always right) but we must hold strong identifiers of moral law ,individual responsibility.
The theology is metamorphosis In reverse textualism methodology, objectivism = that everything physicalism is subject to change without further notice on par with idealism. Material sciences of the future shining capital on the hill = 3 lines of measure = eqaulibrium by for thru = saved bill of rights.
Where they draw from runs through my veins
Esoterica America. Puritan pilgrim king James English
X for Prayer logic whataboutism
Y thru Cursed rationalism reductionism
Z by Blessed common sense objectivism
= inherits the earth 🌎 stars above 🌟
To become kings of our own castles master of our own domain to sense the universe in all its glory 😤
Xyz manmade time hierarchy knowledge of good evil equations dualistic brain primordial self soul agency triangulated thermodynamical systems.
The tools for triangulation of free will inertia in our frame of reference etc etc
@@user-tg9qq8eb3h dacarte Shakespeare even issac newton all copping some of family ancestors more than we draw from them. Lol
If we cant have a literal Christian nationalism, can we have a metaphorical Christian nationalism? Or a mix of the two that can still align together on moral conclusions, even if they disagree on fact claims?
No. Get lost
@@theunknownatheist3815 Is there anything about the moral conclusions of Christianity about sacrifice, atonement, repentance, and redemption that you disagree with?
The claim that the left won't interview is false. I'm far more to the left on many issues. I'll interview. You are too religious or close minded to talk about many things.
Not sure about that. They will not have any dissent whatsoever…
You and your comrades shutdown any and all dialogue
I found you. On the bird app. You’re a conservative. You have no left leanings. We need actual leftists. You’re not one.
It's not a false claim.
Maybe the claim that the left are thick might be more appropriate.
You are willing to interview... whoever you are... therefore the general claim is false.
You should not be interviewed, but only because you are a moron.
I often say I am leftist enough to oppose any drug war, and conservative enough to want "Cant feed em don't breed em" to be the law.
@@Nall412 I'm the far left of the far right. I strongly support abortion and Palestine. Peter never interviews us. Zionists and pro choice, but no pro abortion